Ep. 60 | Why Suppressed?

[@jkellyid]

Cans so dramatically improve the shooting experience and utility of a firearm. It's amazing!

[@DanielBoone337]

I'm an old country boy that's grown up around guns my whole life doing all types of high volume hunting like doves, ducks, and geese, lots of target shooting and trap shooting I never wore ear pro. It wasn't until I really got into AR15s that made me understand the importance of ear pro. Me and just about all of my family has to sleep with air filters or TVs running just to drown out the ringing from the way we grew up... Great podcast guys keepem coming!!!

[@VortexNation]

Ear pro is definitely an underutilized tool. Thanks for tuning in, Daniel!

[@kennethboucherie3215]

One of my favorite things is shooting with my kids and others is suppressed 22. It’s kind of the in between between air rifle and a center fire with no hearing protection so they can hear you can hear them and the whole experience is great.

[@Joeatsaco69]

This has been the best non optic review you have ever done. The scopeS and varied information was Amazing. You did not mention SilencerCo or SilencerShop which both make it easier with +/- on each one. Great review. I search for my today interest on your page daily. I have 2 cans in the hopper and an SBR. Once your in your all in. Again. Thank you.

[@MortenM80]

Here in Norway we go to the store, buy the supressor, and we're done. No registration, taxes, forms or nothing.

[@larsjohansen2086]

But to buy a gun in Norway🙈 25week waiting for the permission💣

[@MortenM80]

@@larsjohansen2086 it's truly ridiculous here in Norway. Been three years since I bought my last gun, and it took 12 weeks to get the application approved, and I thougt that was bad

[@johnhansen1684]

@@larsjohansen2086 However if you own a gun already you can get the new one on Loan from the store so in practice you get your rife the same day aswell.

[@witkr904]

That’s the way it should be. You are buying an accessory, not a gun/rifle/pistol/revolver.

[@Disagree2agree]

Looks like i'm going to Norway...

[@st05002125]

In the UK, suppressors (also known as Moderators) are required to be on your firearms licence for firearms, but can be easily requested when requesting a slot for a rifle for your licence. The longest wait is awaiting approval for the slots or application for the firearms licence. The suppressor must me transferred in person and can’t be bought online for delivery. But if it’s in stock and you have the cash, you can walk out without paying extra tax and a need to wait months. New licence request is approx £90, any variation to the licence is roughly £20.

[@MrT13]

But can you put one on a pistol

[@sj257257]

@@MrT13 no firearms pistols are allowed in the uk.

[@MrT13]

Well then.

[@jheasley1]

Really Enjoy all your videos on suppressors

[@CowboyHunterPodcast]

The public I hunt that is a mile from my house(with houses between me and it) is butted up to two properties with houses 50’ from the property line and the house on the other side is close enough you could throw a rock and hit it from that property line. If you’re shooting from the trees the noise probably isn’t bad, but there’s a swamp and a prairie on the front side with nothing to dull that sound.

[@danieltimler-we2xu]

Great podcast, Quick detach vs direct thread?

[@ClearStreamsUK]

Just to correct a point. Here in the UK you do have to register suppressors

[@alexgenereux4704]

Which would you guys recommend. I am looking at silencerco harvester or the omega. Mainly used on a 7mm bolt gun for hunting but probably would use it on an ar15 here and there. Just curious what your thoughts are?

[@VortexNation]

Love the Harvester for hunting and as long as your strings of fire with the AR aren't high round count and crazy fast then you should be good to go.

[@bhoward2310]

My biggest beef with suppressors is the cost. Muzzle brakes (most made with R&D behind them) are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper which makes it hard to understand why something that is not drastically different in materials and R&D is SO much more expensive. Not to mention the addition of the tax stamp. To add to that, as Jim has proven, I can build a gun for long range shooting and hunting for under $1k, but add a suppressor to it and now the cost of that setup has doubled, for a device that is more of a convenience than a necessity. I think once the cost of suppressor ownership comes down, more people will be willing to commit. Myself included.

[@DIYSteveH]

Guys two mistakes 3db not 10 dB doubles the sound energy. 10db is an increase of 10x sound energy. Secondly it is pronounced Tin-Nit-Tus these are all short i sounds. Great job overall on the topic.

[@jmkhenka]

No.. 3 dB is a doubling, 10 dB is 10 times more (its rounded, but in all practicality its true). Sound volume decrease exponentialy with distance, like rings on water. So thats why dB logaritmic is logical for sound levels.

[@letsgobrandon416]

This is fantastic! After watching this, I want a suppressor for all my guns! Suppressors for everyone! We really need to get suppressors off the NFA!

[@kc_woodsman7504]

*we really need to get rid of the NFA

[@theblishknovk]

We need the NFA and ATF comeplety gone. All of ot is unconstitutional non sense that we are forced to pay for through taxes.

[@w6dfmp242]

My why not answer has always been added length, weight, and cost. It would need to be a special need for me to make that trade off, probably not something I’d consider in a field gun, dedicated range gun probably.

[@jmkhenka]

Im from sweden and here supressors are legal for 222/223 rifles and over (its more complicated then that, but for simplicity). But we separate weapon license for hunting vs weapon license for competition. You can own a AR15 for competition in sweden, with a supressor, but you are not allowed to hunt with it. Anyway. I use supressor when i hunt. generaly i dont use protection when doing so - at most i shoot 1-2 shots and when in the open its not that bad. It lowers recoil alot and it disturbs both animals and people less. I find the tradeoff worth it. Also i shoot better with supressor, as the recoil and rifle balance is better. I have a 20" Howa mini in 6.5 grendel and 308 Winchester 70 22"

[@leifhoklin2681]

That ninja/muzzle brake analogy sounded like something Ricky Bobby would say. lol

[@stuartmclennan9189]

I`m from NZ and suppressors here are almost compulsory. I`ve been out shooting with guys who don`t have suppressors and they get frowned upon. You can go to any gun shop & buy one or two or as many as you want and get them immediately.

[@VortexNation]

That's awesome! Aren't gun laws in lots of others ways super screwed up over there though?

[@stuartmclennan9189]

@@VortexNation Hi, no not really, our gun laws are better than most countries considering the law makers wouldn`t know one end of a gun from the other. I`m not sure what you have heard but the new government has tried making improvements to the gun laws in a knee jerk reaction to the mosque shootings which hasn`t achieved anything positive. The national gun owners groups have protested the changes so not much has changed. The main changes are banning of semi autos & magazine capacities of maximum 10 rounds. Pistols are very hard to buy but not impossible (lots of regulations). There is no gun register so you can own as many guns as you want and no laws limiting the amount of ammo you can purchase... -)

[@MrT13]

@@stuartmclennan9189 sounds like a lot of laws to me.

[@shafffisher]

@@MrT13 Not really. I'd rather have our gun laws than the USAs. I can own and shoot as many suppressed rifles as I want without the need for expensive tax stamps and long wait times. People complained about banning centrefire semi autos but how many people really need them, like really need them? I'm a farmer and even with a pest problem semi autos have never been a necessity. A short handy suppressed. 223 bolt gun will kill goats just as good as a semi.

[@MrT13]

@@shafffisher well the pistol part does it for me though. We can have pistols. We can even have rifles and call them pistols. But the whole need center fire semi auto? Refer to South Africa…… we don’t have ar15 and ak47 for hunting, pest control, or putting down farm animals… as far as no gun registry. As many as you want. We can do the same thing. You can buy or make as many guns here as you want and not have to register any of them. And no we don’t have a limit on ammo either. So I dunno agree to disagree. But we have all the same laws as you except for 1. Silencers. But 30 round 40 round. 110 round. Magazines. Full auto stuff. Semi auto center fire. Pistols. We can have literally have a dozen more things. But yes you get silencers. Sorry. But it’s 10 to 1.

[@zactanner5187]

Negatives for me with my Wolfman, granted these are not always a factor, are POI shift, weight on the end of the gun and added overall length.

[@ironmikehallowween]

Yeah, I like suppressors and hope to get one soon, but electronic ears are better for hunting and for hearing protection. They actually amplify normal sounds and provide greater noise reduction. I want a suppressor for my neighbors as I have my own range. I use subsonic 22 quiets when introducing new shooters. And, if you really don’t want to not disturb other animals in the woods, use a bow. It’s even better for your ears.

[@joshwilcox8941]

What can is he holding at 4:15?

[@kevinrose7275]

In England having a Moderator is simply a matter of good manners... No charges, licencing etc

[@pepperoni-prepper]

1.20 hours of 100% biased discussion lol. was still interesting to listen to.

[@senditsniper]

Great discussion on suppressors. The world has been mad on regulating these things for ever . Its absolutely mental you need any excuse or reason to own one of these . Owning one should be no different to owning a fishing rod . You can own a fishing rod with no licence or permit but you need a licence or permit to use it. It should be exactly the same system to own and use a suppressor they are not a gun and are harmless Well done fellas

[@YdoIneedahandle869]

Maybe we should all file a class action lawsuit for the permanent hearing loss suffered during the wait time

[@lucaswoods1155]

The forbidden popsicle!!!

[@jjgriffin3275]

you basically said it - its an accessory, it makes it more quiet so what, a scope helps you see better and farther, a better trigger helps you shoot better, a butt pad makes it shoot softer, a bipod gives you more support, etc... supressor and short barrels just makes no sense, a shorter barrel gives you worse ballistics so why is that regulated vs a longer barrel? just makes no sense

[@kyleedwards4420]

Why is his face bloody in the exact same place on both sides?

[@colemanmize3779]

@@Phil-sq8lt That's some serious gas blowback!

[@stevenhoffman2003]

In some areas a rifle report can be a dinner bell to a bear

[@tompanek7511]

ANY bullet sound over 100 DB is bad for human ears! NOT 140 DB! This is why noise canceling ear protection is better and much much cheaper.

[@joshwilcox8941]

Tell OSHA, not us

[@ironmikehallowween]

You are too logical and they don’t look as cool. Plus, they aren’t on call of Duty.

[@LONEWOLF-fc5xs]

IN DANMARK WEE CAN BYE A SURPRESSOR, WITH OUT PAPERWORK🙂🙂 Funny usa is so afraid off it.

[@YaketyYakDontTalkBack]

Was hoping you all would go into form 1 suppressors, and suppressors in self-defense cases/situations.

[@VortexNation]

Just had to leave room for more podcasts in the future :)

[@jjgriffin3275]

HAHAHA, candy bar was 99 cents, now 3.50

[@somebb]

Instead of wasting ammo, can you clean your suppressor by putting it in the oven?

[@gundog7199]

When I was a kid in the 1960s you could get two pieces of candy for a penny

[@dalemaloney255]

what was pennys last name. i think i new her!

[@dalemaloney255]

we used to get a whole payday candy bar for a nickel. at the gas station we could get 6 candy bars for a quarter, no tax. really! any brand.

[@milleroctober1996]

IL here and they are banned from the state sadly

[@witkr904]

What isn’t illegal in Illinois?

[@milleroctober1996]

@@witkr904 I call it mini California. Because of how messed up the state is.

[@CraigMay]

Waited 8 months.

[@glennedwardpace3784]

What are the dots on his face

[@472BB]

Looks like some blood on each of his cheeks, almost like open blisters...

[@michaelvangundy226]

Why can't we get a new law passed de regulating suppressors?

[@witkr904]

Technically, the ATFE does NOT have authority over a Suppressor. It is an accessory, not a firearm.

[@NiMi93]

$200 was $4000 back in the mid-1930s

[@SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so]

In Glorious People's Republic New Jersey suppressors, short-barreled guns and "assualt weapons" are illegal. Forbidden Fruit.

[@mrzrog]

$200 in 1924 would be $3,465.63 in todays money.

[@CQCMachine]

I like my trucks loud and my gun's quiet because the govt sucks! 🤘😂

[@nickm9134]

18 min in and you missed the important part that the ATF also screws you making you wait like 6-8 months for your paperwork to clear.

[@andrewcappiello5585]

WHAT? Not really funny. I can't have them in my state. They want me to go deaf, they want me to scare game, they want me to piss off my neighbors and make their dairy cattle go dry. I don't have enough time on the job to retire and move. I have elderly parents who need to some help, they aren't moving. Worse yet, they want an inappropriate amount of social control.

[@witkr904]

“Me and Jim can use our Economic Degrees?” How about an English Degree?

[@theblishknovk]

Only reason i dont have a can is because i refuse to give 200 to the government to ask permission. It makes my blood boil. They already take far far far too much money through other taxes. It is absolutely absurd to me. ATF and NFA needs to go immediately.

[@freeandcriticalthinker4431]

I would love to have a suppressor, but the issue of being put on a list is the issue. I can’t believe you guys NEVER brought this problem up! Let’s not pretend this could not one day be a very real problem. It’s a shame this is the situation but that is the current reality and not discussing it is simply not being honest about the topic.... very disappointing guys

[@VortexNation]

By that logic, then you'll likely never have a suppressor. What's worse? Not having a suppressor or being on yet another list you're probably already on simply by owning the firearms you do, watching podcasts related to suppressors, google searching whatever other firearms related topics you might be searching, etc. Chances are, if there's a list, we're all probably already on it. Might as well be on it with a suppressor on your gun. At least, that's one way of looking at it. Maybe you feel differently, and that's fine, but people openly discussing the drastically misunderstood topic of suppressors really doesn't seem to be the overarching problem here?

[@MrT13]

I think the more ppl on a list the better. Shows they can’t outlaw it or further infringe. Like prohibition.

[@freeandcriticalthinker4431]

@@MrT13 you mean like the one that we are just a month or so, maybe weeks away from ?

[@MrT13]

@@freeandcriticalthinker4431 sure. That one. The one you get put on when you buy a gun. The one you got put on by watching this video. The one you get put on by voting republican. All of them.

[@MrT13]

They already got my info. I was born here. Vote red. Own guns. Own cans. Have a 5400.13 fel. And if they came knocking well I don’t suppose my front door is going to stop an armored swat truck now is it.... if it’s legal now. And I can do it I do it. Not going to come up with excuses on why it may or may not this or that ever happening or not ever happening. It’s a pretty short blip on the grand scale of things.... one person calculated a grain of sands distance on a football field.... I’ve got buckets of food. I’ve got ability to make water. I’ve definitely got the ammo and such. But to each his own.

[@Boringunguy]

It’s called a silencer… why is it so hard to just call it by it’s name?

[@Boringunguy]

@@redacted2618 someone should tell silencerco they need ti change their name then.