Ep. 389 | Career First, Job Second: Breaking into the C-Suite - Grace Puma & Christiana Smith Shi

What's the best path to carve out a successful career for yourself, especially if you're a woman who has to navigate unique biases and barriers like the gender pay gap and the motherhood penalty? Let's ask my next guests Grace Puma, former PepsiCo COO and Christiana Smith Shi, former Nike President of Consumer Direct. Not only have both women built decades-long careers from scratch reaching the coveted C-Suite, but they've also joined forces to share all the wisdom they've learned along the way in their new book Career Forward: Strategies from Women Who've Made It.
The facts are that as women, it's still harder to reach certain career heights since we don't yet live in a perfectly equitable world. But that shouldn't stop us from trying, especially since it also means making it easier for future generations to get to the top. There are so many amazing pieces of career (and life) advice in this episode, but I think my favourite ones are thinking of your career as a growth stock and focusing on your career, not your job.
I'll also be giving away a copy of their book, so make sure to visit jessicamoorhouse.com/contest to enter to win.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:48 Grace Puma and Christiana Smith Shi Join the More Money Podcast
04:08 Getting to Know Grace Puma
06:26 Getting to Know Christiana Smith Shy
08:51 The Impact of Role Models
10:09 Motivation for Writing the Book
11:11 Empowerment and Practicality in Career Growth
13:24 Staying Hungry and Avoiding Complacency
15:08 Thinking of Your Career as a Growth Stock
19:56 Building Professional Equity
23:28 Balancing Personal Life and Career
25:52 Overcoming Surprises and Hurdles in Career
27:32 The Motherhood Penalty
30:49 Negotiating and Knowing Your Worth
40:59 Finding a Mentor and Sponsor
44:39 The Importance of Financial Stability
47:06 Conclusion and Where to Find the Book
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TAKEAWAYS
• Having role models and seeing women in successful careers can inspire younger generations and change the trajectory of future generations.
• Staying hungry and avoiding complacency is crucial for career growth. Continuously learning, growing, and seeking new opportunities is key.
• Building professional equity is essential for career advancement. It involves strategic thinking, cultivating skills, and making the right decisions to contribute value to companies.
• Balancing personal life and career is possible with intentional decision-making and understanding what is important to you and your family.
• Knowing your worth and negotiating for fair compensation is important. Researching salary ranges, documenting your contributions, and having a business conversation can help in negotiating for better pay.
• Finding mentors and sponsors who can provide guidance and support is valuable for career growth. It's important to be clear about what you need and to cultivate relationships with individuals who have the skills and knowledge you seek.
• Having financial stability and a buffer of savings provides options and flexibility in career decisions and negotiations.
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RESOURCES
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📌 Enter to win a copy of their book jessicamoorhouse.com/contest
📌 Show notes & transcript jessicamoorhouse.com/389
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[@glen1742]

I remember reading a book by James Rohn and he mentioned that income is proportional to personal development outside of work so work on yourself more than you do your job. That has always stuck with me and changed the lens of how I view work. Feels similar to what Christiana mentioned about how your job is not your career. Rohn mentioned that consistently trying to persuade your boss for a raise works up to a point because a boss does not want to give you money; you are not paid per hour but the value you bring within that hour so to increase leverage you must work on yourself outside of work. In life opportunities arise but sometimes I find I have not worked on myself enough to capitalize on those opportunities when they arise.

[@jessicamoorhouse]

I'll have to check out that book! But yes, I've found that working on yourself outside of your career and like they said, treating your career like a growth stock, is essential if you want to grow in your career and set yourself apart.