EPIC SPOKE.. Fortnite Community Reacts to Continued Old Battle Passes Return Discussion | Twitter/X

[@Clen-]

Thanks for watching everyone! Not sure when this topic is going to end.. BUT NOT YET! Big stream/video tomorrow debating the topic!

[@chrisotto2766]

Looking forward to it. I recently have been debating the topic of exclusivity and rarity being part of the creative differences between Sweeny and Mustard. Seems strange it's all disappearing and outdated now.

[@Cdawg-c7o]

I believe you genuinely don’t care. From my perspective, I understand why you feel that you don’t care about old cosmetics and it’s not the end of the world. For me, I want those cosmetics because I think they are much better than the new stuff. It’s about the nostalgia, the love for these skins cause I played back then and grew up wanting them back when they were common. It’s nothing to do with rarity, I don’t think that’s important. I do also understand what you mean about it being unethical to bring it back. I do think since it’s their game and they can do whatever they want as stipulated in their EULA and terms and conditions that we all signed when we got this game they can technically do whatever they want. I also think if they gave out an apology, and maybe gave a unique skin for tier 100 skins for ogs, or refunded some vbucks or something it would be okay.

[@chrisotto2766]

@Cdawg-c7o I personally think one way to do it would be to offset the time the OGs put in with the amount of money we pay. Hate to say it but that's how most games work. Buy xp upgrades and such. But if they do a 1 month OG season then only include 1 skin and other cosmetics from the original battle pass and charge the 950. It would also allow them to loop the OG season for at least 5 years worth of battlepasses dedicated to a single skin each month. I don't know my ch1 BP at all but say ch2 s2 was doing it. One pass for meowscles, then next time around a pass for Midas, and so on. Only way to somewhat make up for the time people put in. And maybe leave out superstyles from previous years if that was an OG thing. I started in chp 2.

[@unknowncomrade5023]

I remember I told someone on X that they should of played back in the day and he said "I hope u get hacked" 3 days later nothings happened just shows how salty new gens are

[@AmericanTrucker23]

your are the most epic glazing person ive ever seen people would quit because they spent REAL MONEY on skins that yea are just cosmetics BUT they said they would ne Exclusive newgens are ruining this game man

[@RiotLyfe]

I think the issue with old battle passes are collabs. Characters like Superman, Storm, Doom Guy, Geralt, Aquaman, Raven, etc. are skins that don't have a shop counterpart which stings for those who are fans and didn't play until after that chapter or season. I like the new method of the whole 18 month period of Maybe returning, but I feel like the old ones could literally be sold as a bundle if given permission by their individual IP holder and simply keep the secret styles exclusive to those who played.

[@unknowncomrade5023]

@@RiotLyfe but those are licensed ips

[@RiotLyfe]

@unknowncomrade5023 hence why I said get permission from the license holders

[@unknowncomrade5023]

@@RiotLyfe at this point give it a rest the fight is over all I hear ohh it's coming back common chap 2 map is back where the bps at?

[@PastaaFN]

@@unknowncomrade5023 you're funny when saying this but I would pay an arm and leg to see your reaction when they actually do release old battle pass skins. Ik you are a gatekeeper and when Clen said about "I got the skin, you don't" that's literally you rn with the comments like ok I got Evie and Spider Gwen I wouldn't be bothered with them returning back but people like you aren't. Epic Games dgaf about your feelings if og battle passes return they only want profit. Like dude your 28 years old, lives in your mother's basement eating 10 big mac's and arguing over pixels like an 8 year old like start a family my guy 💀

[@Alan2ez]

agree putting something like darth vader in the battlepass was fowl

[@Bonnie39]

Epic Games stating that battle pass cosmetics won't return back in August was specifically talking about bringing back individual items from the pass into the item shop, not the entire pass. If they find a semi-questionable way of bringing back Chapter 1 battle passes, I'm 100% sure they will since their main goal lately has been maximizing profit. I personally don't care if newgen players get the same OG cosmetics as me, I never use 90% of them anyway. Epic could at the very least add a badge to the icon of the OG items in the locker for players who unlocked them when they were resold as a sort of non-OG watermark or something?

[@Therapist_Demoman]

They also said those battlepasses AND their items were exclusive,

[@TheDankBoii1243]

​@@Therapist_DemomanIt is stated in the fine print they are EXCLUSIVE to their Respective SEASONS, They are bringing back said SEASONS anything can happen with that loophole

[@Therapist_Demoman]

@@TheDankBoii1243 not just seasons, also specific DATES Stop trying tk figure out loopholes and just admit they are exclusive.

[@Kxng_Fluxy]

they have not been maximizing profits the item shops are trash and they can easily bring back old collabs but they choose not to

[@TheDankBoii1243]

​@@Therapist_DemomanClearly they aren't as exclusive as you think they are if there's even a debate about it and multiple occasions of EXCLUSIVE items coming back whether by accident or not

[@christiang1674]

This announcement was from a blogpost 4 months ago. They haven’t addressed the rumors that’s been going on for the last 2-3 weeks

[@willg1088]

Those are not rumors. Just fans hyping stuff and creating their own happiness like arcane or kratos returning lol

[@christiang1674]

It’s literally a rumor bro lol also those are not exclusive they can come back but due to licensing they haven’t

[@DJSupernova07]

Idk I think the best thing they should do is bring it back as that will also get rid of two of the biggest problems with Fortnite hacking and selling accounts which is imo one of the best thing that could happen as that will get rid of people worrying over their accounts getting hacked over old cosmetics.

[@Dante_Ironclaw]

the only thing i wish they would do, if you own an older pass, let you switch between the current pass and an older one for your "active" pass to work on. on that note, /IF/ they do bring back old battlepasses, we better not have to rebuy them again if we already owned them.

[@ChainSouls]

Could not agree more

[@AdaSoom]

I just want my Omega lights

[@Jack.W86]

@@AdaSoom nah you stink shoulda got them when you had the chance

[@AdaSoom]

@@Jack.W86 Sorry I was 15 and had school 🙄 but it's a digital item whether it never comes back or comes back it won't affect your life whatsoever so womp womp.

[@scriptedjava9265]

@@AdaSoom based

[@Haughty-yt]

I would argue that Epic already broke their promise. They gave Sparkle Specialist as a reward for the boogie down contest and also gave the "Ride the Pony" emote away as a login reward to everyone playing in season X. Granted they did provide compensation, but still gave the original emote to new players.

[@Quintapion]

Was about to spam this for the 9th time today, ty

[@Haughty-yt]

@Quintapion Ur Welcome

[@unknowncomrade5023]

@@Quintapion because he wants it but he ain't getting it 💀

[@Quintapion]

@@unknowncomrade5023 Ok🤷‍♂️

[@hughesey009]

They got no pony with their emote though.

[@iCXRUX]

If they're gonna do it to some, they need to do it to ALL, otherwise it just breeds more toxicity and resentment between newer players or players who missed items and older players who do have them and have since then developed a superiority complex because of it. Same with emotes and skins that they refuse to bring back. It's sanctioned gatekeeping by Epic, themselves. They don't need to just sell the items in the shop, but bring back the passes with reworked challenges so those players can grind them like everyone else. Old players aren't even gonna know who's OG or not, nor are they gonna care when they're in the middle of a crazy fight, so their stance against it is a moot point. By their logic, the same thing could be said about the OG and Reload maps. They should remove them immediately since newer players weren't around when they were originally out... Get what I'm saying? Look at how many players joined for those re-releases. It's likely that a lot of players would join for a chance to get those old passes.

[@SodaPopBot]

Agreed, but they'll definitely care and whine, but hopefully, if it happens, they'll get over it and just allow people to have fun. They still have their skins to look at. Though from all I've seen, they don't even care about its looks, just meaningless bragging rights... If I have to pay more or put in MORE work than the OGs, that is fine. I just want the OPPORTUNITY. There's MANY games out there where you simply don't keep track/are unaware of their content updates. Ofc Fortnite players will (usually) know 'cause they already play the game.

[@iCXRUX]

@SodaPopBot EXACTLY. It's probably been years since most of them have used those skins anyway. The way I see it is let someone else have the chance to enjoy them. It grants no advantage in-game. And to add to that, a lot of players finish their battle passes with weeks or even months to spare with nothing to grind after that. This would be an excellent opportunity to fill that void and entice players to get on more!

[@inspiringlegacy]

Womp womp

[@ChainSouls]

This will not fix the issue tho, og styles exist, Og Paradigm, Purple Skull Trooper, Pink Ghoul Trooper. If they bring them back, OG styles will be made 100%. Heck, even the emote giddy up has an og counter part. Not to mention the exclusives like Galaxy, Ikonik, etc. I've seen this argument too many times, and it won't fix anything. Toxicity will always exist, especially if they bring them back. The number of kids spamming Take The L would be absurd.

[@ChainSouls]

​@@iCXRUXI don't know if you played Reload, but OGs definitely use their skins there for a better nostalgia feeling, I've seen plenty.

[@captdeadpool3449]

"They are virtual skins in a videogame" ah yes, then i take it that there is no problem in bringing it back then :)

[@Wulfstan1938]

It's easy to not care about them when you have them.

[@Arxility]

Those leakers only clickbait they knew that this was from august but started tweeting out now

[@PastaaFN]

Yeah I wished that KZbin can update their app and add a block section so I can block leakers on KZbin and not be spoiled by it.

[@TheDogeOfSarcasm]

@@PastaaFN Actually you can, if you see one of their videos theres 3 little dots. Instead of watching the video click those 3 dots, there should be a "don't recommend me this channel" option there.

[@nonameguy3]

everyone is reading this wrong. it’s an old article and they’ve been constantly updating their tos since then

[@PastaaFN]

Yeah ik Klarque Clint Gaming got paid 6 figures by epic games to make a video about this and now it happened thanks Klarque Clint Gaming for ruining the fun like dude your 30, still lives In your mom's basement and arguing like a 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.

[@TyGuy943]

@@PastaaFN dude this comment wasn’t even about klarque

[@RoxlnnBR]

@@TyGuy943 he’s just saying all these creators were paid to spread false info

[@NOTDNAOFDOOM]

​@@PastaaFNproof?

[@unknowncomrade5023]

@@RoxlnnBR false info that they already knew was wrong how small is ur brain 🐒

[@youthoughtitwasahair2306]

This won't end until maybe early next year when we can fully assume that they aren't coming back.

[@St.Panduh]

KZbinrs have been milking this idea for some time, let’s hope for the best

[@PastaaFN]

Yeah ik Klarque Clint Gaming got paid 6 figures by epic games to make a video about this and now it happened thanks Klarque Clint Gaming for ruining the fun like dude your 30, still lives In your mom's basement and arguing like a 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.

[@Trooper-le6tw]

Personally as someone who played in chapter 1 season 2 but didn’t get a battle pass till season 8 I hope they bring them back but if they don’t it doesn’t really matter I’m gonna enjoy the game cosmetics don’t affect gameplay in the end.

[@JetEnduro96]

I like your mindset, they're just pixels at the end of the day

[@conner9842]

Why are people talking about a quote epic made months ago

[@christiang1674]

@@conner9842 Tbh I think certain OGs are emphasizing it now because they truly do want to maintain their exclusivity & want to shut the conversation down before Epic sees how badly the community wants old passes / cosmetics to come back during the return of OG OG. I also think it was just for clicks & views for the leakers even though it’s not anything we didn’t already know. I’m not taking the news at face value because they haven’t actually addressed anything within the last two weeks of speculation as well as them taking these steps to break down barriers of exclusivity. It still feels too little too late but they should’ve done this when they began incorporating collaborations into the battlepass. Love Epic but something as simple as “All collaboration cosmetics within the battlepass are not exclusive & may return at a later date” could’ve solved a lot of the current problems we are having now.

[@ARHAANTALWAAR]

Why are people talking about a theory made up by the community when epic never said anything

[@Seanbruvh]

@@ARHAANTALWAARliterally, they’re tryna run with this and it’s not going anywhere 😭. They’ll be fine if epic doesn’t bring back og battle passes

[@christiang1674]

@@ARHAANTALWAAR To fuel the debate to bring back old battlepasses because ultimately doing that will give Epic the green light to bring back other passes especially the ones with collabs. I’m all for it but it’s really up to Epic & if they have the balls to do it. Personally I wouldn’t look at them any differently & take offense to them re releasing my Reaper & Omega lights since they’re are just virtual cosmetics in a game. If Epic were to do it yes it’s wrong to break that exclusivity promise but if they wanted to earn some respect points they could atleast apologize to the OGs who’s feelings get hurt from this & repay them in some way. I’ll never view Epic the same way as a company like Activision who doesn’t care about their community at all & just wants to grab a bag

[@ARHAANTALWAAR]

@christiang1674 i don't have ch1 bp but you don't see me crying and epic doesn't want the old bp to return from the start that's why they mentioned that the change they made to exclusivity is only for new bp so they don't want to do it it's just the community who is making theories and why are people comparing epic with Activision they both operate their games differently both have different things that shouldn't mean fortnite should be cod and they are literally using unfair business practices to sell their products if they made the bps return and i wouldn't like epic to go back on their word because if they did it now then their word will not have any weight from now because people would think that they can complain about anything and epic will change it

[@thebaron2277]

To be honest i dont care much about the chapter 1 passes. I want the chapter 2 ones to come back because i want characters like Midas, Meowscles, Jules, Kitt and Agent Jones

[@vinlor781gaming6]

I get it’s a bonus for playing early on but there’s old battle pass skins that have never been reskinned once but we keep get them same ones over and over I just wish they would give an option to a version of a one and done skins

[@vinlor781gaming6]

I didn’t know if this was gonna get brought up but I’m just getting tired of the same skins getting reskin after reskin like peely and Midas and fishstick alone have multiple I would like to see more fan favorites other then those something like dire or even another favorite Ik that the community liked was trog

[@Buzz.co2]

A.I.M never got a reskin. The Visitor and The Scientist never got reskins. Hybrid got a reskin but in an old crew pack that isn’t obtainable anymore. Zyg never got a reskin. Rippley never got a reskin that had the exact same style as him. Ronin never got a reskin. Kondor never got a reskin. And I can keep going on…

[@Alex-po7fp]

I honestly doubt that they will stop reskinning iconic skin just because the og version comes back. We already have several versions of the bird skin and Peely is an iconic skin in general.

[@mudkipgames1]

Hey! Some of lobby tracks where given out via the season 1 festival pass back in Chapter 5 Season 1. Previously these where labeled as an itemshop exclusive. They are Take Me Higher and Brace for Chaos. 15:19

[@Rogturtle23]

I want to finish my old chapter 1 battle passes. Like chapter 2 and 3 and chapter 5

[@HedgiePlay]

I feel like they should bring back old battlepass because like if you want to spend your money on it then boom spend your money plus if you already bought the battlepass and got everything then why the heck re-buy the old battlepass as an OG (Chapter 1) yeah I didnt really buy battlepasses until Chapter 5 like get over it its a skin in a teenage game atleast you still have your blackknight, midas, etc

[@FortFilmsYT]

I’ve just realised 😂 the dates don’t align with a year. Imagine they use those old dates for the pass

[@Sk8l8ton]

would be hilarious 😂

[@SSG_Keef]

well said, lot of people just want the skin because no one else has it, the moment they have it the hype dies down either way and these grown men and women who played in season one chapter one need to stop and grow up "we will sue epic if they bring back battle passes from season 1 chapter 1" like no you will not. they will find a loop hole or they won't.

[@StarWyvernHPB]

Theres so many people obssessed over getting these old skins who wouldnt even use them after rhe first 2 weeks. But theres also so many people starkly defending the old skins, acting like people are entitled for wanting to pay fornthe chance to earn these old cosmetics that barely anyone even uses.

[@OhLillith]

@@StarWyvernHPB NOT, true! I have been DYING to get Lynx and her variants. She would be my main EVERY DAY! I want the paws and claws emote too and can’t. 😭😭😭

[@StarWyvernHPB]

@OhLillith yeah, I forgot to say that apparently, there are indeed tons obsessed over getting old skins who'd never use them, but also tons who would use them as their main skins, more so then actually use them probably. So bringing them back (or new versions, like Ultima Knight was to black knight) would be great

[@EricRick-bi3ky]

I honestly think they are coming back because why wouldn't epic just say it isn't happening. That stuff people are bringing up is old and has been there. I could be wrong but y would they not just dismiss this before it turns into a wild fire.

[@MalakaiSchuhart]

5:51 The problem for most people is when Epic locks collab skins behind a Battle Pass. Just because I didn't play in a certain season doesn't mean I should never be able to play as one of my favorite characters from any franchise. Locking a popular character like Lara Croft, Doctor Strange, or Optimus Prime behind a timed Battle Pass is not only stupid from a business standpoint, but is also unfair to everyone who either couldn't play for some reason or didn't play the game at the time their favorite character was available. It's not about the original characters. It's about the collaborations.

[@briancutshall9973]

Ya wolverine and Ironman from the pass look 10 times better than any release they made for the item shop Me personally I don't care about black knight or midas, only thing I care about is collab skins, like og Deadpool is beyond better than cell shaded Deadpool

[@MalakaiSchuhart]

@ Exactly. The remakes are never as good. And cel shading just doesn't fit the art style of the game. I don't like any cel shaded skins.

[@Mentalllls]

Where is everyone getting the assumption they were returning? Like what some casual starts 2 weeks ago and starts demanding stuff? Like no, you kinda don't deserve it, if you didn't grind for all these years. Can't just go in any game and start demanding for stuff

[@SmoodGraphics59]

Actually, I could not have cared any less if they would have brought back, the old battle passes, the only thing I literally wanted was to get the Omega skin and after a while when I have the skin, I would move on like everybody else and not gonna lie the omega skin was one of the best skins of that time. And now when we don’t get progressive edit style skins anymore it makes it even more nostalgic

[@imjustarandomontheinternet]

They should give us the option to complete old battle passes we bought but didn't complete.

[@Julie_Kagemori]

Epic Games didn't confirm anything. The quote was from their previous blog post about how old battle pass items couldn't release in the item shop indidually. But they never said that old battle passes couldn't return in the future. People just assumed that because Epic Games said "this season battle pass will last until next season". So they wouldn't break any promise. Also, people care about battle pass skins because they're iconic (Black Knight, Drift, Midas, etc...). Keeping them exclusive is like telling a new Mario fan "Sorry, you can't play as Mario because you didn't play soon enough". But the thing is : these characters do not belong to you. Like Steam, you only get the right to use them. Fortnite really is the only game where it's own fanbase gatekeep it's most iconic characters only because they want to flex and feel like they're better than the others.

[@Ser1ous-kh7lg]

They said only future battle passes will return in general. READ THE ACTUAL POST.

[@SpreadingOfGodsWord]

​@Ser1ous-kh7lg Yea doesn't mean old BP can't come back as whole passes buddy if they bring those seasons back and out a pass alongside it. Read again :))

[@PastaaFN]

Yeah Klarque Clint Gaming ruined this topic because he's gatekeeping like dude your 30 years old, lives in mom's basement eating 10 big mac's and arguing like a 8 year old over pixels like start a family my guy.

[@TheDogeOfSarcasm]

@@Ser1ous-kh7lg Actually it specifies "this change", it specifies. It also links to a news page about the new bp terms suggestion that is the change it's referring to. Not saying it will return, I think their return is unlikely, simply trying to make sure everything is clarified. Also yes I read the page. I went there myself shortly after this help page madness broke out.

[@unknowncomrade5023]

@@SpreadingOfGodsWord u don't know what the word future means is crazy u failed God

[@LAZYCRAZYGAMER]

7:45 This means little to nothing. Its just informing you how long the BP is available for. Exclusivity can be retured multiple times for a period of time. They never said it was only exclusive for that date, only for the season.

[@babyburch33]

People are still complaining about this?! If people are bragging this much about the old BPs returning (when they’re hundreds upon thousands of other cosmetics), it’s fine but this will cause a never ending feud. They made that promise, so let them stick with it. Exclusivity when it comes to the older BPs isn’t always a bad thing.

[@key2shawn154]

Thank you for being smart and reasonab about this because people really not seeing the problem with bringing these back and another thing they don’t realize they turning the battle pass into a second item shop

[@babyburch33]

@ thank you. Appreciate it dude 👍🏾

[@mariocruz414]

"If the older battle pass returns im uninstalling" no u are not....

[@SgtTankDempsey]

They already spent tons of money and hours into the game they are not leaving

[@HiImTumn]

Hyperbole? I don’t know why people don’t understand that’s it’s a hyperbole

[@squishymcsquisherson]

Problem is, there are SEVERAL Fortnite content creators who keep egging on their subscribers and baiting them by claiming every little "loophole" and reading into things and goating people into thinking they will return. It's been clarified time and time again since the announcement. We know what's never returning and what could potentially return in the future. People gotta accept it and move on. But I blame creators who keep teasing their communities with false hope and false clues.

[@ChainSouls]

This is what I'm saying, they keep lying and the little kids eat it up. Kratos, Travis Scott, and now this, when will they learn.

[@Windermed]

it's only been clarified once. and besides, you do realize they brought back battlepass cosmetics outside of the season right? remember sparkle specialist??

[@ChainSouls]

@@Windermed Sparkle Specialist never returned...

[@elliotcampbelle3800]

@@ChainSouls If you participated in the Boogie Down contest, you were given her as a reward. I can't remember which season but it was after C1S2. And also, it's very likely Travis will return to the shop. This is because Travis will be a part of the live even concert.

[@ChainSouls]

@@elliotcampbelle3800 I remember now. Even with that being said, they removed Rouge Agent, Mako, etc. from the shop. This doesn't really mean anything, especially since they brought out a starter skin from ch2, yet stated only future BP will be sold from here on out. As well as remaking skins with Disney because they acknowledged that some were locked. Getting rid of Paradigm is also the most recent thing they did. If it stayed in the shop, it would have been a different story.

[@elliotcampbelle3800]

I got this comment from another person because I'm tired of writing 7 lines each time someone does this. This comment was made by ChillyWillyGAMING "When the leakers released that old info yesterday, it kind of pissed me off that the gatekeeping community thought they were "safe" in keeping digital items exclusive. This frustrated me because, as you pointed out, this is old information from three months ago, yet people are still debating whether old battle passes will return. I want to share my arguments on why I THINK old battle passes will come back. 1. OLD INFO THAT CONFIRMS NOTHING As the leakers pointed out, the information that supposedly “disconfirms” the return of old battle passes states: "Battle Pass exclusivity will end starting with the C5S4 Battle Pass and onward. Future Battle Pass items will return in the item shop and will not affect previous Battle Passes." This clearly doesn’t affect old battle passes, and it never explicitly says or confirms that old battle passes can’t return. It only mentions newer items from battle passes being sold in the shop. However, it doesn’t address whether older battle passes can be resold. 2. THE PARADIGM, UPDATED BATTLE PASS IMAGES IN THE “OFFER CATALOG,” AND EPIC GAMES SURVEYS When this old info was released, it became clear that Epic Games was interested in reducing exclusivity. This was demonstrated when they released previously exclusive, limited-time items like The Paradigm (exclusive in Season X) into the item shop. This was likely a test to gauge community reactions to this controversial decision (as you mentioned in your last video). Additionally, Epic Games has moved old battle pass images into a folder labeled “Offer Catalog.” I don’t know how Epic structures their game files or the reasoning behind this move. Some argue it means nothing-but let me remind you of what happened when they did this: Epic released surveys asking players how they felt about the possibility of old battle passes returning. 3. EACH FORTNITE GAME MODE HAS ITS OWN PURCHASABLE PASS Fortnite now features several game modes, most with their own purchasable pass-such as LEGO, Festival, and Battle Royale. When you switch between game modes, you see the pass specific to that mode. For example, if you select the LEGO mode, you see the LEGO pass instead of the Battle Royale pass. This suggests that Epic is building a flexible system to accommodate multiple passes at once, which could include reruns of older battle passes in OG mode. 4. THE REMOVAL OF BATTLE STARS The old battle pass system was based on earning XP to unlock items. Later, Epic introduced the Battle Stars system, which added a new layer to obtaining items. This system lasted for a while but was recently phased out in favor of the original XP-based system starting with Chapter 6. Here’s my theory: When Epic introduced LEGO and Festival passes, they used the original XP-based system rather than Battle Stars. This made it consistent with seasonal/collab passes (like Pirates of the Caribbean). Originally, you could only upgrade passes within their respective modes. However, Epic recently allowed players to level up any pass at any time. This change aligns with the return of OG Mode in Chapter 6, where the original XP system is simpler and avoids confusion. If they had kept Battle Stars, it might have made players question why one system (OG Mode) is simple while the other (Modern Mode) is more complicated. Additionally, the number of items in modern battle passes has been reduced compared to OG passes, making modern passes appear like a worse deal in comparison. 5. THE BATTLE PASS DATE GAP DEBATE Finally, there’s the argument from Hypex: "The loophole people talk about is the seasons returning, but they forget the big date tag on every season when you purchase the 'exclusive' marked stuff." Here’s why I think this argument doesn’t hold water: The “big date” Hypex refers to is simply the time frame during which you can purchase a battle pass. For example, the Season 2 Battle Pass might say it’s available from Dec. 14 to Feb. 20. After that, you can no longer purchase it or earn its items. The date is meaningless because it doesn’t specify the year. Even if it did, Epic has only stated: “Rewards from a Battle Pass can only be earned in that season and will not be available in later seasons.” AND LET ME REMIND YOU THAT DATE IS CORRELATED TO THE SEASONS DURATION WHICH MEANS NOTHING. With Fortnite OG becoming permanent and rerunning older seasons (0-X), it makes sense that Epic could reintroduce old battle passes during their respective seasons. These passes would only be available during the limited time that season is active. I hope these arguments justify why I believe old battle passes will return. Ultimately, it’s up to Epic Games to decide. I hope they do it, but if they don’t-well, it’s not the end of the world. Cheers!" THIS IS NOT MY COMMENT THOUGH I AGREE WITH ALL OF IT Edit: They gave me permission to Copy+Paste

[@mrkitloin]

There’s also equivalent evidence for them not returning Obviously sparkle specialist and ride the pony are fringe cases, and paradigm from what I can gather are complete accidents. The offer catelogue folder only seems to be where they’re storing old asssets because I looked in there myself and there was balanciaga stuff. Though the biggest nail in the coffin to me at least was Bode (the guy who made the skins for the OG pass and remix pass) reacting to the tweet that epic made about the new OG passes. It’s far more likely that epic had Bode make more remix skins for the og passes than it is for epic to re release old battlepasses

[@blazephoenix5849]

"Battlepass skins will come back in the shop after 18 months after initial release" keywords are skins and the shop, dosent say anything about the entire pass itself, if they choose to bring the old battlepasses back in their respective seasons they wont be lying for anything, the battlepasses will still be exclusive to the season they originate from (they never stated it was exclusive to the time period they initially released during just the season so yes bringing the season back along with its corrisponding battlepass makes that statement still true), and it isnt souly the skins coming back it would be the whole pass, im sure people that dont want others to have the skins will find some way to say thats wrong, and i have every battlepass from chapter 1 season 5 to current so i do have a say and i say bring them back, ive always thought it was dumb keeping the skins locked forever, people are so keen on keeping skins they never use locked to themselves that they cry every time epic brings back rare skins, they never had to give people special styles for skull and ghoul troopers because those skins where never exclusive so now people think they have the right to gatekeep

[@nitrozconcepts]

Well... fortnite got nominated for community support.

[@MonkeMan2.0]

We are supportive right guys? …right?…

[@FranklinTrumanHavoc]

Also another thing. Correct me if I'm about this, but didn't they say the newer battlepass skins are subject to return to item shop. You don't think they might just make a new tab and just call it the OG pass. It's not technically affecting the Battle pass system where in 18 months they'll return. It'll just be another pass. Again correct me if I'm wrong about this. It's just a theory. I'm neutral in this whole situation. 13:47 well damn. I did not see that until now

[@Tommytommyxd]

i feel like its because we got it back then and it feels to have them knowing you where there back then and got it its how i feel

[@masterofbloopers]

This still doesn't solve the mystery of the "OffersCatalogue" folder in the item shop's code. Why add the old Battle Pass key art to that folder? Maybe they're planning for the far future? This ruling isn't permanent. Thay can change their minds at any time. I'll wait as long as it takes.

[@franciscogomezpuerta846]

Me too

[@Windermed]

personally, I think it's likely Epic added it in to see how the community would react. If epic really didn't want to confirm it, they could've easily blacklisted the old BP assets as they aren't needed anymore yet they left them in the files.

[@JalfaX]

I'm 50/50 about this but bringing chapter 1 battle passes could kill account selling.

[@banana-lord]

Drift, Peely or Midas are just iconic awesome scins everyone loves

[@unknowncomrade5023]

@@banana-lord they re skinned those because they knew they weren't gonna return

[@bombingame6587]

I don’t care for drift or midas

[@ryanfares263]

That is from August that doesn't confirm anything so ch1 passes can still return

[@stephqnos]

what matters is what they said, not when they said it lol

[@ryanfares263]

@stephqnos but it is from 3 months ago Fortnite can change their mind plus some passes said exclusive to their season and we are returning to the same exact seasons in the mode so doesn't break the law in any way

[@Chapy1189]

@@ryanfares263 yall are so hard on the cope they aren't coming back 😂

[@gaspersnakes]

​@@Chapy1189he does have. Point tho?

[@TakeYourLewds]

The cope in this comment is crazy

[@cheese8210]

as an og i really dont give a single care in the world if they bring back old battlepasses, especially ones with crossovers in them. 1.if you want to spend money on something then you should be able to 2.imagine how some kids gonna feel once he starts fortnite in chapter 6 but figures out he cant be vader (or other old battlepass-locked iconic characters), exactly why they should bring back old passes or at least crossovers from old passes 3. three!!!

[@zeldaman1411]

It’s not just the skins people want it’s the dance moves and other goodies that came with them I’m an OG and yeah I agree the battle passes should be sold to people again. There’s more to this and I get the whole keep your word in but there have been company’s who’ve stated they weren’t gonna bring it back but until popular demand then they did but I hope epic goes by their words and let those passes comeback for all to have fun

[@HiImTumn]

These kids are saying people are crying over pixels because og battle passes are gonna return but they are the ones saying “OMG BRING THEM BACK EXCLUSIVELY IS DUMMBBBB” like bruh

[@FlipflopMount222]

I know lol. And historically it's always been that side that's far more toxic you will always see them randomly insulining people who are OG they are the worst

[@Zep_vroy]

I think what epic is trying to stop is account selling

[@Blake-r3x]

I feel like if they don’t rerelease old Battle Passes, I think they might try and pull an OG type of situation where we either have remixed/fused skins based off the original skins with a full 200 level Battle Pass that is for all 10 seasons for all 10 months. Everytime we fully go through is all 10 seasons and restart we get a new battle pass

[@BCTHUNDERBOLT]

The best thing they can do is release mini passes with slightly remixed cosmetics for each new Chapter 1 season.

[@Sammy-bj7ff]

Honestly they should just swap some colors around and call it a day, like a white black knight, a dark voyager with blue lights, stuff like that

[@Im_JellyBelly]

@@Sammy-bj7fffr

[@dizzyd4205]

Gatekeeping man babies ruined this. Its not OG, its a CH1 S1 remix. We should have gotten access to old battle passes, the ones we paid for. I own them all, and still don't understand this stupidity.

[@key2shawn154]

Just because you didn’t get doesn’t mean you deserve to get do you have every item shop skin nobody ruined anything epic literally kept a promise because in the guide lines it said item won’t return

[@dizzyd4205]

@@key2shawn154 I do have them dummy. The battle passes said they would last as long as the season. If they claim this is OG, then we would have access. The real OG season 1 was a seasonal item shop. They should have allowed access to that. Gatekeeping old skins only hurts Fortnite. The entitlement of players expecting epic to keep developing new skins, so players can feel special for old. Exclusivity does not equal skill.

[@dizzyd4205]

@@key2shawn154 ha, Epic learned from their mistake. We back baby.

[@key2shawn154]

@@dizzyd4205 not really because they getting og edit styles

[@key2shawn154]

@@dizzyd4205 and they still ain’t gonna bring back original battle passes

[@conner9842]

I hope they bring everything back if only to make the most annoying people in the community mad

[@Guilded_Boy]

5:52, respectfully I have to disagree. The type of art style that Fortnite began with is very different for the skins from chapter to chapter and dare I say season to season. A lot of the skins we get now are kind off just advertising (snoop dog, ice spice, ect) Fortnite after Donald mustard left I would argue Fortnite almost lost its identity with it trying to copy COD with last chapters art style especially with the skins and those old skins are at the moment Fortnite’s identity, the very first thing you see when looking at the game since they are to my knowledge still used in Fortnite’s advertising since I would say over 80% of the player base is new players looking at Fortnite when it had some of the most magical seasons.

[@Guilded_Boy]

I would also look towards halo infinite for replaying old battle passes if the new community really makes an impact since halo infinite makes you not only pay for the older passes but to also work through every tier. This in my opinion beats the argument that “you guys didn’t work hard for the skins we got while also meaning Fortnite can scale up the cost reasonably which is a win/win I would say

[@spencercooks903]

Epic said that the crew will include quote ‘ the crew will include Fortnite og passes’. Epic will be able to release the passes agian if the whole season returns cuz then it’s re release in its specific season

[@themanwithyoursauce2477]

As someone who could of played during chapter 1 season 2 but thought monthly subscriptions were needed which I wasnt allowed to play, i am deeply sadden on the very cool emotes and skins i missed out on the previous battle passes when I started on late s4. Chapter 2 battle pass the only things i found cool were the floss emote and the black knight Chapter 3 - Elite Agent, Robot, Reaper, best mates, and Elite agent Chapter 4 - Omega, orange justice, and Hype

[@7dude77]

the only thing about old battlepasses not returning that I'm sad about is the fact that I'll never get the OG Lobby Music from the Season X Battlepass. I love that music, wish I'd have gotten it.

[@cjfox7674]

I love the drift set. i have every drift skin except chapter season 5 battle pass drift. No matter how many new versions or remixes they release, nothing is gonna stop me from wanting the og drift

[@Buzz.co2]

The change it is referring to is not the Battle Passes as a whole coming back but instead the items coming to the shop like how the Chapter 5 Season 4 Battle Pass will. We have known about this since the original blog post in August. The reason why people are misunderstanding this is because this is because the tweets don’t show the full context of the blog post. The blog that the Epic Games support post links to is called, “CHANGE TO ITEM EXCLUSIVITY IN FUTURE FORTNITE BATTLE PASSES,” released on August seventh, it reads as follows, “Items in future Fortnite Battle Passes might be offered for purchase in the Fortnite Shop after 18 or more months from the Battle Pass’ expiration” (The Fortnite Team). Nowhere in the entire article does it mention older Battle Passes coming back NOR does it mention older Battle Passes staying exclusive. The entire article (and support page that links to it) is only speaking of Battle Pass items after Chapter 5 Season 3 coming to the shop. Many people have made a concept that Battle Passes could be sold in their entirety throughout OG Chapter 1 as technically it would be the old seasons coming back. The cosmetics in these passes wouldn’t be coming to the shop like the ones in the Chapter 5 Season 4 pass, so technically they could return if they come back the same as they were back in chapter 1 and are only limited to that month that they are out. We wouldn’t see if they do come out until either December or January as December is season 1, so Epic could bring back Aerial Assault Trooper and all of that stuff (some people think that is the battle pass of season 1) or January, when season 2 would come out and therefore be when the first official pass would have come out. Time will tell. Edit: I really do hope Epic gives original players some form of compensation if they bring the Passes back as I don’t want to see people leave this game but, it’s up to Epic.

[@despacitoking237]

Bro, what is your profile pic 💀

[@Buzz.co2]

@@despacitoking237 Meowdas Flopper

[@brandonstarstorm3289]

A note on your edit, but I would be extremely disappointed if the compensation for OG owners was just a basic purple or gold edit style. I'd also be disappointing if they took the same route as the crew pass and gave you all the ugly crew styles for your OG skins. At least three unique styles for each individual skin, specific to that skin, would be good in my opinion. Like with Zoey, they could have one where her clothes are green and her hair is pink, one where she has a special effect with a candy texture on her clothing, and maybe purple and pink would be cool. Even then, newer players would not be happy and would complain about not having those edit styles and the cycle of complaining would never end.

[@Buzz.co2]

@@brandonstarstorm3289 if people are complaining about not getting a purple or gold style, they are ungrateful. I’m grateful I got the Paradigm during the one hour it was out back in season 3. The memory of me going absolutely ballistic because one of my favorite skins returned to the shop is more important than a purple, gold, or even fully original style. I really hope people don’t get pissy over just a recolor of a skin that they probably should have never gotten. Do I believe that it is moral for Epic to bring back these items, no, do I want them to, yes. I just really don’t want the community to get even more divided just because of a gold Peely. I think the original owners of the skins should be grateful that they owned them for five or six years while they were exclusive. I just hope they come back, even if I don’t get a super level style or a purple style.

[@damin9996]

The August 7th exclusive battlepass quote was old news. I thought everyone knew about that. Why are we even bringing it up it’s old. This changes nothing 😭

[@bombingame6587]

5:32-6:08 I kinda feel like this argument is stupid because there’s a ton of chapter 1 stuff that’s never been remade and if they have been remade they don’t capture the same vibes or similar vibes to the original concept of the concept

[@JaybroGaming9123]

God ever since season 3 it’s like the community has become such absolute shit, why can’t we just get along

[@key2shawn154]

And it’s easy to want something that you don’t have

[@key2shawn154]

That’s the players complaining about something epic sated in every battle pass itself

[@RanGames18]

It's mostly the children that are complaining about them coming back because they used their Mommy's credit card to buy an account and they just can't fathom it coming back when they spent so much money for pixels THEY ARE TECHNICALLY RENTING BECAUSE U DON'T ACTUALLY OWN YOUR SKINS (SRRY FOR THE LONG COMMENT) 💀

[@Buzz.co2]

Bro said sorry for the long comment and wrote one sentence 💀.

[@unknowncomrade5023]

Sounds like u don't got them and u probably never touched the real chap 1💀

[@GoofNut123]

Bruh don’t even act like you’re not 13 😭

[@RanGames18]

🤡

[@RanGames18]

@@unknowncomrade5023 bro you have fortnite as your KZbin background don't talk to me 🤦‍♂️

[@hikikomicklori9290]

The day after buying the Battle Pass with Dr Strange in it, my system bricked and I couldn't get back into the game till the next season. I wouldn't mind if they gave me the option to spend levels to unlock the skins from that season since I already paid for chance to earn them.

[@unknown_toast2558]

I don’t wanna be offensive, but I think using the argument that it’s not morally right to billion company just doesn’t make sense to me.

[@flevsalt]

its a way for old players to show that they've been playing for a long time. giving those skins out like they're candy removes their value. i don't think its gatekeeping, i think its just wanting to have the ability to show how long you've been playing for.

[@exakz860]

they can just add different styles or give them skins

[@flevsalt]

@@exakz860 they've already chosen the best option by adding remixed versions of them, giving each and every single one of these old skins "rare styles" would take a lot of work in comparison to making smaller battle passes with 3 skins every couple of months.

[@exakz860]

​@@flevsalt Yes ur completely right but people want the exact og skins you know so the yneed to do it as simmilar as possible i think from OG pass were decent.But Its pretty weird Skull and Ghould trooper got a style while they were from shop and not the season shop like renegade raider annd airial aussalt trooper. I mean Red knight or the christmas skins didn't get any so yeah.

[@flevsalt]

@@exakz860 You probably don't want them because of how they look. You likely want them because they're OG, that's exactly why we take pride in owning these skins. More people will be mad about them returning than there will be people happy. There are thousands of other skins, you'll live if you don't get the exact ones back. Besides, maybe they will still bring the old battle passes back. They were introduced in season 2, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[@exakz860]

@@flevsalt bro i started in season 1i want them becasue it gives me meomories from back then. all those skins i like more then any other skin especially Black knight

[@hieishiro6354]

To be fair, I have found a lot of the new skins have been boring. Like 80% of the skins I have from battle passes remain unused since I got them back in chapter 3. A lot of the old battle pass skins and cosmetics would meet the same fate, however, old fox clan skins and skins like Calamity, Fade, and Ripley are (for me) much more fun and interesting than what we have been getting.

[@adatirei]

This is old news. We know old passes can't return under this change. No one ever thought that. We know it's possible because they can re-run old seasons and sell the passes along with them, which is not related to this change made in August in any way. Through this "loophole", (and it's hard to call it a loophole because of how dumb simple it is) Epic Games would not be going against anything they ever said.

[@StudentOfFN]

Battlepass loophole copers arent smart enough to realize all passes are in the item shop. They wouldn't be able to come back regardless

[@brandonstarstorm3289]

I think the community needs to start thinking of the future of the game and cosmetics instead of the past. That being said, I think we should actively be asking Epic Games to focus on remaking all of the old battle pass characters, but better as well as making better new cosmetics. Instead of getting 20 Peely reskins, where are the reskins for Dire, Catalyst, Dusk, Thunder, etc.? Also, as cool as Omega is, Epic Games added Omega Knight, which is even cooler than the original Omega if you ask me. I do hope Omega Knight returns in the future since he's an amazing skin.

[@HeWhoFinesses]

Thing is they easily add back the og passes after August 7th and it’ll still count towards their stance.

[@DudeSlayer-rp2cz]

At the end of the day it's epic games game so technically they can bring back old battle passes and there is nothing we can really do about it that's why they changed the tos so they can't get sued let's hope they bring back old battle passes

[@TyGuy943]

It said those specific changes won’t affect the old battlepasses they could still do the permanent og loophole

[@realCosmicCuriosity]

If they do release old battle passes that would just be a big spit in the face to me. The main reason that I purchased and grinded out the old battle passes was because I had the intention that they would never come back. Also I think the new players should not have an opinion on the matter because they're obviously going have a bias which is not fair.

[@unknowncomrade5023]

Exactly u spoke the truth and us old players need these skins and I did the same as u

[@Sammy-bj7ff]

Facts bro these skins reflect an era that has passed, they are special to me and idc if im called a “gatekeeper” these skins should remain how they are. I don’t want no og style

[@Agent-t9p]

But u all are grown men now, imagine having a childish behavior at ur age 😭

[@brandonstarstorm3289]

I really just want the old skins to be reskinned for the store for newer players to get. I played Chapter 1 Season 4-X and then returned during Chapter 5 Season 2. I missed out on a bunch of cool characters like Thunder and Oscar. Instead of complaining for these passes to return, I just want Epic Games to remake the skins like they are doing for Peely. A new Dire skin or new Dusk skin would be cool!

[@redlock9621]

@@brandonstarstorm3289 Yeah they need to just do more re-skins of the old Battle Pass skins, just bringing back the exact old models would be lazy and down right stupid on Epic's part and would be bad for both old players, and new (as new players wouldn't feel the need to buy any re skins after). I feel like then they lose the opportunity to reskin old skins, resulting in losing a lot of money. Bringing back the actual old skins definitely seems like a no-go to me. I'd be very upset as @realCosmicCuriousity said, us OGs grinded HOURS on the old seasons just to earn said "exclusive" skins.

[@itsYvckk]

i think they will use the loophole they said that skins from battlepasses now can be in the ITEM SHOP however they said that each battlepass previously is only available during that season and when the season ends you cant get them.....BUT if it is chapter 1 season 2 for og fortnite then technically it is available as a battlepass again. as someone who owns the og skins (2017 player) if they bring them back give us og edit styles for the gliders pickaxes backblings skins just like skull trooper and ghoul not giving us that bare minimum is morally wrong especially since were talking about the core community who has been here for 7 years supporting the game.

[@FlipflopMount222]

Exactly, I would be okay with the return just as long as we get styles. That's fair.

[@MasterChief11700]

It's stupid that OG people are making such a big deal over something that Epic can just give them a exclusive style for and let people who never had a chance just get the skins they want. Also to your argument, its more so just that it be nice to have said skins cause they appeals to us and in many cases even more than some that are coming out and ones that would actually get use by the people wanting them back.

[@Jay-xo6ck]

if they do start releasing exclusive skins in the shop they would all end up just like the recon expert,ghoul troop and skull trooper everybody wanted them and now that they’ve been to the shop a ton of times no one cares about them anymore and they’re just regular skins. I wouldn’t mind them doing it if they add edit styles for the original owners tho

[@Peebss]

I think if theyre going to release the battle passes they need to come out and say it, it is not cool to say "we wont" and then bring it back

[@Spyke7566]

I’m an og to Fortnite but I do have to say I wanna let new people get the old passes we had. It make sense we’re having fun not being so greedy and just angry over wanting to get the passes exclusive. If I wanna have fun and let others give it a shot then that’s my choice

[@Komasan_likes_icecream]

My reason for wanting old battle passes is cause i played since season 6 and i remember out of every season season 8 was my favorite i had peely and i was happy but i lost that account near the end of season 9 i still played on a new account of course and still use it but i really miss that og peely skin way more than i should

[@CallerID]

Why don’t we just bring back all the chapters then? I personally never got to play chapter 3 and 4 and would love experience them. If they do bring the original battle passes back I’d love to finish my season 4 omega skin since I never had the time to play the game

[@Torpanimations]

5:45 anything visual can't be better. I could say drift is the best looking skin in the game, what would you say, "incorrect as meowdas is at least 50 better than drift" that's just subjective Also 15:50 I don't think that's a good compromise because of all the people who spent 10 bucks just to get paradigm, refunding 1200 v bucks just isn't gonna cut it. If you truly believed that paradigm was a test than why don't you think it'd be more scummy to purposefully get people hyped to spend money on paradigm only to refund them v bucks which are worth nothing. I'm in no way saying that you care about skins and hiding behind false morals to keep them exclusive, I fully believe that your morals are genuine I just feel like they weren't fully thought through enough before you hit post.

[@solaceafk]

Clen, i was just wondering what CPU and GPU do you use?

[@primecuts22]

The FNCS lobby music (Run it) was limited to that time of FNCS. They made it free and only compensated 200 vbucks (the price)

[@TrueSpixe]

I believe the claim about the fncs lobby track is from the “brace for chaos” track that was for fncs aura in chapter 4 season 2, which was then re released in a festival pass as a jam track (i believe it was lady gaga’s)

[@titanswan]

Thank you for the shoutout, good sir. I truly believe that Epic Games us up to something, and we are just scratching the surface. With old starter packs coming back to skins being "accidently" dropped. Epic Games is a massive company and they can do what they want within their discretion. I have that feeling it's why they reworked their TOS and EULA. I'm with you and a big supporter of the game. I really hope we also get more LORE within the game. It's long overdue. You gained a sub.

[@itzjustjack6524]

just make it so if you earned a free pass item from the season or bought the battle pass and didnt finish it you can rebuy it, its still the original player base from that time period and no one can get mad lol

[@Xercaii]

Exactly bro, like the older battle pass skins are pretty boring and I have like all of them from chapter 1 season two up till now and all the newer skins are much cooler, all the people who are begging for them to come back are gonna buy the skins and then get bored of them after a day or two, it's useless.

[@Wolverine1992-z5m]

i think is possibly for old battle passes to retun but on other hand it still could be tie to old og chapter 1 seasons

[@TKAfromKC]

Thank you for acknowledging it is wrong by Epic no matter what people want. Thats my biggest thing is that no matter what above all else, a major gaming company promised millions of people something and going back on that isn’t ok.

[@Naksug_1]

How r ppl so stupid there is literally nothing new bc they had already said "future battle passes" 😂

[@PastaaFN]

You are a gatekeeper like focus on providing for your family not arguing over pixels like what a loser.

[@unknowncomrade5023]

Exactly these people can't read then when they get told the truth they lash out it's funny asf

[@Gingersdad]

​@@unknowncomrade5023if they comback ans epic breaks their promise i garuntee you there will be a boycott for fortnite when og players find out about this. Most og players arent into fortnite atm

[@EzFnUserDeleted]

@@Naksug_1 never heard of epic updating their tos?

[@firetoacat]

For me personally, I would not care one way or the other. It would be nice IF they decide that they should bring back the old passes (Even though that would mean going back on their word). IF they decide to do that, I hope they set it up where people can pick and choose which skins from old passes they want (And the stuff that comes with those skins). Because IF so, I only really want 12 skins from the passes I never had the chance to play with. The 12 I wanted are of designs I found interesting (I came in fully into Fortnite on chapter 2, season 6 and looked up the battlepass skins from before) if anyone does see this comment and actually would like to know: Chapter 1: - Zoey - Fable - Ember - Vendetta - Eternal Voyager - Enforcer Chapter 2: - Fusion - Cameo vs Chic - Eternal Knight - Ocean - Kondor - Reese

[@ryanfares263]

Alright guys here is evidence that the passes could return if Fortnite want August- Fortnite announced that new battle passes can return to the shop after 18 months The statement on the support page means that new pass items can be sold on their own so old battle passes can return as the pass itself like ch1 s2 battle pass can just be sold in the shop as the pass itself for 950 v-bucks October- Fortnite re-added the ch1 battle pass images to the files in a folder called Offer Catalog why would they do this out of the blue OG ch1 SX Paradigm returned to the shop then was removed and OG owners got an exclusive edit style altering their promise Exclusitivity is ending for a lot of things in Fortnite Some or all ch1 battle passes or somewhere it said the passes are exclusive to their season and we are returning to those seasons OG mode is advertised as ch1 s1 November- announced the battle star system is being removed and the battle star system was not present on any passes prior to ch2 s7 Sparkle Specialist and Ride the Pony returned when they were exclusive to a battle pass Updated their EULA

[@captdeadpool3449]

i couldnt care less about the skins, its the emote i want. Nothing can replace orange justice, take the L, best buddies and groove jam

[@FleepacShakur]

The early skins are literally MID. And if every skin was an item shop skin and rotated in and out of the shop no one would care. Folks only want them because they’re “ rare” and no one wants to admit it.

[@Clen-]

Hey Fleep, noticed you came to a couple videos. Thank you!

[@Ghostly_Shadows]

Yep, I 100% agree with ya. How often does Epic listen?

[@NajeeGlaspie]

My little brother favorite superhero is Superman image his surprise when I told him he can never play with his favorite superhero because it’s in a old battle pass that’s the only reason why he wanted to play the game in the first place

[@taqresu5865]

I quite literally just went through all this with the Paradigm skin. I bought it back in Season X, and watched it return to the shop for an hour and then see the new Paradigm owners get to keep it for free. So as an OG, I have first hand experience of this. At first I was shocked, but I grew to accept it, partly because I was there to watch something similar happen to Skull Trooper and Ghoul trooper. Quite frankly, it's impossible to please everyone, no matter what Epic decides here. But Here's my opinion. Every Battle Pass I've ever bought, there's always been skins I never cared for. Defenders of exclusivity love to mention the Black Knight, Renegade Raider, Drift, etc. but what about the Blue Squire, Rust Lord, Tilted Technique, Rox, Dire, X Lord, etc.? Who cares if Battlehawk, Trog, or Zenith are exclusive or not? I have archived most of my Chapter 1 and 2 Battle Pass skins because I know I will probably never use them unless some unforeseen niche situation occurs. If Sparkle Supreme hit the item shop today, would anyone remember that she was from the Season X Battle Pass? If I entered the lobby using Maya, would anyone notice? If I use the "wave" or "salute" emote from Chapter 1, would anyone recognize them? I main as the Blue Squire and most players don't even treat me differently or single me out, a few rare players do, and I was once eliminated by a Black Knight, and emoted with a Royale Knight in Team Rumble once, but those are the exceptions. Most of my Chapter 1 friends left Fortnite years ago, and I gave up trying to rally them back long ago. I do understand the joy of having an exclusive skin, and what it's like watching that exclusively suddenly vanish without warning. The Paradigm is one of my favorite skins. And if anything, I use her more now because of her og edit style. Just because She was accidentally returned to the item shop doesn't mean that I don't find value in her anymore. And even if my favorite og bp skins return, I still value mine, the work I put into unlocking them and the other memories of them. And who knows, maybe I'll finally finish my Carbide. If these old Battle Passes returned, and that's still speculation if they will, does it really detract their value? Account selling is illegal, so there's no real monetary value here, just whatever value you assign to these skins.

[@Kuujota]

Here's my honest answer on what epic's should do..i think if they do bring back old battles they should only be too people who didn't finish the tiers because its making zero sense now keeping skins or alt styles locked away forever when they are payed for and second i also feel people who played a season within that time and max out the free part of the battlepass and gotten emotes and some cosmetics should also have a chance at a old battle pass because think about it it makes zero sense you have a skin glider or backbling from the free part but not the skin ..SO if epic does it like that the passes can still stay exclusive because there only being access to those set of people

[@jackdobrowolsky8375]

That was for the item shop but that won’t be the case since it’s a mode

[@PuppetOne]

I kinda just think the 7, other story important characters and crossovers should either have item shop redesigns or re-releases like idunno it seems a little dumb to have story important characters and crossover skins from other media to be It’d be awesome to see the 7 all designed to be in one specific art style instead of having them kind of look the same but not really Idk I just think it’d be neat :]

[@Nighto]

I hope they bring back old passes. From a personal standpoint, I just want the Skye skin and that's it. From a less selfish one, why wouldn't I want people to be able to play as Doomguy? Why would I want that to be exclusive to me and others who both played and bought it during Chaper 4? I get they made a promise that would be exclusive, but I can't imagine being angry about that promise being broken if it means more people get to have more enjoyment with the game. I also don't get the, "If it happens, I'll uninstall." You'd uninstall because people can finally buy a 5-6 year old skin? If that's enough to make you quit playing the game, why exactly are you still playing it..? I mean this genuinely because if that's all it'd take, you're probably not actually enjoying the game.