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[@george53691]

my favourite podcast ever

[@Kokurorokuko]

I thought of another counter-argument: if God is an almighty being, wouldn't he know that you're faking believing in God? So there's no point in faking it. You either believe or not.

[@tahmkenchusta5852]

I don’t think that matters if you follow the doctrine as it’s intended

[@psychurch]

Would pay to hear op have a conversation with jehova’s witnesses 😂

[@Nyght-08]

I was hoping to hear a much better counter argument

[@asoulist4829]

It just fails in every way at every point.

[@christinemartin63]

Yeah but you have to lie to yourself and pretend--again 🙄.

[@brianw.5230]

7:00 Christianity is different than other religions because its based on Jesus's resurrection.

[@markoslavicek]

Maybe different from few most popular religions today, but not from all religions in the world or all religions in history. Orphism, among others, also believes in ressurection (only not of Jesus but of Orpheus and Dionysus). No religion is an island and Christianity was equally so influenced a lot by its context.

[@brianw.5230]

@@markoslavicek were they real historical figures like Jesus was?

[@markoslavicek]

@@brianw.5230 To ancient believers, yes, they probably considered Orpheus a historical figure. But to give an another example from a similar context, Pythagoras is widely regarded and accepted as a historical figure just like Jesus, and the religion/philosophy based on his teachings - Pythagoreanism - believed in transmigration of souls and that Pythagoras was reborn. We can argue that this is closer to the concept of reincarnation rather than ressurection, but there are other examples in Eastern religions and elsewhere. The story changes the form and characters, but the idea of overcoming death and material existence remains the same. Even in the Bible Jesus is not the only human resurrected, they occur in the Old Testament, too. The problem with all these historical figures like Pythagoras and Jesus is that they lived so long ago that we have barely any reliable sources on their lives, and their biographies are largely fabricated and they often resemble one another. But if we speak about today's situation (and back in Pascal's times, of course), yes, Christianity does hold a sort of copyright on the resurrection issue, as Pythagoreanism and other religions are not a thing anymore (or at least not in the West). Jesus is definitelly the most popular resurrected person today.

[@brianw.5230]

@@markoslavicek Almost all historical scholars believe that Jesus was a real person.

[@markoslavicek]

@@brianw.5230 Indeed, just like Pythagoras or Socrates. And they all most probably were.

[@carlyellison8498]

Men philosophize but we make things real.

[@carlyellison8498]

@Enrique Cordon - philosophy boils down to an argument that we are winning. Does that help?

[@Tightness8]

@@carlyellison8498 who is "We"? Women?

[@carlyellison8498]

@@Tightness8 - don't put words in my mouth, if you could not do that, please.

[@Tightness8]

@@carlyellison8498 was I quoting you or asking you a question?

[@carlyellison8498]

@@Tightness8 - nice try.