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[@Anarcath]

The egg example was hilarious!

[@JoaquinArguelles]

The Edison/Tesla example was hysterical!!!! I couldn't stop laughing.

[@vtsirkinidis]

Gordon Ramsicles is my new favourite philosopher

[@ipitchford]

I tend to favour innovation and rapid change when the social need is great. After all, who would want a gradual phasing out of slavery?

[@sirhumphreyappleby8399]

Oh I don’t know, someone who realised it was hugely economically important, and doing so quickly might cause a civil war...

[@god8020]

A better analogy with the eggs i think would be that there is a room full of people that we need to feed and always there are people that doesnt like the eggs the way you make it. You stick with the old ways blindly either when you are ignorant of the problem or the solutions or if you already like the eggs. In a society you cant say "if it isnt broken dont fix it". Something is always broken something always got to go and the best way is through reason i think.

[@BrassicaRappa]

I'm trying to get better at "liking" your videos after I've watched them, but it's hard to remember when I'm engrossed in a particular thought and bouncing around between videos in various places on the platform. This is *not* my first time listening to this one, but I'm only just hitting "like" now. Oops! Here's a comment to feed the algorithm!

[@WizardofEarthsea]

Hey! Love your videos--can I make a request? I'd love to hear your take on Dadaism.

[@christinemartin63]

Gradations of grey -- so true about life.

[@asoulist4829]

Strict Teslaist (Nikola Tesla that is)

[@ChristopherBlieka]

Hardest part about listening to this show now is the strong neo-liberal energy. In this particular case, the assumption that Left v Right essentially = Clinton Democrat v Reagan Republican. Not hating on the show for that reason but it is a potent sign of the times in which these early episodes were first recorded, and some of those assumptions have not aged well. Barely a decade old and it's amazing just how much of a different political world it was...

[@yosephsolomon7905]

No, no. Burke was trying to keep the monarchy. Come on now. This is intellectual dishonesty. Burke was trying to protect his interest through the monarch.

[@chihiro8758]

Form a new system did not automatocally means it will be perfect and we must see the problems of the free market

[@chihiro8758]

And preserve wisdom of previous generations may mean question our current society and preserve the true things we need and try to change in a better way

[@DirtyBottomsPottery]

The terms left and right have become meaningless, because both are right of center in the US. In the late 1980s the US repealed a law that required equal weight be given to both talking points during political commentary. Ever since then it's been a slow gradual shift to the right. Money talks. The richest have dominated everything. There is no longer a left to behave as a pressure release valve on the strains and stresses of US society. At this point the only way to fix the system is to introduce more parties, and neither of the economic incumbents wants that to happen. The Green Party was supposedly absorbed by the Democrats, but then all climate related issues were squelched. The Bernie Bros. were supposedly re-absorbed back into the Democrats, but not really, because all social related issues were squelched. In my opinion the best way to get through this transition period of AI revolution is as quickly as possible, but that's not feasible in its current state. Everything's become financially ossified. With all the layoffs recently, in complete contrast to the left's hollow promises that layoffs were a thing of the past, people are scared, and spending is down. I feel like we're walking into another recession even though unemployment is supposedly at its lowest in a long time. Frankly I think the unemployment metric is a jacked up lie. If you included all the people who've given up on trying to find work, it's probably closer to 20-30% unemployment. But honestly, no one knows except maybe the president, or others in positions of power. Stagflation with jacked up interest rates is a painful place to be, simply so that rich people never have to tighten their own belts and share in the pain. My profits, our losses. Meanwhile only those at the very bottom are paying the price for the sins of those at the top. And that's the same wretched system that has always been in place, even from before the so called Enlightenment. The only thing that changes are the propaganda terms.

[@VitalyMack]

I don't think it's that complicated. If you're on the left you believe in a more bottom up society and the opposite on the right. I think all the confusion comes from cultural reprogramming, in order to make the population bewildered and confused, and thus stay away from policy making. Now the argument that the podcaster is making isn't wrong, its just a different type of left vs right.

[@projectmalus]

Maybe the confusion comes from people seeing this choice you describe, the lefties believing in a bottom up society etc, but in reality there's only a top down economic and political system. There is a potential choice but it ain't there yet. For me, a bottom up system would solve the problem of marginalization (old and young) and might involve removing the profit motive from certain things, like housing. This might mean the doing away with the concept of land ownership and instead introduce land stewardship. There needs to be a way to positively deny the natural tendency for groups to become larger.

[@VitalyMack]

@@projectmalus the confusion comes from deliberate misinformation. By the mainstream entertainment and media outlets. But I believe its definitely here in terms of bottom up governance, just not that far down. For example we don't have a monarchy anymore.

[@juancorrea3964]

VitalyMack Misinformation comes from not knowing history and not reading books (from that period, and the philosophers who influenced political and social change). Of course when you rely on the media they’re going to water it down, because they need you to conform to their capitalistic views; without it, they’d be out of a job. You are the reason why the world is going to shit: because you don’t do the work yourself, but complain when the media doesn’t conform to what you’d prefer.

[@VitalyMack]

@@juancorrea3964 lol...I used the most basic definition that is based on historical French writing. Stay in school be cool.

[@jaf1995ful]

Why argue against capitalism? Certainly we need control over corporations. The possibility of a single entity becoming so large that it employs an unreasonable and potentially dangerous amount of influence over the population is certainly legitimate. One could argue that corporations like Google, Facebook, Amazon have absolutely and completely changed the landscape of the world as we know it. And there is a great potential for abuse when these sort of corporations use their power to shape the discourse of the people when they decide to become arbiters of said discourse. I used to be an advocate of a complete Laissez-faire economy, but I’ve since seen the potential for abuse when that power is left unchecked. At the same time, I would argue the true capitalism is nothing more the harnessing of our natural desires for promotion of self for the good of society, in a way that both appeases our human nature, and subsidizes good things like innovation, individual initiative, production, and wealth accumulation. I long thought that concepts like Marxism, and its subsidiaries, naively appeal to human virtue for their success, and upon realizing the failure of virtue, is compelled to turn to force to realize its goals. Which of course defeats the purpose. What sort of utopian society abrogates the freedom and liberty of its citizens? Not one I wish to live in, certainly.

[@Tobi-oi3uf]

So You're telling me I'm a right wing communist?? Lol

[@josemaker5252]

Believe or not, "left communism" and "right communism" where actual political movements back in the day, though they didn't think of themselves as right-wingers in the contemporary (conservative/"libertarian") sense

[@Tobi-oi3uf]

@@josemaker5252 What do those terms mean then?

[@whatdupdoh]

@@josemaker5252 as in revolutionary vs reformist? Or do you mean authoritarian communism and anarcho communism? Or national communism and global communism?And which would be left and which would be right?

[@josemaker5252]

@@whatdupdoh "Left communism" is a loose term to describe many early marxist thinkers and political parties. They were influential enough for the term to remain somewhat relevant after all this time, though you'll mostly find it in the context of theoretical discussions (especially in reference to Lenin's polemic against them). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_communism When I say "Right Communism" I'm mostly refering to the so-call "Right Opposition" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Opposition

[@Orionsbelt31]

Actually while the original spectrum that eminated via France was left/right, a more modern spectrum [50+ years at least] includes both a north [authoritarian] and south [libertarian/liberal] axis. Eg; Nazi (national socialists) where LEFT wing and ran essentially a planned/mercantile economy. Right wing would be present day Middle East under theistic autocratic regimes. You can have "authoritarian" [north axis] regardless of left or right, same for "nationalism".

[@MatauReviews]

the nazis privatized an insane amount. the political compass axes are really silly imo. nazis are very firmly right wing

[@Orionsbelt31]

@@MatauReviews No the nazi's socialized an insane amount and it was their central controlled system that proved one of the factors in them losing the war. This is not a new perspective by any stretch. Nazi literally stands for national socialist. So now we're back to my comment in understanding the 4 quadrant political spectrum where authoritarianism and even "conservatism" - eg; hard line non secularism - spans from left to right BUT is north on the spectrum. Opposite is going south to less controls on the system. Socialism lends itself to authoritarianism and ironically a 'flavor' of conservatism due to its rigidity.

[@MatauReviews]

@@Orionsbelt31 yes you should listen to known truth teller adolf hitler when he says that his conservative, ultranationalist, and racist party is “socialist”... god dude

[@MatauReviews]

@@Orionsbelt31 read blackshirts and reds by michael parenti

[@MatauReviews]

@@Orionsbelt31 no they VERY didn’t