EP 42: The Donner Circle Looper

Hello there.
This week I'm looking at the Donner Circle Looper. The Circle Looper is a Looper with 40 memory slots and a built in drum machine with 100 different beats.
**CORRECTION***
You're Saved Loops WILL Remember the beat you used, if you have the Green Merger Control Button Pushed when you start the play back.
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[@johnnycitizen161]

Good to hear a looper review with distortion to sound check correctly

[@joellamahead]

Just the tutorial was looking for while waiting for my circle looper to arrive

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Good to hear

[@jaminjim44]

Just bought mine and got it today, I couldn’t figure out how to get a loop to save my butt! Watched a video and man how I couldn’t figure that out is beyond me! 😂 once I did WOW! Now I got to figure out how to add the drums I think i just push the button in the middle think you just explained I’ll have to rewind lol great video! Thanks!

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Oh man, I’m so happy I could help. Your going to have a ton of fun with it

[@dankehrig3419]

I bought mine a week ago and have written 5 new songs with it! The pedal is pretty awesome for the the price. Super easy to use

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Yeah, I love it

[@denomdemon]

Thanks for being the only person to demo the stereo jacks.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

You are welcome

[@markplimsoll]

YES!!! Circle Looper's beats per minute sync "close enough" so we can easily hit the looper button and the loop "quantizes" or stops on the bar, or close enough it does NOT hiccup and get further off with each loop cycle (on some Beat Buddy beats ONLY, because Beat Buddy beats get recorded with human drummers, so they too are not as accurate as digital. Who cares? Record the Beat Buddy into the loop! TAKE NOTES OF CIRCLE LOOPER DRUM AND TEMPO for your loops, in case you need to recreate, or move slots. Seems circle looper's software handles the metadat about its beats and tempo, so write things down to edit .WAV loops in Audacity for loudess, EQ, etc. and import new WAV files into the looper. Circle Looper uses 24 bit, and Boss RC-3 uses 16 bit, so pay attention when you edit/export/save or create files exfernally, in Audacity, for example. I love my Circle Looper! I did cover the looper button with a cap to avoid mistakenly hitting it during a step to Stop, which avoids going into Record mode and polluting your backup loop. You cannot clear, or delete, imported loops except through the computer software.

[@lorenvguitar614]

You have a great sense of humor, very dry and clever. Thanks for the video, your apologies to Jazzers and the others were well placed. You just need some practice my friend, you will get this. (I mean playing the guitar) Thanks for a fun video.

[@camgreer]

Thanks for clearing that up about the merge button. I have not read the instructions, so you really came through for me. BTW, what are those guitars you're playing? Did you build those magnificent contraptions yourself?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Thank you! I do. I’m getting better at it, so they are starting to live up to their names😀. Thanks for watching.

[@1bluesmanj]

Great video content. Did you ever make the follow up video, to this, you mentioned?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Thank you. No, I don’t believe I did

[@Darmstadtiensis]

Software for Windows doesnt work. Any solution?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@Darmstadtiensis sorry, I wish I did.

[@thechamp9696]

Great demo! Just curious if you have tried exporting loops. Does it export the files in true stereo? How do you like the software?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

I have never had good luck with Any looper software. They have a setup you can download. My computer and device aren’t getting along, but it might be my computer, so I chose not to address it in the video on the assumption someone in the KZbin world would have a more definitive answer.

[@NoStringsAttached88]

I just got one today, i wish it had a way to arm the looper so it started when it got the sound instead of having to start and stop it manually

[@humblegeorge]

I thought you did GREAT !!!!! super cool.I am still fighting my circle looper like a rabid dog ! Frigg'in thing goes ape shit,,,,,,but now I think I understand why.Thank you very much great video.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

I really appreciate that. Thank you. It’s a pretty awesome looper.

[@DARRBEV]

Perfect review, tells me everything I need to know with none of the usual bullshit. Plus a nice touch of humour, but not too much lol.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Thank you.

[@maxandkellyestesrealestate]

Thanks

[@brettshegogue]

So if you only use a 100ma power does it turn into snake venom? Nice review! I'm liking what I'm seeing from this at 1/2 the price of other comparable pedals

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

It actually does! Thank you, I appreciate it.

[@pietervandercammen9006]

Thanks for the video, I'm really considering buying this one! But I have one question: if you connect an external footswitch, do you now what use the footswitch will get? Can you scroll through your saved loops or drumbeats with it? Thanks!

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

I don’t have the foot switch, but the directions say you use it to switch between looper and rhythm or up and down between tracks or beats. I hope that helped

[@pietervandercammen9006]

@@LearningCurveGuitar Thanks man! Exact the information I needed!

[@blueeyedsoulman]

What happens if you switch memories while it's playing? What happens to the drums as well?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

It will switch to what ever is in the memory slot. If you have drums in the memory slot I believe it will go with those drums.

[@markplimsoll]

Loopers' MAIN PROBLEM = staying synced to a beat. This quantizes to the measure of its internal drummer, BUT WILL IT STAY "SYNCED" to an external drum (BeatBuddy) set to the same bpm? This would fix the obvious problem of mixing drums and guitar together (or add a bass with drum!)

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Does any loop stay in synch with an external source? It’s the same reason using 2 loopers doesn’t work, your timing is always going to be off a hair and that gap gets bigger with each loop.

[@markplimsoll]

@@LearningCurveGuitar With a precice beats per minute, the loop quantizing TO THE BAR (example 4/4) then looper and drums should seem to sync even if your foot press is off a little. Depends on industry standards regarding bpm (are there standards of precision?)

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@markplimsoll I would like to see that.

[@markplimsoll]

@@LearningCurveGuitar They can "quantize" to the bar. A zoom g3x guitar multieffect did that but awful drum sounds!

[@RetroPlus]

Is this the guitar version of Anthony Fantano?

[@hardline2a]

I just ordered one. What is the reason to not run it at 100ma? Glad I saw this before I got it

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

It doesn’t function properly at 100ma

[@hardline2a]

@@LearningCurveGuitar I'm assuming as long as a power supply can convert at least 300, that the pedal will draw all the power it needs to work properly. Forgive my ignorance on this, I admit I don't know a lot about this topic. Glad I saw your video before I got my pedal so I can make sure I get a proper power supply for it and not have to wonder why something isn't working lol

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@hardline2a we are in the same boat😀 I used it at 100ma and it didn’t work right, I used it at 300ma and it did. That’s as deep as I can go on the topic. It’s a fun looper, enjoy and I’m happy I could help.

[@hardline2a]

@@LearningCurveGuitar just thought I'd let you know I've been using my Circle Looper every day with no problems as I made sure to let it have the 300ma power. Ive seriously never had this much fun with guitar.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@hardline2a it is awesome and the beats are killer. Cheers

[@MrMetalclay]

Can you change the beat after you make a loop? Say you start with a metronome because it's simple and then find a beat later on that works good.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

You can. I haven’t played with that much. My. Guess is, if it say 120 bpm 4/4 and you swap it for 120 bpm 4/4 you’ll be fine, but it won’t alter your loop.

[@MrMetalclay]

@@LearningCurveGuitar try it with a 3/4 and see what happens 🙂

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@MrMetalclay I’ll post the vid here in the comments when I get a chance.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Hey MrMetalClay. You can change the drum track. How good it sounds, depends on the track you pick. Different tracks accent different things and so some times it will fit great and sometimes not so much. It will not change time signature. The loop is the loop you record. I will illustrate this in Tuesdays video. Hope all is well.

[@MrMetalclay]

@@LearningCurveGuitar cool! I had a hunch it would. I ended up getting the Ammoon Pock Rock because there seems to be no Circle Looper restock for a while. It also can change the beat, it's pretty funny changing to a different time signature beat.

[@tonyhill2318]

I'm confused...you said it doesn't record the drums as part of the loop, but another review said it definitely does. ??

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

It doesn’t ‘record’ the drums, the drums are pre programmed. You can save the drum settings, however

[@satevo462]

How does it "get goofy" on 100 ma?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

It doesn’t function properly. The drum machine doesn’t work right. It’s been a while, I don’t remember all the specifics, but I don’t remember it being functional

[@mchristofaro]

If I record a clean tone to loop then change the amp to a distorted tone (or any other effect or tone), the loop then goes from clean tone to distorted max. I want to keep the loop clean. Is there a way I can do this? Basically, I want to have the clean loop playing while I jam over it with a distorted tone.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Yes, but you need to put the pedal in the effects loop. If your amp doesn’t have an fx loop, you might want to try changing your tone using pedals in front of the looper.

[@MrMetalclay]

Yes they're sold out at the moment, and I don't want to buy the next best, because they cost more and have less features.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Just watched your vid. Sounds great. I was thinking of one of those amoon kidneys. Have fun man.

[@MrMetalclay]

@@LearningCurveGuitar The Ammoon Kidney seems interesting. It's pretty much everything at a really low price. I'll probably get one and they don't seem to have any shortage.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@MrMetalclay Donner makes a thing thing that looks like a joystick. Basically the same thing. The clean fender and EVH channels are pretty solid

[@TheRealitymechanic]

I've had one for a little bit but I get a constant static/feedback when its plugged in and I have tried a dan electro power supply and a snark power supply.. and 3 diferent amps. Would you have advice how I could remedy this?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Are you using the right VOltage? You're power supply should have different out puts. it's 9 V, but 300 MiliAmp. When I didn't have it at 300 mA, It ran weird. I hope that helps.

[@TheRealitymechanic]

@@LearningCurveGuitar maybe it is the mili amp.. would you recommend a certain power supply?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@TheRealitymechanic I can’t. I use this Guitar Pedal Power Supply 10 Isolated DC Output for 9V/12V/18V Guitar Bass Effects Pedals with Built-in USB Charging Port for Phone iPhone Pad iPad www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8NZKS6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_Qu80FbYP0RW5Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 And its been great. I also have a rechargeable joyo, but since I never leave the house, it doesn’t get a lot of jam time.

[@tonymediati8274]

Can I use a 500ma adapter?

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

The manual say 300 ma. I don’t work for Donner and I’m not an electrician, but I believe you’ll be ok. You might want to do some googling to make sure

[@animalistic670]

Got mine Oct 12 and the right footswitch died Dec 3.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Send it back

[@animalistic670]

@@LearningCurveGuitar it's 22 days past the warranty so the company itself won't deal with me. Trying to jump through some hoops as we speak

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

@@animalistic670 I’m sorry, that sucks.

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

I should also say, I’ve used my almost every day since I got it and so far it has held up well.

[@opiumdennis7249]

You lost me at about 4:25

[@LearningCurveGuitar]

Huh

[@pierremarillier1375]

bla bla bla blabla…..l.lll