Ep. 244 | Pulsar Thermion 2 XQ50 Pro/LRF Pro **384 REVIEW**

[@dustinshaw2419]

Pulsar is killing you guys not keeping you stocked up! You guys are definitely my first choice to purchase from but I'll admit that I'm impatient. Had to pull the trigger elsewhere, but still bought what I could from y'all! (ADM mount and battery for my new XQ50 pro) at least I'm still going to be advertising your products. Great show guys thanks. Can't wait to get mine on Friday.

[@ngaoutdoors4157]

As of 2023 these scopes are $3999 😎Very informative videos as always 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍

[@trevorfowler3183]

When will y’all have them back in stock? Would like to purchase from your website but never see them in stock.

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

We just got the Thermion 2 XQ50 Pro’s in stock today. They won’t last long! outdoorlegacygear.com/products/pulsar-thermion-2-xq50-pro-3-12x-thermal-rifle-scope?variant=40120636342346

[@Scottyman99]

Purely based on image quality, the Bolt TL35 or Pulsar Thermion 2 XQ50 Pro?

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

Call us, we’re happy to help and Hans, Ashley or Jason can answer that question for you. We’d love to have your business. 877-350-1818

[@kendyluu]

I’m torn between the Talion XQ35 PRO and the Thermion 2 XQ35/XQ50 PRO. Since they’re have the same specs on Pulsar website but I bet there’re slightly differences between the Talion and Thermion line. Since the Talion is 2499.99, the XQ35 is 2999.99, and the bigger brother XQ50 is 3499.99. To me, $500 to $1000 is not a big problem as buy once cry once always is true. I like the Talion external battery system, (two included), longer run time than the Thermion (7x2=14>8), compactness and lower price. But I do like the traditional look, proven record, durability, mounting option versatility of the Thermion line. But the image quality and FOV are my top priority. So, do you think the extra cash is worth it with the Thermion 2 or just buy the economical Talion model and be done with it? Again, extra money for the better one isn’t an issue with me. I do trust you guys opinion and recommendation. Big fan of the show.

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

Give us a call, we’ll be glad to help and would love to have your business! 877-350-1818

[@41ksmitty]

if you had to pick between this scope and the trail 2 LRF XP50 which one would you pick ?

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

We think it would be totally dependent on your specific hunting situation needs. The XP50 is a 2x and the XQ50 is a 3x. The Trail 2 is a 4 year old discontinued model that’s now 3 generations behind the Thermion 2 XP50 Pro LRF so it would be nearly impossible for us to pick the Trail 2. It was a great scope and still gets the job done but Pulsar has made a lot if improvements since then.

[@justinsigmon1878]

I have the XG50. Wonder when they will come out with the pulsar for coyote hunting that will be better. I know people say the xp50 lrf pro is better but I love a higher base power.

[@number40Fan]

The Day/Thermal scope coming out will be the one to wait for.

[@justinsigmon1878]

@number40Fan looking for a good helmet mount thermal too.

[@andyprice4696]

Jason - Hans, are you guys going to SHOT show in a few days? Will there be any shot special episodes showing off the new scopes that are released?

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

Hey Andy! This coming Thursday 1/12 we will do our annual “Pre-SHOT Show” episode. Then on the first day of SHOT 1/17 we will publish interviews with the manufacturers. These will drop all at once and there will be 4 or 5. (Trying to get the last interview done tomorrow) Then on Thursday 1/19 we plan to release an episode recoded live from Vegas. Then on Thursday 1/26 we plan to have a SHOT recap episode from back here in Texas. So the next few weeks will be SHOT Show overload!😎😎

[@andyprice4696]

@@TheLateNightVisionShow sweet! Looking forward to it. I got a couple friends in the market after seeing my scope I bought recently. Sending them over to outdoor legacy!

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

Thank you!!

[@Gareth96v1]

Looking at getting one of these units.. with the price drop on the XG50 (640 sensor) though I'm kinda torn. Do you think the XQ50 Pro is the way to go with the

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

At this point we would not buy the original XG50. Unfortunately it’s outdated and the newer optics have far surpassed it and that’s why it was discontinued. The old XG50 struggles greatly in humidity and bad conditions and the new XQ models FAR surpass it in those bad conditions. Even though they are only 384 resolution we’d take a XQ over the discontinued XG50. And don’t be confused with the new Thermion 2 XG50 LRF that’s coming soon. That unit has a totally different brand sensor than the old XG

[@Gareth96v1]

@@TheLateNightVisionShow thanks! I had a feeling that was the case. I'm going to see what goes on at SHOT Show and then pull up my britches and call you ;)

[@lddtyrone]

What is the difference between xp and xq?

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

XP = 640x480 17m and XQ = 384x288 17m Thanks for watching and feel free to give us a call and we’ll be happy to answer any questions and offer our advice on which optic is best for you. We’d love to have your business! 877-350-1818

[@dericktharp5796]

In my experience it seemed that these scopes don’t have the accuracy compared to a traditional scope. I’m far from an expert. Hoping you can speak to this.

[@TheLateNightVisionShow]

There is some confusion on this. A thermal scope has a set of crosshairs that are digitally set. Once in place they don’t move and if the scope is mounted correctly and there are no physical defects in the scope to cause movement (extremely rare) then those crosshairs will have the exact same accuracy as if you were using the crosshairs on the most expensive day optic set on the same rifle. However…..the issue is often that when shooting a day optic your bullseye is usually the size of a dime or a nickel and you can see it perfectly. Usually when target shooting a thermal you’re using a bullseye that’s hot, cold or reflective and it usually ranges from 1”x1” to something like a hand-warmer that might be 2”x3.5”. Shooting at a bullseye the size of a dime vs the size of a tennis ball is going to give very different results on paper. That doesn’t even take into account that if using a hot or cold bullseye the heat or cold temperature of your bullseye can be transferred to the rest of your target causing a “bloom” affect and now you’re bullseye could be even larger. There are methods to avoid some of these issues but this is an explanation of why it’s often believed thermal optics aren’t as accurate. So in summary, barring any defects or human error, a thermal scope is 100% as accurate as a daytime scope….the crosshairs aren’t moving inside the scope on either one so there can’t be any accuracy difference. But due to zeroing/shooting methods being different and the human difficulty, people often don’t get the extremely tight groups they might expect to see from their daytime optic. But….we’re still talking about tiny differences that would have 100% no negative effect on killing an animal the size of a rabbit or larger at 200+ yards. I hope that helps a little! Thanks for watching!