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[@michaelpascale9314]

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[@ecal9791]

here’s an additional question. once the driver is arrested and taken from the scene to jail can the passenger who’s been given authority over the car by the owner now grant consent for Officers to search the vehicle?

[@BluetoGold]

Assuming the passenger is not a co-owner of the vehicle (where the answer is simple, yes he can give valid consent), then this is what is called a “bailment” situation. In property law, a bailment is created when the owner of a piece of property (the bailor) gives temporary possession of his property to another person (the bailee) for some limited purpose. The bailee has possession of the property not title to it. Valid consent to search can be given by anyone with a sufficient interest in the property to be searched. A bailee can potentially be such a person where the bailor has assumed the risk that by granting possession of the property to the bailee, the bailee may consent to a search of the property in his own right. The answer is going to depend on the extent to which the bailee has been given possession of the vehicle. If it is for the limited purpose of driving the vehicle to a safe location in lieu of it being impounded, and for no other purpose, then the bailee would not likely be deemed to have a sufficient interest in the vehicle such that he could grant the police consent to search the vehicle. But if the bailee had been the more broad authority to simply take possession of the car, without any limitation on its use, then the bailee would likely have sufficient authority over the vehicle to grant consent to search. As with most Fourth Amendment questions, the answer is going to be fact-dependent and the officer’s ability to discover, articulate and assess those facts is going to be critical. The precise words used by the officer, the bailor and the bailee would be critical to the assessment here.- Zach Miller Legal Instructor

[@donlowry6469]

Moving someone from the scene has been ruled a defacto arrest.

[@heroesandzeros7802]

Whatever was found will get thrown out of court and he has a good Federal 1983 case for illegal search and seizure.

[@aggg5253]

The investigation on the stop should be over once you allow that passenger to drive. So you should not be extending the stop to search the vehicle in my opinion

[@ImaGoHam]

The passenger can say no then the stop isn’t extended. The passenger is the one that chooses whether to extend the stop or not.