EP16 Powers Thrones and Dan Jones

Historian Dan Jones’ specialty is the Middle Ages. Dan Carlin adores the Middle Ages. Normans anyone?
1. Powers and Thrones: A New History of the Middle Ages by Dan Jones 2. The Templars: The Rise and Spectacular Fall of God's Holy Warriors by Dan Jones 3. The Wars of the Roses: The Fall of the Plantagenets and the Rise of the Tudors by Dan Jones 4. The Plantagenets: The Warrior Kings and Queens Who Made England by Dan Jones 5. Crusaders: The Epic History of the Wars for the Holy Lands by Dan Jones

[@Caesar-ww3yp]

I was going through Dan carlin withdrawal symptoms. Was just listening to Wrath of the Khans again!

[@aarinlangan2148]

I listen to the wrath at least once a month

[@Caesar-ww3yp]

@@aarinlangan2148 lol. I thinks it's the best one. Would love a longer version though

[@Baseballnfj]

Symptoms include muttering the phrase "you know I'm interested in the extremes of human experience" again.... and again.... and again...

[@hereforthecommentsection9451]

I just ran through death throes of the republic, wrath of Kahn’s and ghost of OS front. …. I need MORE!!!

[@Caesar-ww3yp]

@@Baseballnfj absolutely, that Dan phrase perfectly sums up my interest in history and human experiences of the past! Lol

[@harroldthered7050]

In my opinion Dan Carlin is this generation’s best story teller, dare I say, in the world. It’s not just the content but how it’s presented on his platform. I will forever be a huge fan of his work and future work. Thank you for the blood sweat and tears you put into all of these.

[@cowboyhank456]

I cannot agree more; easily one of my best discoveries in the past 5 years. I keep telling people but unfortunately few ever end up checking this out, a massive shame in my opinion. Learning about history puts everything into context, and I believe has many benefits for anyone.

[@Ciscoho]

Fantastic ! Always feels like Christmas morning to discover Dan has released a new show. Just the thing needed to break up the monotony of a cold, rainy fall day.

[@_Nomadstoner_103]

As a history lover , I can’t overstate the value these podcasts bring me, Thanks again Dan your awesome 😎

[@BurtTurbo]

His awesome?

[@paladro]

@@BurtTurbo 'christopher' bot boy

[@PrimeMatt]

Such an amazing story teller! I'm 45 and this is the first time I've ever taken anytime to listen to history based work 👌🏼

[@markb8468]

If u enjoyed this..... Mr Carlin has a huge amount of material of unsurpassed quality. I'm especially fond of Blueprint for Armageddon.

[@CL-we8tn]

I'm so happy you finally found someone you like.

[@CL-we8tn]

@@markb8468 I'm totally biased when it comes to WW1, nobody else's version will do. Dan mentions everything!!

[@corneliuscapitalinus845]

Colleen The Great War channel on Yt covers the war "in real time" a century on, aswell as presently covering all thepost war fallout - imperial ears, local wars, regional and international politics, everything.

[@markb8468]

@@corneliuscapitalinus845 that was a great series 👍

[@1armstrong607]

I might have gone and bought all of this beautiful man’s books. Excellent writing

[@Ross182AvA]

Can’t get enough of each and every episode you release, Dan. Thank you!

[@duncanwalter3613]

Really enjoyed the part on the Islamic Conquests. As someone who did the Late Antiquity Near East for my dissertation I noticed the same thing Dan Jones said that western and Islamic scholarship have little cross over especially in that period and the ensuing Medieval Period. One of my favourite historians, even though little of his work is in English is Ibn Khaldun's Muqqadima, which is available in English thankfully. Overall another great podcast

[@ChrisGBaker]

Thank you Dan. A superb conversation made possible by two lifetimes of research.

[@TheToma305]

..."You know you've made it when you got a bit of garnet..." Priceless

[@dsr521]

Always nice to see a Carlin video pop up. Thanks man

[@jon-umber]

Whoa, two of my favorite history nerds on one show! Thanks Dan.

[@user-rd8id1xk3t]

Dan Jones is a force on nature. So compelling in his conversation. He is at the pinnacle of his field. Can't say enough about his research. Fantastic!

[@bsmithhammer]

This has been a fine month to be a HH fan. Thank you, Dan, for all the hard work you continue to do.

[@sparkyfister]

Just pre-ordered this book. If it's half as interesting as this conversation, it's a steal.

[@CL-we8tn]

You can also gets Dan Carlin's books, I'm re reading Armageddon is always near.

[@BTobiasJ]

Was a delight to hear two history nerds nerd-out together

[@dshepherd107]

I was surprised & delighted to see this HH Addendum released. Ty!!

[@method0123]

Thank you, Dan. To all who love HCH: Check out the Martyr Made podcast with Daryl Cooper. You can come back and thank me here. 😁👍

[@kim-jong-poon]

YES! Martyr made rules!

[@kevinjack5184]

I'm listening to Unraveling right now. Then I'll hit Martyr Made

[@CrrrashnnBurrrn]

I love Graham Hancock and Dan this is a dream come true. 🤘🏻

[@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors]

Brilliant! Thank you for the fantastic interview and discussion!

[@OhWaker]

Man, I wish Dan let Dan continue praising Dan at the end. It's probably the one chance he had to publicly let people know how much good he felt he gave to the world with his podcasts. That was a missed opportunity, imo. Hopefully he got to hear it in person at least.

[@graywofel3755]

Hello Oh Waker

[@MrTaxiRob]

I think we can acknowledge historical context AND modern context when discussing the "great men" of history. Someone could easily be acknowledged as progressive for their time while still being CLEARLY racist, for example. American populists who supported the "working man" (who was most definitely defined as a white man specifically) are a recent example relevant to today's discussion of race relations, the legal basis of CRT, etc. So while they might have indeed added to the historical arc toward liberty, they still reserved their own ideas of progress for their own kind. I think we should just recognize that heroes are temporary, personality cults are garbage, and anyone who gargles their balls might have prejudices of their own that they may or may not be acknowledging. My favorite podcasters Dan Carlin and Mike Duncan both manage to present events with enough disclaimers about the individuals involved to give the kind of cold reading of history that everyone needs without taking away from the excitement of the events themselves.

[@plmng7294]

I haven't had a dose of Dan Carlin in about a year (was waiting for the full assembly of the latest HH), so I forgot how amazing he is. This particular one was outstanding! In an hour and a half I got 5! new subjects from history that I hadn't thought about either in a while or at all. Here it goes another dive in the rabbit holes :D Can't wait!

[@canadiancrypto5694]

Will now go check out DJ and his work. Just getting rolling as far as HH channel and wow absolutely enthralling, cant get enough of these podcasts DC!! I wish more people would actually learn about the history of our world and not stop time in whatever year they choose so they can point their fingers and shake their heads. Thank you for clarity, knowledge, and a basic understanding of who/where we come from!

[@Suugma]

Its a great Friday.

[@edwinbarnes5661]

Yes. Even the Virginian's now will have a Governor that doesn't promote false and dividing history.

[@josefadams647]

Dan Carlin is the Michael Jordan of podcasts. Love this guy. He made me fall in love w history again and because of WW2 stuff I came across in my research on Laurence Rees. This guy is amazing writing about WW2. His book on Hitler and Stalin that came out in Oct 2020 is so awesome. Thanks Dan.

[@THEgenART]

More main courses! And more of these! You know that, but we love you Dan

[@ST7GOLDTRIDENT]

Can't wait, will listen as soon as I can 👍

[@dougmphilly]

golden age of historical story telling.

[@N1ckel]

Always love a chance to nerd out about Bohemond of Taranto and his nephew Tancred. If you ever study the first crusade you know that these are two amazing figures.

[@borna1231]

"Now the man was such as, to put it briefly, had never before been seen in the land of the Romans, be he either of the barbarians or of the Greeks (for he was a marvel for the eyes to behold, and his reputation was terrifying). Let me describe the barbarian's appearance more particularly - he was so tall in stature that he overtopped the tallest by nearly one cubit, narrow in the waist and loins, with broad shoulders and a deep chest and powerful arms. And in the whole build of the body he was neither too slender nor overweighted with flesh, but perfectly proportioned and, one might say, built in conformity with the canon of Polycleitus... His skin all over his body was very white, and in his face the white was tempered with red. His hair was yellowish, but did not hang down to his waist like that of the other barbarians; for the man was not inordinately vain of his hair, but had it cut short to the ears. Whether his beard was reddish, or any other colour I cannot say, for the razor had passed over it very closely and left a surface smoother than chalk... His blue eyes indicated both a high spirit and dignity; and his nose and nostrils breathed in the air freely; his chest corresponded to his nostrils and by his nostrils...the breadth of his chest. For by his nostrils nature had given free passage for the high spirit which bubbled up from his heart. A certain charm hung about this man but was partly marred by a general air of the horrible... He was so made in mind and body that both courage and passion reared their crests within him and both inclined to war. His wit was manifold and crafty and able to find a way of escape in every emergency. In conversation he was well informed, and the answers he gave were quite irrefutable. This man who was of such a size and such a character was inferior to the Emperor alone in fortune and eloquence and in other gifts of nature." "The Alexiad" Now THAT´S a description of a knight straight out of a fairy tale! The stuff that legends are made of. The fact that we have this AMAZING description plus his biography just brings Bohemond to life in a way that few people of his times do. Also, let´s keep in mind that Anna was about 16 when she saw him, soooo... you know, just sayin´ XD.

[@MrTaxiRob]

@@borna1231 He was clearly Annunaki

[@NafedalbiFilms]

Hmm, just noticed that the Hardcore History logo looks really nice.

[@joearnold6881]

I confused Dan Jones with Dan Brown and got wicked nervous about the path this podcast might be going down, 😂

[@upstandingkam]

Same

[@ATLmodK]

Reading the book. Thank you for steering me to it. What an incredible feat, including the history of Islam. Dan Jones has done an incredible job on the research.

[@calebmathis1952]

Did anyone else notice that Dan jones referred to our guy Dan Carlin as a historian around the 1:08:49 mark?!! I know Dan is modest and isn’t a historian, but what a fantastic compliment to get! Love it!

[@tylerh7647]

You're the man Dan!

[@chrislee3601]

2 podcast episodes in 2 weeks? Let's freaking gooooo

[@Rkitt8]

Dan you’re the best!

[@tylerh7647]

Right?!??

[@cholakicha]

I love Dan Carlin`s podcast series, approach, analogies, observations, humor, sensitivity, occasional darkness, voice, and enthusiasm. But the audio of those telephone interviews could surely get more balanced. I crank up the volume so I can hear the guest. Then Dan`s yall of exaltation blows off my brain.

[@Daniel-ds4oq]

Great interview, excited to read this guy's book

[@HanzArtBodybuilding]

Thanks for the new video Dan ! 🙏😁

[@graywofel3755]

Hello Hanz

[@solidtank7957]

Thank you so much.

[@jordanclothier6103]

Dan i love the podcast's and this conversation got me thinking, i would love to hear a multipart telling of the reign of Justinian and Belisarius's conquest's from you! hell ive even got the title ''the last throw of the die''.

[@saucenflow]

didnt think id like this but its great appresh dan < 3 ended up wanting more

[@Jevaughn]

Speaking of marketing, why isn't the Amazon affiliate link for Powers and Thrones in the description here Dan? Please let us give you money bro, lol.

[@Pontusky]

This was fantastic, i would love the hear an episode like this with you and historian Arthur Herman!

[@williaminnes1563]

Love you Dr. CARLIN

[@milo8425]

What a pleasant surprise

[@maqinachica]

Great!!

[@Swimkid1]

I’m new to this channel and feel it’s a very good and informative channel thanks.

[@keith7282]

Dan is the man

[@TheToma305]

Mr. Carlin, when you asked Mr. Jones "Who are the Franks?", I was a little perplexed (not knowing Mr. Jones background). What a huge/vague/specific topic. I pictured you sitting back smiling in anticipation after asking. Good stuff bro!

[@scott2452]

Interestingly the Thai word “Farang” also derives from “Franks”

[@CL-we8tn]

It is not inconceivable that the Frank's traded east to Asia. More likely took slaves and I'm sure the Mongols and Persians did too, the Arabs had whole categories of slaves. I think it was probably traders who traded slaves who came into contact with both groups. The proto Thais may not have dealed directly with the Frank's but their traders could most certainly speak a bit of both languages for this word to travel so far. Thank you, very interesting.

[@urnzd]

Excellent episode 👌

[@tacituskillgore1489]

Been a minute since I listened to some Dan Carlin.

[@alexbrint3798]

Been going thru "the plantagenets" by DJ on audiobook. Truly awesome

[@Deridus]

I just got done with Supernova 6 just to find this. Yay!

[@Silious950]

Double double!! Let’s goooooo

[@epyjacek]

I'm buying that book on the very hour of its publishing.

[@dustyfairview9062]

Are you kidding me Dan? Two uploads? What did I do that was so special? THANKS DAN!!!!!!!

[@dougmphilly]

i have a copy of barbara tuchman's "A Distant Mirror" and its everything that the two dans say it was. what i really loved was the economic upheavals and how it challenged the old nobility.

[@CL-we8tn]

Thank you Dan, I guess we will see you in 3 months time. You promised to drop one soon and you did and it was well worth it as always.

[@kalsizzle]

I really enjoyed this

[@druncle1977]

Never have a clicked a video so fast!

[@shanosantwanos3908]

Except gay porn

[@richardl9242]

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!

[@masterofnone8400]

Dan jones is awesome, read most of his books

[@SVDassassin]

OH MY GOD TY DAN!

[@Anubis-hm7ro]

Wonderful

[@docthunder1413]

Never thought I’d hear Dan Carlin interview David Icke.

[@Supergforce777]

Dan Carlin is a gift from the cosmos

[@rossbarfuss6934]

This is the standard the U.S. education system needs it's foundation based upon.

[@wulfrache]

Yes Dan Carlin should be tought in k-12

[@graywofel3755]

Hello Rose Barfuss

[@brandonblackfyre5783]

*I feel we, viewers, are selfish when it comes to Dan Carlin and the content he make because we are always fiending for more from him, no matter what the topic or show is about... Sometimes, we the fans of someone we love, can be very selfish... especially when it comes too expecting them to always be pumping out content for us to consume, I like to say that we live in a "Microwave Era" where our attention spans are a lot shorter than they were in the past, we get content and consume it so fast that we really do not even savor it...we swallow it whole and ask for more right away, even though the Chef who cooked it worked for days on the meal... I always pray that we can get more of Dan Carlin and his Hardcore History episodes, along with other podcast where he is a guest on, especially Lex Fridman's podcast... the Lex and Dan episode on Lex's podcast was an amazing episode that left me slobbering for more even though I savoured & chewed on it for a long time... I know Dan is probably extremely busy living his best life but I'm definitely saying some prayers for Dan to drop some new episodes or podcast... I will admit that sometimes I end up just looking at someones channel on KZbin and not actually knowing if they have other content elsewhere... Does anyone know if this is the case with Dan's content? Is there a podcast or other show I am missing on his website or elsewhere? Would love to absolutely demolish & consume more content from Dan.*

[@davidmacminn8206]

You wondered why the Vikings/ Normans were so bad ass. They were initially fish eaters in part and they were at least 6" taller than the rest, either due to diet or genetics. Long ago at a NY museum I picked up an original Viking sword and surprised that it was 10-12 pounds. I'm 6'2 and 200 pounds and would have difficulty swinging a 10 pound sledge with gusto... As you well know the Vikings went east into Russia before they went west and founded Novogod and became the original Rus when breeding with Slavs. They also believed in Valhalla and got to sit at the big table if you died in battle.

[@craigcrawford6749]

I'm 6' 190 pounds and deadlift 400. I"d have no trouble with a 10 pound anything. Its all relative man. These dudes weren't keyboard warriors.

[@starkparker16]

Heck yeah

[@donquique1]

Omg my two historians together.

[@charles-antoinemassad10]

why does this show not have 10M subs?!!

[@tylerjerabek5204]

He gets a lot of his listeners on the regular podcast apps

[@collinmc90]

Very interesting the middle ages in one of those sections of history I've had trouble finding interesting or accessible. This is a great kind of.. .whos who in a way lol

[@PhantomGreyfire]

*appreciation

[@TroyJamesMonger]

I get 2 in a week?! I feel spoiled ♥

[@wulfrache]

Been listening to War of Roses audiobook last few days. If your here you will probably like it.

[@cosmicmuffet1053]

1:05:00 inadvertently making a solid argument for 'it was overblown'

[@susano7135]

Woahhhh there Dan, it's only been a week since the last Addendum! Any faster and you would've created a sonic boom which would've shattered every window in Oregon!

[@3brenm]

Got this book for 99p on kindle. Insane value...

[@Ben-tn1zp]

i love hearing about the Normans my last name originates from a norman knight in William the conquers army

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

Dan (Carlin) asked an interesting question about why medieval imagery depicted classical and biblical scenes in contemporary dress and settings and I felt Dan (Jones) answer that it was allegorical was unsatisfactory, he missed a good chance to explain the medieval mindset formed by their worldview and pre Copernican cosmology. The medieval world was an extremely static one, their view of time was Aristotelian (the official church view) the earth literally did not move and was just a stage to play out gods divine plan, before banking and finance there was little social mobility or chance for betterment- If you were the son of a ploughman that is what you would be like your father and his father before him, and before printing and indeed mass literacy knowledge was jealously guarded and interpreted by the church. The idea of progress is an enlightenment or at most Renaissance concept so they literally believed that the world had changed little since classical times and would change little till the day of judgement,for them the biblical stories were literally true and may as well have been yesterday and so were very real. Yes they were creatures just like us with the same needs and desires but some of their motivations may seem incomprehensible because of their world view, he acknowledges that Churchill was "old fashioned" so how much more were the people of the middle ages?

[@jamescox8385]

Yes, interesting point. I doubt concepts of technology and archaeology existed in the 14thC. The past, for most people, would have been like a dark moonless night. You could hear the voices, but see almost nothing. It would not, at that time, have made any sense to paint ancient personages wearing unfamiliar garb. And any visual representation of ancient fashion (were the artist or patron even able to conceive of such an idea) other than of togas would have been arbitrary.

[@MixxxedFruuts]

Yesssssss

[@graywofel3755]

Hello Garbrielle

[@kimbast3977]

Thank you

[@graywofel3755]

Hello Kim Bast

[@jamescox8385]

I tried to google a book mentioned in the podcast and discovered an error on Dan Jones' part. The Crusades Through Arab Eyes is a historical essay by Lebanese author Amin Maalouf. He credited it as a book by Paul Cobb.

[@jamescox8385]

He was probably referring to The Race for Paradise by Paul M Cobb.

[@WebbiestZeus]

The history goat

[@size130]

ITS HAPPENING GUYS ITS HAPPENING AGAIN

[@anthonysimon4991]

For some reason my Tribe, the Lombards, always gets a passing mention even though Michelangelo Simoni and Da Vinci were Lombards.

[@Eaglefriend19]

History is ALWAYS rewritten and changed, only few people have acces to real history archives

[@justsmashing4628]

Oh goody 😊

[@scrotusmaximus3043]

Yesssss

[@brocktonma.1816]

The fact that Dan gets so many views gives me hope in this questionable world.

[@hereforthecommentsection9451]

Letsssss Fuckinggggggg Goooooooooo

[@creatingwondersent]

Dans voice and dialect reminds me of Graham Hancock. :)

[@geoffbeadles]

Yay

[@gregliles6387]

I'm here. Am I too early?

[@sanroqueboy6012]

If only you put a comma on this video's title, I'm convinced this would have had better view count..

[@klausgartenstiel4586]

54:12 "heyho! we're the francs! hello, and goodbye!" i gotta admit, during this whole episode, i constantly thought of the "history of the world" boardgame. 🙄