EPA has Killed the Mercedes Sprinter Van in this Terrible Economy

[@MikeGabler]

Please watch this video for as long as you can stomach. This guy is so uneducated about Sprinter vans.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@MikeGabler Yes I a. So uneducated That I own sprinters all my life and I have worked on them all my life.So yeah , I know nothing about them , but it looks like you are a mechanic of sprinters👍👍

[@RobsonRob-j8e]

This guy has no idea of Sprinter lineup. 2.0l is at work in Europe for 20 years and is regarded as the best van powertrain on sale.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

the 3.0 liter has more history in the market then the 2.0

[@micheljansen85]

Euhm.. there's ~2.0 liter diesels since the 70's in europe. Million km's w123 taxis or 700k+ 1.9tdi's still running around. Doesnt all need to be a 5.9 cummins for longevity. There's plenty of vans+trailers with a combined weight of 7000kg (15000 lbs) on the roads here and if the go bust, its usually emissions crap like egr valves that kill them or shorten their lifespan Pricewise you're right. Thats insane for a simple van.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@RobsonRob-j8e thanks Michael and you are right emissions is the biggest problems

[@demio22]

"Only two turbos" ... man

[@sjorswouters4705]

This man has very little knowledge of cars. Mercedes has been making sprinters with 2.0l engines for 20 years and they can easily tow 2 tons and have run 500,000 kilometers.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

i had a 2.1 Liter for 50k miles and 2 turbos and antifreeze starting leaking out of the engine ware it needed to be rebuild on a 2014 sprinter and i don't know what im talking about, common men do your homework please

[@sjorswouters4705]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 I don't believe you, that's not possible at A or you give full throttle wherever possible. You have an answer to everything we say, so it becomes unbelievable

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

@mercedessprinterdiy8556 expspiditors are using these to haul up to 4 pallets of goods. I'm sorry you sound a little ignorant and arrogant on this subject. I spoke with one that did full time transport! He said if it's well maintained shouldn't be a issue . Rpms stay low and I run the Highway everyday.

[@borandell9915]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 These guys trying to say you are wrong either A) have never owned one or B) don't understand auto mechanics. There is a C) but I don't want to call them that. And no, it's not that C. LOL

[@DimaS-dt2dm]

What is 500,000 km for the USA? If I make 140,000 miles per year... a costly van just for 2 years ? Turbocharger to be replaced at about 200,000 miles.... Now they want to double that cost. This is absolutely European version of the power plant.

[@cleverchristopher]

I agree that this guy has never driven a 2.0 / 2.1 turbo diesel sprinter... mine is 8 years old and is totally awesome!

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@cleverchristopher wow but my video was about towing 5000 lbs with a 2.0L

[@vasilysyulyukov6911]

I have 2015 2.1turbp. I haul a 6k trailer 3 times a week. Ez. 65k miles on it. Hauls very nice.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Not bad but i had a 2.1 same as your an i was towing 5000 lb and antifreeze was coming out of the engine block so i had to sell it like that and now a smaller 2.0 , time will tell , time will tell my friend.

[@romonek]

2.0 liter is plenty of power. The chassis can't tow over 5000k anyway. If you wanna tow, get a Ford High HO f350 or Ram 3500 diesel. Isuzu diesel has been 4 cylinders for s decades.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

no i think i will keep my 3.0 Liter v6 sprinter for as long as i can it saves lots of fuel

[@toyota420xp]

Max towing is 7500 pounds

[@ka0t1c07]

Isuzu are 5.2L I-4. It’s almost 3x the size

[@dlg5485]

The moment you start comparing gas and diesel, I knew you had no clue what you were talking about. I actually agree that this engine is too weak for 11000 GVWR, but no one knows how reliable this powertrain will be over the long term. Only time will answer that question. Also, most people absolutely do not tow with these vans. They convert them to RVs or the use them for hauling cargo, but they're not towing. You are just trying to projecting your experience and opinions onto everyone.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@dlg5485 only time will tell I hope I'm wrong And most of my friends they tow with a sprinter

[@Scoobydue420]

What do you mean no one will know how reliable the power chains are. They’ve been around for over 30+ years they’re not new.

[@Scoobydue420]

Obviously, you own older van or even if it’s a new one, it’s not as fuel efficient as the diesel sprinters.

[@12vLife]

When will we see the EV eSprinter 144 in the USA? And will you be able to run the A/C overnight with all lights and display off?

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@12vLife I really don't like the range on the esprinter Especially when i'm towing

[@cmacblue42]

Doing fine in my 2.0L 2023 Sprinter weighing 10k lbs at Mammoth Lakes (8kft elevation) right now. It’s happier at 55 than at 70 up a steep enough grade. But the 2020s were the same. Other than that the 2023 is an improvement in every way. AWD transmission is better than the fake 4x4. Sequential twin turbo doesn’t lag. Computer nannys (lane assist; tire size; etc) less intrusive. Time will tell but it’s a diesel and I think you will get more problems babying them than hammering them (ie DPF).

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

i agree only time will tell thanks for your cement 👍

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 your a Moran for speaking before you try !

[@sprintermotors]

Absolutely time will be a benefit to EVERY Sprinter mechanic with your beloved 2.0 liter junk renault motor. It will be a great fun to replace 2! EGR valves, 2 EGR! Coolers, 2! DEF injectors. You have no idea what you are even talking about this engines. Go to UK or any European forums, those engines where introduced in Europe in 2016! 8 years ago! Everybody who has Sprinter’s there either stick to OM642 3.0 or OM651 2.1. I was laughing 😂 about fake 4x4. What a joke. None of them ever perform like a real 4x4. However it’s good to be able to control the throttle YOURSELF and not by computer, again rear differential lock solves all the problems. Do some research before making out statements like that

[@brendanelliott-r3q]

lol my UK 5-tonne ex Emergency Ambulance twin rear wheels is a 2.1 litre 4 cylinder engine. Are you telling me that I am imagining how well it tows a fully loaded caravan? Oh and it has 535,000km on the clock… In the 5 years I’ve owned it, it’s had nothing expect yearly services + 2 tyres. Zero issues. I’m not entirely sure you understand the torque (or longevity) available in a Mercedes 2.1 litre diesel engine…

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

thanks for your comment that is good to know

[@EliMendozaHair]

Mines plenty powerful. I was cruising at 85 up hill easy yesterday. Overall averaging 22mpg

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@EliMendozaHair awesome performance but only time will tell how wel those transmission and turbos will last with all that stress

[@Scoobydue420]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 these motor and transmission combinations have been around for over 30 years. We already know that they’re reliable. You’re just making a stupid video for likes.

[@JonathanMcGuire-xq2bi]

How was you experience towing in the new sprinter?

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@JonathanMcGuire-xq2bi I would not even try to tow 5000 with a 2.0L I had the 2.1 Liter twin turbo and from the pressure of towing 3500Lb The Engine Colant started to pou or the engine block ,that's how I know this engines will not be a long time reliability

[@njseashorechas2698]

I looked at one at Atlantic City Mercedes. Yes the are beautiful. No I will not buy one with a 2.0. My 1995 Ford Econoline E350 with the 7.3 diesel will tow 10,000 pounds!

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@njseashorechas2698 now that is a van you want to keep do to being diesel and 10000 towing that is 👍 great

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

Take 1 shot for every time he says two point oh! 🤣

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va lol thats funny And thanks for watching

[@CesarPalma-jj3lw]

I have a New Sprinter 2024 HO and it drives quite well. The 9speed transmission makes a big difference. It doesn't feel like a 2.0

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

very true but you know how much that engine will suffer going over a overpass or a mountain towing 5000 lb , have you tried that yet? that means that engine will not last much and i had a 2.1 liter 7 speed Transmission before and it really suffer going over a small overpass and antifreeze started leaking from the block from the high engine stress

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

imagine if they build a 3.0 Liter 2 turbo 9 speed Transmission that will be equivalent to a V8 engine in my opinion

[@mikecook5749]

Do I have the 2023 2L high output diesel the first year they came out. I love mine

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

Ran my 23 2.0 in mountains and on long runs and so far perform great ! Also on highway getting 24 mpg is a bonus also. 9 speed starts at a nice low gears. I see people towing 18ft tandem axles with it ! So I don't think with proper gearing it's a issue. Very peppy in the city also I average about 21 to 22 in town.

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 truthfully I thing the gearing is the key. From what I've seen on mine it maintained a good steady speed up hill and down hill. Typically I have to move to the passing lanes on hills becuz everyone else is slowing.

[@ChevyPedia]

Our Silverado with the 2.7L 4 Cylinder Gas can tow more than 9,000 Pounds. The 3.0 Diesel Inline Six can also pull more than 9,000 pounds. Our 2022 Colorado with the 2.8L Duramax Diesel was capable of towing 7,700 Pounds. And currently the Colorado (which is Motor Trend Truck of the Year) is only available with the 4 Cylinder 2.7 Gas from the Silverado and can also tow 7,700 Pounds. Fun fact: Semi Trucks are 6 cylinders and they tow 80,000 pounds. The Turbo is what makes the difference! This Mercedes should be more than capable of towing 5.000 pounds. Engineers know what they're doing.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

i hope they do and only time will tell on what future problems this small engine and very complicated transmissions thanks for watching

[@ka0t1c07]

You know Class 8 trucks 6 cylinder diesel engines are 13-16L engines. Not 2.0/3.0/5.0/6.7L. Even the 9L are rated at 40,000lbs, not 80,000 LBS.

[@nerdworkbench3292]

Maybe they will add a Smart Car Engine for next upgrade

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Lol I will not be 😮 Surprise

[@zom8863]

If they could get MORE horsepower and torque and better MPG, why not?

[@kukukon]

I have a 2.1 liter and a 3 liter sprinter. No comparison in California mountains. The 2.1 is great in town hauling potato chips.

[@smartknife]

I bought a 2022 3.0L in Feb 2023, but had to tow it from New Jersey to Seattle. I believe 2.0 can have the same horsepower as 3.0 with dual turbo, but I still choose 2022 for 2 reasons. When generate same power, 2.0 needs rotate much faster than 3.0, which means shorter life span. Dual turbo also means much higher temperature and higher failing rate. Second, msrp of 2023 is much higher than 2022. It is about 10% higher with the same configuration of 2023 2.0 to 2022 3.0. Moreover, the destination fee was raised from $1700 to $2300.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@smartknife Wow, this is great information.Thank you for sharing it.And I feel the same way as you do two turbos will give you more problems and that is a lot of stress for the transmission and engine for sure

[@geekazoid47]

When he said "with no heart" we started laughing but when he drops "supple leather" we were straight up cackling.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

lol 😂🤣😁👍

[@Hoellenreiter80]

My 2013 facelift Sprinter has the OM 651 4 Cylinder Engine... but I do not tow (haul) usually. Only seldom. Thing is: There are several other things I do not like about the newer sprinters, like the way one can measure the oil only by sensor. My engine still has the old way of measuring the oil. Sprinters peaked between 2000 and 2017.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@Hoellenreiter80 yes cap my 2017 still has the oil measuring stick, the newer sprinter I don't like at all because of their complexity

[@VocalVirgo]

Two turbo chargers mean that that diesel is the high output model, that has 332 lb/ftof torque. That's 7 more than the outgoing V6.However, evenr the slight bump in both horsepower and torque, I could not imagine howing 7,500 ills. The standard diesel engine with a single turbo can tow 5,000 lbs. The discontinued 3.0 V6 could tow 7,500 lbs. I kind of don't trust that this engine (the 2.0 diesel) will have a long life. Mercedes should have made any improvements to the tried and true 3.0 V6. And they could have mated the 9 speed to it. I think it was a wrong move to downsize for any reason. And the MPG are the same... so...I think this is going to bite Mercedes in the ass as these engines fail.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

The old engine has more history in ratability i agree and i agree with you to keep the 3.0 and add the 9 speed transmission that would been a beast of a sprinter , but it looks like the pressure from EPA a government agency forcing manufactures to make small engine so the diesel engine and gasoline will fail in the near future and we all have to be force to go with electric, thanks for your great comment 👍

[@keitha.9788]

For a large heavy vehicle, 2.0L diesel is working very hard, especially when going at highway speeds cross country. For local delivery around town, 2.0L engine might be ok...

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Yes the engine is working hard for sure

[@SprinterJax]

so hung up on tWo pOInT oH and not realizing it's got more power and torque with less issues than the previous 3.0. what a waste of time watching even a second of this.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

only time will tell on what problems this baby engines or transmission will have cap,

[@vito3883]

You are right!!!. Do you know he doesn’t like him he’s bad mouthing on finding every little thing wrong with them I can find 1000 things wrong with the Ford.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@vito3883 good point

[@wildandliving]

Yah ford as a company and ford dealerships bad service as well that's what's wrong with ford

[@CZDigger]

I miss my 2015 Sprinter. Great Gold color. $46k. I built it ONLINE, went to dealership and had it built on their system. Got most of the options. Built in Germany. Had a HVAC CO. Fun truck. Oh, I did buy the extended Mercedes warranty at the time. Holy Moly did that warranty pay for itself after the 36k warranty went away. Alright captain. Nice deep drop vid btw.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@CZDigger Yes, I did the same thing with my sprinter.I order it at the dealer and how to ship from Germany.Those are the best sprinters , and thank you , captain for watching both of my channels and i'm sorry to hear that you sold your sprinter

[@ellerybice3787]

Plan on an ideate engine swap, GM 4.3 or a Toyota v-something or another.

[@neilarmitage6632]

Yes I agree with you. In a big van carrying 1000 kg or 1 metric ton and a trailer, the engine won't last. The 3.0 V6 engine was perfect. I have one and won't change it for anything. It is the long wheelbase with double rear wheels. Carries what I need and tows my 1500 kg GVM trailer easily.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

take care of you 3.0l because they will go up in value as people will want them for towing

[@stephengilstrap]

I dont think people buy Sprinters for towing in the first place, they buy them for hauling freight. Or for a RV build out. If you dont want the 2.0, then dont buy one. Buy a used with 3.0V6

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

thank you

[@mustafaosman48]

I have the V6 diesel and they are so difficult to work on, so maintaining it is at a higher cost. Also have several common failures in the v6 that apprlear at around 100k miles and are expensive. Oil cooler seals, alternator, vacuum pump, swirl flaps. I see the 4cyl as way easier to work on. That's what I would choose

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

The new engine is still very new and has time to prove itself

[@lewieford6416]

He's wrong. I have a 2019 Sprinter with a 2.0 gas engine and 9 speed transmission with 470,000 miles so far. This is the most reliable drive train of any of the diesel Sprinters, Promasters and Chevy vans I've owned. I have never had any issues with the drive train, and I have over 500 hours of idling time in addition to the mileage. Unfortunately Mercedes stopped making the gas Sprinters.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

and can you tell us about your trips to the dealers for repairs? thanks

[@lewieford6416]

I've replaced one fuel injector, one alternator, one radiator hose to the coolant reservoir, one PCV regulator valve and one catalytic converter. I think the PCV regulator valve may have damaged the catalytic converter by dumping excess heat and fuel into the exhaust. All Mercedes dealerships are expensive, so I change my own oil, about $80 for one hour, and my spark plugs, about $85 for one hour of work. I replaced the battery myself. I did my own brakes. I used KZbin videos for guidance.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@lewieford6416 that is not bad for all those miles, and looks like gas engines without the DEF systems are more reliable

[@zsoltkarner2698]

Whats your point ??? I have a LWB high roof MB sprinter with a 3L V6, I just love the thing ! Cheap on fuel, runs great, lots of room ! I know the 2 L diesel consumes even less, but this is what I find when I needed it. You were saying " 2.0 " so many times, it felt like the needle is jumping back on and on the old LP ! Buy american !!!! You will drive on 17L/100Kms instead of 12 L ! You want to tow 16000 IB ? buy a shevy 2500 pick up, ( I have one ) it will do it on 24L/100 KMS ! Seems like you have too much time !

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

lol thanks for watching

[@OutbackOntario]

6:20 here in Canada, your lucky to see a sprinter towing something, they are all fed ex and amazon delivery trucks

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@OutbackOntario Yes because that's probably the only companies that can afford the maintenance

[@BreakingElegance]

Well i will stick to my V6 for now Then i might get a transit next or a used V6 2022 or 2023

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

23 is when they changed to a 2.0

[@BreakingElegance]

@@stoneyvanwie6042 good to know I have a 2019 I’ll stick to 22 and under

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

@@BreakingElegance take one for a spin ! Gear to horsepower ratio is well known! I've own v8s to this and thoroughly impressed! Had a Nissan v6 before this and this is a dramatic half the fuel bill . I drive at least a 120 miles a day ! I come from another truck that was a E350 powestroke and this is so much better in maintenance drive and performance.

[@BreakingElegance]

@@stoneyvanwie6042 I had a transit 250 before it was ok i just didn't like the styling vs the sprinter they're more mods to make the sprinter look nice to since its popular in the RV world but transits are starting to catch up

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

@BreakingElegance lol good luck with ford ! I'm a American car guy so being the 7.3 isn't around anymore that took 15.5 quarts of oil every 5k vs 10 quarts of Mobile one every 20k ! You decide what's best for you .

[@frogzilla9186]

Not sure I agree with everything you said, but you're truly a funny man, you should have your own show, you have a naturally funny personality! Cheers

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

lol thanks 😁👍

[@shawn11207]

Isn't the same thing in RAM?

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@shawn11207 yes ram is having a similar problem with their v6 twin turbo, is a terrible engine and Toyota is having similar issues too

[@brianhead2062]

LMAO...ANOTHER GUY WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@brianhead2062 But only time will tell captain.We're gonna give this van some years of mileage and we'll see

[@stranjac]

Bro the 2.0 is better I own 4 cylinder and a 6 cylinder and a 2.0 hight output, I have loaded it with 4k lbs no problem. On top of that 600 to 700 mile range

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Wow that is good but do you think it's gonna last longer than a V6

[@morninglasssurfboards6904]

Not everyone needs or wants to tow. Space in the engine compartment is a negative??? Formula 1 cars have 1.6 liters and can produce over 800 horsepower. 1.6liters. The upgraded (there are 2 diesel models available) MB 2.0L I4 turbo diesel engine has better power specs than the old 3.0L V6 turbo diesel. The upgraded 2.0L I4 puts out 211HP and 338lbft of torque. The obsolete 3.0L V6 puts out 188HP and 325lbft of torque.

[@toyota420xp]

Max towing is 7500 on 2.0 high output same as 3.0

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes but formula 1 only uses their car for a short time but the question here how long can a 2.0 liter can last before giving problems

[@joniboulware1436]

But not in the RV B plus format. 5000 is the limit.​@@toyota420xp

[@jordanbey870]

They won't sell anything for that price..period..

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes this prices are off the roof

[@jordanbey870]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 mataron la industria.

[@leoknightis95]

Hey how’s it going I’m new to the Channel as I’m looking to get a cargo van for my job I do deliveries I’m new to cargo vans never driven one I do delivery in my pickup truck as im looking to upgrade to one of these 170wb high roof I want to get diesel option as there more reliable in the long haul you say with the 2.0L 4 cylinder could blow up I’m not gonna tow with this just haul cargo as you can hold 3 pallets in the 170wb

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

As long as you don't haul a lot of weight.You should be fine but also remember that diesel comes with a lot of maintenance , especially on the DEF system

[@cristianmaldonado60]

Ive had 3 sprinters. No issue adding 5k of payload on 2500 especially 3500

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

but do you have the small 2.0 engine ?

[@MikeWMiami]

The new twin turbo 2 L has both more HP and more torque than the old V6. I have the old V6 4x4 with the 7 speed transmission and the new drive train with the twin turbo 2 L, all-wheel-drive and 9 speed transmission runs circles around my Sprinter. The new drive train is better in every circumstance. On road, off road, the new AWD is better. I think Sprinter is going to be around for a while.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@MikeWMiami I understand that completely but long term use and heavy towing will not last that engine and transmission before this document problem

[@georgestavros5381]

Has more horsepower and torque than the V-6 it replaced, plus the transmission went from 7 speeds to 9 speed. He has no idea what he is talking about.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@georgestavros5381 Thanks for your comment👍

[@toyota420xp]

The new 2.0 is so much more powerful and torquey than the 3.0 he is full of crap

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

only time will tell how long they last and what problems you will encounter, i hope im wrong

[@GlennInLaguna]

2:07 That engine looks great! Smaller so you can get in there and work on them. Less overall vehicle weight. Better fuel mileage. Awesome!

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Great point! but in the long time i dont think it will last pass 200k

[@ezapata3200]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 I have 2014. With 4 cyl engine 210,000 miles Just spent 3 yrs touring USA Purrs like a kitten I love it ! SO GLAD I DIDNT GET 6 cyl !!

[@AdrianRussell-te3yh]

I’m only going to say that they need to lower the price by 4-5k

[@tripresidue]

I guess there's no more need for a Sprinter channel. Sprinters are dead.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@tripresidue Will I'll keep making videos for the v6 models That will become A legend So we have to take care of them

[@GlennInLaguna]

@@tripresidue this is purely an attention grabber. This guy has very little knowledge.

[@fadyramaihi1975]

2.0 liter but the build them different then the cars Just buy the v6 one

[@geekazoid47]

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about on this brother.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

that transmission will work so hard to make up for the lack of power and two turbos really taking the life of the engine is al about time cap. it will run but for how long only time will tell, i will make a video in 6 to 8 years time and if I'm wrong i will apologize and stand up for my mistake cap,

[@rmw3957]

The creator has an obsession with engine capacity. Modern engines are far more efficient than older engines. My first car (30 years ago!) was a 3.3L inline 6 and it produced about 1/2 the power of my current 2.5L inline 4 which also uses 1/2 the fuel. Hell, F1 cars run tiny engines with huge power.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@rmw3957 That is very understandable.But what do you think about longevity captain

[@rmw3957]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 I think modern engines with modern lubricant do last. My last 3 cars purchased from new all had no issues over the (admittedly small) time I owned them. I bought them, drove for 5 years and traded them in for a new vehicle. The main issue with modern high tech engines is that they can be very expensive to repair. But that applies equally to all engine sizes.

[@rnland3r672]

You're just blabbing general info and does not have any detailed information to support your claim.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@rnland3r672 You have a point but only time will tell what i'm talking about

[@RamSlow]

What's wrong with 2.0L? Smaller the better as long as power is there. More room to work on. Is this a pro or con video? Sounds more like a positive to me.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

is just that you pay 60 to 100$ for a small 2.0 4 cylinder engine that sucks on towing , did you ever had a v6 if you did you would know what im taking about

[@AOTanoos22]

While its a downgrade and i agree with your concerns, the 2L 4-cylinder diesel is fine. The 2L you find in the sedans are completely different engines that the ones you find on the sprinter, and its also completely different compared to the previous 2.1L Sprinter. These are all new developed engines you should give a chance. In Europe, we are unfortunately hit much harder with the downsizing bs, we are used to 2.0L Sprinters by now...while yes the previous V6 was better, the new engines can tow just as much. Tried it in the Alps and the engine does it well. Though it would help a lot if the prices would go down significantly, Mercedes in general from sedan to Sprinter is getting way too expensive for what they offer nowadays. Here is why they no longer offer the V6. Mercedes introduced an all new engine family in 2017/2018 where they switched to inline engine only for their 6 cylinder. The new inline 6 cylinder engines, don't fit into the Sprinter as the engine is too long. The V6 was just kept around as long as they could, as it could only be modernized to a certain point since it's no longer developed and last gen. So everybody knew sooner or later the V6 was going to be ditched. I wish Mercedes developed an inline 5 cylinder as a middle ground as it still would fit in a Sprinter, i think the Sprinter would be perfect with such an engine.

[@toyota420xp]

How is the new 2.0 a downgrade when it has over 30 more hp like 13 more torque . real world probably 15% better mpg. Smoother faster better mpg how is that a downgrade

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes i had the inline 5 and it was a great van the only problem i had was the turbo hose blew up 2 times

[@sprintermotors]

Time will be a benefit to EVERY Sprinter mechanic with that 2.0 liter junk renault motor. It will be a great fun to replace 2! EGR valves, 2 EGR! Coolers, 2! DEF injectors. Those engines where introduced in Europe in 2016! 8 years ago! Everybody who has Sprinter’s there either stick to OM642 3.0 or OM651 2.1. I would never change OM642 3.0 engine to junk 2.0.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

i feel the same way i will keep my 3.0 till i ran it to the ground👍

[@borandell9915]

My thoughts exactly. I have the V6 4x4 Sprinter Van with a Thor Class B build on it. That thing weighs 8,500 lbs now.. Can't imagine putting a continuous weight like that on an engine that small. Stupid move.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

i agree 100%

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

Build outs in the industry add to your weight capacity so it's obvious you wouldn't in your situation! But your situation there is no comparison to a cargo van at diffrent weights .

[@sarahann530]

The Thor will fall apart long before the MB chassis

[@borandell9915]

@@sarahann530 For sure.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@sarahann530 only time will tel about the life of those engine and transmission

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

You told some guy at a Mercedes dealer the Sprinter is dead.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes sir and he was very worried too

[@stoneyvanwie6042]

@mercedessprinterdiy8556 it's not by far ! Lmao you unfortunately didn't give it a try. In other market the prices are 5k over Dodge.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 Did he call the police or the psychiatric hospital?

[@xboxcrazee]

He prob gets cranks like you all day

[@crossman20]

Very expensive rust bucket

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

a very sad ending to a awesome van soon electric all the way coming soon

[@crossman20]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 For shame! I've always enjoyed the outstanding engineering and superb handling of Sprinter vans for over 20 + years. And now a sad end indeed!

[@Healingmelody777]

It’s not the van is expensive but the $ is so cheap under JD!

[@minecraftbuilderify]

I don't think i have seen anything but a 2.1. im running a 11plate & the only issue i have is rust. Plenty of power Have to remember these vans are designed for couriers & business to transport. Everything else is an afterthought

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

I had a 2.1 liter and I was towing , and the engine started leaking antifreeze from the block from the atress

[@CharlieO77]

My man complaining he won’t get a detroit or cummins semi engine on a sprinter… bud if u wanna haul get a truck otherwise accept that is a van and not a semi or even a dually.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

very true but now i have a 30 liter sprinter and i can tow 5000 lb but this new 2.0 liter is sad news

[@CharlieO77]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 blame government and EPA for it. That’s the direction they’re going with smaller engines and more turbos to push more HP out of a tiny case. I hate it too but what’s there to do 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ritchierobinson4304]

OM651 2.1 4cyl diesel. More than capable in Sprinter upto 7000kg train weight. The newer 2.0 I can’t comment on.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@ritchierobinson4304 I had a 2.1 And I used it for towing and started leaking water through the engine because of the excessive Force. That's why I make a big deal about the small baby engines.

[@FamilyRide-kc8my]

Do not listen to this guy. I have had 3 sprinters. Two were 4cyl one was 6 cyl. The 4 is waaaay better. I do construction and two all the time and it loaded with tools and 2.0 is way way better. This guy is novice when it comes to sprinters.

[@Wantedfig1]

Elaborate a little bit more please 🙏

[@FamilyRide-kc8my]

@@Wantedfig1 The 3.0 had crazy turbo lag. bad fuel economy. The 2.1 and 2.0 will gibe you 22-25 mpg. 3.0 fives you 18at best. As far as towing they both the same. 3.0 is 188hp while 2.0 is 208hp. MB killed 3.0 due to poor performance and maintenance. If you test drive both you will go with 2.0. Towing with 2.1 and 2.0 is way better than 3.0 for me, better performance and MPG.

[@brianpate22]

I have a new 2024 and had the v6 before my new 4 cyl will drag the v6 across the parking lot

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@brianpate22 very true but what about the long life of the engine turbo and tranns?

[@TheCamper83]

The 2.0 liter twin turbo diesel engine and the 9 speed transmission together are worth more than an entire car from Mercedes with a gasoline 2.0 engine. Notice all of the coolers and cooling lines under the van when he films under the front. Mercedes Turbo diesel engines use EXTREME DUTY parts throughout when compared to a gasoline engine and the EXTREME DUTY parts (and engineering), extends to the transmission as well. The tuber is not educated concerning diesel/turbo diesel technology.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@TheCamper83 only time will tell how well this engine last with that small engine and oversized Trans, and 2 tubos is just making for trouble, hope everyone gets the extended warranty, because if I was buying one I would 👍👍

[@modelmaker007]

I tow with a 2014, 2.0 for 100k miles and no issues at all, the 9 speed tranny is smooth as silk and it knows when you have a trailer and adjusts for it. I hear the newest 2.0l has better power too. I will buy another one when the time comes. I was skeptical at first and torn between the two motors, i am glad i got the 2.0l. 25 mpg around town and 17mpg with a very heavy trailer 800 miles one way regularly, just saying.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

thanks for sharing , we need to learn from this very small engine and the stress that the transmission is taking to make up for the very small engine.

[@modelmaker007]

From what I know about the engine is that the early ones had minor issues. All resolved best I understand. But the best part is they designed it to be able to go up in hp, for when the phase out of the v6 came. The heavy duty chassis with dual axle gets the higher hp motor possibly others two, it has been a few years since I looked at them. If I didn't get the deal on my 2014 right before covid, I would get the new HD chassis with the dual axle. As it is, I have the worst case, a passenger van not cargo, I added air bags and a heavy sway bar in the back and it tows like a dream. I have the high roof and the heavy sway bar helps a lot on the passenger van, they have a very soft suspension for comfort. The air bags are used to level everything especially if I have cargo in the back and the trailer. I have been through east coast mountains and it did well, down shifted good up the hills, I occasionally over rid to a lower gear if going too slow. But not heating issues ever, knock on wood. Will it tow or climb a hill like a strait 6 Cummins, no but then again, pick the right tool for the job. For me the great mileage when empty was important and reasonable towing capacity for my needs. Granted like anyone would, sometimes I wish I had more power, but then there are costs for that, it is give and take. I would love to hear from someone's experience with the HD newer model and if they like it. One thing I highly recommend on the 4 cylinder is not to go the full 15k interval for oil changes, the tiny turbos are sensitive to old oil as they run very hot. I go 10K miles pr less for oil changes. I know they changed intervals several times. To me oil is cheap insurance.

[@toyota420xp]

Not the same engine

[@toyota420xp]

@@modelmaker007this is an all new engine not related to any previous 2.0

[@kolikoli7011]

2.0 is the best motor on this vans and they have the same tow capacity for 2.0l or 3.0l

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@kolikoli7011 Great information. But only time will tell how many miles you can put on a 2.0

[@oceanventure]

Things are going that way. Look at what Toyota has done. Only time will tell if the automakers will go back to bigger displayment engines. But I doubt it.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@oceanventure they are killing the USA work horse very sad

[@oceanventure]

If you really want there work horse. Then look no further than there old school 2003-2006 sprinter 5 cylinder diesel.

[@amirdoost8527]

3 L older moto also had 5000lb tow capacity. Sprinter never ment for towing.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes but v6 is much better of towing

[@robertoramirez3356]

It really can't be. Small engines is gonna break on you. Its a matter of time like those ecoboost And tow. Its gonna be expensive , isue. After isue. He is right. Our sprinter van went all the way to 569k. Finally, the engine seized up a good life. Rip, let me just tell it how it is. It's a honda on steroids

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

some of all the other viewers don't get our point about long ti me usage of these very small engine that only may last 200k

[@mattbod]

I think the top 2.1 is just as powerful as the old 3.0 v6 but will be higher stressed so fair point😊 As to cost cutting welcome to 21st century. In the 1980s and 1990s Mercs were the most over engineered cars in the world. That is all gone now though.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@mattbod Yes I agree with you and we have to learn to live with it but I will kick my v6 as long as I can

[@heretickle699]

This guy sounds like a Karen in Walmart making a scene because the cashier won’t accept his expired coupon for hot dogs

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

lol you are so right that's exactly what i sound 😂🤣

[@SuperiorFloors]

It's completely valid to disagree and seek a respectful dialogue. Sticking to the facts and maintaining a constructive conversation is important. Everyone's perspective is valuable, and it's crucial to communicate in a way that is considerate and avoids derogatory remarks. Let's focus on sharing insights and information that contribute to a meaningful discussion.

[@Newperson-x4q]

This guy sounds like every American should be saying when buying anything. This country is making all of our consumables so expensive to buy. $100,000 for a VAN!!!! With no seats!!!!!!

[@joniboulware1436]

Think about all the very heavy RVs that are based on the Sprinter chassis. I have heard the new ones are incredibly slow climbing hills.

[@dustincandoit]

😂bahahahaha

[@zom8863]

Drama queen. Too bad. I like his maintenance videos and was hoping he'd buy a new one to see to how to DIY my 2024. By the way- 65mph and the engine is around 1500 rpm. Doesn't seem like the engine is working too hard. I got 29 mpg on one trip and believe I would have got 30 if it were not for one big hill (1500 feet). AWD standard roof crew van.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

That’s pretty good gas mileage but my point is for towing since i tow 5000 lb

[@PezRacer]

The new engine has more torque and more hp than the old v6 and better fuel economy. Get on a Sprinter forum and do some research, the ‘23 and ‘24 owners are overall happy and impressed with 2.0L.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

but what about wen you hit Hight mileage and those turbos and transmission start giving you problems , only time will tell

[@geekazoid47]

MBZ is responding directly to customer demand. You are out of touch

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

they did not take us in consideration i think they forgot about us that have needs of towing

[@larrybooth2530]

I have a 2016 and it kicks ass, I love it!

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

v6 3.0 L ?

[@larrybooth2530]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 The 2.1 and I like it better than my 2024 GMC 2500 but the GMC is classy.

[@mofo9900]

My 3.0 mini Duramax in my Silverado will blow this thing out of the water

[@stranjac]

Also have a 4 cylinder from 2014 with over a million miles.

[@ControlYourWrld]

Gas or Diesel?

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

It has to be diesel

[@Artur-sw8er]

Definitely don't want diesel for my van conversion

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

diesel is more cost on maintenance for sure

[@spacewizard69r96]

Glad I’m never selling my 2015 NCV3 416 👌

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes keep it and take great care of it im doing the same , this new electric is trying to kill the diesel trucks

[@Mannaseoul]

i agree engine down sizing is not beautiful...

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

yes something will go wrong with transmission or motor terrible match

[@adibop1]

They do them in 190bhp and they do over 300k miles pulling heavy. I have one 😅

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Thanks for sharing the info

[@mnp3713]

I have an old Idi vw T4 2.4 I can tow 3000 pounds no problem 75 hp

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@mnp3713 that is a good speed 👌

[@seadbesic4442]

The HO has more torque and more HP then the 6 cylinder diesel plus better MPG I am averaging about 24 mpg… however DEF killing all them sprinter L’s 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Yes I agree DEF is what kills all diesel engines

[@Yannick8164]

Bruhh are you really comparing 2.0L diesel engine in a cargo van with a 2.0L gas engine in a sedan 😂😂😂

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@Yannick8164 no is just to show that a 2.0 is a small car engine and definitely I know diesel has more torque 👍

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@Yannick8164 2.0 l in a sprinter is a insult to consumers

[@Newperson-x4q]

Whoever buys these vans are pretty dumb. That van doesn't cost more to make than a diesel truck that is a 3/4 ton. The ones keeping these prices up are the vanlifers that make more than your average American through remote work in some tech company. I will keep my 2007 sprinter with a 3.0 turbo diesel. NO DEF Fuel at all.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

you have the best year and no DEF you have gold my friend

[@BellAir777]

Dude buy a Hyundai, you’ll look good in it

[@mister_ray]

What a BS video. The Twin turbo High output diesel will destroy the old V6 diesel. Not even close. The transmission and the steering are greatly improved.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

What about a overloaded transmission it will give huge problems soon this is poor engineering Mercedes had no choice but to do this

[@x97schmid]

Longevity and low cost repairs. If only they came with an LS lol

[@SuperiorFloors]

While the new twin-turbo high-output diesel engines, like the one in the 2023 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, offer advancements in horsepower and torque, there are some criticisms regarding the new 2.0-liter engine. Many reviews suggest that while the engine is feisty and comparable to the outgoing V-6 in terms of performance, it may not give the same level of confidence when the van is fully loaded or in demanding driving conditions. Additionally, concerns have been raised about the long-term reliability and durability of smaller engines in heavy-duty vehicles. It's important to consider these factors when comparing the new engine to the older, possibly more robust 6V diesel models. The improvements in transmission and steering are noted, but engine performance and reliability are crucial for the overall vehicle operation.

[@FamilyRide-kc8my]

The 3.0 is no good crazy turbo lag horrible MPG. Don’t get the 3.0.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

but the 3.0 is great for towing 5000 pounds but the 2.0l is only good for 3000 to 4000 pounds

[@peymanstd]

The only part you care about is the 2.0 and size? My suggestion is go back to 1960s. Those cars fit your knowledge of cars better.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

no is how long they will last with that baby engine

[@Arben.b]

This video is pointless.its not meant for towing..why cant you understand that..its a passenger van or a work van to carry tools.its meant to carry weight not tow.wanna tow buy a pickup.time will tell time will tell.of couse time will tell.everything breaks down eventually.especially when you use it for something its not meant to do

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@Arben.b my v6 is been towing. Pretty then 6000 lbs and has 110k with no problems, do that with a baby 2.0L engine and let's see

[@-vanveenjf7550]

I have a 3.6 2007 Sprinter with the annoying, pain in the @#ss, turbo hose issue. Cracking rubber etc. otherwise fine. :0 ;(

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@-vanveenjf7550 yes wen I had my 2006 I had to change the turbo hose three times

[@Truck12300]

I’ll take the shitty transit any day, it’s at least cheaper to live with…

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@Truck12300 That is. A great choice I agree

[@arminvankutonger7697]

You have 9 gears. Many gears = engine can be small.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

True but poor transmission and 2 screaming turbos, more things that are very expensive to fix

[@bnr32jason]

I dont know this video showed up on my feed, but this is the absolute worst most boomer take I've ever seen. The i4 has more power, more torque, better acceleration, smoother shifting. I own a V6 3.0 diesel 4x4 but i would trade it tomorrow for the 4cyl diesel if I could afford it.

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

only time will tell wen those 2.oL start given you problems do to the small engine

[@bnr32jason]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 small diesel engines have been used all over the world in trucks and vans for the last 20+ years. Time has already told, they are fine.

[@peterbuild817]

Nothing can compare with ford 3.2 l 5 cylindеr inline powerstroke diesel or 2.7 l 5 cylindеr inline diesel. mercedes sprinter❤ love that my vans..

[@Liimpy]

I just wanted to tow 3 bicycles, guess im out of luck 😢 🥲

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@Liimpy yes ruen to a For Dealer quickly 😭

[@jordanbey870]

It is done on purpose my friend..The gas industry is dying..it's over.. electric will take over soon..

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

that's what they are pushing it sucks i like my diesel

[@jordanbey870]

@@mercedessprinterdiy8556 Life as we know it is finished..done..Rent sky rocket, food, gas..

[@robp3431]

Hilarious video....and it's not leather, it's leather-ette

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

Supper leather is what it looks like 🤣

[@remisd]

Its designed for extra caro space in front by engine 😀

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@@remisd lol great point🤣

[@ericspecullaas2841]

I bet you that manager had a confused look on his face. You need to stop spreading false information. Engines these days are far more powerful than they have ever been. An old iron duke could not and will not keep up with a modern 1.8. For your sake, learn about engines and how they actually work

[@mercedessprinterdiy8556]

@ericspecullaas2841 very true but yhe life expectancy is a lot less the the bigger engine that I know, I don't need to study for that