Episode 118: The Unintended Consequences of Herbicides with Frank Dean

Frank Dean is the Product Development Manager at LidoChem. LidoChem has been involved in the global identification of reliable and superior chemical raw materials since 1981. Through his leadership at LidoChem, Frank has been committed to providing farmers with effective and environmentally responsible products to enhance soil health and optimize agricultural productivity.
In this episode, Frank and John discuss:
The process of chelation in herbicides
The implications of using the same herbicide repeatedly over time
Alternative approaches to weed management and reducing the amount of herbicide applications
The influence of research funding and industry interests on agricultural practices
The role of technological advancements and innovative products in improving agricultural outcomes
The need to challenge conventional farming practices
About John Kempf John Kempf is the founder of Advancing Eco Agriculture (AEA). A top expert in biological and regenerative farming, John founded AEA in 2006 to help fellow farmers by providing the education, tools, and strategies that will have a global effect on the food supply and those who grow it.
Through intense study and the knowledge gleaned from many industry leaders, John is building a comprehensive systems-based approach to plant nutrition - a system solidly based on the sciences of plant physiology, mineral nutrition, and soil microbiology.
Support For This Show & Helping You Grow Since 2006, AEA has been on a mission to help growers become more resilient, efficient, and profitable with regenerative agriculture.
AEA works directly with growers to apply its unique line of liquid mineral crop nutrition products and biological inoculants. Informed by cutting-edge plant and soil data-gathering techniques, AEA’s science-based programs empower farm operations to meet the crop quality markers that matter the most.
AEA has created real and lasting change on millions of acres with its products and data-driven services by working hand-in-hand with growers to produce healthier soil, stronger crops, and higher profits.
Beyond working on the ground with growers, AEA leads in regenerative agriculture media and education, producing and distributing the popular and highly-regarded Regenerative Agriculture Podcast, inspiring webinars, and other educational content that serve as go-to resources for growers worldwide.
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[@josmith1005]

This is one of the best interviews John Kempf has had, digging deep to issues we care about, and explaining the why rather than just the what. Thank you to John and Frank!

[@charlespaynter8987]

The final part of this conversation provides a sobering overview of where modern agriculture in the US and many other similar developed countries has got to. The 'big forgetting' has distilled the fate of food production, the environment and human health into the hands of a relative few who are driving a modern financial juggernaut model that's focused purely on fiscal efficiency. The net result is that we've cleared a whole load of people out of agriculture, increasingly lost contact with a balanced biological cycle of life, disenfranchised the many that used to understand it, turned food in a industrialized commodities and made ourselves unhealthier.

[@novampires223]

I no longer buy orange juice, it does not taste like oranges are supposed to. This is so sad, thank you both.

[@josmith1005]

Most of the OJ is squeezed and held in a 1,000,000 tank where it turns into orange sugar water. The vitamins degrade, and the oils evaporate. They reconstitute the flavor by adding back new oils from the recently squeezed orange peels, which is why every brand tastes different. Frozen is better than "fresh squeezed" for that reason, but not by much.

[@craiglaplante9822]

What rate of fulvic acid are you applying at to push sodium, will this work on dry land farming, applying to the soil, and tilling it in before planting or through a strip till operation in the fall or spring.

[@ajoshmiller]

This is a great interview! Thanks, John and Frank!

[@gregorythetford924]

Excellent discussion as usual! BTW: One can find organic chickpeas and make your own hummus!

[@regenerativegardeningwithpatti]

Well, so many questions. Should we consume fulvic acid to reduce the glyphosate we consume or are drinking? Thank you for the interview. I hope you get millions of shares. Job well done.

[@kirstinseaver574]

What is the book mentioned at 20:02 Author and title please? It was not clear in the audio. Thank you 🌱🙏

[@paulbraga4460]

that situation in Florida is really really really sad. as an industry, it seems like maybe they have themselves ingested the glyphosate - shown the way with great results and yet - maybe it is addiction, i mean, if you bought a pack of cigarettes, you tell yourself you are going to quit after the pack but that doesn't work. difficult to get rid of bad habits. only way we are told is to get into a good habit...

[@regenerativegardeningwithpatti]

Can filter out the glyphosate from the water supply?

[@josmith1005]

It's very hard since only a few organisms can break it down (I believe six are known) and even then it's byproduct AMPA has issues as well. Only answer is stop stop using around one gallon per person in the US, which is the current usage, and let nature heal. You can't filter the rain or your food, but a RO filter may help at home.

[@regenerativegardeningwithpatti]

@@josmith1005 Yikes, it seems we are willing to kill ourselves and the planet slowly in the name of feeding the world.

[@richardheinen1126]

What is the name of the book they both said at the same time? 20:00

[@Lovemusic1018]

Bread from Stones

[@paulbraga4460]

@@Lovemusic1018 by Dr. Julius Hensel and the book is soooo old - 1894...blessings

[@richardheinen1126]

@@Lovemusic1018 Thank You!!!

[@richardheinen1126]

@@paulbraga4460 Thanks!!!

[@paulbraga4460]

how does one apply the glyphosate only to the plant? can't be done can it? so there will be chelation in the soil, right? this could expose me as some ignoramus but we confront our devils...blessings

[@josmith1005]

Most often it is sprayed on since that it the easiest, and best way to kill weeds. Some machines (very few) can identify weeds and only spray then, but normally it is a wasteful full-coverage spray. There were some technologies (like a wick that would wipe on weeds) but they have their own issues. With GMOs resistant to glyphosate is is just simpler to spray way too much, and get the coverage to "do the job" rather than spray more accurately.

[@paulbraga4460]

@@josmith1005 and thus an inevitable downward spiral with glyphosate and related technology...mygreathanks and blessings😇

[@miltkarr5109]

A wise man once explained to me the best farm product to sell is butter. Sell the butter and dump the skim milk back on the ground and the you never need another input on your farm. Sell butter and you are just selling the sunlight. Theres no NPK in butter.

[@erbauungstutztaufgnade1875]

🙏🏼

[@chahahc]

Ask any salt water reef aquarium hobbyist who's had a mass die off and lost thousands of dollars of fish and coral whether or not parts per billion matter.