Epique E150HE Mini-Monster Subwoofer - a Quick Look

[@Toid]

I am loving the new Epique Drivers. They really look awesome!

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Me too! It's hard to convey how nice the fit and finish is and how much attention to detail Dayton put into these, but they are works of art. I'm going to feel bad hiding them in an enclosure. I may even do a sub where the magnet is outside the enclosure if it isn't TOO noisy mechanically speaking.

[@Kcducttaper1]

Can't wait to see some builds with either this driver or the 7" version!

[@BigTexRB]

@@Kcducttaper1 I want to see Zarbo build an array with the 7"'s

[@Kcducttaper1]

@@BigTexRB Oh, that'd be dope! Heckin expensive though!

[@goobisoft4873]

I have tangband one that driver is awesome too i was about to get peerless but tangband at that time was another level also loved dayton audio

[@MickeyMishra]

Lets be honest here. We just like BIG things. And we LOVE it when they BOUNCE! :-)

[@mpugne]

got the 7" in today it is a good looking driver. I put up a vid of it moving around but I need to put a test box together to see how it sounds.

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Are you able to link to your video here? I'm not a KZbin expert so I don't know if it's allowed or possible. Mean little buggers right? I think I'll do the same thing with the little monster... make a quick and dirty test box just to get a feel for the performance.

[@mpugne]

@@zarboaudioprojects1430 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iamrc3yXbqtjjbs I'm planning on using them as parts of a 3way in my tahoe so I'll throw together a sealed box to see how it sounds.

[@roygriend5143]

@@zarboaudioprojects1430 that would be nice, i really want to hear this speaker in an enclosure and the reaction of you...if it puts out high quality sound it is a driver in its own class with all those specs.

[@roccobruno8027]

That driver is a beast.

[@penttijakonen3817]

Looks very good. Thinking of putting 4 of the bigger versions in my car...

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

I imagine you would have some very clear bass with four of the 7 inchers!

[@penttijakonen3817]

@@zarboaudioprojects1430 I hope so!

[@wisconsingoldprospecting1716]

I have 2 in a little 4th order dialing it in has great SQ so far

[@UncleMichaelable]

We’re did you find the box?

[@wisconsingoldprospecting1716]

@@UncleMichaelable I built it didn't even use specs just made sure to use a 2:1 ratio lol

[@westreadwell9675]

Man you are relaxing to watch. Thanks for info

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Thanks! I'm a Preschool teacher by trade, so my Zarbo Audio Projects persona is like my 'alter-ego' I hope to have a finished subwoofer project using this driver in a week or a bit more.

[@kasperfb3317]

This woofer looks awesome for car audio. I'm planning on throwing one of these or the bigger ones to the front of the car. This would fit with a nice enclosure into my center console firing under the front seats

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Sounds like a good use. It moves a lot of air so I'd recommend a decent sized vent! Thanks for watching.

[@gerritgovaerts8443]

This would be a nice upgrade for Siegfried Linwitz's Pluto omni speaker . No more subwoofer needed with these puppies . Thinking seriously of buildin a set with these , active 2 way

[@Dreez76]

I'm planning on building new speakers using 4 of these in each for woofers with a sidemounted 10" passive radiator, 1x5" Mid and a band-tweeter.

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

That should be quite a nice setup!

[@hooknladdercharters]

“I think unboxing are silly… Having said that, let’s talk about the foam in this here box!”

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

You got me! Strangely, it's my most watched video by far. That's due to Toid Audio kindly mentioning it though, I'm sure.

[@Acoustic_Theory]

The problem with long-throw woofers in the midrange is that even if you can get the inductance and intermodulation distortion low enough, the large roll surround causes a substantial "edge hole" - a dip when the surround starts vibrating out of phase with the cone, sometimes followed by another peak above the dip if the surround is really active. This could be a subwoofer or a woofer but I think it would have trouble in the midrange.

[@kevinmc1111]

Good point that it may not be ideal for a 2-way, but this is true of many drivers termed subwoofer rather than midbass.

[@allmotorhash]

I want to use 2 of these for outdoor utv use need full range that is now limited by lower frequency

[@howardstever6676]

A Star is Born!

[@anandshah71]

Zarbo are you planning on doing a project on this woofers and comparison to peerless sub that you made

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Hi Anand. No, I'm not really. The Peerless sub is a much lower cost driver as you are aware. Besides being a LOT more expensive, the Epique sub is going to need a pretty big cabinet to get all that port in there if we don't want it to chuff... and since it's such a high-excursion driver, I think a design using it should be able to take advantage of all/most of it's excursion capabilities. I had a smallish tower design I wanted to use these in, but it might not work, so off to plan B. That's going to be awhile though. Thank you for commenting, I appreciate it.

[@howardstever6676]

Great job! First person I know on You Tube

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Hey Howard! Thanks for the feedback. I THINK I will end up using my pair of these subs in the bottom of a small 3-way speaker, but I'm not 100% sure I can do it due to the vent size needing to be kind of large. I guess we'll see what others come up with for this driver -- I don't think it will take too long to see it used quite a bit, right?

[@davidperry4013]

I want to see a twelve or thirteen inch version that plays high enough to build 3 way speakers with.

[@gregorymcgee100]

Absolutely, size matters! they should make these in a 12, 15, or 18 inch version.

[@fidstang]

Why not go with a quality Pro Audio driver?

[@nicholasgilson6745]

Could you use this as a midbass woofers if not what would you recommend I want to feel the kicks drum in my chest

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Nicholas, check out page 2 of the Dayton Audio spec sheet on this driver for the frequency response graph... I think it would make a pretty good midbass. www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/295-102--epique-e150he-44-spec-sheet.pdf It's pretty flat out to 4k, even off-axis it's respectable to past 2.5k.

[@johnlira3316]

How much power can it take and how low can it go

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

200 watts RMS and it will reach the low 30's with the right setup. It does need some power, though. How much power is more a factor of excursion I believe. It may not take 200 watts without blowing up depending on frequency.

[@bwithrow011]

Does parts express sell an amplifier and cabinet for this driver?

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Not specifically, at least they aren't advertising any as such. It may be that one of their flat-pack boxes could be a match, but I'm not sure that anyone at least on Tech Talk has gotten that far with it yet that I've seen.

[@thanapoll.849]

2-way design around 82-83db with high watt power amp might be nice. or 2.5way floor standing seem very good.

[@UncleMichaelable]

Can I use these for car audio?

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Sure. They have dual 4 ohm coils so you could run the coils in parallel for a 2 ohm load which is just about perfect for car audio sub duty. Also, I think someone has used the larger version as a mid-bass in a car situation. Here is a link to that page: www.parts-express.com/Epique-E180HE-44-7-DVC-MMAG-Subwoofer-4-Ohm-per-Coil-295-104 Thanks for watching!

[@vadakootnikhil]

is this for car or home? ty

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

It could be used for either. Dual 4 ohm coils could be wired for 2 ohms for car audio or 4 ohms for a low-reaching MTM home speaker. Lots of options!

[@marisoldiaz8425]

I love that driver

[@michaelschneider-]

Man,,, two full minutes of a packaging primer! .WTF? .. Came to hear you're $.02 cents regarding the controversial Dayton Epique 5.25" LF driver. ..

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

I've worked it out a bit with a smaller sub amp, but I haven't been able to work it out sufficiently to really stress it, nor have I built a box for it yet. I have a plan for these to implement them as a woofer in a three-way design already underway. That's a way off, though. Controversial? Because it's a little pricey? Not sure on that one.

[@ben23a31]

Would of appreciated frequency specs tho. Btw it's pronounced : Epic.

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Here is a link to the PDF on the product page. Sorry, I haven't had the opportunity to break it in and frequency test it myself yet. www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/295-102--epique-e150he-44-spec-sheet.pdf I've actually heard it pronounced 'Ep-EEke' from PE employees in the past, not with this driver, but the other discontinued Epique woofers. But Chris P did seem to go with the standard 'Epic' pronunciation, so that's how I'll say it from now on. Makes life easy too. :) Thanks for watching my video and commenting!

[@ben23a31]

@@zarboaudioprojects1430 wow, cool. Thx 👍🏽

[@do_italldayeveryday820]

For what application is this use?

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

This was designed as a subwoofer, but has clean enough output higher in frequency to be used as a woofer as well. I plan on using it as a subwoofer, however.

[@do_italldayeveryday820]

@@zarboaudioprojects1430 for home or car audio?

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

@@do_italldayeveryday820 For home or car audio?..... Yes. Wire the two 4 ohm coils in series for an 8 ohm load for a home speaker or subwoofer setup, or wire in parallel for 2 ohms -- perfect for a car audio subwoofer.

[@do_italldayeveryday820]

@@zarboaudioprojects1430 🤔 is very small I am curious about how perform they look like busyness on car audio applications.

[@tech4life884]

It's pronounced the same way as " Epic".

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

Yes... like I said, I know that. But Parts Express got fancy with the spelling, so I got fancy with the pronunciation... Can't a guy take a little poetic license? :) You're 100% right, though, Chris Perez pronounced it 'Epic' just like you mentioned.

[@MARVELOUDIO]

By doubling the excursion the coil it gets four times more electric power ... in reflex loading that could burn up the coil quickly! So don't get too excited about the Xmax .. you don't want to kill your new toyz boyz , don't you?

[@squadboitv6284]

Too much talking about the foam.

[@JohnDoe-cv8iw]

I'm not a fan.

[@cemyalcin3062]

100 dolars too much. We live in Turkey. The average Turkish citizen earns $100 a week. ARE YOU JOKE ???

[@Aaron.13]

Everything is relative. I consider $100 very cheap for this and wish it was that cheap in Australia..I spend $100 when me and the mrs go out for dinner so it’s good value I think..

[@cemyalcin3062]

@@Aaron.13 it's not fair

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

I'm not too familiar with the currency of Turkey so I can't really understand the value difference very well. It is a higher-priced driver for sure, but it's very nice performer and gorgeous looking as well, which is why it's priced so high. Similar performance can be had in 7-8" subwoofers for probably half the cost of this driver, but this is what I would consider a 'special' driver for a 'special' project, not a run-of-the-mill subwoofer by any means.

[@zarboaudioprojects1430]

@@Aaron.13 I have a friend in Australia and he mentions the cost of getting speakers shipped to him... it's unbelievable the price difference, sometimes 4-5 times what I pay in the US. I think shipping costs are a lot of it, but WOW, you guys really have to pay-up if you want to DIY some speakers right? :)