You'll Be Surprised How Much Range the New 2024 Mercedes-Benz eSprinter Can Manage!

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@aaronuuu
@aaronuuu 2 күн бұрын
i work as a mailman and every time i see an EV FedEx or Amazon van i always get jealous EVs are perfect for these types of jobs
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 2 күн бұрын
You should be getting electric soon!
@chunkychuck
@chunkychuck 3 күн бұрын
I do love the color. I miss those 90s teals!
@steveallwine1443
@steveallwine1443 3 күн бұрын
I really like the idea of these rigs, in that ~250 miles of range is plenty to hop from one RV site to another RV campground and just charging off of the 240v, 30 amp campsite hook-up.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 3 күн бұрын
Except that campsites aren't equipped (electrically) to support pulling max amperage out of their site plugs all at the same time. They rely on things like people's AC cycling at random times each to spread out the loads to allow for as many plugs as they do.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 күн бұрын
@@Snerdles Yep. I tow a trailer with my Rivian, and many campgrounds are now putting in their rules "no EV charging."
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT Because entitled EV owners want other people to pay for their EVs (tax rebates) and their electricity.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 3 күн бұрын
@@jimjones-pz1tt should we get rid of the mortgage tax reduction too?
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 күн бұрын
@@jimjones-pz1tt LOL! Have you seen the government subsidies to oil companies? The US government pays far more of the total price of a gallon of gasoline than they subsidize to EV owners.
@Damidoo
@Damidoo 2 күн бұрын
I have an E Transit that I absolutely LOVE! The range on this is a lot better though the new E transit can fast charge much faster at 176kw. For local deliveries these vans are amazing. I would buy mine again in a second. I did 164 miles today and it cost me under $5 to fast charge it! Great video as always guys.
@underwaterdroneservices7292
@underwaterdroneservices7292 2 күн бұрын
You either did not or you are intentionally omitting a factor or you are simply not telling the truth. Please explain how you paid less than $5 for 164 miles of electric power. (How many kwh used and how much you paid per kwh?) I suspect that Damidoo cannot be trusted! Prove me wrong.
@Damidoo
@Damidoo 2 күн бұрын
@@underwaterdroneservices7292actually it was $1.13 for 28.1273 kWh at the ChargePoint on sunset. This particular station only charges $1.50/hr (for now as they are newish but I’ve heard it will be changing to a normal rate at some point in the future). With subscriptions to EVGo, EA, and EVCS that same 28 kWh would be somewhere between $6.75-$10. There are also a plethora of free level 2 and DC fast chargers in LA. Mostly I charge my 2022 E Transit at public ChargePoint level 2 chargers which are $1.50/hr for the first two hours then $2.50/ hr afterwards. A completely full charge has never cost me more than $16. I generally charge at EVCS for ¢.24/kwh or I look for free chargers. As I said I did 164 miles yesterday for under $5. People who are charging any EV without subscriptions to these companies are really over paying. I have a Tesla Model Y and a Hyundai Ioniq 5 as well and really have public charging dialed in. Granted Los Angeles is probably best use case for cheap available fast chargers. My point is I have an electric cargo van that I’ve put over 19k miles on in a year and I love it. It’s cheap to run, comfortable, strong, and easy. For me. I would most certainly buy this Mercedes van also though I think I’ll stick with Ford and get the new E Transit with an 89kwh pack.
@WhaddupImJohn
@WhaddupImJohn 2 күн бұрын
Damn people hating on success already
@Damidoo
@Damidoo 2 күн бұрын
@@underwaterdroneservices7292 sure there’s a ChargePoint dc fast charger by me that charges $1.50/hr. There are also free dc fast chargers and level 2 chargers around me in LA. Also with subscriptions to EA, EVGo, EVCS etc. the rates come down by a lot. I generally pay ¢.24/kwh with those subscriptions. Home charging is half that. So yes yesterday I used a ChargePoint dc fast charger and got 28.1723kw for a whopping $1.13. People that are using public chargers without subscriptions are doing it wrong and paying much more than they need to. I generally charge at level 2 ChargePoint chargers for $1.50/hr for the first two hours then $2.50/after that. I’ve never paid more than $13 fully charging at one. I have three EVs and public charge often. If you know what you are doing it’s cheap and easy. I’ve put 19,000 miles on my 22 E Transit in 13 months and I would buy it again in a split second. Everyone’s use case is different and for me this thing rips. I’d buy it again for sure. That being said I would also buy a new E Transit over this E Sprinter for a few reasons. Mainly it dc fast charges at 176kw max vs the Benz 115 and the lack of a pro power onboard for the Mercedes is lame. Even though the new Ford has an 89kwh pack vs the Benz 113kwh the faster dc charging on the Ford would be better for me personally. Super excited these vans even exist also. So from a real owner of one they kick ass and do serious work smoothly and super economically!
@ThomasWilliams-ee6li
@ThomasWilliams-ee6li 2 күн бұрын
If you consider the 5/year depreciation of a business vehicle, the fuel and maintenance costs of an ICE vehicle, and the possible EV incentives, the cost differences pretty much evaporate. What you're left with is a nicer vehicle for your business.
@Robert-cu9bm
@Robert-cu9bm 2 күн бұрын
You're left with a business vehicle that is highly restrictive. You're limited by range, charging, load.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 2 күн бұрын
@@Robert-cu9bm depends on your needs. If you are travelling hundreds of miles a day it is not for you. My company typically drives under 60 miles a day and at most 100 miles in a day.
@ThomasWilliams-ee6li
@ThomasWilliams-ee6li Күн бұрын
@@Robert-cu9bm We have three campuses in the Minneapolis area and run an internal delivery service. We also have 8 charging facilities on site. These vehicles are perfect for our needs. Actually, a loading dock height truck as an additional type would also be great. We're in the process of swapping out our ICE campus security vehicles.
@plmn93
@plmn93 3 күн бұрын
Love the high tech composite leaf springs, just like a 1984 Corvette.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 2 күн бұрын
It a work vehicle not a sports car
@Chilly383
@Chilly383 2 күн бұрын
And the Astro van
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 Күн бұрын
@@JD-yx7be So? Both vehicles have composite leaf springs. Can you name another?
@1guyin10
@1guyin10 2 күн бұрын
Some of the last mile vans are covering less than 100 miles per day. These electric vans make a lot of sense for that application. If you are an electrician driving all over for service calls the electric vans simply won't get it done. It's good that there is an option.
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 2 күн бұрын
I have no doubt that the throttle is programmed to be gentle. Companies don't want delivery guys driving them hard, and they get better economy by limiting the throttle. I really like the color.
@stefanghica
@stefanghica 3 күн бұрын
I love Nathan! I hope with the move to Cali is not going to take him off the channels! you're cool Andre!
@thebigdoghimself
@thebigdoghimself 3 күн бұрын
If you own a business that only requires 150 or so miles of travel per day, this would be perfect. You could make up that 15k cost just In gas savings in one year.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 3 күн бұрын
If you drove like 50k miles in a year sure, but I suspect most people or small businesses likely drive considerably less for the types of driving this would be suited for.
@devengudinas1649
@devengudinas1649 3 күн бұрын
Electricity costs money also
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
Ask Hertz how much money they lost maintaining a fleet of EVs.
@stgeorgee
@stgeorgee 3 күн бұрын
@@devengudinas1649it cost less than gas. Didn’t you get the memo?
@path4061
@path4061 3 күн бұрын
@@jimjones-pz1tt The majority of Hertz's loss was from depreciation of the assets. They stupidly bought a crap ton of Teslas (and other EVs) right when prices were at the peak. Granted, if they bought the same number of ICE vehicles at that time, they would have had a loss still - just a smaller loss as the ICE weren't inflated in price as much and didn't depreciate as fast.
@driftlessheights6177
@driftlessheights6177 2 күн бұрын
Nice thing is that it is a front charge location. Love that. Wish Brightdrop would move theirs. Big thing will be when these get the new log range batteries (may be next year???) . Then making an RV out of it will be practical. Cant wait!
@andrewvercillo7584
@andrewvercillo7584 3 күн бұрын
Max Regen is the only way to go!! Learn to drive an EV properly! This is the problem with society. We can’t change. This is the greatest change in our lifetimes! EVs are amazing. It’s worth extra $15k. Will pay for itself in lack of maintenance
@LukeEdward
@LukeEdward 3 күн бұрын
Nathan & Andre, great job.
@Bum_Hip
@Bum_Hip 3 күн бұрын
Make ‘em do that solar panel recharge test Roman. That sounds cool.
@christianglaude6659
@christianglaude6659 3 күн бұрын
Hey, a digital rearview mirror....what the cyber truck doesn't have 🤭
@rickbullock4331
@rickbullock4331 3 күн бұрын
I was wondering if Mercedes has a window passenger model of this van?
@EuvCharging
@EuvCharging 3 күн бұрын
I hope they do a small version, same range , cool video guys
@murdoch9106
@murdoch9106 3 күн бұрын
I have not checked but if not already there should be several sizes to choose from, low and high roof, and different lengths, might even be a bigger version with dual heavy duty rears, not totally uncommon on vans like this.
@ranig2848
@ranig2848 3 күн бұрын
Amazon is deploying solar on warehouse roofs and deploying EV vans anywhere it can. It’s saving it hHUNDREDS of millions of dollars a year (even when vans are more expensive) and the vans also have less downtime for maintenance so they need less vans. The bottom line is that as more of these are deployed and company who would NOT have EV vans will be in a major disadvantage and would eventually lose business and if their business is expediting/delivery, won’t be able to compete and will go bankrupt. For businesses, EVs are not just the future - it’s now. The transition is happening NOW.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 2 күн бұрын
i feel like something big is being omitted or overlooked about what u said. hmm
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 2 күн бұрын
The future is electric. PURE ELECTRIC. Not hydrogen or hybrid.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 2 күн бұрын
@@rickjames5998 like what?
@porcelainthunder2213
@porcelainthunder2213 4 сағат бұрын
Those panels and the charging equipment come out to millions of dollars. The transformers for large charging setups cost millions. The significant price difference, plus replacement batteries cost a small fortune, too. They ain’t saving ANYTHING going electric. Plus, this is a Sprinter. It’s going to be a rust pile in 5 years.
@bvon336
@bvon336 3 күн бұрын
No chasis cab yet though correct? I’d be in the market if that was an available with a service body.
@drnick40
@drnick40 2 күн бұрын
You hit it straight Nathen. Choice!
@josephcullen2512
@josephcullen2512 Күн бұрын
I think I've seen manufacturers put loads like this in the back of vans on other channels too. Maybe they do it to make the ride better
@dustinizard2524
@dustinizard2524 Күн бұрын
Nathen .. I can’t believe you’re going to California with the the views you have about vehicles, I sure wish you were coming to Texas. It would make a lot more sense. Good luck 🍀
@richardwolf6269
@richardwolf6269 Күн бұрын
Texas sucks!
@Nathans_Margarita_Salt
@Nathans_Margarita_Salt 3 күн бұрын
I've taken my E Transit camping and it has literally half the range of these vans. Put some WildPeak AT3Ws on and it funny enough didn't even affect my efficiency at all, it's just always pretty bad on the highway.
@fifthcircle1
@fifthcircle1 3 күн бұрын
Pushing a box into 70mph wind is hard.
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
Something has affected your brain that had the effect of you buying an EV.
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 3 күн бұрын
Try dropping your speed to 55mph on the highway
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 2 күн бұрын
@@jimjones-pz1tt just ad hominem attacks nothing of substance to argue
@Damidoo
@Damidoo 2 күн бұрын
@@Nathans_Margarita_Salt yeah I’ve found that 81mph chugs range faster than 3000lbs of cargo for sure. I’ll tell you in LA stop and go traffic the range is awesome haha
@holdthebeans
@holdthebeans 3 күн бұрын
Better rear view mirror than a Cybertruck!
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
Everything is better than Cybertruck, including a colonoscopy.
@macbook802
@macbook802 3 күн бұрын
And better looking.
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 2 күн бұрын
Cheers guys
@murdoch9106
@murdoch9106 3 күн бұрын
In Europe that fuel cost would be double... ^^ I love these vans, I dont know why, but I have always loved vans like this... since I was a kid :D Guess it make sense, I also love big semi trucks. I remember Iveco Turbo Daily, massive Dually vans just like this that I'd see do deliveries, they looked so powerful and mean in the 90's here... I think they kinda started the trend of these XXL vans actually, I dont remember other companies doing it before them but I could be off. VW and others had vans ofc but the oversized ones I think is a trend that might have started with the Turbo Daily's. Also, when I get packages delivered home its actually in much smaller vans usually, we got a fairly new company here that only do electric vehicles and they are more VW Caddy sized things. Some of the drivers ruin the hole silent electric car trick by showing up in the neighborhood blasting music at 7 or 8 pm... not great! xD
@CajunShrek
@CajunShrek Күн бұрын
Range extender be good or hybrid setup for rural carriers
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 2 күн бұрын
It's a good van
@Bikerbug2020
@Bikerbug2020 3 күн бұрын
Guess I may have missed it, what happened to Andrei’s Buhanka Van?
@dmc9791
@dmc9791 2 күн бұрын
cant get it passed on emissions
@wolfman9999999
@wolfman9999999 Күн бұрын
I'm with Andre. I'd love to convert one of these into a Class B RV. The vanlife thing has been a very real call to just simply enjoy a nomadic lifestyle and just be in a perpetual state of exploration. I for one am 107% DONE with ICE powered vehicles. 276 mile range (from 100% of course) is acceptable so long as there isn't some major range loss when it's set up as an RV. I'd love to get my hands on one just to see how it would handle my slow and chill in the right lane driving style for range. Our Ioniq 5 has seen 265 miles driven with the GOM indicating another 60 miles of range remaining on our long distance trips. Could this see the 300 mile mark given the same treatment?
@pixelfairy
@pixelfairy 17 сағат бұрын
There would b major range loss. Maybe you could add some batteries while doing the conversion
@wolfman9999999
@wolfman9999999 16 сағат бұрын
@pixelfairy Possibly. I would intend on sitting with someone smarter than me to vet out what I want to do.
@e-care-books9867
@e-care-books9867 Күн бұрын
Lol. Geekin' out (in a good way). 😂
@webdbbt
@webdbbt 3 күн бұрын
I love my 4x4 diesel sprinter adventure van. I would absolutely trade it for an eSprinter IF it had a little more range and faster level 2 charging. MB is supposed to release a new version of the eSprinter for the 2027 model year.
@Damidoo
@Damidoo 2 күн бұрын
@@webdbbt ya I’m waiting for an awd with a little more range before I make one into a camper 🤘🏼⚡️
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 Күн бұрын
@@Damidoo More payload would also help accommodate the weight of RV appliances and furnishings. MB said the next version would be more suitable for camper conversions. I like the idea of doing a lightweight conversion with this one instead of waiting.
@JakeRichardsong
@JakeRichardsong Күн бұрын
Fossil fuels are cooking the planet and diesel exhaust is toxic to humans.
@jnmaher1967
@jnmaher1967 3 күн бұрын
TFL going to their favorite sandwich shop.
@MDillonEV
@MDillonEV 2 күн бұрын
17mpg is probably optimistic. More like 12-14. That's a big percentage difference.
@Nick-im3sm
@Nick-im3sm 2 күн бұрын
My 3.0 diesel v6 sprinter averaged 17-18 depending mostly on the season, so that's probably quite accurate if not slightly conservative. Sprinters are now a 4 cylinder diesel only if not the E version. They get pretty good mileage for the size of the vehicle.
@MDillonEV
@MDillonEV 2 күн бұрын
@@Nick-im3sm nice. We had a sprinter class c with the 3.0 and 14 was tops on highway.
@Nick-im3sm
@Nick-im3sm 2 күн бұрын
@@MDillonEV Ahh class C is probably why. Mine was just a van. Adding an RV box on the back kills fuel mileage on anything really.
@wolfman9999999
@wolfman9999999 Күн бұрын
@@Nick-im3sm Given the reputation that their modern diesels have as of late, I'd be seriously concerned about that little 2.0L four cylinder engine having anything close to a long lifespan pushing all that van around.
@wolfman9999999
@wolfman9999999 Күн бұрын
@@Nick-im3sm This would need to be a class B. Those keep the "house" inside the original body dimensions
@TokyoOlympics2020
@TokyoOlympics2020 2 күн бұрын
What range did you get?
@arielrommelbriones8948
@arielrommelbriones8948 3 күн бұрын
This looks like a cool alternative with the turbo diesel but since there so much space for a drunk hopefully they made a e sprinter with a drunk for personal use
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 2 күн бұрын
A drunk?
@TroySavary
@TroySavary Күн бұрын
​@@DigikidthevoiceofreasonMake my drunk for personal use a redhead with cute freckles.
@ferkdizzle
@ferkdizzle 3 күн бұрын
I love that color!
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 2 күн бұрын
Overall this is a pretty nice van. Not overly attractive, but not a cheap piece of junk either. I really like how quiet it is overall going down the road. Will I be buying one? That’s a hard NO! Especially in that color. They had a sparkly metallic root beer brown a few years ago that I really liked though.
@michaelmeyers1827
@michaelmeyers1827 3 күн бұрын
I paid 3:24 a gallon in Schuyler nebraska
@richardwolf6269
@richardwolf6269 Күн бұрын
You guys need to step back from the all you can eat buffets! You’ll thank me later!
@bugman687
@bugman687 3 күн бұрын
Andrea 63 we didn't know that
@maximebintz4795
@maximebintz4795 3 күн бұрын
too early for 1080p, my bad :)
@DrKellieOwczarczak
@DrKellieOwczarczak 2 күн бұрын
That color is beautiful. Did I see a De Dion axle on that thing? Anyway, I could see that being a potential weekend overlander. What I think would be cool though is a cutaway version with a flatbed as a farm truck. ;)
@AutoReport1
@AutoReport1 3 күн бұрын
Build your hub at the top of a hill, load up full, drive back empty.
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 күн бұрын
EVan Bookdock Challenge.
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 3 күн бұрын
I think that color is beautiful; coincidentally that is the color of my 2024 diesel. I average 28.1 according to Fuelly, by the way.
@timgurr1876
@timgurr1876 2 күн бұрын
This really sounded like an infomercial to me. Seems like you are trying to sell the van on its shortcomings. Just my opinion (perhaps that was not your intent, but….). This definitely seems like Mercedes is catering this to fleets. I considered a Sprinter some 7 years ago as a family/daily driving vehicle. They do ride and handle well. I test drove a 6 cylinder diesel. Very nice performance. Unfortunately, at that time they were are designed for family friendly safety features along with a good sounding radio system. And the height made it impossible to park in my garage. Lots of passenger seats but not very comfortable. I don’t understand the push towards noisy 4 cylinder engines that are turbo charged other than fuel economy. What is the towing capacity of the EV version?
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 2 күн бұрын
Definitely a fleet vehicle. All the people wanting EV cargo vans to convert into camper vans are just too early. These early EV cargo vans are meant to be local fleet vehicles. And at that, they'll do great.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 2 күн бұрын
in love that color but lets face it, a cargo can should and usually will only be like white, black, grey. An EV? good for around town, mebe but not from port to town. Or county to county
@wolfman9999999
@wolfman9999999 Күн бұрын
I have six cross country EV trips under my belt. You still have to plan your trip, but it's otherwise easily done.
@legostud
@legostud 3 күн бұрын
One question to think about is how many miles per day. It’s less than 10 hours to charge if you drive fewer miles.
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 2 күн бұрын
EVs in the long run are the cheapest it's just a fact guys
@Drucio1
@Drucio1 2 күн бұрын
just tack on a solar panel on top... Infinite power. Just super slow tho hahaha
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 2 күн бұрын
I saw a Ford eTransit the other day with solar panels on the roof! Looked like it might have been a "triple stack" so they could unfold to be an awning on either side tripling the amount of power input versus just covering the roof; but of course can only charge while parked with plenty of room to the sides that way.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 Күн бұрын
Unfortunately the closed source firmware on the van probably wouldn't allow that. Stupid proprietary designs
@wolfman9999999
@wolfman9999999 Күн бұрын
This is actually in my mind for my desired build. All systems basically tap from the high voltage battery, and I'd want the highest power/efficiency panels money can buy on every available inch of the roof space beyond what's needed for rooftop heat pump. Play it right, and you could get small range boosts and trickle charging ability to at least offset the draw from the "house". If one is efficient enough, maybe even put some back in the pack for driving back out to civilization.
@febrianadji5758
@febrianadji5758 2 күн бұрын
Prolly not for that serious overlander But I could see this be used as usable living space It's $100k expensive but still an option for some people
@xgaustinxg3413
@xgaustinxg3413 3 күн бұрын
STOP PUTTING THE CHARGER IN THE NOSE!!! BrightDrop get's it right 110%. More and more companies have safety standards that require people to back into parking spaces. As someone who designs and engineers that infrastructure these vans (Sprinter & E-Transit) make it difficult to meet their safety standard and design infrastructure.
@MediaDevice01
@MediaDevice01 3 күн бұрын
Absolute hate driving nose first to plug in my Bolt. I find myself backing in and stretching the cable to the front😅, which is equally unsafe. But atleast collision liability decreases with my method.
@xgaustinxg3413
@xgaustinxg3413 3 күн бұрын
@@MediaDevice01 multiple studies have been done to show that backing in to parking stalls is safer which is why I do the same on my bolt.
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 күн бұрын
The new E transit puts it in the signal light area passenger side for a Tesla charger use
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 күн бұрын
@@arenjay3278 No it doesn't. It's still in the nose. At least in the 2024, and Ford hasn't made any announcement about the 2025 yet.
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 3 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT even comes in three software modes that release more HP. Eco 100hp normal 150 HP and Sport 210+ HP. With eoth r the 68 or 89 kWh battery.
@Cedarshoot1966
@Cedarshoot1966 2 күн бұрын
Sorry guys, but cows aren’t endangered and there’s no clean diesel 🤷🏻‍♂️
@ryanreeves70
@ryanreeves70 Күн бұрын
Tesla van soon folks.
@user-bj8qy6fk2x
@user-bj8qy6fk2x 3 күн бұрын
Did you guys mention how much a 113kwh charge would cost where you live? Where I live electricity costs $0.085/kwh. That's $9.61. My gas powered truck costs me $6.00 per day to go to work. Seems like you guys are intentionally leaving out just how cheap electricity is compared to gas or diesel.
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 күн бұрын
You have dead cheap electricity then. It's not that cheap in many areas, especially urban areas where an EV works best. Out where they are they still save on fuel costs by driving an EV, but I believe their electricity is 3-4x what you pay, and public chargers can approach gasoline in cost.
@stgeorgee
@stgeorgee 3 күн бұрын
You don’t do math good. Let do some math, which will undoubtedly exceed your ability. If your range is 150 miles, in your electric van and it cost $9.61 to fully charge (which you never do), then it would cost you 0.15 per mile. If my daily round trip is 50 miles, that works out to $7.50. The ICE version would cost (assuming 15MPG and gas is $3.40p/g), would cost you over $11.33. There is no scenario where ICE is cheaper. So it seems you are math illiterate and a liar.
@matt45540
@matt45540 3 күн бұрын
Price is range from like .08 to 80 cents in the US. It's still generally cheaper, but then people will complain they made electricity look better by using cheaper rates... Even though the averaged the diesel price
@ikocheratcr
@ikocheratcr 3 күн бұрын
if you electricity costs 0.085 $/kWh, and have a daily cost of $6.00, in this van you could drive like 170mi for that money (6.00/.085 = 70kWh ; 110kWh = 270mi => 70/110*270 = 170) How much you drive on a daily basis? 170mi?
@user-bj8qy6fk2x
@user-bj8qy6fk2x Күн бұрын
@@ikocheratcrGasoline costs $5.61/ gallon where I live and diesel is more expensive. I have a short drive to work and can make a tank last almost 3 weeks in my truck (f150). The fillup ranges between $130-$160. That's several months worth of electricity. But most electric vehicles that have the capability that i want/need are $100k+. So I will struggle on till my truck rusts away to nothing and maybe there will be low mileage/cost used electrics available at that time.
@anajay78
@anajay78 2 күн бұрын
No thanks
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 2 күн бұрын
Keep paying the price then
@michaelbabchuk5639
@michaelbabchuk5639 Күн бұрын
Not good electric van. It's big problem.
@Ryanstuff
@Ryanstuff 2 күн бұрын
So it's just a lazy mod.
@ricko6514
@ricko6514 2 күн бұрын
i think that is the worst spot to put the charging port on. Small front crash and there goes it.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 2 күн бұрын
It's up high, above and behind the bumper. Any crash serious enough to seriously damage that charge port would have put an ICE van completely out of commission.
@ricko6514
@ricko6514 19 сағат бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT i dont know, i mean i live in texas, most vehicles here are big trucks. They can easily damage the charging port if they hit the rear end of a pickup truck, maybe even an SUV. Like a USB-C charger - just takes a broken end to prevent you from charging your phone. I mean your phone works, but cant charge it anymore. how much more is it to replace that plug than say a radiator on an ICE you know.
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 2 күн бұрын
If I had the cash I would get hydrogen 😂
@frankandersstuen1464
@frankandersstuen1464 3 күн бұрын
10min to fill diesel? 🤣🤣
@matt45540
@matt45540 3 күн бұрын
You have to stop at a gas station to fill up a diesel. Most electric vehicles never need to stop because they charge when they're parked at home. And when you add in the fact your employees aren't getting paid to go to the gas station...
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 Күн бұрын
​@@matt45540and don't forget they have to manage a billing system for employees to buy gas with that they them have to audit. Eliminating that alone will save them thousands.
@angloblaxon
@angloblaxon 2 күн бұрын
Convert it. Campsites have free charging haha
@jeffhaddox2239
@jeffhaddox2239 3 күн бұрын
It must be a Colorado thing the necessity of heated steering wheels. I’ve certainly burned my hands on hot steering wheels I’ve never heard of an incident of frostbite from a cold one 😂
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 күн бұрын
A heated wheel would be nice when it's -15f or cooler so you can drive without gloves.
@stgeorgee
@stgeorgee 3 күн бұрын
Heated steering wheels have been a thing for over 50 years. You should catch up with current events
@jeffhaddox2239
@jeffhaddox2239 3 күн бұрын
@@stgeorgee man up and buy some gloves 🧤
@yayinternets
@yayinternets 2 күн бұрын
@@jeffhaddox2239Man up and go without AC, a dishwasher, a stove, microwave, shoes, the internet, TV, and a refrigerator. Real men don’t need ANY comforts of modern society.
@jeffhaddox2239
@jeffhaddox2239 2 күн бұрын
You snowflakes are sure touchy about your heated steering wheels, I didn’t realize so many of you were getting your tongues stuck on the steering wheels in the winter🤣 it seems to be greatly under reported, and soon the NTSB will regulate it as mandatory on all vehicles further driving up new car prices🤣
@dmytromural
@dmytromural 3 күн бұрын
Do host follow the topics they raised? At least to 2 topics were not finished. So anoying. Closed video in the middle.
@rcpmac
@rcpmac 23 сағат бұрын
This review was written edited and produced done by A D H D anonymous. Calculates diesel cost and proceeds to review the interior before finishing the comparison to EV costs. Andre seldom makes actual contributions to content on this channel. He just reacts to stuff in an uninformative way.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 күн бұрын
That rear view "mirror" camera view is _TERRIBLE_! Andre isn't short, and he wasn't right next to the vehicle, and you could just see the top of his head and his hands. A whole freaking Ford Edge could be invisible if it was stopped behind you at a stop light!
@adamnader3880
@adamnader3880 3 күн бұрын
Why not a hybrid diesel? Just saying.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 3 күн бұрын
Why a hybrid diesel? The overwhelming majority of delivery/service vans drive well under 150 miles a day. Pure electric saves a ton of money, with zero ICE maintenance. Sure, if you want to use one as a camper van, you don't want pure electric due to limited range and relatively bad charge curve, but those don't matter to fleets of local delivery/service companies. Geek Squad doesn't put >150 miles on their vans per day, Amazon doesn't put >150 miles on their vans per day, my local plumber doesn't put >150 miles on his vans per day.
@stgeorgee
@stgeorgee 3 күн бұрын
Why ask such a stupid question? Just saying
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 3 күн бұрын
I think you will see it with ram promaster first
@adamnader3880
@adamnader3880 2 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYTI have a sprinter diesel and a Prius, they are both great, just saying what if they combined it. Get great city driving and great highway miles.
@insomniac2446
@insomniac2446 3 күн бұрын
I can’t see this costing Mercedes-Benz more then 30ish k to make this thing.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 3 күн бұрын
It is not 1994 anymore
@insomniac2446
@insomniac2446 3 күн бұрын
@@JD-yx7be so. Things aren’t that expensive for manufacturing. It’s the end user that suffers. Here I’ll give you an example. A bag of 50lb flour costs 14.50-17$ yet the bakery or store will charge anywhere from 5-8$ for a Loaf of bread A bag of flour can get you probably around 40-60 loafs probably more Now tell me why you think it’s not 1994 lmao. Greed is very different than cost its self. 71k for this thing is a rip off they didn’t even create a new product just slapped a battery with a shitty motor and called it a day. In 1994 you would have bought a car well that runs probably still till this day. Today for an example a hummer ev can’t last more than 4 years and has tech that’s so old a Tesla looks like it’s something from star wars.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 3 күн бұрын
@@insomniac2446 a bakery has to pay for the rent, employees, taxes, utilities
@Gnosticware
@Gnosticware 3 күн бұрын
Nathan needs to stop acting so goofy, it's distracting. Don't try to entertain folks, it's bad acting, just be yourselves, or a cleaned up version at least
@NathanDAdlen
@NathanDAdlen 2 күн бұрын
No
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 2 күн бұрын
Wrong. Humor is a necessity. If you don’t like it, you can find another channel that fits your lack of humor.
@yayinternets
@yayinternets 2 күн бұрын
This is KZbin, not CSPAN.
@Gnosticware
@Gnosticware 2 күн бұрын
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason Duh obviously, the problem is it's not funny. The best two are Anton and Roman, Nathan just acts silly and I don't find it funny, but maybe you have a stupid sense of humor.
@Gnosticware
@Gnosticware 2 күн бұрын
@@NathanDAdlen OK, don't mean to offend by the way, just giving honest feedback not to try to hard.
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey 3 күн бұрын
Worst color I've even seen on a vehicle.
@yayinternets
@yayinternets 2 күн бұрын
Nah. I’m tired of seeing black, white, and grey everything. It’s nice to see something more fun for once.
@hongshi8251
@hongshi8251 2 күн бұрын
Electric will cost you as much as gasoline or diesel in this case.
@WildernessGuyBC
@WildernessGuyBC 2 күн бұрын
Show your work
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 2 күн бұрын
No, it won't. Around here, the cheapest diesel is $3.79. Commercial purchasers who pay per-mile taxes on their vehicles can buy at some stations 39 cents cheaper. (The "PUC rate") So we'll call it $3.40, even though I can't find that any of the qualifying diesel stations are that low. A 4-cylinder turbodiesel Sprinter averages 12-15 MPG city/highway. Let's assume the best case, 15 MPG. To drive a diesel Sprinter 230 miles would take 15.33 gallons of gas, costing $52.12 The eSprinter goes 230 miles on a charge highway, on a 113 kWh battery pack. At the expensive Electrify America rate of $0.56/kWh, fully recharging on a rapid charger would indeed be more at $63.28. But that's comparing the best case/cheapest fuel diesel to the worst case/most expensive electric. (And smaller fleets/individual operators won't see the PUC diesel savings.) Most fleets would charge overnight. Paying my utility's "off peak" overnight rate of _$0.05/kWh_ that full-recharge cost would be only $5.65 - one-tenth the price of refueling the diesel. And that's assuming "best case for the diesel, worse case for the electric" all-highway driving. Make most of the driving in the city (as a delivery van would,) and the gap widens even more. Drive 25,000 miles per year, and the diesel will cost $5,628.96 per year, while the electric charged overnight only $610.2 per year. The upfront price difference will be made up solely in fuel savings in 3 years. Add in maintenance savings, and it's even better. Again, make it mostly city driving, and the price difference could be made up in 1-2 years.
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 2 күн бұрын
Camper van
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
Nathan would buy a fleet of these electric vans for his business. Hertz is dumping their fleet of EVs due to HIGH MAINTENANCE COSTS and LOW RESALE VALUES, but what do they know? 🤣🤣🤣 Nathan subscribes to the Gavin Newsom School of Economics and truly belongs in California.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 3 күн бұрын
The high maintenance cost is a tesla thing not a EV in general thing. Can you break down the cost of an ev to repair?
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
@@JD-yx7be I don't own a self-immolating virtue signal. All I know s Hertz has their own mechanics and their own body shops and the maintenance and repair was outrageous. Hertz isn't paying the retail $125 per hour for labor. The other huge cost which you failed to mention is residual value. EVs depreciate like crazy.
@matt45540
@matt45540 3 күн бұрын
​@@jimjones-pz1ttHertz subcontracts out almost everything, Tesla's bought the most expensive to repair Ev there is, you have confirmation bias you're looking for things to confirm what you want. They don't work for everyone, you don't have to have one
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
@@matt45540 Confirmation bias? I'm just reading what the Hertz CEO said about buying, operating and getting rid of Teslas. As for confirmation bias, look to the Hertz CEO. He had an eco-weeine, woke bias and bought thousands of Teslas without doing enough research on the total costs involved. The idiot thought he was going to save the planet and virtue signal and lost his company a ton of money.
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
@@matt45540 Hertz hires its own mechanics. What's wrong with you?
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
EVs are not environmentally responsible unless they are charged only by solar, wind and hydro.
@stgeorgee
@stgeorgee 3 күн бұрын
A whole bunch of lies, in your magat propganda.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 3 күн бұрын
what are the numbers per mile driven on coal or natural gas?
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 3 күн бұрын
​@@JD-yx7be 19.5% coal, 39.8% natural gas, and 18.2% nuclear. Only 21.5% of the electricity in the U.S. comes from renewable sources. Your EV is a filthy polluter and you're a hypocrite.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 2 күн бұрын
Multiple studies have shown that charging an EV on a power grid fed solely by coal power is still a cleaner way to turn fossil fuels into motion than gasoline or diesel. Because large-scale industrial electricity generation is far more efficient and cleaner per kWh generated than small internal combustion engines are. And as the power grid gets cleaner, so do the EVs, unlike fossil fuel vehicles.
@jimjones-pz1tt
@jimjones-pz1tt 2 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT Cite just one study. Go ahead. Show me or stop lying.
@FlyingAceAV8B
@FlyingAceAV8B Күн бұрын
Great idea for local stuff for sure. Horrible idea as a family travel van.
@andrewvercillo7584
@andrewvercillo7584 3 күн бұрын
Max Regen is the only way to go!! Learn to drive an EV properly! This is the problem with society. We can’t change. This is the greatest change in our lifetimes! EVs are amazing. It’s worth extra $15k. Will pay for itself in lack of maintenance
@yayinternets
@yayinternets 2 күн бұрын
One pedal driving is the best. I don't even own an EV.. yet.
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