Ep. 494 Blackie Lawless 🐝 On Ace Frehley and the Upcoming W.A.S.P. World Tour

[@RolandDeschain1]

W.A.S.P. have been consistently been putting out excellent music since the 90s. Some of their very best work, in fact. Unlike the vast majority of bands that got big in the 80s. Albums like 'The Neon God', 'Dying For The World', 'Babylon' and 'Golgotha' are amazing.

[@brennanthabault1351]

K.F.D. is Awesome!

[@wangota]

They have more music after I wanna be somebody? I never knew.

[@markusaurelius777]

@@wangota No shit eh? LMAO

[@stevenlosh4205]

I like your username and I like the cut of your jib! I would probably only disagree about Helldorado. I did like damnation angels, but that's about it.

[@jellejansen4073]

Glad you asked that question around the 35 minute mark to make the Ace Frehley producing the demo story clear

[@uskissvinylreferencepage3388]

I've been a huge W.A.S.P. guy since around '95. Last I seen them was in '97 or '98 on the K.F.D. tour. I think Blackie has one of the best minds in the business. I could probably spend an entire month picking his brain on everything.

[@kjnodwell]

Agree

[@machupikachu1085]

But you couldn't tho. He doesn't like to talk to people. He's not very friendly.

[@peteraron2621]

Been a blackie fan since the crimson idol masterpiece. I think he is an amazing singer songwriter very underrated in my opinion.

[@thebluesrockers]

When Mark talks, he sounds like the Teacher from Beavis and Buthead

[@scottbull8309]

Wow, stellar episode!!!, Blackie Lawless is amazing! Can't wait for the upcoming tour.

[@davidgillespie615]

Saw them January 3rd 1986 open for Kiss in Johnson City TN. They were great. I had the first 2 albums.

[@dcr8352]

I’m from the Bristol area and missed that! Bet it was great! Going to see them in November.

[@markdalton3900]

@@dcr8352 missed ir remembered them playing here im from Elizabethton

[@thebluesrockers]

I was lucky enough to see WASP warming up for kiss back in day and they killed it. I was a fan for life after that.

[@jameskonners8304]

I live for the nooks and crannies from the early days of KISS. Cool interview with Blackie! Great job with the questions as usual Michael. Keep it up 3 Sides.....

[@donovanedwards5150]

Fantastic interview!!!!!!!!! I could listen to Blackie talk for days about his experiences over the past 40+ years in the business.

[@steveandersen469]

Thumbs up from me and I haven't even watched it yet!!!!!!! Blue Kool-Aid drinker. Peace out from the Southern Tip of Vancouver Island, B.C. CANADA

[@beatleguise130]

Thank You 3 sides of the coin & Thank You Blackie Lawless!!! Great interview! Love Concert Atmosphere... Can’t Wait til I catch ya once again Live at The Wiltern.... Pyro,Blood & ‘Animal’ Please!

[@ericnelson7524]

Another AWESOME interview guys! W.A.S.P. has always been one of my favorite bands and Blackie is so business savvy and intelligent and articulate.

[@Sprucetroy69]

Great show!! Love KISS and Love Blackie Lawless! Very intelligent man. 🤟😎

[@kjnodwell]

Hey Three Sides this was an AWESOME EPISODE!! Blackie really surprised me...he was very insightful, down to earth and funny. I loved hearing his thoughts on performing, and how he views himself and the audience. Also some of the things he quoted that Gene and Paul said to him gave me goosebumps. Really glad u guys had him on and I wish him nothing but the absolute best for the upcoming W.A.S.P tour!!

[@jcollins1305]

What a great conversation with a genuinely interesting, engaging guest. I’m happy to see that Blackie seems to be doing well and touring. While not a huge fan of WASP, I wish him and the band well!

[@Rick-O-Shay60]

Big Blackie Lawless/W.A.S.P. fan ever since seeing them back in the late 80's. They played in some small venue in I believe, Mountain View, CA? anyways, the joint was so small (like 150 max) you can imagine how cool it was to see them do their thing so up close, & personal like. Blew me away!

[@loftchefen]

Wow. Realy great chat with blackie. Well done guys

[@franksaladino3938]

Blackie is right I was doing gigs back in the 60's to 90's in the NYC area there were over 350/400 bars or clubs offering live music 4 nights a week . I could do 200 gigs a year for 25 years , besides being on the road opening concerts for people like Edgar Winter , David Bowie , Cream , Humble Pie , but today a musician has no place like Blackie was talking about to learn how to perform in front of a live audience . Its sad Back in the 80's I know guys were doing 200 wedding a year , today that work is nearly gone . Its tough on musicians . The best thing to do as a musician any instrument , just get a You tube channel and just play you might get heard by somebody that could help you succeed in the business ,

[@stephenholden8955]

I rarely comment but watch every episode.. thank you for your dedication.. this episode was awesome.. just to hear someone who was actually there in the thick of it. Hats off boys oh and girlie

[@kens5660]

This is totally amazing!! I loved every minute of this one!!!🤘🎸

[@bluesoldier5330]

As a life long WASP fan I was very disappointed that the interview was so short. There are many questions that I wish there were time for. One of them being could a portion of the Setlist be dedicated to deep tracks such as Shadow Man or the masterpiece damnation angels. The Idol is my personal favorite and included with the CD was the DVD movie. I wish someone would ask Blackie if he could develop the Crimson Idol into a full length screenplay. he is the most gifted songwriter of my generation. And be assured that we will be at the Tempe Arizona and St. Louis Missouri shows. And thank you three sides of the coin and Blackie For such a stellar interview. I’d just like to add that I wish Mark could’ve been there.

[@machupikachu1085]

I think he only gave them 30 minutes. :(

[@W.A.S.P._Fan_Channel]

Thank you for this interview! It's a pity, that Blackie doesn't like the camera, but it's his right.. In any case, wonderful interview, where there was a lot of exclusive information from Blackie!

[@MichaelBrandvold]

Actually where Blackie lives his internet connection is not reliable, so video is difficult.

[@W.A.S.P._Fan_Channel]

​@@MichaelBrandvold Clearly, thanks for the information, he often gives interviews by phone, it's convenient for him i think and he himself has repeatedly said, that he is far from modern technology + unstable internet.

[@poppycock6572]

Great show guys!!! Been a WASP fan since their very first album. Thanks 😊

[@jefflanham1080]

The merch story with Gene was 1985 Sacramento Memorial Auditorium, my first KISS show . I was a die hard KISS Army……. But he’s not lying, the 13-17 crowd were all about WASP. I even remember the conversations at the time.

[@atlanticmilklord4049]

You guys failed to ask the million dollar question: Did Blackie Lawless & W.A.S.P. save KISS???? Nah, just kidding, fellas lol. Absolutely terrific show that is already an instant classic! Thanks, Three Sides!

[@paulsweningson6261]

Thank you for your great work. I always appreciate your podcasts and commitment to the greatest band ever! Rock on

[@markmedina5543]

I saw WASP at the Troub in L.A. 83/84

[@brianshattuck4476]

Saw WASP open for Krokus with Helix as the opener. Met Blackie by the fence going backstage. He signed BL. My friends never believed I met him. Haha!! Now in 2004 we opened for WASP in Seattle at the Fenix underground club.

[@machupikachu1085]

That's pretty cool. I still regret having my band turn down opening for Halford on the Crucible tour. :(

[@bobpugliese4428]

Wow takes me way back! I used to see Blackie and Nikki in London at the starwood. I never knew until recently that me and a friend were in the movie decline of the western civilization the metal years in a audience shot. Hollywood was a incredible experience in the 80s😮

[@PaulBosenJr]

My first concert was W.A.S.P., opening for KISS, and it set a REALLY HIGH bar for other bands. 30 years later I saw them both again, separately, but both shows were still above and beyond.

[@stevenov4843]

Which b-side is Blackie referring to ? It's not "The Manimal" is it ?? Because I thought that song was kick ass from Live in the Raw. In fact that is the song I'd be most interested in seeing live. That track wales!!!!

[@TheKiss1982]

Best interview Blackie ever done! And it was on your show. Great work. And Lisa nailed it. it was " Interesting" .

[@chrisoakley5830]

I've always loved to see or hear Blackie interviews. He's always well spoken and seems quite intelligent.

[@utopianblaster]

Fantastic episode. Thank you 3 sides. I'll be seeing the WASP show in Charlotte NC. Can't wait.

[@bryanspencer5475]

Saw W.A.S.P. with Kiss on the Asylum tour. The drummer was beaning people in the crowd with giant drum sticks. Great show.

[@mikkywhites397]

Brilliant interview,indeed

[@image30p]

I'll be honest just because I think it will be an interesting pov. I never really liked WASP album covers. But I always loved the first album. I like Blackie's voice and I enjoy pretty much anything he's recorded. Real quick! A magician picks him out of the crowd and they get into a conversation about Blackie's aspirations to become a rock star? Then gives him advice on crowd work haha! Compelling stuff!

[@vanhenry98]

W.a.s.p. debut is essential, saw them at 1,700 seat theater in 2005 with l.a.guns ,ratt. Metal church ,W.A.S.P. headlining ,still think about that show and line up

[@purpleguitar88]

Great interview

[@beatleguise130]

Lucky to have seen W.A.S.P. On 6 different Tours... Unlucky that I never saw them on The First album era

[@romelovesdan]

Blackie was very personable and provided great insight into the phycological aspects of performing. Was lucky to have seen the theatrics of WASP in 1984 in Hollywood, and on the Asylum Tour. This WASP 40th Anniversary sounds like a show to check out. Take someone who has never seen a theatrical show.

[@markmero7058]

He’s gotta do “medleys” of the lesser known albums and arguably, some of their best! Unholy Terror, Dying For The World… Neon God 🔥👍🏻🙏🏻

[@josephromero4585]

I saw W.A.S P opening for Kiss on Asylum tour ,then again playing Theaters in around 2005 ,which was the last time i saw them

[@js92css]

Been a wasp fan since middle school in the 80's, been a kiss fan since before I knew what music was. My friends older brother told us that wasp was a bad group of naughty dudes, so we knew we had to hear it, lol BTW, I even named my mexican black king snake pair after him. The male is blackie and the female is lawless, haha!

[@kissalive2]

Blackie is awesome. This show will be epic.

[@stevengoodman3498]

Great interview with Blackie all. Hope to catch him on the upcoming tour. Mike Duda on bass as well. Kick ass Blackie!

[@mikeg6666]

The first time I saw W.A.S.P was at a club opening for Metallica and Armored Saint was also on the ticket. We paid $10 to get in and I was at the stage , Blackie came out of a giant skull throwing raw meat into the crowd. What a sick show , the Electric Circus tour was also insane!

[@markwilliams6394]

When I saw them, Metallica opened for them. It was also my 20th birthday that day. He poured the blood from the skull on himself and then on the front row crowd too. He threw the raw meat and later some posters of the band too into the crowd.

[@mikeg6666]

@@markwilliams6394 Wow they opened for W.A.S.P. , that's cool I didn't know they switched it up. Those were definitely great times for metal , I'm actually supposed to go see W.A.S.P. and Armored Saint in August. It will be the first time they're coming here since the mid 90's and I haven't seen Armored since that time in the 80's. So I'm looking forward to seeing them one last time 🤘

[@markwilliams6394]

@MikeG66 Armoured Saint wasn't at my concert but I saw them open for Savatage or Testament back in the 80's. Wasp just came here around the end of last year. I didn't go, medical reasons. Now when I go to concerts, it's about seeing someone I haven't seen but that's really hard cuz I've seen just about everybody.

[@mikeg6666]

@@markwilliams6394 Yeah I hear ya on that , I'm having a major neck surgery in a week and a half so I don't know what kinda condition I'll be in August. Hopefully I'll be recovered by then and able to enjoy it. Also I love Savatage , I saw them open for Nugent in the early 80's , they were a great metal band but severally underrated IMO! Chris Oliva was a beast of a player and died way too young. Also there's really no one I haven't seen either from the 80's , I was lucky enough to be in the pit for Slayer's farewell tour in 2019 with Phil Anselmo and the illegals opening , along with Primus and Ministry. Phil played the whole set of Pantera songs which was cool. Unfortunately W.A.S.P. hasn't played near me since the 90's for some reason and Armored never comes around either , definitely looking forward to seeing old school original metal bands again!

[@markwilliams6394]

@MikeG66 actually got to meet WASP and got some cool off stage pics of them plus they signed my Last Command album. When Metallica came on the Masters tour, James kicked me for grabbing his leg. We both laughed. I was surprised they still had 2 front row tickets left by the time I got up to buy them.

[@jeremymiller7793]

Great interview!

[@bjrnsjohnsen1278]

Well actually Gene & Paul DIDN’T room together Blackie :)

[@stevenhokanson448]

Seen WASP open for Iron Maiden on their Power Slave tour. Got guitar pick from Randy Piper.

[@Casaboontha]

Saw W.A.S.P. in 1986 open for MAiden, in 1997, 2003 and 2005 on their own in CLubs. All in the Netherlands... When tickets go on sale I will catch them April 8. Blackie was awesome! Great show... would love to see a follow up.

[@keeooijman5159]

Tickets are already on sale for the Eindhoven gig. I've had my tickets since last year but the 2021 concert got postponed.

[@Casaboontha]

@@keeooijman5159 yes I know, but currently you cannot buy tickets....

[@scottmark5345]

THANKYOU!! I Love WASP - only seen them once - Adelaide Australia, I Love how easily Blackie can write a sex drugs rocknroll album or a social commentary/conceptual thinking album. Hes such a good song writer you know exactly whats on his mind.

[@ChrisBiersack513]

I enjoyed your interview with Blackie. As a long time fan of WASP and someone who introduced my son to them, it was fun to hear his perspective on so many topics. I have to admit that I was disappointed by his position that there are no new rock frontmen worth seeing. The premise is flawed if the argument is based on today’s bands not playing enough shows to get their stage performance right. Your silence about that was a bit disappointing, as well. Still love the show. 🤘🏼🖤

[@MichaelBrandvold]

What silence? I personally was part of that discussion and agree that experience playing shows is what helps turn someone into a great frontman.

[@ChrisBiersack513]

@@MichaelBrandvold Today’s most popular hard rock and metal bands play plenty of shows. I might have misinterpreted what Blackie was saying, but, it sounded like there’s no great rock frontmen anymore because they don’t have the chance to hone their stage craft like the “good old days.” I fear that you’re missing my point. My disappointment was that you failed to counter with “Have seen Black Veil Brides? Andy Black? Falling In Reverse? Ronnie Radke? Bring Me The Horizon, Oli Sykes?”Considering that Andy Black has appeared on 3 Sides several times and is a friend of Tommy Sommers, going along with the “they don’t make them like they used to” narrative is not what I’d expect from you guys. Having said that, I don’t expect much from most these days. 😉

[@bocagoodtimes1460]

Nice in depth conversation.....As far as the tour I really only want music up to and including Headless Children! It would be cool if they played ANIMAL...though I understand why they wouldn't. I'd love to know if the videos are going to be re-released in 4k etc. I have a feeling Blackie doesn't have the rights maybe? Such a great catalog of videos that need to be shown.

[@AlexxMichael]

Blackie ist such a legend. Saw them the first time in 1984 here in munich and then many times in 1986, 1989 and so on

[@markusaurelius777]

legend? LMAO !!!!

[@AlexxMichael]

@@markusaurelius777 well of course he cant be as successfull as you

[@markusaurelius777]

@@AlexxMichael Legends are: Mick Jagger, Jimmy Page, Richie Blackmore, Alex Lifeson...maybe you're getting the idea now reject?

[@uskissvinylreferencepage3388]

I would like to see him play Animal, but I understand that his belief system is at odds with it. No matter what he decides, I stand by him. He should cater to the fans a little bit, but he's gotta cater to himself first. With that said: My Tortured Eyes Black Forever Shadow Man Tormentor Wild Child Widowmaker Inside The Electric Circus Headless Thunder Head A Crimson Idol Medley like what was on Double Live Assassins Helldorado Damnation Angels Sleeping (In The Fire) On Your Knees Maybe a Neon God Medley of some sort Babylon Is Burning Mercy ..And literally ANYTHING else they may throw in

[@kens5660]

Never seen W.A.S.P but I definitely would love it!!

[@jeremymiller7793]

Mark has a good singing voice Solid drummer as well.

[@diljithayre9379]

Great interview good to hear Mr Lawless a bit sad that we in the UK cannot see wasp we missed that last year we've missed out this year what is great at you guys in the states have finally welcome the boys let's hope you show them a real good time wherever they land but you can't keep them I need to tour the UK and the rest of Europe nice to hear from Mr Lawless great interview people good luck all you lucky American fans the boys are back in town

[@tnix7396]

Love WASP but have never seen them live. When I was in high school they played a show at a club but it was 18 and over but we didn’t have a fake ID. Many years later in my small town in CT Blackie walked into a Subway when my brother in-law was working. I think one of the guys in the band is from this area. Great episode. Mark blew it

[@mikefromohio6489]

Wasp is coming to My Hometown Columbus Ohio November I haven't seen them since the last command tour and I met them at a local record store 1985

[@johnstahrstartcleanfitwell1051]

I remember seeing Blackie at the rainbow in LA and this must've been early 90s He was so freaked out because this girl was like stocking him… And he said watch the squirrel look around the corner stocking me and he was so freaked out about that I remember that about Blackie like it was yesterday lol lol

[@JismIsm-en4kz]

Not into WASP's music - but TOTALLY RESECT Blackie - He seems like a real down to Earth & SMART guy

[@joeyeagleton6597]

Blackie is best friends with Ace so should be a great show!! 😁😁

[@rocketmobile]

I was waiting for question regarding Bob Kulick, but...anyway Great episode!

[@MichaelBrandvold]

Only so much time and way too many questions to ask.

[@irocitZ]

I've seen WASP a bunch of times over the years so I can't remember the exact year, what I do remember is one of those times WASP did not play "Animal" I wanna say late 90s, I also remember being pretty disappointed and a litte surprised.

[@brettski2532]

❤️‍🔥Great Job Guys! Too bad Mark C. missed this interview. His overly excited “Fanboy Presence” was missed. 👍

[@jackbtlr17]

I agree golgotha is a great album

[@DeathPenny]

I’ll be there opening night in Vegas - can’t wait -I really hope the play Tormentor or On your Knees - was really hoping that when he was saying they were going back to the beginning and putting on the show that most people never got to see he meant the kind of show they put on for the first album- live at the Lyceum - you know with the meat and the rack drinking blood etc - not the electric circus lol - either way I can’t wait for the show it’s gonna kill.

[@mariorezendes4324]

Maria Brink and In this Moment put on the 2nd best theatrical show behind MADONNA BLONDE AMBITION 1990

[@kisscamaro1]

Loved WASP, they weren’t on the tour when KISS came to San Antonio. Is it true they were kicked off the tour?

[@SnarkShark-ys9hm]

The Oath!!!! Great song!!!

[@lrm215]

Always liked WASP Blackie is a great songwriter the first album I listen consistently actually right now!!!!!

[@nbdysfool3]

Blackie in 3…..2……1……. 12:50 you’re welcome

[@NobesBLO13]

Thank you

[@johnstahrstartcleanfitwell1051]

Ace WAS THE magical character of KISS!!! Sorry Gene!!!

[@MichaelBrandvold]

Nah, Gene blew away Ace. Even Peter blew away Ace.

[@eirikrdberg1161]

I didn’t get to see them cause they weren’t aloud to play in Norway in 1986 wgphen they were supposed to warm up for iron maiden. I went. Was pissed that wasp weren’t aloud on stage. Had been a fan since 84. 86 they were in the building and all they did was sing along with maiden on one of the new tracks. Heaven can wait. The oh-oh-oh part. Part of History, but it sucks. Wanted to see those clowns on stage.

[@Mrsilenciobackgammon]

Ooh da chewy hoo!

[@santinomiceli3180]

Excellent

[@tonyeckman4822]

Blackie rules! 'Nuff said. I'll be attending the Los Angeles show in December. Bring on the blood, guts, animal parts, voodoo and Metal!! Tony F. Corpse (Post Mortem Superstar)

[@teresaeckhardt8954]

THAT MENTAL DOMINATION IS TRUE IN RELATIONSHIPS IN THE MALE ROLE TOO... THE MAN IN GODS TIMING WILL BE THAT WAY TOO...WHOMEVER GOD DIRECTS TO ME...LOVING BUT DOMINANT IN HIS WORLD LIKE GOD MEANT IT TO BE...NOT CRUEL,,BUT A MAN OF DISCIPLINE IN HIS WORLD...IM JUST SAYIN'...

[@epicgravyfilms]

Nice intelligent interview.

[@lancecrocket2391]

Tommy's looks like bubbles tonight.

[@SEKreiver]

Blackie sharing that stuff with Ace was NOT a good thing. Ace was CRUCIAL to KISS, but then he started thinking about going solo. Ace WITHOUT the band was not the same. KISS could've ruled the first half of the '80s if Ace hadn't left. Ace never had the WHOLE PACKAGE. He just didn't.

[@MichaelBrandvold]

What Blackie shared with Ace didn’t push him to leave the band.

[@diljithayre9379]

I thought I'd come back and give another comment really really missed the boys in the UK hope they are back and yes he is ring master and controls everything on stage and the crowd very interesting comment if I was to do an autobiography f****** do it that would be interesting

[@MichaelBrandvold]

WASP have dates in the UK next Spring. Dates are on their website.

[@diljithayre9379]

@@MichaelBrandvold thanks bud going to be looking into it and definitely definitely will be there no front row wasp for life and death

[@gladiator22666]

I wanna be somebody 🤘......great show 👍

[@markmedina5543]

See ya in Anaheim........ Cant wait!!!!!

[@fidoflint]

I never got to see W.A.S.P. with KIϟϟ, but having endured the visually boring "Blackie in a hockey sweater" era, I can't wait to see the band return to their classic form. And as far as the tragedy of Mr. Cicchini missing his chance to go full fanboy on Mr. Lawless, allow me to say this with all due love and respect, in the words of Mark's least favorite KIϟϟ t-shirt: "Fuck you, you blew it"!😂

[@terryanthony5323]

"World Tour"? Does Wasp play something other than 200 seat clubs outside of the US?

[@MichaelBrandvold]

Yes World Tour… US 2022, Europe 2023. And before you write something that makes you look like an idiot… research where the band plays and how large the venues are. Oh sorry, too late, you look like an idiot.

[@steveandersen469]

Re-Thumbs up from me 👍!! AEROSMITH ALERT ⚠️ in the 6th minute!! 'In the 6th minute, people!!' 'Would you look at the time ⏲️?' AEROSMITH ARMY REJOICE!! You don't have to sit through 20 minutes of 'If 'It's My Life' had of been on Creatures, been the first single and video 📹, it would have saved the makeup 💄!!' 20 minutes of why Cheap Trick isn't a stadium band? 20 minutes of Izzy's Gourmet Pasta from 7/11!! 20 minutes of Ralph, inappropriately hitting on The Weather Girl!! AEROSMITH ARMY, this is your moment!! No Gene, no Paul, no Eric, no Tommy = No problem!! Forget the KISS Army, you won 🏆!! Blue Kool-Aid Drinker. Peace ✌️ out from the Southern Tip of Vancouver Island 🏝, B.C. Canada 🇨🇦.

[@trurobertson]

He needs to bring back Johnny Rod

[@bjrnsjohnsen1278]

Well I hear what Blackie says about the poster thing and Ace, but I just don’t think it ever was the case. Maybe he remembers wrong. I would like to believe it was true since I’m an Ace guy, but I doubt it.

[@MichaelBrandvold]

I totally believe it as I worked for KISS’ merch company in the early 2000s and I remember the McFarlane action figures… Ace was the best seller, followed very closely by Gene. Then came Gene and way behind was Peter.

[@glennhird8398]

Too many of us around..apparently. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 OYE !! OYE !! OYE!! And.. Does this mean he's BETTER THAN GEDDY LEE...? COZ HE PLAYS GUITAR AND BASS ......🤘🏻👱‍♂️🤘🏻

[@bratta69]

I’ve always thought that blackie has an incredible level of intelligence.

[@scottjackson4743]

Oh yes by the way I'm a first-time viewer

[@theadorebundy4514]

Chris Holmes!!!!

[@Otakutunes1]

Man I really hope to get some stuff from The Neon God

[@johnstahrstartcleanfitwell1051]

What do you guys actually honestly think about freaking JERKOFF Gene freaking Simmons? Honestly???

[@MichaelBrandvold]

Be honest, you don’t care what we think. You just want to troll us. Problem is you suck at being a troll.

[@MichaelBrandvold]

@@stephensdygert7600 can I send you some tissues to help with all your crying?

[@scottjackson4743]

The video starts when you say we're crazy like you're flipping out and Blackie loss to joining us the third person at the bottom the shaking their head and I'm like to block you Lawless go to the route of Axl Rose don't criticize me don't be mean this first thing I thought and I looked and I said no that's a girl

[@ChuckMarteau]

WASP was always a far better band than KISS