Ep 48: Challenging the Jehovah's Witnesses

Lloyd Evans was an elder in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, before he left the organisation in 2013. He has since been campaigning to expose its workings to the public.
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[@tracyodai6021]

I almost lost my life! when had no blood and as brainwashed as I was I called my parents who came to the hospital with an elder insisting that I shouldn’t take blood , glad am I alive but I almost died am very awake now and I want nothing to do with them.

[@shaydenwadley]

There were other options available. Cell salvage , fractions of blood , saline expanders .. it’s not my business to say but there are other options ..

[@laymanphil8513]

The Watchtower Society wants uniformity, submission, and obedience. The JW is ultimately just a product made by the Watchtower. The Watchtower is an organization where any disparity disappears in favor of the collective. The Watchtower does not like artists who symbolize (artistic) freedom. Anything that exceeds the row is immediately removed from the row. If you have a talent, they will make you feel guilty. You will have plenty of time in paradise to exercise your talent, they say. I am sad to see these talented children (music, painting, studies, sport ...) who must choose between the world of Satan or that of God. Everything is manipulation in this sect.

[@tongakhan230]

All this shows that they (the JWs) has one worried. Unable to conform to the commands of Jesus, people try to pull down those who do. John 15:19  If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU. How about just ignoring them.

[@laymanphil8513]

Gone are the days when we exTJs kept silent in our isolation. Today let us be proud to have excluded this company from our life. Let us stand up and speak, bear witness, with a loud voice. The irony of history will be that the key date for Jehovism (1914) will also be the date that will buries it soon.

[@tongakhan230]

WOW! Someone sounds scared. Generally those who supposedly are EX are those who have been kicked out for immoral behaviour. Take Gamaliel's adivice. Acts 5:38 So under the present circumstances, I say to you, do not meddle with these men, but let them alone. For if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from God, you will not be able to overthrow them. Otherwise, you may even be found fighters against God himself.”

[@laymanphil8513]

@@tongakhan230 Today, unlike yesterday, the vast majority of JWs who leave this American fundamentalist cult leave it out of conviction and not for having committed a sin. It is not the watchtower that excludes them but it is the JW who voluntarily leave this dead end cult. I myself voluntarily left this cult in April 2019 like more and more people. The end of Jehovism is before us.

[@tongakhan230]

@@laymanphil8513 : That certainly doesn't make any sense. God promised to restore true worship during these last days (Micah 4:1-5). People go through 'hell' to qualify as a true worshiper, leaving their religions and embracing true worship. Then leave it. Makes no sense. They leave because they find that they want to have the cake and eat it too. That is mostly because of the belief that if the churches turn a blind eye to immoral behaviour of its members, why cannot JWs. Why did they become JWs in the first place if they didn't want to follow the rules? From what I know, people take months, some years trying to qualify as a true worshiper. After all that they leave. Makes no sense. They only leave because of being unrepentant immoral people. In other words they are kicked out. These videos are an attempt at self deception. If JWs are the ones whom God is gathering during these last days and whom Jesus is using to fulfill his last days prophecy at Matthew 24:14, just ignore them as Gamaliel advised.

[@laymanphil8513]

@@tongakhan230 It makes no sense to believe that we are in the last days as the JWs say decades after decades. We are leaving this American cult simply because it is going around in circles waiting for the end that will not come. The Watchtower was telling my grandfather that he would see the end. The Watchtower was telling my mother that she would see the end. Today the Watchtower tells me that I will see the end. Can't you see a problem? Luke 21: 8. Don't kid yourself, the hope of the WT is a hope tainted by temporality. This hope is constantly within reach of every follower and has been for over 140 years. This is why the hope "sold" by the WT is adulterated and toxic hope. All sects thrive through this same process. To make every follower believe decades after decades that they will see this hope in their lifetime is a well-established temporal deception. These promises are nothing but false promises continually maintained and updated decades after decades. The fact that WT itself is fully involved in crafting these bogus promises discredits this company. For example, having taught for decades that people who saw 1914 would never know death or the promise made to the first member of the great crowd of 1935 that they would see the kingdom in their lifetime or that peremptory assertion "of the millions currently alive will never die ”(1925) or more recently this artificial double and superimposed generation supposed to lengthen the sauce of a continually imminent end. In short, all these false promises will only fuel false hopes. The more time passes, the less 1914 will hold. The successive readjustments to keep 1914 today show its limits. This absurd double generation attests to it and participates well in spite of it in its discrediting. Ultimately the irony of this story will be that the key date for Jehovism will also be the date that buries it. We have the chance to live the time which will see the decrepitude of Jehovism. Still a little time is soon its new double generation which must not pass (like all the others) will pass (like all the others). Today times are so difficult for the WT that the CC is forced to regularly inoculate the virus of fear in the minds of the sheep. "We are in the last of the last days" or "Today the end is at hand". In short, the Montons are ready to swallow everything to prolong their collective illusions.

[@tongakhan230]

@@laymanphil8513 : Since God is gathering close to a 1,000 people on an average each day, then his giving time makes sense. 2 Peter 3:9 Jehovah IS NOT SLOW concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because HE DOES NOT DESIRE ANYONE TO BE DESTROYED but desires all to attain to repentance. 10 But Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be exposed. People who become JWs just because of the belief that that will help them escape the destruction, shouldn't be among JWs. By Jehovah giving time, all those with the wrong motives will leave. Thankfully! Those who will survive is described at Revelation 7:9,10,14. Why worry, if one doesn't believe in the promised end. Billions of others don't. They don't make a song and dance about it. Just ignore JWs as they do.

[@heatheradams8946]

Lloyd always gives a great interview..

[@nicosyiallouris1103]

Loyd is one hundred percent correct!!!!

[@hudsonchalmers6504]

I was disfellowshipped at age 77 for daring to question doctrines and policy

[@krissykatportal]

Watchtower needs to be held responsible for all the lives they have destroyed. I’m sorry u had to go through that. I’ve been in judicial committees before and they’re very intimidating. Especially as a 12 year old girl. But now u are free! 😁 And u can still have happiness in your remaining years.

[@hudsonchalmers6504]

@@krissykatportal Thank You Krissy

[@ready2danceagain]

So sorry, Hudson. Their actions prove them cruel, hugs to you. 💗

[@hudsonchalmers6504]

@@ready2danceagain Thank you I am relieved, hugs to you and all my new family

[@tongakhan230]

Helloooo! This is the 21st Century. Getting scammed is a possibility. Remaining scammed is unaccepted. People get disfellowshiped from Jws for immoral behaviour. There is always repentance and forgiveness. How about trying it instead of thinking that it is 'pay back time'. Just an observation.

[@leetrippii1830]

Great interview

[@gailcullinan349]

Excellent Lloyd

[@darrengreen9273]

Go Lloyd!!! TRUTH BE SPOKEN!!!

[@compositioncompilation]

Ezek 38 can be seen in play now..we re somewhere around Ezekiel 38:20-22..take a seat..watch it unfold !!

[@nicosyiallouris1103]

Thank you Loyd

[@olevegn]

Jesus Said : I am the way, the truth and the life No one comes to the father, exept thru me! This also include former Jehovas Witnesses

[@darrengreen9273]

BRILLIANT COMMENTARY!!!!

[@ne007ne]

I`m of no religion but I would never shun my kids, for their opinion. i love my kids more than any God. just don`t have children if you can`t love.

[@lizzieh5284]

This organisation is evil and definitely should not have charitable status.

[@Pequin1000]

The irony of their “truth”. Should be outlawed. Ending very soon, they missed COVID x

[@TheHandsomeman]

Lloyd, never misses a chance to stick the knife in?

[@tongakhan230]

Seems like another one who was kicked out of God's organization thinking it is pay back time. Alternatively, like many others, this is a scam to placate the gullible. No shortage of the gullible.

[@bornagain841]

Where do the JWs express their belief in the Trinity-Jesus as the Seed of the Woman who would crush the head of the serpent who according to the Scripture is to visibly return to Earth on the Mount of Olives? Who is the Am in the Gospel of John?

[@shaydenwadley]

Where does it state that Satan visibly returns on the mount of olives ? John 8 Jesus was referring to his pre earth existence. It cross references to genesis 3:15 . Ego emi (I am he) he is stating he was the one mentioned in genesis . Wasn’t claiming to be God almighty

[@googleshitsyt5557]

I am the Firstborn, brought forth. I am identical twins. I am Equal to MYSELF. Adam and Eve in the Genesis account was created for the Last Days; I already said that then ... Genesis 3:15. I AM MELCHIZEDEK. I AM EQUAL-MELCHIZEDEK. I HAVE NO END. I AM THE KEEPER OF ALL PROPHETS ON EARTH, FROM AEON TO AEON. Abel, Adam, Eve as HOMO SAPIENS did not exist. Cain is the evil in man, the dark side. Abel is the good in man, the light. Man needs to find and explore this light. The Holy Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation is a concise version of the Vedas to repent the outcast man; compare the Gospel of Mark to the three others. It is the Purpose of MYSELF, is to find yourself. A quest for everyone

[@tongakhan230]

Is one OK?

[@tongakhan230]

This is pathetic. It is like a person who joins a non smoking club being asked to decide if he or she would like to smoke. Why join the club if one doesn't want to abide by the rules. Just leave the club.

[@Mabeylater293]

You see your religion as a club?

[@tongakhan230]

@@Mabeylater293 : That was an analogy. Religion has been a club. Offer some money and become a member. Truth cannot be joined. One has to change and qualify to conform to true worship. If one was unable to understand my point. It was that others want to change the thinking of JWs to conform with their own. People become JWs because they ACCEPT that form of life. They KNEW BEFOREHAND WHAT WAS EXPECTED OF THEM. Matthew 24:9 “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. People who become JWs know this WILL HAPPEN. If people want to grumble and ask why can't they smoke like others do after joining a non-smoking club, then don't join the NON SMOKING CLUB. Simple.

[@Mabeylater293]

@@tongakhan230 true worship? What happens when you discover that it is infact not true? Many became baptized JW’s as children. And regarding Matthew 24:9 , whose name?

[@tongakhan230]

@@Mabeylater293 : Sorry! I'm not sure what one is trying to say. Matthew 24:9 is obviously Jesus' name. Jesus is making clear that his true disciples WILL BE persecuted. John 15:20 Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute YOU; The YOU are Jesus' true disciples. The ones he is using to fulfill his last days prophecy at Matthew 24:14. Guesswork isn't needed to identify who they are. If God PROMISED to RESTORE TRUE WORSHIP in these last days (Micah 4:1-5), it MUST GET FULFILLED. So, if JWs aren't the fulfilment of that prophecy, then there is nothing to worry, is there. There must be another group who fit all the signs. From what I know, no one can get baptized without his/her consent and without knowledge of what it implies. In other words, people who become JWs KNOW what is expected of them. If someone want to join a club or an organization or a school with the intention of NOT FOLLOWING the rules and wanting to make their own, why join in the first place. Start one's own club or whatever. That was my point. These videos just show a fear of JWs. An attempt to convince people that they aren't the ones spoken of in prophecy. If they aren't, just ignore them.

[@danmoore415]

@@tongakhan230 you sound more like Ghengis Khan.