Catalonia independence from Spain explained in 4 minutes (Catalonia referendum 2017)

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[@EpimetheusHistory]

READ THIS!! Misstated "Catalan Kingdom of Aragon" New updated version of the video, updated drawings & narration ( I am not sick anymore! ) Fixed a couple misstatements and unclear statements pointed out to me in the comments :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp22gqN5bJeteas

[@jimbobmeeko5908]

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[@morganlyle7029]

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[@Agallizo]

Did you said in the 0:42 Catalogne KIngdom of Aragon?

[@IVANADAMAS]

Many lies in this video mixed with truth. It's not the actual history. Please consult official documentation. Pro-independence in Cataluña are spreading a false history to obtain support from Europe. Don't believe this shit!

[@LinuxWin]

you should delete this false video and just leave the new one

[@rabby77777]

I DIDNT REALISE PORTUGAL HAD A OLD MANS FACE AS A COUNTRY

[@paulozhan]

I thought that was Australia!

[@grapetree7219]

I can see a old man face with an weed Africa hairstyle. lol

[@grapetree7219]

Mr Portugal is a old man with a Afro hairstyle coloured in weed spray. lol

[@grapetree7219]

Mr Portugal have a Afro hairstyle coloured in weed spray lol

[@chrisoghenetegamaloney5799]

+Rafael TV Italy is what? Nigeria is feminine..

[@90kuky]

I just noticed that Portugal is shaped like human face looking to left while Spain like his hair :D

[@EpimetheusHistory]

haha, it does. Good description

[@riki4644]

Thanks fuck you\

[@egillskallagrimson5879]

And if you look to the right is the face of Elvis The King, with Valencia as his nose ans Catalunya as his toupee xDDD

[@jorgeh.r9879]

Haha yeah. Us Iberians think about it all the time.

[@BingusBongus362]

Yo bro it actually does

[@mortystation]

I am from Spain, I know my country´s histoyry, and few important things that are told in this video are not true. I will list some. 1- Castilla y Leon didnt exist as a kingdom. Castilla and Leon were 2 different kingdoms that once united took the name of the first one, even if people from Leon dont like the fact. Castilla y Leon is the new name of a big region (comunidad) in the northern half part of Spain. 2- Aragon was not a Catalan kingdom. Catalonia was a very important piece of Aragon at that time. The duke of Catalonia got married with an Aragon princess, thus, becoming the king of Aragon. The king was catalan, right, but the nature of the kingdom, with 500 years of hisory at that time didn´t change at all. Their son and succesor was Fernando of Aragon, and this guy was born, like most kings of Aragon, in Zaragoza , Aragon´s capital, which is completely out of Catalonia.Think that even different language (fabla) was been talked in Zaragoza; different than catalan or castellano, and remained like this for many many years. 4-This is not false, but it would be nice if you explain that, in Spain, the money produced by every single region is redistributed to try to equalize the economy of all these regions. The region with the higuest deficit (paid taxes - incomes) is Madrid, followed by Catalonia and Vaskland. In Catalonia taxes are the same, but less money is sent back, in benefit of poorer regions. So the rest of Spain do not benifit from this, only few regions.

[@heinrichvonhachtenbuchler3167]

4: Same crap as in whole Europa as well as in my country Germany. I never understood why countries, states or cities that are managed well and therefore have a good economy should be punished by receiving less money. Instead of forcing the less productive parts to advance their management, they are encouraged to keep their bad management because they are going to get subventions. But I suppose I am quite alone in Europe with finding these socialist concepts wrong. But I am not surprised about this conflict.

[@Undecim33]

kieran carpenter Mexico, Netherlands....and Hispaniola, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Philippines, Colombia, Venezuela, Perú, chile, Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Florida, etc etc etc

[@RealCanio]

Good history 👌

[@TheAbsoluteLiimon]

Hee............... en el punto 4 te has jartado un poquito, el corralito vasco eso no lo mencionas no? lo de que cotizan más por el hecho de nacer ahi, eso no verdad? Y si hablas de financiación y de regiones que ponen mucho más de lo que reciben podrias hablar de Valencia que tenemos los presupuesto más ridiculos de España.

[@wootoo6304]

Marcos Torroba, Good explanation, thanks for that. The video always talk about “Catalans“ and not “independents catalans” , people must know that lees than the half of catalans are supporting the Independence movement and its because of that is a big conflict. The minority (the independents) are forcing the situation

[@dvderif]

Most people don't believe me when i say Portugal is a must older country than Spain. People just assume that became his own state, like Catalonia is trying to do. In truth Portugal was already a country when the rest of the Iberia Peninsula was divided in several kingdoms. Portugal as a country dates back to 1143. Spain only became a country in 1516.

[@jabasto]

I believe you.

[@dvderif]

Like it said, the Iberian peninsula was divided in several different kingdoms each one with their own king, flag, army and language, Portugal being one of them, like Leon. Spain didn't existed until 1516. This doesn't has to upset you. It's just history.

[@dvderif]

The "Visigoth Kingdom", also included the southwestern of France and that has nothing to do with current Spain. And if we are going that far, Lusitania, the territory of what Portugal is today, was also a kingdom that existed, and that pre-dates the Romans. So, even that makes it older. But i'm not going all that back. Portugal as a country dates back to 1143. Spain only became a country in 1516. Period. Just because the word "España" - invented in 1516 - was inspired by what the romans called the iberian peninsula (Hispania) it doesn't erase the fact that the Iberia Peninsula was divided in several kingdoms, with different monarchs, during the first period of the middle ages, and that Spain didn't existed then. If the European Union were to suddenly became a single country called Europe, that wouldn't change the fact that, before, Europe was divided in several different countries.

[@dvderif]

LjFJDhs - And Lusitania didn't include 90% of that is current Spain territory!!!!, but apparently, according to you, it doesn't matter that the Visigoth Kingdom had parts that are now France, but it matter that Lusitania had part that are now Spain... Where is the consistency in that?! The "concept" term you are trying to input is ridiculous. The Visigoth kingdom disappeared during the moorish settlement in the peninsula and that lasted seven centuries (Well, for Portugal is was only four centuries less since we kicked them out way faster). It seams you are trying to erase parts of history just to created this idea that Spain, as a country, has existed since 500's and that's not true at all! Spain only became a country on 1516. Before that, the Iberia Peninsula was divided in several kingdoms - including the moorish. Period. And it's obvious that you care about this, but it doesn't has to upset you. Like i said before: It's just history!

[@dvderif]

LjFJDhs - Dude, "Hispania" was the roman name for ALL of the Iberian Peninsula, not the name for what it is Spain currently. And just because the current word "España" was borrowed from that term, that doesn't erase thousand of history of several kingdoms, including the moorish. If Portugal was named Lusitania, borrowing the word that was used for this part of the peninsula - even before and during the romans - it wouldn't still be able to say that the country dates back to 100 BC. No, because our first king only funded what is currently our country in 1143. That's it. And Spain was only funded on 1516. You will find this information on any history book.

[@thesoulofthemachine9371]

Hello, as a Catalan I must say the information given here it is not accurate at all. Firstly, there was no Catalan kingdom but only Aragon; Catalonia was a region of the Crown of Aragon and had its own local aristocracy and law. Secondly, Aragon was not conquered but "aqcuired" by Castilla as a result of aristocracy business. I'm sad to admit that Catalonia has no historical reasons to split for Spain. Please review your sources.

[@DerAua]

Their might not be historical reasons. There are cultural ones today though. The Carolinians are a different culture than the Spanish. They can only survive as a unified whole. If the people gets replaced as per the EU plan by welfare migrants you will lose all these advantages and you province will turn into one of the "shithole" countries. I wish you good luck, however. Even though we may disagree.

[@bilbohob7179]

@Jim Morrison Sorry, Barcelona fight was for an spanish king, and the enemy was another spanish king. Sucession war or civil war (european war??)... not spain vs catalonia...

[@imgonewiththewindfab]

It was not labelled as Catalan .. Look at the screen its Aragon...

[@selaud3229]

@@imgonewiththewindfab the only autonomous community that has rights for independence is the Basque country tbh

[@anntares172]

@@DerAua Laughably poor excuse. Every country has a variety of culture and dialect/language variety. Spain has as many distinct regions, cultures, language differences as much larger countries in a smaller space. To think of Spain as uniform outside of Catalunya is a mistake. From Galicia to Andalusia is very different. (This video misses that some regions are still sore that Franco repressed variety in favor of uniformity. The generations that experienced this are dead or dying so you could almost say it's second hand feelings.) Perpetuating stereotypes and propaganda is not helpful. Catalunya is not anymore "hardworking" than the rest of Spain. It benefits from geographic and economical advantages. Much like states where city centres produce more economic opportunities and therefore more taxes, which are then disturbed where needed most like in more rural areas to boast education, public works, jobs, ect. This is how you create a strong country where everyone has equal opportunities, less draining of parts of the country to flood urban centres, and how not to create basically a peasant class.

[@AzulMistico]

"Castilla" does not mean "castle".... that would be "Castillo". It just translates as Castille.

[@theangel3232]

"Castilla" (Castile) means land of castles.

[@poliestotico]

@@theangel3232 castilla is castilla

[@imo6927]

@@theangel3232 No

[@HBKnowItAll]

Castilla is the feminine form of Castle.

[@poliestotico]

@@HBKnowItAll Castilla no significa nada físico en castellano contemporáneo, habría que preguntarle a un linguista de Castellano Antigüo

[@cokaorcola]

I don't know if you have ever been to spain but the idea that the spanish government will let any part of the realm secede without a fight is frankly laughable

[@dragonfly1929]

SPAIN IS IN THE EU,SUCH PARTING WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED BY THE EUROPEAN UNION ,ITS STUPID ,WHOEVER STARTED THIS IDEA

[@MM-vs2et]

@@dragonfly1929 Or he just state his opinion, based on current facts that is happening in Spanish politics

[@DP-qm6qe]

It's because Spain isn't a fully united country and there's lots of regions which aren't Spanish so if they set a president then Spain would risk disintegration. But arguably catalonia should be let go same as the basque region.

[@anon2427]

ART DECO Eu Is shit

[@Tomartyr]

They still haven't even accepted Gibraltar.

[@aprado17]

Hi - you are using the wrong flag for Catalonia. The flag with the blue triangle and the star is not an officially recognized flag. The official flag of Catalonia is simply the red and yellow bars, no blue triangle.

[@LunchboxSandwich]

He is talking about independence so...

[@baranguirus]

As an independentist myself... You have a good point there.

[@aRodegarius]

No, flag with red and yellow bars is the flag of Aragon.

[@manuelrenedo8632]

Roger RoRo it's a similar flag

[@aRodegarius]

Manuel Renedo G It is so similar because Catalonia take it from Aragon, but it always has been the flag of Aragon

[@danyamoros]

Catalan Kingdom of Aragon??? No, it was aragonenses kingdom of Aragon, Catalonia it was just a part of Aragón

[@EnegeNG]

I think you might have some kind of confusion. The king of the crown was Catalan. The Royal Court was in Barcelona. The people of the original kingdom of Aragon were the servants of the lineage of catalan "comtes". The conquered lands of Valence and Balearic Islands spoke Catalan because of that.

[@JavierPerez-hj7rv]

Daniel Amoros the daughter of the princess of Aragon married with a count of Catalonia, ever exist a royal Catalan family

[@EnegeNG]

javierperez Perez it was a royal catalan family as it was catalan, it spoke catalan and it lived in barcelona, they had catalan names, what they conquered spoke catalan, so yeah, pretty catalan to me. Following the same reasoning the spanish king is french.

[@EnegeNG]

Nothing to learn here. Nothing of what you said means anything. Spanish royal family is originally French. The king at one time he was French. Not anymore. Now he is Spanish. With the Catalan the thing is even better. Aragon had no king, and they married their princess with the catalan ruler. Peronela d'Aragon married Ramon Berenguer who became king and the cohort stayed at Barcelona. With all 100% catalan lineage. Learn history.

[@EnegeNG]

man there's no need to be offended. I don't make up things, this stuff is in books FROM BACK THEN and they have always been known. It's easy to find the references for that. I mean, I don't know where the problem is. I know spanish people has been told that catalans make up history to say that there once was a "catalan country". It didn't exist, and i don't think anyone believes it or thinks it is important. But credit where credit is due. The kings, after the union, were catalan. And catalans were the rulers. Period.

[@madeiranmarvel2116]

Technically Spain and Portugal were still separate countries during those 60 years... they happened to share the same king (Filipe 1 and Filipe II) but not the same Courts or borders. It was due to Filipe II not respecting what his father Filipe I had promised the Portuguese when he succeeded the throne (Portuguese running the Portuguese Court and being different nations with different languages) that Filipe II's reign in Portugal ended in a coup. He tried to conquer Portugal with the help of the French but Portugal defeated him with the help of English. The map should show different borders during those 60 years.

[@rafaelmelo2576]

Madeiran Marvel Actually France helped us in the Restauration War...

[@martinecrazyhouse6360]

And the Dutch supported the Portuguese as wel, they tought me at school. For their own strategic and trade interests, of course.

[@moledo39]

Maybe in Europe, because in overseas dutch and portuguese were bitter ennemies, specially in Brasil and the african territories of modern Angola. France and Spain were at war until 1659.

[@AurioDK]

Yes, those drunken Brits .... I owe them my nationality, I feel the shame. :)

[@joaoduarte_com]

Madeiran Marvel also Filipe III :) I mean, our Filipe I was their Filipe II and so on. There were three consecutive kings named Filipe in our (Portuguese) history and four in their (Spanish) history... :)

[@JoaoMariaNunes]

we the portuguese , were lucky it was due to spain fighting the catalans, theyr army was dispersed and we regained our independance back in 1640, our thanks and our hearts , to them...GRACIES

[@jorgealves8578]

Agora imagina que tínhamos ficado sob a regência dos castelhanos!!! Andávamos na mesma luta que os catalães!!!!

[@JoaoMariaNunes]

precisamente...

[@JoaoMariaNunes]

the spaniards roasted our best ships , on the stupid Invencible armada

[@hoselui]

The independence of Catalonia explained in 5 seconds: "we are richer than the rest of the country"

[@xangarabana]

Básicamente

[@lluisbofarullros3223]

+hoselui richer because wiser. Wiser because.... look at how behave majorities in Europe and why.

[@hoselui]

​@@lluisbofarullros3223 els jueus van ser uns pàries fins que van crear el seu propi estat a base d'ous cosa que us falta als catalans básicament

[@bigozimak]

This reminds me so much of Yugoslavia, it is Scarry, because we all know how that ended. Madrid is worried with good reason, because after Catalonia it could be the Basque country etc. I am not saying they should not have independents, it's Just, once the domino falls, it's hard to stop. All the best to every one in Spain.

[@doublegi2880]

Well not really like Jugoslavia. We all joined Jugoslavia by our own choice and left it by our own choice and serbs tried to stop us from doing it. The only comparison this has to EX YU is Separatists on Kosovo rebelling vs Serbia.

[@marcydarcy]

this is not even close to the yugoslavia war-reasons back in the days.

[@OmmerSyssel]

Marcy D'Arcy Unfortunately yes.. There is several local nationalistic groups within EU. Corsica, Scotland, Flemish & what have we.. A united & stable Europe is better than several spoiled ideological hotheads running there exclusive agenda. Look at this nonsense going on in Catalunya, there is nothing serious to complain about exept romantic feelings. Which serious discrimination are they suffering from? Negotiations & acceptance could solve the situation. Instead ideology blew the fire

[@sastrauch713]

Michael Aleksovski Don't worry, this is not like Yugoslavia at all, the rest of Spaniards don't want any war, this is just a fight between Spanish government and Catalonian government.

[@sastrauch713]

Kat Wilson yeah Slovenia is nice

[@adrianramirez221]

I know this is an old video, but "León" the Spanish region and "león" the word for "lion" actually have different origins. the region of León takes its name from Llion, which itself takes its name from the Latin "Legion," as it was a the base for the Roman Legion VII. later on they took the lion on as a symbol out of coincidence.

[@HippasosofMetapontum]

lol :D funny

[@end8316]

Cool “Llion” is a common welsh name

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Changing Airport USD SGD

[@KhallelaB.]

Sir you just skipped over the whole Spanish Civil war like it wasn't important.

[@Adrarll]

"Leon" in this case, isn't from the Latin for lion. It's from the vulgate for Legion. Specifically, the Seventh Legion based at Leon.

[@Jessica-tr4ir]

In Portugal we say Kingdom of LEÃO (Lion) e Castela. We don't say Legião (legion) e Castela

[@Adrarll]

@@Jessica-tr4ir It's all part of the evolution of language. Close to me here in Wales, is an old legionary base that's called Caerleon. The first part is the Welsh contraction of 'Castra'. The second part is what so many ex-legionary bases ended up being called. The Romans have a long hold over us.

[@henriquerodrigues7234]

And my friend, you are wrong at one thing: "The entire Iberian Peninsula was unified" 1:47, that's kinda wrong due to the fact that Portugal, wasn't really, really, really unified with the kingdom of Spain because the kind Fernando I (II in Spain) told the Portuguese Cortes that we were indeed the King of Portugal, but he let the portuguese people still talk Portuguese, assemble the Cortes wenever the nobleman wanted, Spain would only have an "ambassador" in Portugal representing Spain. Sooo.. it was like the Kingdom of Portugal, and Spain, but at the time was Spain territory (still seperated).

[@EpimetheusHistory]

You are right. I way oversimplified that, to the point were it is not technically correct. I made an updated version of the video were I take that part out kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp22gqN5bJeteas Thank you for the kind correction :)

[@WILLIAN_1424]

In portuguese that union is called "União Ibérica"

[@hyperm8]

its not Fernando, Fernando is a completely different king. Felipe was the one who got the Portuguese throne.

[@truedarklander]

"the vasque region" >Points Navarra

[@G11713]

Nicely done. It is unfortunate that KZbin now clutters the last portions of a video with links, often obscuring meaningful content.

[@mpforeverunlimited]

Yeah I hate it too

[@rafaelmelo2576]

1:10 You didn't tell the whole story, because what happend there was that the legitimate heir to the trone, Joana (Daughter of the previous King), was overthrown by her aunt, Isabella, and because of this, there was a Civil war, where the Joana's side was backed by Portugal (while she was supposed to marry the King of Portugal, Afonso V) and France, while Isabella's side was backed by Aragon. The war ended up with a victory by the side of Fernando and Isabella on Land and a Portuguese victory at sea.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks for expanding on that! I should have made a longer video, I had no idea so many would watch. Thanks for the comment

[@teresamoore6286]

Juana la Beltraneja was supposedly ilegitimate

[@geopixels6886]

Rafael Melo *whole

[@Joelas2]

I'M CATALAN,IN CATALONIA 62% CITIZENS,WE ARE NOT INDEPENDENTIST.

[@isaacd4425]

the results on the 9N votes state otherwise guapo ;)

[@enzoac]

Catalonia is Spain. Catalunya és Espanya. Cataluña es España.

[@danieljimenezvelazquez3257]

Cosme Fulanito Correcto, Catalunya es España actualmente, todos sabemos mirar un mapa y decir la situación actual, pero que sea parte de España no es un argumento válido para no poder independizarse. Y así mismo te hago la pregunta, que problema te provoca que quieran independizarse?

[@user-iv8dj4hw1b]

Joshua Bufferson Illegal voting, not even half the population voted. It doesn't count, it was stated it didn't count weeks before the "referendum".

[@manuelrenedo8632]

Daniel Jiménez Velázquez Que sea parte de España, por qué no es un argumento válido? Es lo que dice la constitución.

[@Digital111]

Kingdom of "The Castle & The Lion" lol you could make a Game of Thrones-like show with the history of Spain..

[@theangel3232]

With all regions of Europe, in fact.

[@n0309]

well, george martin took inspiration from all this stuff. in the GOT world, spain would be dorne

[@konczk]

"Linguistic Differences" does not even begin to cover it. Catalan is a completely different language from Spanish, or Castillian, as it should be known. In fact, it is much closer to French and Sardinian. Also, Catalan is Spoken in the neighbouring provinces of Valencia and the Balearic Islands as well, so who is to say these provinces wouldn't want to join an independent and much richer Catalunya as well?

[@RickyPro888]

Where is Andorra? #upset

[@pedrolistacarey4880]

Between Spain and France.

[@EdMcF1]

Don't worry, Spain hasn't stolen it.

[@manuellopaganelli9123]

Stolen it? That region of Catalonia has been part of Spain since pre Roman times and many citizens from all over Spain live there and have been marrying with each others for centuries. Then have plenty of common things with Spain. Why would Spain let it go?

[@ctfrancia]

És als Pirineus :P

[@ctfrancia]

Catalonia is Madrid's cash cow, as many people see it. There are a lot of reasons why Catalonia wants to break away and there are still areas in the center that still have their facades chipped away from when Franco's bombs landed in the city, and Rajoy (and by extent PP) still hold many of Franco's ideals. Spain has the plan of just never talking about the civil war and still have a monument in Madrid dedicated to Franco and his generals.

[@yosoykal]

I believe this video is useful for non-spanish people and I congratulate the author for providing such a short but effective storyline. The author, however, misses a great point: catalan culture has been persecuted for more than 300 years now. People in the rest of the country do not understand why we use our own language and they firmly believe we should stop doing it and talk 'the real' spanish language. Instead of protecting the catalan language by taking it as part of the spanish culture, the government in Madrid has always tried to discredit it. That is, for me, the main reason why I will vote 'yes' tomorrow.

[@payares164]

Eso es mentira, yo incluso me atrevería a decir no siendo catalán, que el catalán debería ser la única lengua oficial de Cataluña ya que el castellano es algo que se ha introducido allí de manera un tanto "forzada". El fallo de España como país es que no funciona como el estado plurinacional que realmente es.

[@yosoykal]

Good comment, but listen about my experience: I am a native castillian-speaker, so I believe I am not biased towards catalanism. However, I can recognize a legitimate cause. I have seen many times how the catalan language is seen as a nuisance by the government in Madrid. I insist on the fact that the catalan language is not considered as a richness that is part of Spain, but as something that should be eradicated. In switzerland, the three main languages are official in the whole country. This is how other countries have saved the situation and I would like to see that in Spain. I would like to see the public buildings in Madrid having signs in catalan. I would like to see a prime minister that can speak two (or three / or four!) of the languages that are spoken in the peninsula. Unfortunately, that is very unlikely.

[@j.p.3345]

Exacto, el problema de España es que no hay unidad en diversidad, a nadie le gusta que le digan cómo tiene que hablar o sentirse, eso toca los cojones a cualquiera, si España dejara vivir, trabajar en unidad en vez de separar, los catalanes podrían sentirse porfin españoles y catalanes y andaluces y canarios y bascos, etc..una España unida por la diversidad sería maravilloso, el problema es que tú eres uno entre 40 millones que no piensan como tú y así está el panorama.

[@AbiGail-ok7fc]

At around 3:30, you have an arrow supposedly pointing to Basque Country. However, it points to Navarre. Basque Country is the coastal area immediately West of Navarre.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks, is pretty embarrassing especially because I have spent time there and I am part Basque (my family would be ashamed) Just made another version, (with my normal voice) was sick when made this one...was a bit raspy...hopefully is better :) tried to fix couple little errors to :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp22gqN5bJeteas

[@dragonfly1929]

Half of the BASQUE are in FRANCE ,Pertignean ,will they also ask for otonomy ?Well no they do not have much of an industry there !EU ,is not supposed to brake appart ,if SPAINE will not talk ,BRUSSELS WOULD HAVE COME IN AND CRUSH THE UPRISING !

[@xeli3046]

I think I found a new hobby: news-binging...

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Good hobby

[@songio77]

I disagree on the point that it's all about money. I'm Italian, I've been married to a Spanish Catalan woman and had my kid going through school in BCN, learning both Spanish and Catalan. I've had quite an extensive SpanCat experience. What I've observed with utter surprise in so many occasions (my wife's family is from Andalusia) is how much the simple existence of a Catalan language and identity is loathed by the mainstream Spaniards. Then, yes, there's all the rant about the money the Catalans want but that's a first layer. The core of the conflict is another. Long story made short: Spanish national identity was created as an extended Castillian identity, with some Andalusian and other regions folkloric add-ups. Being Spanish became intended as speaking Castillian, period. Other options heavily frowned upon or outwardly repressed. To be more clear, it's like if the English had offered the Scots not the merging into a superior British identity but had imposed them being just English. Anyone who has a Scottish friend knows how this could make him turn into a furious beast. Well, Catalans simply didn't feel fitting in that frame either and never have since. They have a distinct language and a strong identity that Spain accepts only if tamed, decaffeinated, subjected and marginalized to few fiestas with no more importance. Catalans have always answered no to that. They sense it as a form of cultural colonization. Spaniards have answered on their side with resentment, hatred and a huge tide of urban legends about Catalans committing all kind of sly iniquities and selfish injustices. The Catalans obtained an autonomous status as a nationality in 1978, with the right to defend their language and heritage but my experience is that the mainstream average Spaniard has never really digested that and trying to clip the nails of Catalans has been a profitable political stance especially for right party PP, harvesting millions of votes among all those that feel that Catalans are supposedly "breaking the country". Well, after generations of having to crawl hard to maintain their language and identity and after a very long series of no answers from Madrid, the Catalans are now heading for the door. I don't think that viable but I understand them. Most of my Catalan friends never thought about independence and now they don't look fanatic about a promised land or a holy mother country. What they most say is: "Que más podíamos hacer?" What else could we do? A far cry of frustration more than a nationalistic revenge. Solving the conflict would require not a new political pact but a general upgrade of the national image of Spain as a whole. Spaniards thinking of themselves in another way, more ample, more plural, more modern. Will that happen? For what I've learned, hardly...

[@hugomarrero7438]

Really, dude? You should talk with more people here, not only with catalans. And a Italian talking about a more modern image for a country, when you can see the conflicts and racism between north and south italians?

[@songio77]

Hugo, I totally agree with you: the Italian national image is far from complete and maybe will never be. We have our problems and if you have suggestions, you're welcome. That doesn't prevent me to hope for Spain an upgrade that might solve the conflict. Let me just put it in the simplest way possible: The image of Spain as a modern nation gets formed in the 19th century (as is the case for everybody: Brits, French, Russians, Greeks, Turks, Arabs, whoever). That's the romantic starting point of all modern nationalisms (and we are all nationalists to some extent, since we all have and love a Holy Mother Country of reference). Well my question is: how comes that a certain number of your fellow Spanish citizens didn't, or couldn't, see themselves reflected, identified in that image? That's a fact. Some didn't find themselves in that national and nationalistic identity and referred to another identity as more fit to what they felt. How did that happen? All due to the invention of a Catalan language and identity that never existed before? Are you clinging on to such easy propaganda? For sure that Catalans did everything possible to nurture their nationalistic ideals (as everybody else on this planet, Spaniards included) but is that all? A husband and wife in crisis is never a one-way responsibility: it takes two to dance a tango. My hypothesis is that Spain (as a nation, not as a state that existed since long before), has been created on a monolithic self perception that badly accepts different languages or diversities and that's the ground-zero of the conflict. If you put up a Club Spain in your neighborhood and say that everybody's welcome but not ginger-head people, well, if you're lucky, maybe there won't be such kinda people around but what if there were? Would you spend the next 150 years blaming, insulting, fighting with these "f***ing ginger-head schmucks" and pretending they color their hair or, as I suggest, it would be better to just upgrade your Club to accept ginger-heads? What's better? The core of this conflict, as I have perceived (and for sure that I'm not 100% right but something right I am), is that Catalans never felt really accepted in Spain (unless tamed and "spanishized", like coloring the hair of a ginger-head) and as I say, it takes two to dance a tango. Unfortunately, I see now with worry all people rallying in the streets in BCN in a very dangerous series of happening I don't support, at least not in this way, but I see also the avalanche of hatred that has been poured on Catalonia as an easy vote-racking strategy of PP and others during years, I've lived it, I've seen it with my eyes. As long as both Cats or Spans don't stop blaming the others and start taking their own responsibilities to sincerely solve the problem, there's no solution but a traumatic outcome.

[@filipvh6680]

Very good info. As being Flemish in Belgium, I recognize the frustrations of the Catalan people. And I can also understand the fear of the rest of Spain for losing the region. But resolving to violence will only make it worse. I bet there were a lot Catalan that were opposed the indepence, are now changing their mind when seeing how brutally they were treated.

[@yosoykal]

Thanks for this excellent summary. I totally see it as you do. Visca la terra!

[@robeeer2]

You jumped from 1714 to the death of Franco (1975) and then say that the independence is just for money... From 1714 to 1975 Catalonia has been represed, catalans have been tortured and killed, like jews for the nazis, lenguage forbidden, culture forbidden, traditions forbidden, etc... This is offensive and out of touch.

[@dolgy3762]

Well, one could say that at the cultural centre of the Crown of Aragon was Catalonia. All of the resettlement to the south, and west out into the sea was done by people who spoke some form of catalan (Standardisation being non-existant and any language in that time). As they went south they brought their language, that's why to this day it's still spoken in Elx (Elche in English) although not as it once was. The case is the same for out toward the sea, The Balearic Islands, Alguer in Sardinia, and historically in Sicily Catalan was widely spoken. When we talk about the Crown of Aragon, we ought not be seperating, it's silly and it's not constructive. We ought to be talking about the great achievements made by the Crown and it's people. The Crown itself was a very unique country of nations that's difficult to classify what kind of government it actually was (more like a federation). It was also a medieval super power, and if you did business in southern Europe, you for sure needed to know how to speak Catalan. We ought to be celebrating an incredible shared history between Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia and the Balearic Islands.

[@cvetkoiztriglav2612]

That's it. They put the name and a Kingdom, catalans did the rest (simplifying a lot). And what you say about some sort of catalan language, it's just what happened with the rest of modern languages before standardisation, it's and obvious fact. There are bigger differences betwen modern castillian dialects than between the catalan language dialects.

[@marceloorellana5726]

Aragón was not a Catalan kingdom. So wrong. It was an Aragonese kingdom with a Catalan county. Get that right because it makes a huge difference. There was never a Catalan kingdom. They were inside the Aragonese kingdom.

The Catalan Kigndom of Aragon? Oh my God! The Crown of Aragon! There has not ever been a Catalan kingdom. Not very well informed.

[@bushnineleven375]

Thats cuz catalans do not have king. !!*!!

[@RGNRK-rm1eq]

@@rabote007 Aragon was a very old kingdom, it had more than 1 king

[@patfernandez8262]

Extremely inaccurate history of Spain shown in this video. Plus, tax distribution in Spain is not uneven only with regard to Catalonia, as other rich regions like Madrid do contribute with higher amounts to the country´s budget (it happens in most nations - not all regions are equally rich). It is true that historicaly, some regions have retained some autonomy with regard to budget distribution, but this is not the case in Catalonia (nor in Madrid), so there is no possible historical claim here. The shocking part is that Catalonia is depicted as the most liberal area in Spain. One needs to know very well a country to say something like that (not just check election results, which can be influenced by characters more than by policies). This is a mere judgement of the author, and will not feel right to most Spanish inhabitants (it would feel right to say Catalonians are just as liberal as the next man, though). I personally think there is a responsability when uploading videos like this one, and inaccuracies and opinions can be regarded as fact, which is a matter of concern, and may be interpreted as adding fuel to a fire which is causing unlimited suffering to us Spanish. If this is the case, I would suggest the author to be more objetive. Should the case be that this is mere propaganda, I can only say that I am utterly disgusted with the way truth can be bent in the 21st century.

[@ilikedolphins3059]

Well u can't say that u we have no right to ask for independence.

[@anntares172]

Agreed and well said.

[@Nora-vm8hz]

@@ilikedolphins3059 But there has to be a LEGAL referendum in the whole country for that

[@guillem2039]

@@Nora-vm8hz wich is also impossible because Spain is not democratic

[@Joe--]

@@Nora-vm8hz Demonstrably false. When Scotland is given the choice for independence; the English have no right to vote in it. Same for Catalonia. That being said, good luck to the Spanish in holding their country together. Wish them the best because they have a lot of problems to overcome -least which is Catalonia and the virus.

[@SuperLdennis]

Too Simplistic. You jump from med evil times to after Franco's death. you missed the Spanish civil war. Catalonia and Barca provided men and materials that helped stall Franco for 3 years and were persecuted after. Barcas overthrow of army was in fact instrumental in stopping the coups from being immeadiately successful as was Durrittis Column where 8000 militia drove Barca to Madrid to stop the Capital from falling in 36. That legacy like the Basques experience in the Civil War no doubt has got a serious relevance on current situation.

[@alanschwartz7073]

Thank you for the explaination. Clean and simple for all

[@bapo224]

The kingdom wasn't calle Castille y Leon because it means 'castle and lion' it's because it consisted of the two former kingdoms Castille and Leon.

[@TalkToAmanda]

Thank you so much for this! I wish somebody would do a series of both sides saying good things about one another, even with this current situation going on.

[@ociboje5406]

Epimetheus, what a wonderful concize and effective explanation! thank you.

[@lordwolfgangjosephuskaiser6778]

This video is great and I thank you for this. But it's to short because I love the videos that take their time to explain the whole history and culture of Spain, Italy, Portugal, France, Switzerland, North Africa and Mauritania.

[@LordAini]

Make Europe Feudal Again!

[@EpimetheusHistory]

haha

[@conni70]

the Portuguese are the only group of people in the entire Iberian peninsula to have never been conquered by Castille & Leon..impressive

[@bigtuga4ever]

I think it's impressive Castille survived being our neighbor for so long. t hey were lucky to not have any spices. Otherwise

[@DudeWatIsThis]

Nope: Aragon and Navarre weren't conquered by Castille and Leon either. They were married into it.

[@oier2995]

they actually have

[@cs0345]

None of Spain was actually conquered by Castile and Leon unless it was Muslim. They expand through strategic marriages and state mergers through personal unions, which eventually happened to Portugal for a short period of time, so Portugal was ruled by Spain, but not conquered

[@DavidNilo-ss8gq]

​​@@cs0345True, but It does not match the independentist narrative, so let's ignore it, too inconvenient

[@lacrudarealidadduele3308]

Catalan independence movement: creating history since 1974.

[@lluisbofarullros3223]

+lacrudarealidad duele Hispanidad: castileanizing Spanish History since 1580s and still going on

[@indianarchangel]

Excellent video! I had very little knowledge about the subject and after watching this the news makes so much more sense. Thanks a ton!

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Awesome! glad you found the video :)

[@shathasalih4567]

Thank you very much youcovered everything in 3 minutes . love it.

[@almostcutmyhair9998]

There's one thing the spanish people will never understand, it doesnt matter if Catalonia was nothing in the past, what it does matter is what they want to be now. The catalans respect the spaniards their right to exist, but the spaniards in their own fascist minds dont respect the catalans to be whatever they want to be.

[@panzerrjcb]

Looks like a chapter from game of thrones with the lannisters point of view...

[@europa_bambaataa]

Uuuhhh, you arrived at 1975. Cool. But where's Andorra now, my dude?

[@DiocleciaTeixidor]

As a Catalan, I regretted Ferdinand to allied with Castillian. It is better for us to allied with the Moors back then. Now, we feel that our identity as Catalonian become distorted because of Spanish unification since it dominated over the identity of Catalan. You can see that some cities or regions that were controlled by Aragon use Catalan as their language and their identity, such as Alguero city in Sardinia, Italy. The only people that are really similar to us are the Occitans, no more.

[@DhaarioHD]

Well, moors are the future in cataluña, so you can feel better now. PD: look what catalans have done with valencia and our culture... That is TERRIBLE.

[@DavidJJames]

I want a trained cat with a human face like that Alfonso guy.

[@anaruizguti]

hahaha yes it has a funny face the dude.

[@fredysonrisas]

Cataluña jamás fue un reino. Cataluña, actuálmente, es la comunidad que más libertades dependientes de un país disfruta de toda Europa, y todos ellos se los ha entregado el gobierno de España. Es la única comunidad de España que no comparte el dinero que recoge de los impuestos de las empresas afincadas en Cataluña. Sin embargo ella si se beneficia de los impuestos que recogen las demás. Cataluña en la actualidad esta régida por un regimen totalitario llamado El Govern (el Gobierno de Cataluña) donde adoctrina a los niños desde tempranas edades en las escuelas, y donde se hace la vida imposible a aquellos que pretenden, entre otras cosas, usar la lengua oficial del país, el español (castellano) llegando incluso a tomar medidas agresivas contra estos.

[@doverclocked]

hay un poco de comentario en tu estupidez... la duda está entre si eres realmente inculto o simplemente quieres desinformar y generar odio hacia esa gente que tanto asco te produce...

[@mariacaballero1689]

Señor Kraw parece que te falta algo .... SE BURLA EL CIEGO DEL SORDO !!

[@juanmagallego743]

UNA GRAN VERDAD.SI SEÑOR.FRANCO LES PUSO LA SEAT.FRANCO LAS AUTOVIAS HOSPITALES FABRICAS.MAS DE 2 MILLONES DE EXTREMEÑOS Y ANDALUCES MONTARON LO QUE ES CATALUÑA.LES COMIERON EL COCO A SUS NIETOS DANDO ODIO A TODO ESPAÑOL.TIENEN LA COMUNIDAD MAS CORRUPTA DE ESPAÑA.LLENA DE ENCHUFISMO Y PUESTOS ABSURDOS COMO EMBAJADAS...EMBAJADA PARA QUE????UNA COMUNIDAD EMBAJADAS Y EMBAJADORES Y NO TIENEN PARA ESCUELAS Y HOSPITALES...

[@willyvidal3877]

FX Sonrisas desinformado... adoctrinado...o simplemente ingnorante.

[@willyvidal3877]

Juanma Gallego si de cajon........ingnorante con adoctrinio.

[@cutefunnylemar2856]

Pleessseee. you obviously do not know Spain. I am not Spanish, but I travel in Spain from North to south, my country has an invisible border with Spain, we cross to each country any time of day or night without any difficulty. I can tell you that Spain from North to south is a beautiful, developed country, with the most wonderful human beings on the planet. The country is just rich. You can live in Spain and feed yourself with leftovers of the fruit and vegetables left in the fields. After the harvest, so much is left over that people just can go and get what they need. In other hand Spanish people are very proud, and should be. I have been in may countries, lived in 4 and can say that Spain is the best country in the world. The poor have a quality of life that only the rich can afford in America. The reason they will not give independence to Catalunia has nothing to do with taxes, but with pride and History. Too much Spanish blood has been split to make ESPANA, the SWORD OF SANTIAGO, that's the meaning of Spain.

[@lordcommandernox9197]

Lots of Spanish blood spilled for nothing in Portugal too... Some people never learn. I Wish every culture and identity their own freedom of expression. Spain wishes to call Castilian "Spanish" and abolish all other spanish languages. I'd be pissed off too. Spain isn't that perfect.

[@rosered3920]

What movie did you watch? LOLOL

[@DerAua]

The reason "they" don't want to give freedom to Catalonia is the EU plan to replace the beautiful and strong Catalonian culture with uneducated welfare migrants.

[@gonzalovicente330]

You said catalan kindom of Aragon. But thats not right. Aragon was a kindom, and catalan was only on county inside that kindom. Catalan was important as it got economical importance, but no more than that. Is just a detail, but Fernando never get goberment of the union of castille and lion, his daugther Juana I the crazy was the ruler but of castille, but she was controled by other people who fight each other, Fernando fought to control Juana, but he lose against the Cardinal Cisneros. His grandsond Carlos I of spain and V on germany hereditage the kindom of Navarre, aragon, castille and ganade on 1516 and then is when spain was formed as one kindom (still needed portugal to get the right to be called Spain, but portugal join whit his son Felipe as you say on the video). one point to mark, is that when they lose their rights, it was not only catalan, but all spain. The new Borbonic king wantet to take out the confederate kindom that spain was, so he take the priviledges of all kindoms not only the ones on the county of Catalonia (he coudnt take all Navarre priviledges, but he did in the rest of all kindoms), One point important is that to that moment, the oficial language was latin. He put spanish as oficial language, and that get Catalonian angry, they say that he forbid Catalan launguage, but its not that way. Catalonian havent being the most liberal region in spain. They got priviledges on taxes and commerce, for example, in the XVIII century all spain got to buy textile from catalonia and they where forbid to buy from other places, that take to ruin Galician region which where stronger than Catalonia. The spanish inversion on Catalonia was higher than in the rest of spain, making that other regions couldnt develop so well as Catalonia. So by, the spanish goberment, Catalonia had always got priviledges. Actualy I think Catalonia independence would be good for the rest of spain, as it would help to other regions to develop after taking out the tiranic opression of Catalonia.

[@loboguardian2760]

Memnon que deu t'escolti noi!

[@multimeter2859]

If it makes Catalonia feel better, I always release them in EU4.

[@MCGodsGaming]

Yannik both

[@multimeter2859]

Yannik I release them as France, after attacking Aragon.

[@Peachrocks5]

I actually have only one tagged with one nation. Yup Catalonia! :D.

[@DerAua]

:-D

[@cs0345]

Waste of monarch points. Better to annex them

[@antonioperezcampos8066]

I cant belive it, YOU JUST KNOW A SHIT ABOUT THE THEME. Really? The catalna kingdom of aragon?? That have never existed, It was just the kingdom of aragon, Catalonia was just an small part of it. In the war of 18century to choose the Spanish king , it wasn't Spain vs catalunya, it was half of Spain vs nearly the other half, and like you said, the chooses the wrong "team"... Then, you say that catalony have been being rich since the mediavals ages... And the only reason of this is because SPAIN preffered to put all his company's and buissnes there,like Italy in lombardia and Germany in the Rhur zone, so they aren't really the Catalan wealth, is the Spanish one, and to concluid, the mith of saying Catalonia gives more that what they receives is mostly false, its true that they produce a lot, but not because they work better or harder , just because like I said before Spain putted all his industry there, and that's why... !!!Catalonia is the part of Spain which recibes most of the Spanish wealth.!!!! And their regional goberment is also the second most corrupt goberment in Europe, so that is the real main reason of why they want to leave, to live in a fiscal paradise where they can continue taking illegal money whitout consequences...

[@DreamerTrain]

His voice sound like any moment he'll say "That is how a Catalonian do"

[@ottomanmapper3502]

Support Catalonia from Turkey

[@mykhayloklen5194]

I think Catalonians are a nation without statehood, so according to the UN Charter they must have the right to separate and build their own state. Am I right in saying so? The main indicator of a nation is the language. If people have their own national language, they automatically have their national literature, theatre, etc. So, if one wishes to be nonpartisan having nothing at stake their, one should say: it’s none of our business, it’s up to the Catalonians to leave Spain or to live in the state of Spain. The most civilized “divorce of nations” I know of was in Czechoslovakia. Slovaks wanted to leave, Czechs had nothing against - and Slovaks peacefully left. I thinks it’s stupidity to try to prevent nations from building their own state - their own future. It sounds very much imperialistic - “stay with us - we know better how to make you happy”. But the world is full of different evil forces and evil politicians.

[@argentumtempestate9677]

Aragon isn't catalan... learn the history of Spain. All begins in the "marca hispanica" of Charlemagne. That's the diference with Castile, who came from the kingdom of Asturias.

[@Farto126]

When appears the Khalessy?

[@danileuenberger5620]

shes conquering the north right now..

[@ers586]

I really don't know enough about Spanish history to make a useful contribution to the debate. I just wanted to add a bit of history that might interest some readers: a daughter of Isabella and Federdinand named Catherine of Aragon married England's Henry VIII and was the mother of Mary Tudor, remembered as "Bloody Mary" for her efforts to steer England back to Catholicism.

[@RGNRK-rm1eq]

tbh Henry the VIIi was way worse with catholic remnants

[@Galimah]

Catalonia is Spain and will ALWAYS be Spain

[@bp4freak]

Only reason Spain wants to keep Catalonia is because it's a rich region

[@randalthor1955]

and maybe becuase there are millions of catalans who are, feel and want to remain spanish. Because its a rich region and it has a developed industrial economy its because they always have confront the central government and because they feel they can be autonomous. Its a materialistic reason, but it is totally tangled with manipulated history, old hates, and much much irrational feelings on both sides. I feel ashamed of how the nationalistic parties have lied to the catalans and how the official spanish point of view has treated the catalan language, culture and feelings too. Its a too sided pile of nonsense and wrongs. Too complicated to understand from outside spain....even from outside catalonia.

[@RTI124]

Galimah I'm pretty sure you are spanish because only a close-mind spanish can resume the situation in "Catalonia is Spain and always will be". Read a history book and think how is the situation. Because, my friend, there is coming a huge "party" again. Want or not, a lot of population is on the street right now and the things are going in a terrible way. Plus, this is making a lot of neonazis wake up. If you don't think that this could end in a civil war, you don't know nothing.

[@rayunseitig6367]

nice talk, Basque is interesting too. thanks much.

[@satanas6740]

Im Mexican and I have a certain level of loyalty towards another Spanish speaking country, but then I remember how they killed the Aztecs and I hate them, it sucks to be half Spaniard and half Aztec

[@josecarrera9106]

It should be disclosed that the reader is just an actor with a nice voice but he is just reading a manifesto. Obviously there is nothing wrong with that but the casual reader should know that this is just propaganda.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Jose Carrera Thank you for saying I have a nice voice! Manifesto...I wrote this on a paper towl...I think you are giving me too much credit :) This video in a nutshell is saying it is all about money-Catalans want more of it for themselves, Madrid wants to keep the tax situation the same...I don't state an opinion on what I believe. I find it hilarious I am getting so many angry comments thinking I am a Catalan nationalist because the flag I drew...or because I said the "Catalan kingdom of Aragon" Many people just get mad and imagine I am saying things I did not say in the video. I hope both sides work something out were they both benefit. Me Encanta España, espero que se mantenga unificado. But I do appreciate so many people thinking this was a paid propaganda piece without listening-I guess that means it looks good enough quality that someone would pay for :D

[@pg-ux6um]

3:20 a bit more to the left 😅

[@kosur7247]

we kashmiri people love and support you catalonia ....may God help u and be with u .... love and support from Indian illegally occupied kashmir. ...we kashmiri people are also fighting for our independence. ....

[@MaxHohenstaufen]

That's the same old story: guy gets rich, all of a sudden he's too good for his old friends. That's very common in all levels of human interactions, sadly.

[@palkap2157]

First of all, I would like to say that your historical vision is wrong. It does NOT exist a Catalonia kingdom of Aragon, but a kingdom of Aragon. Catalonia was nothing at that time. Catalonia does NOT pay a "disproporcionately high amount of taxes" but catalans get enormous benefits from the rest of the nation like industry, commerce and tourism, as well as the most part of all infraestructures made in the whole Spain. So, please, inform properly next time.

[@paulozhan]

Portuguese here. There is a lot of sympathy here for the Catalans and their cause, especially because we had to fight for our independence from Spain twice, and repel French Invaders that had Spanish logistic support a third time. We would also like to see Olivença and, to a lesser extent, Ceuta returned to Portugal, but nothing is done about it because mainly we believe in self determination, and both Ceuta and Olivença plainly chose to stay part of the crown of Spain after the wars. Unfortunately, on a state level nothing is going to be done and this sympathy cannot be materialised because of the current state of our relations - our cooperation with Spain greatly improves our economy and the lives of the citizens in our Interior (that is especially true during bushfire season). But as individual citizens, and probably as a society too, we send you all our love. "Es illegal" - it is only so because of Madrid's unwillingness to negotiate better terms, and I am pretty sure every autocratic has said the same every time a big change was about to occur. I am sure the Spaniards said the same about Portugal when we seceded from the Spanish crown during the 17th century - our fight was very much illegal.

[@DOMINNIMOD198]

Soy catalán y quiero protejer mi cultura y mi identidad separandome de mis hermanos españoles e introduciendo una gran cantidad de inmigrantes económicos de oriente medio con culturas claramente incompatibles con la libertad de occidente, y dandole subenciones para que tengan hijos mientras los ciudadanos catalanes no pueden ni permitirse una vivienda de alquiler, a que soy moderno? Jajaja salu2

[@ferbsol2334]

Seguimos en lo mismo 3 años después

[@lluisbofarullros3223]

+Rodd si, ja veig com escrius en catalá😂

[@leoneiraguerrini4755]

I watched the video until the 47th second when I heard the “Catalan Kingdom of Aragón”. That’s like saying the “Yorkshire Kingdom of England”

[@rachelsombo9045]

Catalonia was created by Charlemagne (Spanish March) the Catalan are more French than Spanish , Napoleon wanted to include Catalonia in France but the empire fell ...Catalan language is similar with French

[@timespaice]

War of the Spanish succession end up with conquest of Barcelona but it was Aragon/uk/Germany/Austria/Portugal /Netherlands/Prussia VS Castilla and France. So ppl must stop spreading lies about Catalonia and act like it was a kingdom.

[@montfrypan5904]

yes but, when the brother of the Austrian king die, he goes to abandoning the war to go to reign in Austria and with it all the others uk,germany,austria,portugal,netherlands,prussia, leaving only a few Spaniards and most Catalans pro-Austrians only against France and Spain.

[@jinetedelfenix]

Well of course I would like all the money from my taxes to be spent on my fucking selfish ass, but that's not how taxes work. I give into the community and I am assured that my community is well, so when I'm in need, I get payback.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

That would be my preference to Well...history is full of conflicts over taxes hopefully with España, se hace una solución pacífica. Eso beneficia a todos.

[@frontier6154]

The taxes from the catalans will be spend in Catlonia, not in their selfish ass. Woooooow is realy difficult to understan for a stupid person like you

[@pablogarciamartin9709]

i thing you are wrong. there was no war between Spain and Catalonia, and the name for this period of history (1702 -1714) is war of succession, not secession.. Succession means heir to the throne, and secession means separatist. Is a problem that everyone can tell the story without wanting to use truthful facts. please consult any library in europe or america to talk about the story.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

I say succession, listen again closer at 1:53 into the video :)

[@joserivas6163]

CATALAN KINGDOM OF ARAGON!!!!! Where do you get your facts, man??? Did you study in Cataluña or what??? Jajajajaa

[@cvetkoiztriglav2612]

Well, it was de facto the catalan kingdom of Aragon. Aragon only put the name, the desert and a few goats. The rest was built up by the catalan people. That's why catalan is spoken in Valencia, the Balearic Islands and Sardeny. If Aragon were something, today Mallorca, Eivissa or València would be a mañico party.

[@cubbman79cubster37]

One thing missing from the video - game of thrones sound track

[@arkitaliwenar7378]

When your geo teacher wants u to write 1/2 A4 about this vid of 4 minutes be like:

[@cspoke8937]

Ah yes, relatable

[@brokenbutler]

@3:18 That moment when you realise thats Navarra what the arrow is pointing to... How has no one even Noticed?

[@pedrobarbosaduarte3704]

bullshit, catalonia it's the province who has less taxation in the whole spain, they are just the richest, that's why they want independence, because they think they will still be rich when independente, butthey are only rich because they gain money from the rest of spain -_-

[@DerAua]

They want independence because their culture is suppressed. They want independence from a EU supported replacement by millions of medieval Muslims. They know that when their people get dispersed they lose their unity and strength which is the globalist plan!

[@mctellop]

Mostly I agree with the video, but IMHO there are some points that are not accurate enough and deserve be clarified. Aragon was not a Catalan kingdom but a kingdom composed of several regions, one of which was Catalonia. In all kingdoms there were communities that throughout history had a right to a certain level of self-control and this was practiced by their own rules and leaders, that they were chosen in their own way. It is not fair to say that Catalonia had a parliament and a constitution, because it seems to oppose the rest of the areas, when some other regions also had their own tools to govern themselves to a similar degree. The region of Catalonia is not paying a disproportionate amount of taxes for the size of the population. Taxes are paid by individual citizens, if a region has a high population composed of rich people, it will contribute much more than an empty region populated mainly by villagers. If we take Madrid as a reference, which is a similar region in population and wealth, we will see that the amount of taxes paid is also similar. I can understand the need to simplify things in a KZbin video, but when cultural and liguistic differences are mentioned, there is a mistaken idea with the concept of a unified culture in the rest of Spain. There are many other regions that have great cultural differences and maintain their own language, but it is true that most of them are not constantly claiming them. What I can not disagree with is the last conclusion. Catalonia is one of the most politicaly liberal regions of spain and without it conservatives would completly dominate politics. And perhaps that it explains why this spanish goverment ruled by conservatives did raise to the tribunals a demand against the law into the last catalonian statute who tried establise rules for a referendum (tribunals void that law from the statute) but never established a rule that could represent an alternative for the demands of many catalonian citicens. On the catalonian side political parties that are claiming for intependence would get more space for themselves out of spain, as after ,in an independent catalonia, those parties who are backing to stay in spain wouldn´t seem to have place. It is a shame to see how people who share so much are being radicaliced on both sides by their leaders who only seek their own benefit.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thank you for your comment, I hope many people read it :) That was a very rational critique I was able to fix a couple problems in this updated version I made more recently kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp22gqN5bJeteas "It is a shame to see how people who share so much are being radicalized on both sides by their leaders who only seek their own benefit." I completely agree I hope there is more dialogue and this situation get resolved by clearer heads... I was trying to make a short quick overview for my audience (mostly US Canada) was surprised how many views this got and mostly from Spain 60-70%...Also so many nasty comments cursing at me for drawing the flag with the star on it and saying "Catalan kingdom of Aragon"(that was a honest mistake)...I have been really surprised to get so many very threatening comments for drawing some stick figures (15-30 everyday) Thank you for your polite disagreement. :)

[@IceBloodKing]

Catalonia is part of spain

[@cloroformo1942]

IceBloodKing now no

[@lazypoo6117]

Most of the people living there would disagree with you

[@colinodomino6738]

It's a part of West Asia called Europe.

[@stonefaceBRC]

It's a part of earth

[@XVII-FEAR-GOD-XVII]

Not for long

[@joaosilva2827]

Portugal 💪💪💪

[@yosef6664]

“From the River to the Sea, (Mediterranean), Catalonia will be Free.”

[@bobanppvc]

Long live united Spain!

[@mariasanchezm.364]

:)

[@PM-ld4nn]

The highest debt in Spain, cames from Catalonia, right now.

[@cesarrubio3142]

All you are saying is half true: 1. In 1469 there were that 5 reigns, but they didnt split that year. And, Aragon WASN'T a catalan reign, if you go some centuries before, you can see that Catalonia was part of "France" (what we call "Marca Hispánica"), so saying that Aragon was a catalan reign is false. 2.The catholic kings didnt "conquer" Navarra, they joined freely. 3. In the war of Spanish succesion, not only Catalonia joined the wrong side, also Madrid and Toledo, and they don't want any type of independence. 4. Lots of that fame they have about their industry and aptitude of merchants and traders were won thanks to the kings of that "wrong side" that create a lot of laws forcing any other spanish territory to sell or buy everything from Catalonia, instead of letting them buy it from other parts of Spain or having to pay a 70% tax for importing from other countries. 5. Spanish State takes taxes from all citizens and enterprises of Spain and then with that money it distributes a part between ALL comunities and it uses the other part for things for the State, saying that it takes a lot of taxes from Catalonia to benefit the rest of the country is stupid. 6. When talking about "Euskadi" aka "The vasc region" you are pointing Navarra. 7. No, the catalans do nothing about conservation or not within the rest of Spain, they have the same hypocryte and corrupt leaders there are all over Spain. PD: I'm spanish, so my english is not as good as others, i'm sorry.

[@alexlefay]

There was no Catalan kingdom, there was an Aragon kingdom that included Catalonia? DUDE

[@alexandrosaiakides4539]

l command you for your chosen name "' ' Επιμηθεύς".

[@EpimetheusHistory]

You have named me :D

[@gabrielx5477]

"United for the first time" This is the biggest error people commit talking about history of Spain. Things in XVI century were very different to what are in the XX. Then, the different territories that became part of a king legacy was not united unless that king (or queen) had made an effort in that sense. I mean, a legislative effort. In Spain, this was not done until 1716, when Felipe V "punished" the territories of the Crown of Aragon and ordered they should lost their traditional legal structure (usually called "privileges") and adopt the Castillian one, as a unity. Aragon, Valencia and Majorca kingdoms had enjoyed his different legal structures, so Catalonia Principality did too. Officially as parts of the Crown of Aragon, independent to that of Castilla, but goberned by the same kings. So depicting in a map the current territory of Spain as united in the XVI century is an error. You should put different colors for the Crowns of Castille and Aragon until 1716. A first approach to this, here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Aragon Greetings

[@Odyseja2011]

So as always it is about money.

[@lamc1463]

I LOVE SPAIN AND SPECIALLY MADRID....BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY FULL OF CULTURE AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE

[@ilikedolphins3059]

Yeah he was talkin about catalonia not Madrid

[@ilikedolphins3059]

I guess madrid is ok

[@gemmasands4321]

Madrit[1] (pronunciato en aragonés [ma'dri], en castellán Madrid) ye una villa espanyola, Capital d'o estato. Madrit ye amás d'a capital d'o estato, a capital d'a suya provincia y d'a Comunidat Autonoma de Madrit.

[@RGNRK-rm1eq]

@@gemmasands4321 No me jodas que hablas chapurriao.:0

[@kclaytor2]

How could you possibly leave out their coolest period of Catalonia, when they ran themselves with participatory democracy during the WW II period? And leave out that the desire for participatory democracy is also part of the current issue? Even a Forbes article mentioned it.

[@Echani3007]

Lol i literally came for that

[@darkwolf1202]

A História dada em Espanha é muito interessante. Parece que inventaram tudo e existem desde sempre. Pena a realidade ser outra.

[@Peter-xs2mu]

You have a clear explanation, but the groaning voice gets irritating after a while.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Was sick when recorded that one, had to edit out the coughs Here is one with re-recorded narration (normal voice) and drawings :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp22gqN5bJeteas

[@Carlos271aht]

Im from Spain and you have not any idea of this. First of all, the Sucession War (1700-1714) was a sucession war between the interests of aristocraths. The catalan rich people feared loosing their privileges (fueros) by the rule of the bourbon dinasty (centralist). And it was not Catalonia vs Spain 🤣 It was the Aragon Crown, Portugal, Austria, England, and Sacry-Roman Empire vs Castile, Navarre, France and Bourgogne. It was a war between dinastic interests, not a civil war. The independence movements saw their birth in the earlys 1900. When the catalan aristocracy loose its power because of the lost colonies of Cuba, Puerto Rico and Filipinas in the USA-Spanish War (1895-1898) when they loose their bussiness in the colonies and tried to protest for more privileges. Today, the independence movement is charactered in the Pujol family, which is one of the most corrupted family in the History of Spain, still today anyone knows exactly how much money did they robbed when Jordi Pujol was the president of the Generalitat. Also, they control all the communications channels and Journals (Tv3, Rc...)

[@Samudil]

Viva catalonia Vive kabylia Viva Kurdistan Selfdetermination is a Right

[@dimitrijestarcevic7480]

Catalonia will always be spain ❤️greetings from serbia💕

[@Hungaria56]

Catalonia is NOT Spain! Transylvania is NOT Romania!