Ep 43 | Do Amish Have Gay People?? Do they murder? Let’s talk about it 

[@ald8612]

I dont care what anyone says, ...there are gay people EVERYWHERE, in every country, in every religion, in every Church, in every race, in every club, in every group, in every lifestyle, in every government. They are everywhere!

[@richardsanty9063]

We Sure Are!

[@dg-sl5jb]

Of course there are sin is present in ALL OF HUMANITY. "For by one mankind sin entered the world AND DEATH BY SIN. FOR THIS REASON ALL HAVE SINNED." Romans 5:12

[@daodejing81]

We are

[@NC-vz6ui]

Gay people are not sin. Sin is missing the mark and this can happen to both gay and straight people.

[@puddnjones9816]

@@dg-sl5jb Sin is not real. Just made up fairy tale dogma.

[@MiamiWebDesign]

I can’t help it but to smile when looking at the gentleman speaking here because I can’t stop visualizing Woody Harrelson in the movie Kingpin LOL

[@garrychildress1373]

I have 4 Amish at the prison I work at. One is in for complicity in the murder of his wife. Three are in for sex crimes against children. One of those three has 7 victims. That one is doing life.

[@sarah2.017]

I used to live in Missouri, and most of the puppy and kitten mills that were busted in that region were run by the Amish. They also have been caught doing meth manufacture in other areas. They're really no different from "us."

[@SH-hn2wp]

Just found your channel and i want to thank you for talking about topics that alot of us non amish people have wondered what does go on within your community, especially the more sensitive subjects to you, but not necessarily to the rest of the world

[@ItsCoreyLynxxYall]

The first question is easy to answer considering gay people exist among every stripe color and creed.

[@BrianAddington-ic4jz]

@@ItsCoreyLynxxYall yeah, I didn’t really get adspurs comment either.

[@jtur4897]

It could have been worded differently, but we know what he meant. How is it treated when found out.

[@timothyleethomas4648]

Thank you both so much for sharing. I have always loved the Amish culture and the people I have have ever met who are Amish as well as many of the stores, shops, sandwich shops, baked goods, furniture and so much more. The Amish have always fascinated me because of the Godlike simplicity of Life live. Within these communities. You have no idea how nice it is to watch your conversations and learn from you because on the outside, we are curious but questions we would never intrude to ask. You both are so open and honest about the very things we are curious about. I’m sure I will have questions for you but I have subscribed and sure I will learn and then have more questions. But I am grateful for you both opening up the platform to help me appreciate your communities even more. Merry Christmas to you.

[@BarbieGuy-gb9zw]

Also I see her on my Facebook all the time showing me all these delicious Amish food things - I wanna try those Amish onion rings!

[@hannahsings19]

I'm obsessed with her videos. I love her voice!

[@Teresa-ro3ex]

I read the book "Little boy blue" several years ago simply because the concept of something so horrific happening in an Amish community was hard for me to grasp. The child was also at one time in an "English " home in a foster care sort of arrangement. I often wonder why his dad didn't leave him there. He was indeed a monster.

[@maryanncall3515]

What was the book called? When I google little boy blue a book called abandon prayers comes up.

[@Teresa-ro3ex]

@maryanncall3515 I stand corrected. It is indeed Abandoned Prayers. Very eye opening. I guess it made me step back and really see that Amish are human and are not that different than other people. I warn you though. The book is so sad.

[@Pisti846]

I always assumed Amash homosexuals would either be the bachelors and spinsters who stayed home and took care of mom and dad when they got old, or they left the community.

[@BLARG09]

Really, I just assumed they faked it like whole lot of other people.

[@williamboo9017]

Id have thought so too

[@JuliaMcLean6559]

Are there a lot of affairs that go on between the different married couples do they have each other‘s babies and never tell?

[@egroegartfart]

Glad i found your channel. Not sure where you guys are but im in ohio around new philadelphia which is close to the largest amosh community in Ohio. I have many friends who are amish and some that have left the Amish. I go to auctions a lot and am in the towns where they are alot. One called sugarcreek, and millersburg and Berlin in holmes county Ohio. I love the Amish people. I have worked with them a lot. One of my good friends who jumped the fence has a tree trimming and logging business. Just an amazing person. He ended up fixing me up with his sister the summer she left the amish. She literally had just left. Unfortunately their parents were so strict that when she left she just went absolutely wild. Partying every night and just being wild. So it didnt last too long. But i understood why she was doing it. Because she had heen so sheltered her entire life. Great videos. Glad to have found you.

[@BeckFamilyShenanigans]

I, personally, would love to hear more! I'm not sure if I want details, but I've never heard any of these stories. Really love what you all are doing❤❤❤

[@ronaldclark5678]

I'm so glad you are pod casting. Amish are very private people it's a family thing which is good. People out here today family is no longer close as they use to. ❤❤

[@shavinmccrotch9435]

Homosexuality and murder is a rather unfortunate pairing. 😒

[@BrianAddington-ic4jz]

That’s what I thought too

[@williamboo9017]

Amen. Thanks

[@adspur]

Some people have done both unfortunately

[@krzysztofromaniewski671]

YOU are the real misfortune in this world

[@corkjv]

Romans ch 1, reprobate

[@Turkeyinthehay]

"Got caught in the act of being gay" = "Got intruded upon in a moment that was nobody else's business or concern". I will never shame anyone's beliefs, but I personally will never and have never been a member of a faith community that decides my mind for me. There's a reason there are so many "ex" {insert a faith group here}.

[@Ee36854]

Every word 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@dannylamb2721]

How does one person get caught in the act of being gay

[@thruthematrixx]

Different societies, different morals, different cultures, different values, we may not agree with them sometimes but should respect their right to exist how they best see fit as long as it's not hurting anyone or violating the law. Edit: To be clear though I completely agree with your sentiment

[@Detritis]

It's important for people to remember that it's not your job to judge another person. You pray for them like you pray for any other person. Your job is to love thy neighbor. An interesting conversation still but curious why those two topics were paired.

[@user-Robert_The_Real_Deal]

Yeah almost like demonizing homosexual behavior indirectly.

[@williamboo9017]

@@user-Robert_The_Real_Deal good point. The Christian right usually does that.

[@sarah2.017]

It's because they're talking about the book "Little Boy Blue", which was about a murder that made national headlines back in the 1980s. He was unidentified for a long time, and eventually traced to an Amish man who had also killed his first wife, who was 8 months pregnant at the time (it was thought to be an accidental house fire) and there was evidence that he was trafficking the boy.

[@petemavus2948]

​@@user-Robert_The_Real_Deal Like it's a "gateway drug" or something. 🤣

[@nickjenkins1663]

Click bait🙂. AKA Viral video 😂😂. Content creators worship the clicks.. No matter the genre.

[@StevenBarkhurst-l4p]

I'm so glad to have found ur podcast.... thanx

[@MrKrisburns]

God bless you all! Great video

[@StarLilyNana]

I love that y’all came on my feed. My grandmother always said she was Pennsylvania Dutch. My Dad was raised Amish but left and went across country. I would love to get back to my family’s roots.

[@MsDreamcakes]

I think the book you are referring to is titled “Abandoned Prayers” …..I want to read it so I went in search of it but I can’t find a book titled “Little Boy Blue” but the one titled Abandoned Prayers talks about a murdered little boy they called little boy blue! Please correct me if I’m wrong! I just wanted people that might be interested to know what to look for!

[@simple_random_stuff]

I know a great deal about Amish. My sisters first husband was Amish . He (yanked over) which means left the Amish and now he’s gay. My best friend as a teenager was Amish. He was Amish the first few years I knew him and then he left. I had a girlfriend that was Amish but I met her after she was no longer Amish . We met in a group home. She was in foster care from being abused by her Amish family. I went to Amish parties every weekend when I was 15 to about 18. ALOT of good memories. I suppose all the people I partied with were in there rumspringa 😜. I’m 45 now but I still remember those days. And yes younger Amish do commit crimes a lot lol so much transpired in those years I could probably make my own podcast talking about it lol.

[@johnevitts1687]

I live in central KY lots of Amish in the surrounding counties... good folks...we all have things we aren't proud of that's way we have God to correct and hold us ultimately accountable... enjoy your videos very informative thank you both

[@christinebeard5371]

Please cover more on the Little Boy Blue story. What was the father's name???

[@wiseguysoutdoors2954]

Up near us, in NW Pennsylvania, there was Edward Gingrich who brutally murdered his wife near Meadville, Pa. He had a lot of mental issues. Just recently, near Spartansburg , Pa there was a murder in the Amish community

[@sarah2.017]

Wasn't that Spartansburg murder done by a man who thought his child, who had been taken by CPS, lived there?

[@rustybarrr]

My good friend, Isaac’s daughter was molested by Isaac‘s wife’s brother. Isaac‘s wife’s father is the bishop. And he sided with his son and not his granddaughter. The whole story is this happened years ago, and it only finally came out when she was trying to start dating and just couldn’t. So the Bishop said this happened long ago we need to forgive and forget. 😢

[@derekbraithwaite5077]

Can outsiders from various Christian faith communities such as Dutch Reformed or Mennonites become Amish? If so, how? Through marriage, or other rituals ? The issue of consanguinity must be a concern as these communities have existed in Pennsylvania, since the 1600s. The Mennonite communities in Southwestern Ontario Manitoba can readily be identified by family names such as Neufeld, , Dyck/Dick/Dueck, Klassen, Weibe, Peters . What I'd like to know is how do the Amish expand their gene pool to prevent health problems stemming from consanguinity in their relatively closed societty?

[@d5whilmer]

I was surprised to see your channel. I enjoy cooking and I've watched many of Lavanna's videos. Then I found this today. Watching this one of many I've seen today it is mentioned by Lavonna that she comes from a strong German decent. Is this where most Amish originated? Does the religion and lifestyle come from other parts of Europe? Is it associated at all with Quakers?

[@giovannideventuri4506]

There is no association with Quakers. The Amish are Anabaptist which were mainly from Switzerland. That country is split geographically and culturally into 3 sections; German, French and Italian. The Amish speak a German based language known as Pennsylvania Dutch. The Dutch part should really be Deutsch as it is much more German than Dutch.

[@d5whilmer]

@@giovannideventuri4506 Do the Amish use religious text such as a bible? If so, do they use a standard Christian bible or something else; thanks.

[@toadstooltarot]

I thought the Amish were not permitted to engage in technology like podcasting or videos.

[@KatTheTruth]

They aren’t Amish anymore lmao

[@feea2021]

OMG I just realized little house on the prairie! 😊

[@Classicvideogames45]

Have give Amish respect for their extreme hard work for what they do support themselves.I I want to give my thoughts and prayers for family Amish. In what they do lord, god give them strength and wisdom. They do know god is important their life

[@samg.r.4387]

I’m curious how the Amish community would treat a child who was suspected to be gay. What about an adult who never admitted to being gay but never had any desire to get married and have a family? Are aging spinsters and bachelors accepted as part of the community?

[@vidacsm]

Could you make an episode about the Amish education? From previous episodes I only found that you have 8 grade and thats it, but would be interested what exactly did you study? From other sources I found that everything is bible based, from earlier episodes I concluded, that you didn't really study even Amish history, which was a bit surprising. After leaving the Amish, did you and others picked up a book about biology, history, etc., to catch up a bit? Second question would be about being religious. It seems like that everyone who left the Amish, stayed relegious and keeps going to some church. Is it very unusual to become atheist/agnostic after leaving the Amish?

[@denisedavis9387]

I have read the book and the second one also. Really disturbing story.

[@Skeeks27]

Do the men wear wigs or something? Some podcasts I’m seeing the host with light hair with a modern style, then in other videos, I see that classic Amish look, but the hair is so much darker. Is that common?

[@BeckFamilyShenanigans]

I do have a few questions. What is the difference between Mennonite & Amish? Do you know any Mennonite?

[@gdave53925_]

So you discuss Gay people in the Amish community, and immediately have to try to villainize them as murderers. Gay people have been around since the beginning of the human race, homosexuality exists in that animal kingdom, there are definitely gay people in the Amish community, they aren't announcing it, because of what would happen to them if they did. Not believing there are, is just plain ignorance. And thinking they'd have to be murderers is just plain old homophobia.

[@houseofcreativity1]

It is so sad that they don’t address issues that everyday life is all about growing up. That could be why Amish chose to leave. Is it true that different Amish community have selected colors they wear? Why is that Amish wear grey black and blue?

[@jameswolf7811]

There could be more than one by name, did the Dan Gingrich you speak of move to northern New York years ago. If so he and his family are very good friends of mine. If you could reply I would greatly appreciate it, just curious. Thank you and have a great day.

[@Landshark2020]

Do all religions have fanatics?Let’s answer that question first.

[@AmishMediaGroups]

I can speak for the one I was involved in and that answer is yes

[@crazyleaf257]

The gossip and the constant judging of each other is so wrong and horrible. Like judging for not having dishes done

[@knotzed]

Bruh yall should put a picture of the person ur talking about on the thumbnail is thought the guy was the perpetrator! 😂

[@michealbarnett3065]

I been around amish and mennonite all my life I have stayed all night and been around them a lot. One major thing that bothers me is what happens to disabled babies. Im not going in to detail but its absolutely wrong in my eyes. Basically if you cant work you are not needed.

[@diy2surf]

Would love to know more about the story little boy blue!

[@lshancole1955]

If you don’t like their answers, don’t ask them the questions.

[@jeffheld3971]

I am truly interested in all aspects of Amish life.

[@AmishMediaGroups]

Thank you for your support

[@pspears2153]

Oh, I saw the Butterball thing. People are absolutely vile. I'm not sure if you two have studied Revelation much, but if you have, surely you see how close we must be getting to the end.

[@arfriedman4577]

Whats the Butterball thing? I'm trying to google it.

[@VoiCeSbeHinDtheWaLL]

Is The Amish Mafia A Real Thing?

[@garygray2287]

Please read the book and give your reaction to it. Thanks.

[@jovialbivouacker99]

What are those cameras you’re using?

[@AmishMediaGroups]

Mevo

[@jovialbivouacker99]

@ Thanks.🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@FlappyBelly]

Yes please do a whole video series on Little Boy Bloo

[@mymorelmaddness83]

Are you guys in MO? I'm around a large Amish community...love to meet you

[@vickilang8005]

It came out that it happened 20 years ago with the turkeys

[@tubruton]

Are you familiar with the community near Arthur Il.? I grew up nearby and wondered if they are considered old Amish.

[@edwinhageman9377]

There was a movie made Called " Little Boy Blue " yrs ago

[@Sp3crtum77]

People are human beings. We are more the same even though we are different.

[@Wouldntyouliketoknow1111]

If this guy isn’t Amish anymore, why does he have the worst Amish haircut? 😳 or is this a wig??

[@donitachapman4731]

That book was a great read

[@jrt1776]

I want to become Amish with such beliefs of virtue but gossip is never good ...I agree that we shouldn't be sitting around festering on sexuality ...some things should be private

[@-randychasechase2660]

Tell the truth they use another group to . Do the dirty work. Kind a mafia but for them . Everyone in Lancaster county knows it too

[@Goldenpark89]

Somehow I believe God wanted us to live free and learn to love , help and respect every living soul. Segregating in a close community , barely interact with anyone that doesn’t belong to that group and judge unfairly others is opposite of what God wishes for us

[@thruthematrixx]

Different cultures equals different values and morals. I'm sure they could point out a lot of things that non Amish do that is contrary to what God would want. No one person is perfect just as no one community is perfect.

[@vickibednar9220]

You guys must not sweep your chimney. They get a buildup of creosote. We used to use a product that we put on the fires that would help get rid of the buildup. I can't imagine how scared you were as kids during the fire.

[@RonaldDelby]

Paranormal happenings? In the Amish communities.

[@charmainegranstrom6581]

Is amish the same as Mennonite or Heddorite (i am truly sorry, i dont know the correct spelling) ?

[@sarah2.017]

Are you thinking Hutterite? There are overlaps but they are not the same.

[@BlueHeron654]

Hutterites live in colonies. Amish are old order. There are modern Mennonites who drive cars and live in cities.

[@douglasfrank9323]

The Amish are human just like everyone else. Yes, there are gay Amish, however, they can't be openly gay and remain within the community. I'm trying to remember if I've heard of any committing murder. I know there have been Amish men convicted of child sexual abuse. It was a big deal recently because the Amish Community typically dealt with it within the Community without notifying secular authorities. That caused some serious repercussions for the bishops.

[@TheHighlander78]

I think it would be better if you explained how you both feel about the situations that you are talking about. Not just telling us about other Amish. For me, I’m gay and I believe that God loves everyone equally and that we all basically will return to the side of God. Loving your neighbour as you love yourself is one of the highest commandment and love the Lord is above all, as he loves you ❤

[@corkjv]

Romans 1

[@johnboccella4107]

So far there's been little to no discussion on said topic. Why is that????

[@Goldun-nah]

I wanna hear Amish scary stories and Amish scary legends.?

[@CharlesDowiot-qv7pp]

JUST BE YOURSELF Some people marry and Have kids some people like to live single Being YOURSELF No one should judge you for living single just cause they are single Don't mean they are Gay If God Made Everyone Alike The World would be Boring Everyone is a Gift Amen

[@UGH2500]

Okay...I understand that the Bible talks about homosexuality being an abomination in the sight of God. What would happen to an Amish person that is gay but desires to live the way that God wants and abstain/repent of acting out on those desires....Do they receive support from the community or are they shunned still?

[@nicklindsay3418]

I think you need to reread the Bible.

[@arfriedman4577]

I'm pretty sure a gay amish would be shunned and kicked out. He said this at 3:30

[@williamboo9017]

I understand about so many other abominations in leviticus and deuteronomys ideas on juvenile justice. Great reading!

[@jakerinehimer1281]

There is no mention of homosexuality in the Bible at all not once.

[@sonnie6210]

But God never actually wrote books. We did. So it's translation and like most religions, they're too manipulate the masses

[@kimberley8902]

Why doesn’t he have an accent?

[@mskippi]

I would like to here more and the authors name.

[@kennethd.4994]

Are you created by the Holy Spirit?

[@kennethd.4994]

No offense, The Holy Spirit formed most of the Churches in Christ. God the Father, God the Son ,God the Holy Spirit formed these Ministries most not all Ministries are of God Ministries.

[@jasonsubhan8479]

I like your Amish hat What is it called in the Amish language?

[@viewsfrombelow5636]

a twinkle

[@frenchabortion]

A hat

[@susankellermann1840]

Hoot

[@viewsfrombelow5636]

@ hooters good chicken

[@Patzi-l1w]

Is this for real or are they just pulling the piss! Px

[@lilman0820]

yes there are gay amish

[@Ephemeral2023]

Neither of you have read the book you are going to talk about?

[@themisfitamish]

I know gay Amish people that are still in the church. FYI

[@PollyAlice2000]

Oh no! Now I ‘ll have to check my turkey for signs of abuse! I love my butterball at Thanksgiving, but I might have to go to a smaller turkey that people don’t find attractive!!!!! But who does that? Who is like that? Don’t go dancing with Butterballs, and don’t do anything else with them except let people buy and cook and eat them. Yikes! I had better rescue mine early each year, and only think of my cooking style. Then I’ll be okay! I always learn something new about Amish life, and I think it’s a good thing. People who know nothing about the Amish say things are wrong. We are Christian Catholics and we hear all the time people saying that we worship statues and Worship Mary, and all sorts of foolish things that we do not do. I’m reading a book by Lunden Roberts who had Hunter Biden’s baby daughter. I really wanted to know what went on in her belief system that told her it was okay to have a baby with this high profile man who was already married with children. Fascinating to see how she can morally just place the issue off to the side, and never really deal with it. Interesting book.

[@Arrabella2024]

There are many instances caught on undercover cameras by various groups, not just at Butterball, that show workers sadistically handling animals, not only sexually abusing them but mutilating them, throwing them around, and just causing them pain just because they can that's why it is so crucial to #govegan

[@JackedLantern-yt]

I’m no buying the niece story bud, Amish men can be 40 and marry a 13 year old well 14 year old as long as they are past 8th grade

[@BrianWaln-ry2hj]

I have a great deal of respect for the Amish...

[@nicholascoons5782]

I’ve never been attacked to women. We can be friends, but that is all!

[@shannonmackenroth256]

You can't prevent be gay .

[@HelloHello-pg6ik]

Was the Amish stud murder true story. They even made a movie of it.

[@Ro-Bucks]

I think I'll stick to ham this year lol

[@pincheguarito591]

I'm sorry if you've answered this before but if you live English why do you dress Amish? No judgement, just curious. My beloved Grandma grew up in southern Indiana and while not any brand of Amish still had a lot of Amish influence. The only cuss words she ever uttered were "Hinkledreck!" 😇

[@QueenOfArchers]

I've seen videos of Lovina's where she's dressed 'modern/normal'. I think they dress like this for the videos to make the connection clearer.

[@rin-eri]

Why on earth did you include these two topics together? :( You're just further enforcing stereotypes that being gay is akin to being a murderer.

[@valcal7096]

Thats how you interpreted what they said. I didn't get that message out of this video.

[@PollyAlice2000]

I didn’t get that at all!

[@cliffsnelgrove3560]

You are RIGHT ON!

[@petemavus2948]

​@@valcal7096 Still, it's bad judgement. Then again it seems everyone needs a gimmick or something sensational online for click bait.

[@gabrielaconstantinescu2038]

Why all negative stories? I am pretty sure these are rare. Anything good to say?

[@stephaniegifford2020]

You believe that God created everything and made no mistakes. God created gay people, is that a mistake or not?

[@danalittleton4884]

God didn't create gay people. What he do, was give us free will to make our own choices. He also gave us the law of which to live by. The 10 commandments.

[@arfriedman4577]

Sorry, a person is born lesbian, gay or trans. If the lord only wanted heterosexual people there would be no other types. Science has proven most people are born gay. Very few people decide to be gay. They're usually bisexuali.

[@danalittleton4884]

@robinhendrickson511 preach it!

[@arfriedman4577]

@@robinhendrickson511 thanks for removing my comment because I disagree with you.

[@robinhendrickson511]

@arfriedman4577 I did not remove your comment. The only comment I can remove is my own, someone else removed it. It wasn't me.

[@SpidersHandler]

Dude - I'm sorry you hurt your finger - I bet that hurt!

[@jeaniecalvin4891]

why are u wearing Amish clothes if you both left? Sorry, I'm new to the podcast so maybe you explained it previously..

[@karaoketam]

Are you really allowed to do what you're doing? Are you just a rebel? So you say.? What can happen if you got caught? by your preacher?

[@teresabarnett6767]

Wow.... I'm having ham!

[@BobbySonnNews]

14:48 oh my goodness 😮

[@strozombie.01]

*READ THE BOOK & DO A REVIEW*

[@crazyleaf257]

Every sin is possible to be tempted by

[@davidthomas2377]

Please educate me. I thought Amish people were against using modern technology. How can you make a KZbin video?

[@johnspringstorm4764]

He;s not Amish. Maybe he once was - he doesn't have the accent - he wouldn't be wearing his hat inside - his hair isn't right - etc., etc.

[@roxannemoser]

They're not Amish anymore

[@luckylogger7594]

Yes there are murders not many though.

[@thehuntsman8341]

I thought you were going to talk about thoughts Amish have towards gay people and people being murdered for being gay in Amish communities. Instead you went on to villainize gay people even further. Are you trying to say they murder people because they're gay? I honestly don't believe you guys had any ill intentions but I will admit it came off a super homophobic. I clicked on the video to hear an Amish perspective on gay people. I wish you guys would have given more of your thoughts on the topic. The reason I came here is to learn and I feel like I'm walking away nothing.

[@lorisutherland7728]

Your not listening to the answer .

[@philtarley5897]

It took three and a half minutes to say the GAY word. I had no idea what they were talking about. Its hard to stay tuned to these people who are so uncomfortable in front of the camera. Yikes

[@michaelscott5155]

They are Amish!

[@petemavus2948]

​@@michaelscott5155 *Were

[@daodejing81]

I personally like the homosexual word

[@AndyVille-qc5gm]

Are these two still in Amish community? I see electronic cameras and lighting. I didn’t think these are allowed.

[@cindykaye3152]

If you read on the page description, he explains that he left the Amish. Lovina is also former Amish.