EP18 Iranian Interconnections

Iranian-born historian John Ghazvinian's new book is about the history of the U.S.-Iranian relationship. He and Dan discuss coups, oil, religion, history, arms deals, Shahs, U.S. presidents and wars.
1. “America and Iran: A History, 1720 to the Present” by John Ghazvinian.

[@robbiewalsh6965]

Dan you uploading is like Xmas, thank you for inspiring as all, if it wasnt for you I would have never taken the leap and began my history degree! When I have kids one day in the future, I hope to sit down and share your podcasts with them. Thank you for your hard work and every minute you put in is apprecaited.

[@seandawson5899]

Ditto

[@jdub1742]

Us all*

[@jestermoon]

Yes

[@tonywilliamson8882]

I always come away from a Hardcore History show having learned something new. Please never stop what you do.

[@سمانهپورهمدانی]

so new to hear it as an Iranian. the contextual vision seems so realistic and can be felt in Iran

[@Tortellini-kf3ru]

Just finished the supernova series. Most profound experience I’ve ever gotten through media. As if watching the most incredible Hollywood film, except it all happened. Thank you for your work.

[@jdizzle9011]

This is a special day ladies and gentlemen. An upload from Dan is a special thing.

[@watcherofthewest8597]

Mr. Carlin has made the study of history by the average, non-academic American acceptable in the ever expanding media markets made possible by the internet. Not only a great storyteller, but a pioneer! Thank you Mr. Carlin!

[@greenmtroamer33]

And here I was thinking about re watching some of your older content for the 3rd or 4th time lol. Thanks Dan!! 🇺🇸

[@andrewpickering5180]

I love your format, depth and insightful style. Thanks for letting me know more than I did before you explained it.

[@edmundjustin7360]

Christmas in January! Thank you Dan!

[@aribpm]

The stories my father tells me from Iran are crazy. He fled back in the 70s when the Sha was being thrown out. He was in the Iranian army and fought in Oman back in the 60s. The things I have told my buddies brought them to send me this video. They thought I was full of it until you helped confirm the stories my father shared. Last time I went was 2005. Beautiful place.

[@chrislee3601]

Honestly one of the things I get the most hyped about. Thank you for your hard work, Dan!

[@shahpoetix]

Ghazvini book is one of the best books I ever read on Iran. I have read many, but his book shows the hope and despair of the Iran/US relationship over the years. I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand what is happening today in the context of history between these two nations who share so many similarities yet are so perplexed by one another. 🇮🇷🇺🇸

[@bradleywilliams1615]

Why did KZbin not show this on my feed. This is the main reason I use it. Good to have some more awesome content Dan. TY

[@altaccout]

Excellent episode, once again as always.

[@nowwithvitaminr]

he just uploaded it 10 minutes ago?

[@Brycieb00]

May God bless you dan carlin. The hero we don't deserve, but desperately need right now.

[@ziryabjamal]

Always love to listen to discussions centered on the Great Game

[@sulthasserlin7533]

WOW! Only one month between EP's this is great. I can now watch the other EP I've been dying to watch. Then wait another month to watch this! Your content is too good and rewatchable that making the first time seeing something is always worth the wait

[@Ephemeralanimal]

Loved this. Only had a small understanding of what happened in 1953 from 'confessions of an economic hitman' but really appreciate the greater context

[@DbleOohWoo7]

😨😨😨😨😨 😱😱😱😱😱 I am so happy for this. Thank you so much Mr. Carlin, you are an absolute inspiration to history geeks!

[@oldtommorris5502]

FUCK, what timing. Sitting here on Friday night combing through your stuff looking for what I haven't heard and this pops up. Thanks!

[@davidkeys8720]

Great episode, thanks Dan for sharing with us :) :)

[@dshepherd107]

Yes! Yes! Yes! I’ve been jonesing for a new episodes

[@LawrenceOnlineEnglish]

Nice show. The 'friendly Iran' mentioned at the start was after the US and Brits helped overthrow democracy: 'The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953.'' While not many Americans remember the friendly Shah for Iranians it is not so easily forgotten. '

[@twt000]

Mosaddegh was their only hope. Just like Salvador Allende in Chile.

[@bhajandaniel9771]

Dan has a candy-coated view of the character of America, not seeing it as the neo-colonialist, militarist nation it is.

[@SoloPerICommenti]

​@@bhajandaniel9771yeah, that's the worst part of his work

[@pierre-marchart193]

Thank you so much Dan

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

Sending gratitude from a Daoist monastery near Seattle! 👍🏻💙☯️

[@foxysideburns5741]

As much as I love a new Carlin episode, still waiting for his next big mega series. A new mini episode coming just means I’ll have to wait 3-6months for whatever he comes out w next. Still great full though

[@PanzerQuick]

He said he had a couple of hours already into it on Twitter. Hopefully, another month or two it should be here.

[@chellybub]

We've had a fairly consistent upload schedule though since the last supernova episode. One a month. Keep in mind the entire time the team has been working on another series and these addendum episodes are just interesting interviews to tide us over and keep us listening. I can empathize a little though, I always get the slightest bit of disappointment when I see a new Dan Carlin upload and it's an addendum episode. Mind you, once I start listening it's always great. But nothing is ever as good as the series. Fingers crossed we get something big soon. Does anyone know what Dan is working on?

[@0sm1um76]

@@chellybub my fingers are crossed he finally does Alexander!

[@TrollinFromFlask]

@@0sm1um76 he should start with Philip

[@PanzerQuick]

@Osmium in Kings of Kings he talked about Phillip and Alexander a little bit. So

[@Mr_Ronny_Z]

Thank you Dan, really all of your work it's so interesting and entertaining to listen to

[@DIDOS]

This one was amazing. Something to aspire to. 👏👏👏

[@robertc6712]

I literally had just finished King of Kings and then this come out. It's like a sign from the universe! Can't wait to burn through this Addendum 🙌

[@Run.Ran.Run1]

Prerevolutionary Iran was fascinating. I wish I could go back there.

[@nahiag]

Which one? 😉 Pre 1953 or pre 1979? Just imagine the shoe on the other foot. Imagine if a foreign power would, in a coup, made Bush/Clinton/Trump a permanent president and abolished the congress... would it be so far fetched that "we the people" would have joined forces under a conservative Christian umbrella to oppose the foreign backed dictator?

[@Run.Ran.Run1]

@@nahiag 1979, and I agree. Hindsight has 20/20 vision. The average person thought that modernization was beneficial to the world. Theology should have A place in leadership, but it should not have THE only place in leadership.

[@MrTaxiRob]

@@Run.Ran.Run1 Our Founding Fathers WISELY gave it NO place in leadership

[@Run.Ran.Run1]

@@MrTaxiRob yes, and look at the shameful results walking around there today.

[@MrTaxiRob]

@@Run.Ran.Run1 the shameful results of American democracy are the religious zealots who put their religion in place of objective reality. It's their right to exercise their religion, it's not their right to push their religion's morality onto everyone else.

[@mrme8521]

This is much better than the guest you had on asymmetrical warfare

[@skylinegtsrock]

2 seconds in and I've already smashed the like button 😁

[@DW7139]

Thank you Dan for another wonderful interview

[@nahiag]

Dan, I'd love to to talk to scott horton about his book "enough already, time to end the war on terrorism" it goes through the wars/interventions from 1979-today.

[@susanmcdonald9088]

You might suspect Israelis & belt&road partnerships...

[@QsLegend24]

This is early! Always love a Carlin post

[@BubblewrapHighway]

I love Persia for Zoroastrianism's anti-slavery clause and the healthy partying spirit. 🎉

[@kevinmckenzie4814]

Bought the book - great talk.

[@andrewfrasier2060]

I could have listened to this for hours

[@MazzInCali]

Listening to DC’s channel cleanses all the BULLSHIT I’ve mentally consumed over many months with one episode. Thank God for you and your content. We love you. Keep it coming.

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[@IamEarlSoldier]

Babe, wake up. New Dan Carlin just dropped

[@robertcavanna789]

I have absolutely met someone who referred to themself as "Persian". Incidentally, one of the best looking women I have ever seen.

[@cannonfodder4376]

A new Dan Carlin video!? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.

[@redpilledpict2747]

Great conversation. One thing i would say,that i remember hearing tales of the brutality of Savak back in the early 1970's. In the years just before the revolution a few cinemas (with multiple casualties) were burned down by religious extremists so it felt like something was happening.

[@poorang900]

The stories were mostly made up by revolutionaries either communists or religious Islamist. They wanted to agitate people against the king (and had help from BBC in spreading the rumors and lies ) untill they succeeded finally

[@redpilledpict2747]

@@poorang900 No the news clips i read were in my local paper and they were not political,just reporting on the tragedies. In the same way they would report on say a factory fire in a garment factory in Bangla Desh.I did read a novel Caravans by John Michiner in the early 1970's where he thought Afghanistan would certainly end up in the orbit of either Russia or the United States,and the outcome would not be good.I suppose they should have learned from the British defeats way back in the day !

[@dustinmiller1107]

What a compelling storyteller

[@aaronkalahar-_-_-]

We missed you Dan and Ben!!!!

[@Hdarg]

I have to say that the Addendum shows idea is a success. This small shows are great to listen while waiting for the big ones. I think a good idea would be to have more autobiographical shows, like the war games one.

[@oO-_-_-_-Oo]

I am a big fan of knowledge.

[@John-209]

Dammit I wish I had you as a teacher. You inspire me to learn

[@biosphere7762]

I like How strated the interview form simple to complex

[@MyMomSaysImKeen]

Dan Carlin is the closest thing to a father I've ever had.

[@geesixnine]

Continue his legacy

[@SecretMarsupial]

Same

[@jasonsimms4238]

Thats sad. Dont get son'd

[@aribpm]

Take that and go be a father figure to someone else who needs it. You will find solace in helping out people who were just like you.

[@grazzitdvram]

that's pathetic.... go talk to a neighbor, dan doesn't even know you exist....

[@derrown1233]

Just what I needed before I start spend Friday evening painting walls

[@Swoost]

I really want to know what he thinks about the current protests after saying we should never assume there will be a regime change. Should have another follow up discussion

[@ExcessiveModeration5]

Does anyone else get Red Alert / Command & Conquer vibes from the intro?

[@colinfraser7150]

"Hidden Iran" by Ray Takeyh is a great book if you want more Iranian modern history.

[@geesixnine]

Miss your vids Dan!

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you.

[@davinelm1545]

Every time I get a notification that a new episode drops I think...is this it? Is this the first of an 8 part series on the Crusades?

[@MaN2Mega]

Amazing podcast, too short only 👍

[@chadc4324]

Dan for the love of God please release a new main show

[@HanzArtBodybuilding]

Dan Carlin is like my Grandpa 👴 telling me an old war Story -at this point 🙌

[@adamdarmstaedter1256]

A great documentary about the history of oil and the role it has played in geo-politics is called The Prize.

[@kyleerickson6022]

Is it based off of the Yergin book? I would highly recommend the book too

[@crabbuckets7506]

Was a great listen, thanks Dan!

[@samwoodward5885]

This is Dan’s way of saying: “one more month till the big one!”

[@miendude]

The audio quality wasn't as bad as you made it seem, it was actually okay. I've heard wayyyy worse on some "high production" podcasts with background noise and hissing...

[@justsmashing4628]

Dan, please upload the Khan series…pretty please 😊

[@zakcl00]

Go to the website, its in the shop for a few bucks...

[@BubblewrapHighway]

For the price of a coffee, you can have the entire 13th century in your pocket. Que the Mongoltage!

[@DrDanMD]

Keep it up Carlin

[@rickwrites2612]

Not only do people not recall a pre revolution Iran, but they do not remember that a significant part of the revolution were educated ultra liberal left secularist elements who did not want religious fundamentalism, but just a secular democracy free from US hypercapitalist interests - similar to many elements of the Arab Spring. Including many women and feminists. Unfortunately the majority of the anti-Shah were religious fundamentalists who used the progressives, then turned on them and killed and/or tortured them for years, and made them second class citizens. It's part of why many were very suspicious and not idealistic about the Arab Spring at the time.

[@TheAgent474747]

now We know Iranians has a huge appetite for revolution

[@gregliles6387]

New DC! Hooray!

[@deusvult5247]

Dan Carlin I love you

[@rumpelRAINS]

Why haven't you had Mike Duncan back on the podcast to talk about his book on Lafayette that came out in the summer?

[@brocktonma.1816]

2 sharp guys.

[@josephhummel3460]

Firsties. I can't wait to listen to this

[@paulduffy4585]

The timing.

[@TheAgent474747]

you should talk with Amir Taheri about middle east. He know a lot about Iran

[@twonumber22]

We appreciate the Addendums.

[@ARIXANDRE]

Waiting for a Cold War, epic 10 hour show from Mr. Carlin, with everything from Vietnam to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan.

[@leeroyjenkins8317]

Yessss YESSSSSSSSSSS ✊💖✊

[@shivarajnidavani5930]

Dude pls do in person

[@dustyfairview9062]

Yay!!!! Dan !!!! Yay antiquity!!!!!

[@mustavogaia2655]

There is a point - around the 1h mark - when the guest cant be heard, but otherwise the audio seems ok. Maybe not perfect compared to other occasions, but I dont think that it impeded comprehension. It was probably just NSA/CIA interfering with Carlin.

[@ldog50]

Should I be watching these in order?

[@jasonsimms4238]

How did they not talk about the assasination of general suleimani?

[@cluhendrix8432]

Oh yea, here we go

[@DroklesHD]

Sounded interesting, but the sound quality is just too low.

[@susanmcdonald9088]

Just starting podcast, but I'm wondering, Dan, where the history of your guest was, schools, etc. Also, I hope to hear about the current leader educated PhD in Scotland, with friends like Jack Straw & Rothschild... What's that about? Any chance Greater Israel & the Belt&Road partners (all against the U.S.) will meet at the Euphrates River (and reason we were used to destroy Iraq?)? I hear absolutely no accent.

[@ariadanzig434]

Why did u Move there ?

[@Parlayyo]

Ancient History is Better !! Waiting Patiently…

[@onedone2011]

1:07:53 ..... you don't say?

[@alz.7716]

Right, so the Islamic fundamentalists pulled millions out of poverty according to this account. They definitely didn't ruin the Iranian economy while lining their own pockets and impoverishing millions of decent Persian people.

[@velocirshtr3756]

Think of how large the population is to begin with, and you’re telling me you want have a couple of million people who have lived a successful life and praise their government for it. Same within the US, it’s the 1/10 of 1% who are successful to a point where they do their America’s own marketing campaign via social media, meanwhile, tens of millions of Americans are living literally on the edge of poverty. Tens of millions which is comparable in size of whole countries in Eastern Europe.

[@thevoid7863]

The guest is a NIAC agent bribed by the Islamic republic to spread it's bullshit. I love Dan but this infuriates me as an Iranian.

[@pouya5625]

Right now Iran's gdp is lower than what it was at 1979 ... heay they deffinitly didn't ruin the economy

[@SoloPerICommenti]

​@@pouya5625well, they've been on an embargo since then

[@Apocrypha303]

Whaaaaaa

[@poi2lkj3mnb]

Whole episode is nothing but blowing smoke.

[@biosphere7762]

متابع

[@BarbraBond]

is that what we say Dan, "Make the Hay." lmao

[@omidiranpanah]

❤❤❤💯💯💯✌✌✌

[@marsoz_]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

[@billyelliot4141]

1:52 you forgot the coup numpty

[@JJ-ze4cs]

When will we get a real episode again?

[@Maverick19959]

19:00 since when coups go from top to bottom? Shah assigned mosaddegh and he took him out. Mosaddegh is the sweetheart of all the Islamists and he wanted to exactly to the same thing Khomeini did to Iran. God bless Shah for taking the power out of his evil hands.

[@DudeRevolution]

Must he start every sentence with 'you know...' No, we don't know. That's why we are listening.