EPA Cracking Down On Defeat Devices In Semi Trucks Today, Beware Truck Drivers & Truck Shops

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[@youngblood6606]

Hey brother can you please help me find a company that would give my brother a chance he just got his cdl but he has speed tickets

[@JasonVoorhees997]

Honestly d e f diesel particulate filter and emission regulation systems or emission something systems should be outright banned and taken off trucks for now on cuz they are constantly they constantly break down they constantly melt engines from the inside out and they cost trucks to lose power diesel exhaust fluid especially if you run out it can cause your your engine to list lose power it can cause your engine to melt from the inside and it's so expensive to fill and it don't even clean the diesel exhaust at all so honestly yeah I think DS systems are basically piece of s*** systems

[@Subjectiveopinion.]

Ay mother trucker.. 😁 my question is will you go to comfrey and show them the feedback about this specific topic? and record/ document the responses I’m curious..

[@3089280288]

Dude, stop saying semi truck.

[@philb4049]

I don't think you're completely accurate in this video. The EPA is going after more than just trucks and truckers. They are also targeting anybody who runs gas cars like race cars for deleting any type of emissions controls from their vehicles. The software may be easy to detect and/or find shops that are using it but any kind of emissions delete whether it be cars trucks or big rigs is being targeted by the EPA.

[@timtucker9189]

The whole point of this is to put the independent and small business out of commission. Just like they have done to small stores and restaurants

[@ROLLIN-DUB]

Oh no not the government……..let them tell it (especially these fuckerz running for office) they care about small businesses. That’s the understatement of the year🤦‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@porkrind3512]

The emissions trucks require a different driving style.. long ago as a soldier a base commander set restrictions on us for rolling coal off a light. Experimenting we found it was doable somewhat. We hauled heavy ammo. We learned that by lighter foot feed the truck accelerated better and no or minimum smoke. Driving emissions trucks I switched back to this style and reduced trouble with it.

[@paulstrehlow5598]

Let’s bring the elephant out into the room about how much of a double standard this emission crap is. All military vehicles have been exempt, why is that? Because they are reliable? Hell no we don’t want our military breaking down in battle or training. What about the awful gasses that come out the tailpipe when DEF is being burned during a regen. Also the added waste of plastic DEF jugs littering our landfills. I will leave this now.

[@tomwinkle5536]

Exactly! Just like they put independent gas stations out of biz in the 70's!

[@jeebus6263]

Cash Grab,

[@Briandkd]

Put the dpf on all the government owned vehicles and watch what happens. Could you imagine a tank in the middle of a battle field have to stop for a regen

[@twanskeycolvin3893]

😂😂😂

[@MrBigR928]

🤣...nice👍🏿

[@jay34183]

I notice that a couple ambulances abs fire trucks still roll coal

[@FN_FAL_4_ever]

That’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are

[@philipdyar9690]

Hey yall I m calling time out I need to do a burn off shoot that way for 45min .Hey ref the other side is cheating they don't have to stop.There tanks were built in China.Well yea I know ours were to but then they sent them to us and we Americanized them and screwed um up.But there still cheating.

[@sstevocamaro]

If the government want these emission systems on the trucks it should be a lifetime warranty included on the parts.. PERIOD! They would do this if they REALLY cared!

[@crazyawesomedennis9859]

I agree with you 100%

[@rickymassey9341]

True but the down time will cost u $$$ 💵

[@patklemmensen1694]

but the government(s) don't manufacture the equipment - how can they warranty something they don't produce? the fact that the DEF/DPF setups DON'T come with a long-term warranty should be a red flag, it's like saying "we don't have a lot of faith in this product, so we refuse to guarantee it for any length of time."

[@vancewhitaker1439]

Right!!! But those Fucks will never do that!!!!

[@sstevocamaro]

@@patklemmensen1694 They can find a way. They can give rebates to the dealerships or manufacturers or whatever. If they REALLY CARED they would do it!

[@ronnieam33]

The best air quality I have EVER seen in Los Angles was at the beginning of Covid when everyone was locked down and not driving other than the Truckers and the air was a clear as I have seen it in my 65 years living in So Cal so that tells you the real issues for the EPA is all of the polluting cars out on the road and not the trucks that were still rolling all day every day!!

[@petersisco2499]

I remember that too . Ironically the EPA won't allow new emission systems in the U.S on cars . Basically all the imports are marked up because they have to be retro fitted with outdated inefficient emissions plagued with issues . This is why car companies can't import some models . The newer engines can't run with our antiquated emissions . What's worst is the emission system most of the world uses is more fuel efficient, always more engine power , is cleaner and has much less breakdown issues . For example you can take a BMW in England and the identical model in US and the English version has a lot more horse power , greatly increased fuel milage ( usually 10 to 15 mpg better ) , less actual emissions and less break downs . Part of it is we don't use REAL gas but the emissions systems aren't as bad anymore as people think ... its just not legal here in U.S . It's like that little chip on your credit card . Third world countries with no running water and barely any electricity had the chip for nearly 20 years before we , the so called most advanced country in the world , had it . What's worst is the system that works flawlessly in 3rd world countries is full of bugs here . You can go to war torn Afghanistan and that chip works flawlessly at lightning speed . Here you have to fight with the system for minutes then usually just use the outdated strip . Worst this is the governments wish as well LOL

[@grayg9838]

It was nice to drive across L.A. and not have to stop ! But ...... It's back to usual !

[@Zach________]

Dpf trucks clean the air in valley cities that are prone to smog like la

[@BM-if9zn]

The more nonsense I see the more I keep loving old trucks. Truckers, stay safe🙏

[@davidgibson3656]

As a diesel technician with 35 years of on and off road diesel engine experience I have to say that beginning with the implementation of EGR on diesel engines was the beginning of the end. I have engine certifications to 2015 in Cummins, Cat and International. Although I no longer actively work in the field I can tell you there is nothing good about these emissions standards the EPA has set for the diesel engine industry. I have spent many hours troubleshooting and replacing emissions parts and engine hard parts because of these standards.

[@JuanLopez-jk9mu]

Not to mention the baked the code in for it to disable the truck, so you can't even make it home when it goes down. I remember running N-60s fully BLOWN and bringing them back home to repair... Now any of the trucks, 2 sensors and they are moving at 5mph.

[@gooffy120]

Yep, because a non-emissions truck has never broke down. I had an 03' Columbia with a Cat. C15. The worst truck I ever owned. Always in the shop, top end at 285,000. I'm on my 3rd Volvo since then way fewer problems then the Cat. Do emission truck have problems? No doubt, but non-emmission truck weren't any better and you know it.

[@johnhelbig4115]

@@nowadd0 what's in the regen smoke???

[@johnhelbig4115]

@@gooffy120 NO.... it's YOU!

[@gooffy120]

@@johnhelbig4115 I agree, I don't have privlems with emission trucks because I'm a better driver then you are.

[@chuckmiskel6553]

Im a diesel mechanic in a small shop. We see problems daily with def and dpf systems. The repair cost is ridiculous. I personally didnt see anything wrong with the older trucks. They were dependable and got the job done. Sometimes its better to leave well enough alone. Good luck and be safe

[@mzee5533]

I’m in the mine we’ve some few new Caterpillar Excavators with the DEF system those machines are endless money pits they’re not productive at all. Luckily they’re just auxiliary machines.

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@mzee5533 the john deeres with the nissan engines are money pits too esp. when the operators shut them down during a regen event.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

joke abc agencies with taxation without representation..

[@Vmaxfodder]

I was an DPF specialist. When they go out? They're worse than just a nice straight pipe! You are right! It's an regulation/ ticket trap

[@truckerron]

ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, DUDE!!

[@jeffhartson9203]

Keep the old trucks alive. Don't go out and buy a new one.

[@18spd4Life]

Dpf was the only thing that kept my truck going to the shop and yet wasn’t covered under a new truck warranty and had to wait days for parts every single time so as far as I’m concerned the epa can stretch their lips over my shiny 7” stacks and start sucking

[@waltwenzel9549]

if you could make your point without some lousy juvenile sexual references, people might take you more seriously.

[@18spd4Life]

@@waltwenzel9549 and you assume I’m going to you seriously because?

[@larrieausman1973]

@@18spd4Life It gave me a chuckle, I don’t take things too seriously though 😃

[@donnebes9421]

Excellent comment, I think that goes for any government agency

[@Nikowalker007]

Underrated comment, man 😂😂😂 👍🏻

[@edwinramirez5850]

We need to take this to court and explain and prove with paperwork the issues we are having on this trucks and perhaps that could be the only way to fix this scam but everyone needs to get involved

[@waynetaylor420]

"My truck, my choice"

[@AlexOTRvlogs]

👍

[@TheMajictech]

And pretty soon your fine, I don’t agree with the restrictions by any means. But in a practical analysis mindset that’s where they are heading Wayne. The neosocialist environmental wack jobs in power now will have their way. Come hell or high water. The bigger concern to me is what’s going on in California right now with the anti subcontractor law. If that spreads everybody will have to have their own authority to even make a living.

[@waynetaylor420]

@@TheMajictech Sad but true.

[@jeffjustus4969]

Just keep believing that.

[@TravisKinley]

Lol! Good one!

[@arizonadon5644]

E-Logs were the end for me!..... After 38 years of managing my own travel time and a couple under electronic management, I'M DONE!.......The demise of CB radios and the consolidation/disappearance of the deluxe travel centers and inexpensive buffets have taken all the fun out of it!.....What once was a blue-collar cowboy kind of brotherhood has become a multicultural cloisterf- of foreigners with no manners or shame ... People that pee all over toilet seats or leave their pee bottles roadside.... It won't be long before nobody wants these jobs!...

[@lt1nut]

That day is here, has been for a while. How long does it take to get to the "pretty good living" part of the "it's a pretty good living but ain't no life" saying nowadays?

[@kelvintorrence5994]

Preach I been out here for 26years and like a ohio trooper told me.when they had brown cruisers. It gets worst out here every year and that was his last year when he told me.

[@JASONHJEFFERSON]

Elog is ok if paid by the hour

[@kabbymaster]

Or the ones that leave s*** stains on the toilet, walls, and door handles.

[@Arizona_rider]

I miss the buffets. Everytime I get on the cb someone answers in an accent. Spanish or something else. You ask a question at the shippers and you get no answer

[@clodbusted1776]

I was gonna buy a new 389 to upgrade my old Mack superliner but decided to buy and build a 359 long hood because I’ve heard about all of the emissions problems. Definitely glad I went with an older truck it’s way cooler and more reliable for a lot less money. Love your vids! Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@netexwildlife5149]

Can agree I roll in a 2011 389 Cummins with the 18 speed. Less than 83k on the motor with 118,000 engine ours (old Frac sand truck) and I am CONSTANTLY having issues with the damn DEF/DPF this damn thing never regens. I always have to force it by cranking up the cruise at idle and even then it’s still kicking itself in the balls. Shits fucking annoying. Almost time for a delete. IDGAF I’m oversized load so we don’t typically get fucked with. And we stay out of commie California 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Obamaistoast2012]

I'm still running a 1984 international eagle with a 1977 cummins 290 with a 13 speed trans, with no plans on upgrading anytime soon.

[@envisionCamusa]

Smart man 👍

[@lees3117]

Small engine too

[@Obamaistoast2012]

@@lees3117 It dose the job with a 13 speed

[@lees3117]

@@Obamaistoast2012 ok thx for the knowledge. Pulling 80000 is no problem for that set up? My first truck had a 310 cat 9spd Trans and hauling heavy up hills was bummer

[@chuckc6256]

Nice:)

[@apolloniaaskew9487]

I am NOT a trucker, but the emissions systems on semis is a disgrace. Caterpillar saw the writing on the wall and quit supplying truck manufacturers with engines. It's sad when new rigs have to go back to the shop within a week due to a code in the engine. That's why pre emission trucks command a high price and emission trucks are for mega carriers, not Mom and Pop/ small operators.

[@mattmoschkau84]

Caterpillar got out of the truck industry because of a deal between Ford, International and GM. They walked away with Progress Rail and sent the truck engines to international. Everyone was happy watching a few billion move around and CAT got back to doing what they do best, machinery!

[@1611-DaleW]

@@mattmoschkau84 They didn't do to bad with late E model and early C 15s

[@mattmoschkau84]

@@1611-DaleW They weren’t making bad engines. But GM and International waved billions in their face to get out of trucks and they did. It was always a money thing, emissions had very little to do with it. And CAT knew long term the manufactures wouldn’t let them compete, so it was best to leave! The only reason Cummins is still around is because they make most of the emission parts for everyone else. If that changes, you can expect Cummins to exit the truck market too.

[@1611-DaleW]

@@mattmoschkau84 sounds legit.

[@jonathanrabbitt]

If I were buying a new truck, I'd ask them to include a spare set of all the after-treatment sensors that they commonly replace. Keep them with you in the truck and restock them when they get fitted. The other thing to do is to get hold of a OBD2 reader so you can troubleshoot as soon as the check engine light comes on. Delaying repairs can only make it worse. In the grand scheme of things (price of a truck and cost of downtime), the cost of this sort of preparedness is minimal. Knowing how it all works means you can say "no thanks" when service technicians/shop managers try selling the blinker fluid.

[@darylbrantley5226]

Ok Jonathan, and what kinda truck are you talking about? Definitely not a big OTR truck.

[@lewbaxter243]

That’s why I drive a ‘97 Freightliner Classic, 60 series Detroit 12.7L with a Super 10 transmission. NO DPF, NO DEF and NO ELOG!!! Old Trucks are reliable and dependable if you maintain ‘em… no they don’t have all the bells and whistles that the newer trucks have. But, have you ever tried to deposit bells and whistles at the Deposit Guaranty?

[@mauricewhaley1322]

I have a 98 9200i international im on the same page with you

[@merritttrucker]

'02 379 with a 6NZ

[@justnosa3481]

I like the super 10 transmission. I learned how to drive with one of those. Haven't had the pleasure of driving a super 10 in years. Is it easy to get a shop to work on that tranny these days?

[@Food4Thought66]

Hey, I was looking into buying a pre 2000 truck for running flatbed, how do most shippers treat Owner Operators with no ELD??

[@redkrawler]

In my opinion I really like the E-Log. Thanks for understanding. Ha

[@pdmustgtd1013]

What do think was going to happen never thought EPA was going to do nothing. Everyone one forums, social media and youtube bragging I deleted my truck WOW. You just told the WORLD what you did giving proof to EPA bravo. If people just kept their mouth shut it would have stayed under the radar

[@ddavis186]

Right... Every body bragging and running there mouths... That's the real problem....

[@pdmustgtd1013]

@@ddavis186 Exactly and it's all about attention see what I did. But get attention from Govt that can go after you

[@georgegeorgepht]

They can’t charge you for rebuilding your old semi truck. I’ll keep rebuilding my 05 truck with no junk on it.

[@notchfox6086]

Well said 👏 👌

[@ItalianStallion1415]

Your truck doesn't have EGR?

[@connershepherd998]

I got a 1995 with a cat 3406 e got to keep that old iron running, at the way this is going we’re gonna be the last standing until electric trucks wipe us out For me the end will be when I can’t afford or find fuel. Or maybe even parts. But until then I’ll pound them cylinders with my fist if I have to.

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@connershepherd998 right out of the movie Mad Max!! those electric trucks are still 20 years out, on anything over over a hundred miles!

[@panchovillaz8004]

Nices. 👍✊ me 2006 peterbilt 386 c15 😍😍👍

[@theboringchannel1944]

I bought a 2014 Volvo a few months back, spent almost $4000 in winters to repair the stupid DPF system in the hope that that was it but....it went into derate and I had to drive 1500 miles with unplugged speed sensor to get to the shop where all I want is get this sh*t "defeated". I know I'm very close to being broke. I can't afford to keep spending my hard earned money to fix this sh***y system.

[@rafaelcadena44]

As a O.O, I know all about the "emissions" ordeal. I don't ever take my rig to the stealer. I'm a firm believer, if you can read, comprehend what it is your willing to learn then it's definitely able to get done. Any how I got tired of spending money in my 1-box, my motor is solid but I didn't want to delete my truck because of numerous reasons, epa being one. I did some web searching and found this guy that lives literally 30 min from me in Florida. He's able to change the parameters in the ACM. Everything still functions as it should and consumes def still. Never have I had a issue with my truck ever since. Been about 1.5yrs. Solid!!! I can provide his contact info just not in a public platform.

[@jamieg.3829]

How can I get in contact with you?

[@rafaelcadena44]

@@jamieg.3829 if you have a cascadia he can do it. I forgot to mention that, sorry. He may be able to do cummins, not a 100% though to be honest. But all dd series he can do. Any how I have fb messenger, IG, Signal, Snapchat. Let me know what Social media platform you have and either you can shoot me your handle (user ID) or I can shoot you mine. Let me know...

[@victorbernier4765]

When I'm ready to be o/o

[@Rico77777]

@@rafaelcadena44is this guy still around?

[@rafaelcadena44]

@@Rico77777 yes he is

[@williamthigpen4480]

If the EPA make emissions mandatory they should supply all the repair parts for free. If a dealership demands you run only their products for warranty then they have to provide them for free.

[@aredeemable1]

.............and that is because if this system NOT BEEN PERFECTED AT THIS POINT...............................

[@SuperBigblue19]

The whole OTR scene had me go local 3yrs ago & I'm glad I did. My health is so much better & I don't have 90% of the hassles of driving OTR. My 2019PacLease 579 runs 20hrs a day 2 drivers on weekdays & has 330k miles . I runs heavyhaul & have had no issues other then a cracked heater hose I don't know if it's true, but I was told big engine & light loads will give you more issues.

[@DanielGarcia-zz9eg]

Bad. cost me over 30k in repairs of owning my rig in 3 years. Thats just DEF and DPF alone. No engine or transmission problems at all . Just regular maintenance I could of had extra 30k in my pocket plus the loads I missed . Probably looking at a 70k loss all because of DEF

[@joeysok2366]

Same here 30k still not fix until cost another 15k.

[@Jalal19875]

Bro exactly what happened to me!!

[@Barchenhund]

Same thing happened in trucking with fed mandated ABS in the early 80’s. So many problems with the system the feds backed off until ABS manufacturers were able to develop a reliable ABS.

[@danieljones317]

Screw the whole thing. I gave up trucking a few years ago, and I'll never look back. I had enough of the anti-trucker crap, and it's damn well time the truckers need to band together and call a nationwide strike.

[@gavnonadoroge3092]

Daniel Jones, so what is stopping you from striking?

[@0xsergy]

wanting a habitable environment isnt anti trucker. just unfortunate that dpf systems aren't reliable

[@swedesspeedshop2518]

Oxsergy it's not just emissions it's all the red tape and regulations e logs and fines d.o.t constantly hassling you weight limits . Driving time restrictions drug testing the list goes on

[@danielcooper7428]

Good luck. LMFAO

[@danieljones317]

@@gavnonadoroge3092 I'm already on strike. Even better, I quit.

[@spoolyboi9434]

I'm just a company driver but it's always been my understanding that alot of this emissions stuff robs power from trucks. And when they have issues the prices are ridiculous.

[@adriannewman1322]

Yea the systems choke down the engine and they are expensive to maintain

[@danthegreat9790]

My truck has no DEF system love how clean and smooth it runs without it never have any kind of issues when driving long distances my co workers truck have DEF systems installed and they run fuxking shitty feels like I’m stuck on a gear at times

[@michaelwright1602]

Emissions and the ELD killed it for me... And yes, I sorted out the emissions and now know how to maintain this hot EPA mess I bought. Anyhow... I don't even want to get in my truck anymore, 32 years... Just no fun out here anymore, it is worse than a damn job.

[@garybrockmann9125]

I deleted mine and it cost me just shy of $70,000 over a 5 year. Now I'm getting 7 to 8 miles to a gallon truck has never run better def system sucks

[@keithrowell8895]

And you waisted $70thousond.

[@shhhhhhhhhhhhhh....]

70k to do a delete 😱😱 someone robbed you.

[@garybrockmann9125]

not 70 k to do a deleat the def system cost me that much over five years of service

[@shhhhhhhhhhhhhh....]

@@garybrockmann9125 ok

[@Subjectiveopinion.]

I’m 20 thousand in and I’m in my first year in a 15 cascadia I’m still paying on that repair I had to have the filters replaced 4 months in and 6 months in the whole one box went out. Not I have new box and filters as of may and my truck is being choked out again. Like c’mon man!

[@hansalbrite4882]

I'm a mechanic,it's something that breaks when nothing else does,I also been driving 30 plus,I see more trucks broke down on the road than I have ever seen .

[@e.l.9589]

They are cracking down on everything across motorsports.

[@davidhendrickson5674]

The parts shortage was going to put me in the poor house. Could not find nox sensors. Left me stranded. Had to take extreme measures. Now I have issues and no one to turn to. A lot of these shops are owned by people from other countries and their way of thinking is not the same as mine. Honesty comes second in my opinion. There is no one to turn to legally or otherwise to help.

[@dnwlogisticsllc8609]

The dpf, def, erg anything that the epa says the truck needs, it doesn’t need because all it does is fuck up the engine

[@cbmech2563]

Everything that makes a good running diesel is Everything that they seem to hate.

[@royjrglenn7435]

Its ass backwards land lol now you see

[@koollee]

I dont side with them but in case u dont know why, its supposedly to provide cleaner air, less pollution, to slow or stop "global warming" Some say GW is real, some says its a myth. I jus wish they would stop fkn wit us drivers then cryin about it bein a shortage of drivers everytime u turn around.. and f*ck that electric vehicle bullshht threatening our livelyhood. I hope that shht fails until we use up all the oil and cant make diesel

[@blueaura2191]

We had one truck stuck in the dock for three days because of software issues. Was a beautiful delete and the service man (who was an older gear head) couldn't mess with the truck out of liability issues. After a week of sitting on the yard, a shop about 200 miles away took it on, and driver said he was lucky to find him. Was a 2017 freightliner and it made the recycling plant look better for a while

[@adambrackston3471]

I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next decade we see them outlaw old trucks all together and you need 2010+

[@ericmendez5815]

That’s what’s in law already! Then AB5 going National will be the last straw on the camels back!

[@bham5612]

Already a law here in Oregon. Starts in a few years.

[@rodgercottrill3342]

Automobiles to

[@scottbennington2936]

And the American citizen thinks the driver shortage of today is bad. When that day come 2 day Prime shipping will turn to "when it gets there" Prime.

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@bham5612 more info on that please.

[@Masterpresident]

We need a nationwide class action law suit against EPA and all truck manufacturers. They don’t understand the DEF system them selfs. And cost truckers 10’s of thousands in repairs. Owner operators and carriers need to come together and get a petition started to sue EPA and truck manufacturers for 1 trillion dollars or more. Even brand new trucks have DEF issues

[@bumsmodified98xj]

Idle time is the #1 killer for the emissions system on a diesel How many hours a day does your Rig idle? Look it up

[@williamstarklauf6085]

And what about all the emissions the def factory produces and the plastic jugs and cardboard boxes the def comes in filling landfills

[@Subjectiveopinion.]

I see don’t nobody want to acknowledge this question.

[@jamesrice4072]

My 2008 freightliner had to have a parked regen every day or 2. It only went downhill. My 2016 Kenworth broke down on my first trip (643 miles on it). They towed me from Birmingham to Atlanta to fix it. Its a little better today, but not much.

[@jeffkness8415]

I've had nothing but issues with the trucks I had with it. Deleted ran better and got better mileage. A lot less down time with them gone. I got an old cat now though so no problems or worries.

[@danequalls2926]

Facts

[@petersisco2499]

The proper way to run the delete program is two computers . Basically you need someone who knows what they're doing . They run dual wiring through a dummy switch ( fog light or some such marked switch ) . It's easy to hide second computer . So you run your truck on the delete computer which is tuned and shuts down all the junk but when you pull in for any kind of inspection hit the switch and truck runs factory spec . It's not super difficult but the average person really can't do it . Basically it's like taking your vette or demon to track and engaging track mode then engaging street mode to drive home ... but on big trucks .

[@fritz9700]

I wish I know a shop that could do that because I wanna delete this junk

[@kizerbread]

I'm not against clean air but It's my opinion that an O.O. or small business would have a dam hard time surviving with a full emission compliant truck. That engine light is on constantly. Especially in the winter. And right now we all know how easy it is to get truck parts right now!

[@hermanator1001]

My buddy’s 579 has been in the shop for over a month waiting on a def sensor on back order and the dealer doesn’t know when it’ll restock

[@champ0925]

@@hermanator1001 I've heard someone tell me that in person

[@rightnews339]

Not to mention the cost of the part's.

[@crossroads427]

Knock on Wood

[@Nvr-Stop-Strivin]

@@hermanator1001 I had an issue with my 579 as well with the def system well pre COVID and my truck was in the shop for 3 weeks

[@allandson1427]

The Supreme Court said the EPA can't regulate emissions on trucks and I guess on cars so.

[@OhcoChildPlease]

As a diesel mechanic, the EGR system is akin to eating your own shit. I would say 90% of engine jobs I work on are related to the aftertreatment systems (EGR, SCR, DEF). The DPF/DOC is really the only part that is okay.

[@truckingjamaicans5045]

Egr needs a filter to trap the gunk thats going in the engine

[@harryhoudini3656]

I’m curious about the fines. Where did the judicial system come up with the amount of the fines and where does the money go? Also I never imagined driving a truck would mean giving up any of my rights. However, I’m finding we as truckers are quickly giving up our rights on many issues.

[@horsefly1020]

It goes in politician pockets. If everyone refused to pay the fines they would be screwed.

[@jameslowry17]

Get rid of the EPA!! Make paper logs great again!! Make truckin great again!!

[@monteclark1115]

I realize that air pollution is a very real problem and diesel exhaust is a large contributor to the problem, but loading trucks with a bunch of complex and unreliable equipment is not the solution. Truckers have been left stranded in the middle of the Mojave desert because of a stupid sensor going out. The main reason people liked Diesel engines is because they were so mechanically simple and reliable, now they have more emissions equipment and failure points than a gasoline engine.

[@victorbernier4765]

Diesel is not the largest part of the problem.

[@TheFlyhighlikemike]

@@victorbernier4765 stupid comment

[@victorbernier4765]

@@TheFlyhighlikemike so was the post even more stupid than my response. And so to ur dumb brainless comment.

[@davids4063]

@Victor Bernier gunner is pointing out that your comment lacks any substance. You should tell us what the largest part of the problem is if you gonna say something like that.

[@TheFlyhighlikemike]

@@davids4063 thank you… people are such idiots on the internet.

[@bigbaby4584]

My truck was always in the shop behind that DEF the first time I had my warranty and it was in shop for a week , the 2nd no warranty had to pay 2200 to get out the shop at Freightliner with a week downtime, 3rd time had to call someone out, had problems with regining and the engine light would come on all the time ,put it on the machine my mechanic says your filters need to be replaced and u need your 2 sensors inlet and outlet about 3,000 dollars and I said the Hell away with that got my truck deleted for 2200 and it’s been 5 months and my truck runs dam good and also get good fuel mileage and it pulls dam good. Me personally I would tell them to kiss my natural black ass because it doesn’t makes sense for our Government to screw us like that.

[@anonymoustrucker1782]

What state u got delete at?

[@jasonswift7098]

Must be your really shit quality high sulphur diesel you have over there.

[@ryangeorge9117]

I like the gamble of deletion. Screw the Gov. 🤝

[@philipdyar9690]

And dont take this the wrong way please .And it is truly not a black or white thing.It is a let's get the independent trucker out and the megas in cause you know they brib.....oops contributed 2mil to our campaign and you know I gave his nephew the druggie a place on the fmcsa and he's doing a fine job.Well why do you think I gave my sister's boy a job over to the epa they got the same dealer reminds me send that feller over at the dea an attiboy

[@patbullard9276]

Remember that when you go to the polls to vote for global warming Democrats.

[@jrmorgan3605]

I've been a mechanic on gas engines Diesel and motorcycle for over 30 years I have found no benefits to the def emissions system other than robbing the engine to power and shortening the life of the engine these systems are crap!!!!!!!!

[@Hazmatt3446]

I have a ‘17 Cascadia. No emissions issues except a DEF wire harness though I know a One Box replacement is coming. That being said, for many reasons, I wish the feds would swallow their pride and admit the folly of emissions. I can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first. RIP, Mick.

[@rearspeaker6364]

don't forget the hat!

[@YoungGuttiMoney]

🧢

[@thetruckerslearningchannel3211]

@Hazmatt Run a gallon of Max Mileage through your tanks. It'll take about 24k miles. But it will help clean your one box and sensors. It's designed to lower the burn temp of carbon soot.

[@user-qt8zt6zg6w]

The scr will be full first

[@nskgraff]

My one box just went down, just hit 500k and it’s done

[@kevincowperthwait3946]

Bought two trucks in 2012 and the emission systems put me into bankruptcy in 2 years. Horrible . Could not keep them on the road. Owned trucks for 34 years and could not make a living with this junk. Now only run older trucks without emissions

[@anthonybyrne7121]

I drive a bus for work in Australia it is one of the older buses in the fleet and therefore doesn't have DEF or a DPF. My Church as a small truck with a DPF have only had one issue with the DPF. We had to train all the drivers about not turning the truck off while it does a regen because the issue was caused by it being shut down during a regen. This caused the engine light to come on and the engine to derate until it was fixed.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

They havent marched you off to a gulag death camp yet?..WtF is going on down there with the covid nazis?

[@davidhendrickson5674]

Cost me a fortune in and a whole lot of downtime been down since mud July trying to figure out issues that could be avoided by just letting the dealer figure it all out. I hate the EPA for the mess they've created. There in bed with too many big corporations making money under the table. I'm sure some good the big trucking companies are loving putting us smaller carriers out of business as well.

[@denniserb3270]

i bought my first truck in 77 and ran 48 states and canada until 97 then turned wrenches for a pete dealership for 24 years i retired 3 months ago bought a 93 cabover with a rebuilt n14 and 13 speed trans.i saw cat retire from the truck market and the advent of the mx engin not only is this new emissions bs but it is costing billions of dollars that we the people are paying for it is rare to see a customer drive off the lot with out getting a check eng light screw your new emissions it dosent work it is putting o/o out of business and driving the cost of products up and i wouldnt drive any truck with an auto shit transmission yes i spelled that wright what we need is less steering wheel holders and better drivers iu could go on forever about this but only falls on def ears

[@rearspeaker6364]

that paccar mx 13 is a boat anchor!!

[@rowlandloewen5300]

I personally do t have a deleted engine in my truck. When my engine went down I pulled it out and installed an engine that I had from a wrecked truck that is pre smog 1999. I’ve been very happy with it. No problems to date.

[@bryanthumphries5411]

I'm gonna keep rebuilding my old kitty cat until the day I die.#NODEFFORME

[@Plowguitarist]

People think you can idle these def engines like the old Cats and N14’s. All you gotta do is install an apu from new, use it, don’t idle, clean filter every 200,000 miles and you’ll have minimal problems. YOU CAN NOT SIT AROUND IDLING THESE NEW ENGINES!!! PERIOD!!! Inviting problems..

[@CarlosDieselElectric]

I work on many of these trucks with the "After treatment" and they can be a huge headache. Expensive, very time consuming to diagnose and repair. I totally understand why truckers are doing what they need to do to work. The question should be, what are manufacturers doing to ensure these systems work and actually work right for more than just the warranty period. I honestly feel for these guys that are suddenly hit with the decision to repair or "defeat"

[@sstevocamaro]

If the government wants these emission systems on the trucks it should be a lifetime warranty included on the parts.. PERIOD!

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@sstevocamaro or at least the first 1 mil. miles unlimited years.

[@davidsignor7931]

I have worked at a KW dealership they don't make it out of warranty to many times

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@davidsignor7931 that's bad! the 1 year 100,000 mile warranty I assume?

[@georgeslayman2411]

It's called planned obsolescence.

[@clintonhurst7810]

My last truck was a 2012 kw t660 with the Paccar MX13. In the 4 yrs I had it I put $35,000 cash out of pocket into the def system in sensors and other components. Also in that 4 yrs, I only had 1 mechanical failure when a spring broke in the clutch assy. Now I have a 2015 kw t660 Cummins ISX15 and spent $6000.00 in tubes, sensors, dpf wiring harness and a whole new dpf filter. Just since September 2021. Still getting check engine lights. It never stops with this BS!!

[@jcfabwerx]

I started my career as a diesel mechanic in 1997. You never saw much smoke. They made better mileage and would go 1 million plus miles without major failure or down time. They were easy to diagnose and repair. Basically all have gone down hill since 2002 emissions started. There is a reason truck shops stay full. The systems have not been perfected. Black smoke is wasted fuel but the electronic engines of the late 90's and early 2000's didn't smoke.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

I concur

[@JuanLopez-jk9mu]

Comes down to this... After the 2nd or 3rd year of your truck being in service, if you do not delete chances are VERY high that you will end up with crippling DPF issues, even if you did everything correctly. I see it day in and day out. The fact is that there was very little testing done and this was rushed out and it has exponentially increased breakdowns in OTR trucks. No matter what side of the isle you are on, this does little in the greater scheme of things to help with the environment and costs us big, especially the little guy that flat out does not make enough money to keep up with the service and repair on DPF trucks. I have had 2021 and 2022 trucks broken down for weeks due to DPF issues... Sure, warranty covers it, but who covers the $$$$ I have lost in revenue during that trucks "Peak" payback period? Its sad, truly sad, as if the bottom line was not razor thin enough... So you are left with two choices... One, delete and never have to worry about it again (if done properly) or continue to have an unreliable piece of machinery that will sooner than later leave you stranded... There is a reason why the mega carriers rotate their fleet every 2-3 years and the sad part is I see OOPs happily buying them up not knowing what is coming a few months down the line. I am ALL for the Environment so long as we don't go broke taking care of it, because in both scenarios there is nothing left to save. There must be a better way, design a less intrusive AND RELIABLE DPF system... You want to see how quickly this happens? Mandate that all manufacturers have to warranty them for 10 years from the first date the truck is put in service... Make it law and WATCH how quickly they fix them...

[@smithsmithsammal1806]

That's a good point you up that warranty.they will go back to the drawing board and make a better product.

[@MrFriday83]

I like the idea of not smelling like exhaust all the time, the technology is definitely improving but I don't think it's a system that should be regulated, and definitely not regulated until the technology is at least perfected. But gonna say it anyone who deletes a brand new work truck is beyond dumb, not worth the risk. Just buy a old one if you want ol school

[@LavenderSystem69]

Better yet, gliders are a thing. All the new school creature comforts and amenities, but under the hood it's all old school

[@MrFriday83]

@@LavenderSystem69 that's something else their cracking down on

[@MrFriday83]

@Adventures of Trucker186 rarely, and usually only in the winter. Where exhaust is 100% of the time. Im not supporting it, I'm just giving a single positive.

[@MrFriday83]

@Adventures of Trucker186 Exhaust has a oder very strong doesn't matter if it's on a stack or grass burner the oder falls on your skin and clothes which you carry into cab so your cab after awhile starts to smell like exhaust. Doesn't mean you have a leak in the cab. I'm not sure if I've gotten better at cleaning and not smelling like exhaust all the time or the def systems on trucks have made me smell less. We all have different oders that effect us different, and luckily for me the dpf doesn't offend me to often

[@lilripstaSSF4]

@@LavenderSystem69 gliders are illegal to build now. So either you have to purchase a used one and for upwards of 150k I’ll buy 2 older trucks with overhauls before a glider

[@robpane8267]

The closer I get to going for my CDL the more research I do. The more research I do the more reasons I question if it's worth it. Seems like regardless of being from Cali there's no shortage of horses**t meant to deter potential new drivers away.

[@colt45peacemaker]

Never lease or buy a Truck. Just be a company driver.

[@ericholland8179]

Go find a local job . If you must drive a truck you will be much happier an have a life. Or explore other avenues !!!

[@Boomhauer333]

Thank all the Biden voters

[@brandonpartin1325]

Glad I got out when I did. After e logs I went to older trucks and decided it was not gunna get any better. So I got out while I could still make money selling my old trucks.

[@redjeb5833]

My 2008 was deleted. If I didn't do it, it would of bankrupted me. I sold it and bought a 2018 Cascadia evolution that's getting over 7mpg and it has a tripac apu. I keep the Def full and never idle. Haven't had any problems and it's been 8 months. The dealer recommended a emissions cleaning every 2 years.

[@sparksyg1932]

I heard the new gen cascadias are very realible emissions wise the sensors are a whole nother story

[@Kay.D]

@@sparksyg1932 2017+ cascadias are pretty good.

[@Lazarus-nw1ve]

DPF cleaning is only done by a certified tech and Cummins is the only one that can do a "wash out" otherwise it's a new DPF kit at 250,000 miles. If you wait until 350,000-400,000 miles DPF splits apart with single line fracturing. The wash out does not extend past 350,000 miles and is only good one time. That is an expensive "clean out" to gain 100,000 miles to then replace the whole thing. Federal Laws have since changed: you delete a truck? You own it for life. You buy a deleted truck it can not go across state lines. Do these things all year long...until you get caught. Your fines when caught will top out with a prison sentence.

[@buffettfanman]

Buy an older truck that is grandfathered out of this. Do a remodel rebuild engine and trans to standards of the year of the truck. Roll on!

[@jessereese2576]

My first year as an owner op I spent 10 grand on the def system they have definitely improved on newer generation Trucks but buying a used truck that's not deleted it could be a costly gamble

[@Plowguitarist]

Luckily my 2015 ISX has 500,000 miles and 0 issues. I DO NOT IDLE. I have an apu. DEF HATES IDLE. These guys with issues are idling. Clean your filter, every 200,000 miles, for around $600, DO NOT SIT AROUND IDLING and you won’t have any issues. My 3 brothers use the same operating model and they’ve had 0 issues. 1 has 900,000 and 0 issues. These aren’t old cats you can idle for 3 weeks at a time. Understand that and install an apu from new (AND USE IT) and there’s no problems.

[@armyjeep4]

Thats why our shop only runs 2005 and older trucks,but we stay local so it works out for us.We dont do any cross country stuff

[@freightshakernation9429]

Same with us

[@WhiteTrashMotorsports]

Not just the EPA bit all government has grown too big and out of control . The people need to take the power back.

[@fozman845]

Well alot of you are going to argue my answer on DEF. Do not fill it to max over the years driving I noticed that when full constant regens and yellow eng on dash. Then noticed no issues when 1/2 to 3/4 full very little issues. So over the years I drain to 1/2 a tank then put 15 bucks or 5 gallons brings it to 3/4 full. Since then no issues. I looked at the schematic to figure out why and only thing is the swishing back fourth when full pushes to much def towards one box causing faulty readings. I have done this on electric and air driven pumps. Maybe with it not being full gives room for gas or liquid to move around in the container. But do what works for you.

[@azcactusflower1]

Interesting...

[@juliogonzo2718]

It seems to do something in the winter. I don't know if having less of it in the tank makes it thaw out quicker or what but it seems to do something. We have a couple shitty hinos in the fleet at work and they have problems when def is full in winter.

[@tomtee4442]

I was driving a newer big truck with def. I filled def all the way to top pulled nozzle out and kept filling. Later truck light on in dash was on fixed then broke again and then had to be towed. I kept filling the truck the same these new trucks have to many problems.

[@fozman845]

@@tomtee4442 like I mentioned just give it a try only fill def to 3/4 of a tank

[@sneakycobra5939]

Strike to remove DEF is what seems more reasonable at this point

[@Subjectiveopinion.]

I’m with it.

[@emmanuelrodriguez9361]

amazed how this not the top comment, it sure is the only solution

[@smoothjazz4076]

This is what is needed. Unity can bring about change.

[@victorbernier4765]

Def is killing the environment not helping it.

[@cargotoolshop5319]

The excessive exhaust pressures and exhaust heat is detrimental to the newer diesel engines second of all a deleted truck should never have to see the shop unless you have catastrophic failure, stay strong

[@All-Miles-Matter]

I love exhaust after treatment! What do you mean? It works great!!!! Never any problems with that system. Best invention EVER!!!!! SIGHHHH

[@andrewstory2316]

With the crap law enforcement is pulling on truckers we need to shut the industry down for a month, and get the ones who come in from overseas OUT of the country.

[@dansumpt2432]

I spent over 35 years behind the wheel,never had a at fault and my last moving violation was in 1994, retired in 2018, have many years left of driving but hung up the keys due to all of this over regulation , the cost to own a truck has become more than it's worth to drive the thing! D.o.t. fines for everything under the sun along with elds and emissions and that's the shirt list..... We now have the worst driver shortage ever in history and big companies are sending kids out after 14 days of training....that by it's self keeps me out of the game! There is one and only one reason for the driver shortage..... And that would be the feds!

[@andreychuprin7365]

If I would definitely delete, straight from showroom floor! Especially now days, you have a warranty but the truck sits due to lack of parts, usually emissions controls are the culprit.

[@craigj.651]

That would be dumb, they didnt design it to be deleted, waste of money.

[@andreychuprin7365]

@@craigj.651 yeah it is, so is waiting on def quality sensor, paccar said maybe it will be in this Dec, truck got warranty with 280k on the clock and it won't run without it, but the payments are still going. Maybe if epa is going to be kind enough and cover them until it's fixed, its been sitting since August and at this point delete is the only logical solution. I'm all for clean emissions but they have to be reliable.

[@timothykeith1367]

@@Benni711 Several years ago an engineer built a electronic filter for modified car engines that always returned acceptable values when the OBD2 port was scanned. The EPA forced him to stop. It was an electronic device that passes through acceptable values and adjusted the out of range codes so that state emissions testing would always pass. It worked because the testing stations did not use exhaust gas sniffers but depended upon the onboard diagnostics of the vehicle

[@russellhayes407]

We need to get the dirty old trucks off the road.

[@18_wheeler97]

I agree emissions suck!...But if you get a truck after '16 they are much improved & Pittsburgh power has some great products that will extend the life of your emission truck.

[@rocket3795]

I agree with you missed the days when the stacks blew the black coal an trucking was fun the good ol days trucks were trucks

[@theramblingeorgian1774]

Rolling coal contributed to the changes. You could actual see all the crap in the air because some diesel owners think they were showing off. I think they were showing stupidity. Crack down on owners and shops for small trucks occurring because of the same reason. Owners causing their on demise. My opinion and I own a Dodge diesel.

[@llewellynbyron]

The operating costs and downtime with emissions have soared. It's literally a matter of luck with these systems. If you gotta delete, I'd agree if not the truck is worthless. I just cannot agree with rebuilding an emission year engine. Get an old CAT, Cummins, Or Detroit....put a straight pipe and grab a ruler for your logbook.

[@larryyang976]

i had a 2010 VW Jetta TDI and i LOVE it --- very sporty and fun. after selling that back to VW i bought a EPA compliant 2015 VW golf TDI and i can feel it's definitely less powerful with frequent regens. i really miss that 2010 Jetta.

[@hayzeproductions7093]

So here is a few things i will point out so bare with me Mother Trucker! Slap your seatbelt on because its about to be a lengthy paragraph. First i will start off with VW and their emissions scandal. I am an owner of a 2009 Jetta TDI, it is currently sitting in the garage right now because i cant get it out of Limp Mode and have to spend $700 for a Ross Tech CanBus adapter because Volkswagen wants to charge me $4500 for a new dpf filter (After the warranty recall has been done to car 30,000 miles ago) They put a new dpf filter in the car, filter is good but VW wants to charge me for another filter that costs more than the car. BECAUSE they don't believe the car needs a "Parked Regen" using VCDS on my laptop, nor did they every hear about such thing (I already did my research on this) The soot levels are a 0.05% more than the parameters the ECM will allow for a regular driving regen, so I have to initiate a parked regen aka. Emergency Regen. How the emissions scandal happened. This was not really VW's intentions, it ended up happening upon ecm development. How they managed to figure out VW cars were fooling emissions without realizing this. Because VW's were front wheel drive cars, they would put the car on a front wheel drive setup on the dyno. Mind you, These cars have sensors in everything including the BRAKE PADS. yes there are wires and connectors on each individual brake pad, because I had to spend over $300 in just pads for this car. So the wheel bearings also have sensors in them as well, this is to help with traction control. VW Diesels have a very strict ecm programming in them that will make these cars go into "Limp-Mode" over a simple evap leak. (No Joke) By default when these cars get on a 2wd dyno and the back wheels are not spinning, the traction control light will blink and the ecm will get into a level 1 Limp Mode, which will dial the power back. It was VW's intentions of dialing power back for safety reasons. However some college students caught on with the issue, so they wanted to investigate and see why VW cars were doing this. They were able to take a VW car over to a tuning shop which had a dyno supporting 2 rollers on deck. The 2nd roller was powered by a belt underneath the dyno to keep the speed up on the back wheels along with the front. Traction control light never came on, and power was way on the charts. They also taken a smog test kit and found that a car with less than 30k miles failed emissions MISERABLY. So they reported it to CARB, and thats when water hit the fan with VW. Now Truck emissions issues! At one point I worked for a company that had their trucks locked down to 62 miles an hour. It was every single month I was in the shop because these trucks COULD NOT regen properly. I was always getting engine derate messages in the dash, check engine lights etc. I was pushing a Cummins ISX-3 and used to not like them because of all the regening issues. But as time when on I learned a few things about why these issues happened the way they did. Its not because of high idle time, Its not because of high mileage, its Because 62 mph at 1100 rpm's are NOT enough to burn the soot levels out of any DPF filter. Climbing hills at 1100 rpm's will also lug an engine to its death, by burning the piston rings out and eating engine oil. To the day! That company would sell those trucks around 600 to 700k miles the moment they noticed engine was eating oil and Cummins was not wanting to warranty certain trucks in their fleet anymore. The company I work for now, hauling materials in the oilfield industry, we have our trucks set at 75mph, which rides at 1600rpm's on a 10 speed. When I'm out on work that truck is left on for 3 weeks straight. When I shift, its usually around 1800 rpm's specially when pulling hills loaded at 80k. My current Engine Cummins ISX-3 with 800k miles. Runs like its brand new. Never seen a single Engine derate message, never had a regen issue, never once had to add any oil in it, and we can pull just about any hill fully loaded going no less than 73mph. Same engine, same emissions system, different company, with a higher set governor. The problem is most mega carrier fleets will dump all the power out of the truck and speed to save on fuel. But trust me when I tell you, those savings in fuel costs are going to be used for fixing the emissions on a lower powered truck.

[@koollee]

Man u r so right.. low governed truck.. driver tryin to make it up a hill is dumping only partially burned fuel-exhaust into the filters and choking the engine. My old company that fired me last yr for no reason (i didnt giv a fk.. i had money saved and other plans anyway).. called me earlier this yr to come back for more money. Last yr the truck went 75 on pedal, 80 on cruise control (kw t680 with cummins isx450) I agreed to come back this yr but stipulated a sped up truck like i had b4 without askin (i wont drive a slow truck for many reasons) They lied and sent me out in a 70mph truck. They lied and bullshhtd for 3 weeks about turnin the truck up. When they finally did, i learned that u can raise or lower each gears rpm as well. So youre right, a good rpm limit of 1900, 2000 is where u want to be. That truck ran so dam good. My project truck sat in the back of their yard so u know i felt shitty drivin theirs, neglecting mine. I built my money up, quit them and went around the corner to their young tech. He turned my Cascadia up to 86mph, and the rpms had already been set, and still are at around 2200 per gear. I left em at that, tho 1900 is a good sweet spot. I jus know not to over rev my engine DD15. Its an ex Schneider truck

[@SuperEightball1]

DPF AND DEF are nothing but Grief. So glad I'm at the end of my career . Left lane trukkin was great. RIP

[@aaronmorrill2973]

Pushed me to a pre emission truck. The biggest thing they refuse to talk about is how bad that "clean exhaust" is. Have asthma and I would have asthma attacks 2-3 times per day. Pre emission and I can breathe. EPA is corrupt as these horrible emissions on trucks. Apparently a truck on the side of the road is ok versus a truck that goes down the road.

[@bizkit81]

Screw the EPA! It’s time to put the government back in its place!

[@notchfox6086]

Definitely a subject that i wouldn't like to be involved in to,,, I stick to my 1999 12.7 litter!🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ericmendez5815]

You’re time is coming brother. They will soon crack down on those as well.

[@damonlyde4741]

It's BS they know the shit tears up your truck keeps you in the shop yet no improvements to it. They're killing the Industry with all the regulations on top of this mess. I understand why people are going for older trucks with the epa system the trucks are garbage!

[@karlmalone2464]

They can retrofit those to use DPF, if it comes down to it. I know they do it in Cali, but it costs like $20k.

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@karlmalone2464 interesting, do you know the dealership name?

[@notchfox6086]

@@ericmendez5815 when the times comes i would definitely look in to another carrer

[@ronaldhorvath2910]

Supreme Court overstepped their boundaries!!

[@markm0000]

You’re risking everything driving around with a deleted truck. Just buy a old truck and keep it runnin. Bonus you get to run paper logs. I had a truck with missing parts and not being able to go to a random dealer or big truck stop in the middle of nowhere sucked. Also you can’t trust bigger shops they’ll rat you out for the $$$$$$$ so you’re stuck with small mom and pop places.

[@keithrowell8895]

Bullshit.

[@markm0000]

@@keithrowell8895 Is all that comes out of your mouth? What you tryin’a say?

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Not in heartland farm country..No one cares..Buddies delete trucks for buddies..

[@MarkSarg]

I know of a shop in Illinois that removed all the emissions off the truck I was driving that belonged to an owner operator.... Had to be towed twice because the exhaust system regenerate switch didn't work... Removing the emissions helped...the only problem is, most shops won't work on trucks that don't have emissions...

[@thekingsservant1104]

If it was such a good thing then Cat wouldn't have said screw you and stopped building them for semi's! I knew a guy that took all the crap off of his Cat, did a military ECM and went from 5 mpg to 9.5 mpg and over 700hp in a 379. ANYTIME an engine was tuned on a dyno correctly it made more power, got far better mpg and lasted longer!!

[@notchfox6086]

Any links to that mens chanel on KZbin by any chance! 🤔

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@notchfox6086 or contact in PA., Pittsburg Diesel.

[@notchfox6086]

@@rearspeaker6364 👍

[@thekingsservant1104]

@@notchfox6086 nah, I haven't talked to him in a while...he may have given it up now

[@BryanTorok]

Decades ago, when cat converters first appeared on cars and they required unleaded gas, some owners either deleted the cat converter or punched out the guts of the converter. Then modified the fuel fill neck to accept the leaded gas nozzle. Lots of gas stations would refuse to pump leaded gas into those cars and shops would not work on them as they didn't want to get blamed for the mods. Over time, the emission controls and tuning improved. Also, the EPA required manufacturers to warranty the systems for 100,000 miles. Prior to that, an exhaust system might last 3 - 4 years and rust away, particularly in the snow/salt zones. Now, my 2005 Toyota Sienna and 2003 Ford Crown Vic both have the original exhaust. Come to think of it, I did have the flex pipe replaced on the Toyota about 3 years ago with an aftermarket part. And not it sounds like it may be developing a leak in the same area. But, heck, at 16 years and 255K miles I can't complain very much for how long that has lasted. So, if the EPA is going to require this stuff on trucks, they should require it to be warranted for at least 200K miles and 8 years (or longer, you tell me what would be appropriate). That would provide lots of incentive for the manufacturers to either fight the EPA or build a better product.

[@robertphillips2462]

I agree except it should be a warranty of atleast 8 years/800k miles. 100-150k os the average life span of a normal car trucks are 800k-1m

[@brandonsieber1335]

This makes me love my 05 w9 with a cat even more!!!

[@davidwhite9848]

The Authority you get to haul freight in the United States comes from the Federal Government. Yes you own the truck but the Federal Government gives you the Authority to operate. So therefore you have to obey their rules. In the next 20 years your truck will be electric anyway.

[@rickeycompton5518]

The EPA has grabbed way to much POWER it needs to be reigned in!!!!

[@EX1TR]

Hopefully the electric truck market will hurry up so we can drive around with a diesel generator so we can charge our trucks in the middle of the desert.

[@ElEfectivovlogs]

This is why you get it done in México or with Mexican we have a mentality of not snitches

[@espeeKeith]

California just did a study and determined DEF fluid is more harmful than Diesel itself 🤣 so now they are looking into something to replace the DEF/and or system.

[@DutchVannDerLinde]

Is there a link to an article or video about this?