Episode 126: ONE PIECE Chapter 1098 Review

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That One Piece Talk

That One Piece Talk

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@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk Жыл бұрын
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@Coach_Quayvo
@Coach_Quayvo Жыл бұрын
The emoji 🔥
@dphantom1314
@dphantom1314 Жыл бұрын
I stand by Dragon's decision. Marejois at the time was protected by Kong, a prime Sengoku, and a prime Garp. Even if we speculate that Dragon was somehow a match for Garp at the time. Nobody in his crew could have taken on Sengoku or Kong. That includes Iva. He would have lost far more people if he went to try and save Ginny, and there was a high chance of failure. This decision doesn't lower my view of Dragon, but I can understand why people are calling him soft after this chapter.
@helpme-w7s
@helpme-w7s Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and they all have good Observation haki too
@ppmpyae1152
@ppmpyae1152 Жыл бұрын
They do not live in Marejois. No one showed up when fisher tiger casually freed all the slaves.
@Luffymynika11
@Luffymynika11 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@ppmpyae1152i think your taking boa fake story literally because he revealed before he died he was a slave for 3yrs and plan a escape taking slaves with him since he didn’t want to see them suffer after he figured out the layout of the holyland and the time schedule of the guards he never climbed the red line and came back unscathed after freeing slaves that’s just boa perspective of the situation but jimbei flashback revealed the truth behind the incident and fishman tiger had no name back then so they probably wouldn’t even send a admiral after him if they knew he was there
@ppmpyae1152
@ppmpyae1152 Жыл бұрын
@@Luffymynika11 No. Him climbing the red line was never disapproved. Boa's story is real as far as the manga goes. Every single word of your passage is not in one piece. Everything we know is these. He was a slave. He escaped. He climbed the red line and attacked marie jois alone. Nothing else is mentioned. You are literally making your own one piece.
@Luffymynika11
@Luffymynika11 Жыл бұрын
@@ppmpyae1152reread fishman island when he reveal he was a slave boa story is true from her perspective but it was also wg propaganda about how he free slaves because his biggest darkest secret he didn’t want to reveal until he was about to die was he was already captured as a slave for 3yrs and just freed people with him the narrative and newspaper says that he climbed the red line to make him look more dangerous for his bounty but that wasn’t the full story since we as viewers know Rayleigh and granny nyon who are famous from rocks and Rodger crew were also their helping but all the blame went to fishman tiger since nobody ever mentioned Rayleigh sneaking into the holyland during sabaody
@gambitx7777
@gambitx7777 Жыл бұрын
Dragon not, hitting the CDs makes sense. Long game. Kuma not teleporting in there the day he figured that out. Was wild.......
@KingsJustice1
@KingsJustice1 Жыл бұрын
Thats what I was thinking too. Dragon gets blame from fans which I get cause he's the leader, but at the same time. Kuma didn't try either so.....
@BigMotoMoto7
@BigMotoMoto7 Жыл бұрын
Man this was a deep chapter guys , I have a daughter that's 2 years old and I resonate with Kuma deeply on this chapter man 👌🏿🔥🤌🏿 #Odadiditagain
@alexgram9915
@alexgram9915 Жыл бұрын
They’d guys want dragon to be like whitebeard… who didn’t save Ace, died and left his crew crippled and weak, without a leader and slowly being killed off. Dragon job is to run the revolutionaries not lead the three pillars of the whole organization to suicide. No one is sacrificing the queen for a rook or a pawn. Kuma wasn’t told not to go get Ginny, he chose not to go get her and regardless of your feelings on the situation If you girl gets kidnapped at work you don’t expect the ceo/general to go get her, you do it yourself!
@gibbkhalifa
@gibbkhalifa Жыл бұрын
Larrys little "yup" when seb called his theory heat 😂😂
@tebow8808
@tebow8808 Жыл бұрын
Tbh this chapter actually made me like Dragon more while I understand why y’all would say dislike him for this. We saw what happens when you go against the marines unprepared when Luffy tried to save ace, Ace got killed and Luffy almost did too. And then we saw what happened to Whitebeard when he went prepared he lost the war. It’s easy to be Luffy and throw caution to the wind, Dragon made the hard but right decision. Think about everything Dragon would have to go against, and if he loses which would be almost 100% percent chance that he will everything falls. If they go in and get destroyed everything he worked for gets destroyed with him. While Ginny herself is important to the revolutionary army she and no one is worth going against the marines home base ill prepared. This is what war and revolution is making the hard decisions.
@redmaxxs
@redmaxxs Жыл бұрын
I love how everyone was saying Dragon was a fraud. Kuma who can go anywhere he likes couldn't go straight to her. There has to be something up with that and two who say they weren't looking for her. He probably had his men and women around the world looking but not leaving their post on any news they can find on her. Oda probably would have draw it if he had time. He also helped, find Doctor and use resources that they have to help Kuma. Also why is no one saying anything about Ivankov? They are her brother's/sister they didn't go looking. Dragon didn't stop them from looking. Why do they get a pass that is not fair. The hate is just ridiculous. I know they say they're not being fair to them. How is 3 people were supposed to save her because if they ordered anyone else to go there they would have died or got captured. Let's be fair the first time touches a Celestial Dragon Luffy and his crew almost died if it wasn't for Kuma, all straw hats would have been dead or some of them would be dead. Like let's look at circumstances they got into the celestial dragons place because of the Reverie. They were planning the whole time to get there and declare war on them. I get it I absolutely get where people are coming from. If you want to blame someone you want to hate wait until the person took her show up.
@jojoplayz3008
@jojoplayz3008 Жыл бұрын
I’m pushing back on the Mihawk , Blackbeard and Kidd SLANDER. There is not a single showing that makes Mihawk weak, he’s been consistently stated to be a top tier fighter. His bounty is exclusively based on his strength and skill with the blade. Marineford clearly showed him not trying against anyone he fought against. The fact that he and the literal sword god are the only two characters with black blades should show his status in the story. Blackbeard is the most pirate character in the entire show, Luffy himself stated that pirates don’t fight fair which is exactly the kind of fighter he is. Even without his cheap tricks, he’s an absolute powerhouse. This applies to both BB and Mihawk, but this heavy emphasis on “feats and portrayal” is kinda pointless. Oda doesn’t need to show a character doing anything for them to be a top tier. Roger has a like 2 panels of feats but the narrative portrays him as one of if not the strongest pirate to have ever existed. Oda is a story teller, not a power scaler. For Kidd, he actually does have good portrayal. People just have a massive bias against him (which I’ve never understood). If Shanks is such a highly regarded figure , why does him one shotting Kidd mean he’s fodder? As it’s been stated, Shanks always takes his opponents seriously so the fact he stepped to the plate means Kidd was a serious threat. Moreover, most pirates in the show would’ve been dealt with the exact same way, Law, Zoro, Sanji, hell even Luffy could’ve been done in like that. Anyways, rant over 😭 love the show and the work y’all are doing but I just had to get that out. I wanna call in soon to discuss all of this, mostly Mihawk 😂
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 Жыл бұрын
Mihawk and Teach are beasts, Kid is a bum.
@jojoplayz3008
@jojoplayz3008 Жыл бұрын
@@Eden0211 yeah you’re right, faces the most meat rode character in the show but somehow he’s a bum🙄
@jojoplayz3008
@jojoplayz3008 Жыл бұрын
@@Eden0211 bro straight up overpowered big mom multiple times but he’s a bum, blasted her to kingdom come with a rail gun but he’s a bum.
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 Жыл бұрын
@@jojoplayz3008 It is nice you understand, he did all of that and is still a bum, crazy right?
@jojoplayz3008
@jojoplayz3008 Жыл бұрын
@@Eden0211 sheep 🐑 go find your shepard
@udithsethu552
@udithsethu552 Жыл бұрын
According to Larry being reckless is being a coward
@MikeBoii
@MikeBoii Жыл бұрын
Collab with Jay D Legend? He’s a good KZbinr. One of my favorite one piece KZbinrs besides you guys 🙏🏽 I’m always here to support you guys. Endless entertainment and energy. God bless you guys.
@masido443
@masido443 Жыл бұрын
It's Larry time, baaabyyyy!!!! Let's goooooooo!!!
@Rocks.D.Cracks.914
@Rocks.D.Cracks.914 Жыл бұрын
Remember in the anime the ep was name the strongest family when garp told us bout dragon and the new episode definitely showed law’s connection he hides his eyes the same but he starts walkin away while robin watches 🤔
@ronaldjackson1189
@ronaldjackson1189 Жыл бұрын
Arch-pa-lago. Lmao hahaha that was a good one
@WhataBotch
@WhataBotch Жыл бұрын
Luffy went through the impossible to get Robin back Whitebeard went through the impossible to get ace back Garp.. the government lap dog… went through the impossible to get Koby back. Dragon officially on fraud watch
@KingNikaDKota
@KingNikaDKota Жыл бұрын
“This is Larry from that one piece talk, how can I help you”😂😂😂😂😂 my guy is wildin
@just_call_me_scott2312
@just_call_me_scott2312 Жыл бұрын
Whitebeard not avenging his little brother is worse than what Dragon did imo
@mydv1894
@mydv1894 Жыл бұрын
Risking lives of his crew, his family, his sons over to avenge a dead person Imo he did the right thing and also maybe he knew about the prophecy
@mrphillipjcampbell
@mrphillipjcampbell Жыл бұрын
Crazy thing is I respect dragon and Garp now more than ever. I see the end goal.🤷🏽‍♂️
@myboiKid
@myboiKid Жыл бұрын
This will not age well
@CSTEW3535
@CSTEW3535 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@shaquillesommerville4060
@shaquillesommerville4060 Жыл бұрын
My problem with Dragon is that we don’t see Dragon in the frontline. It always his commanders so then when we see his commanders getting capture and Dragon just batting an eye for his own bigger picture. It just doesn’t make me like his character. And for all the Dragon’s fan talking about: “You expect him to raid the Holy land?”, if Bro is currently okay with Sabo and a few of his commanders raid the Holy land when they have higher security such as Cipher Pols and even the Admirals to claim he couldn’t 14yr ago is a bit wild. The only thing that saving Dragon is maybe that fisher tiger situation happen a year ago so security is harder. That’s the only cope I could give for Dragon. Still doesn’t change my dislike with Dragon’s character
@KingsJustice1
@KingsJustice1 Жыл бұрын
Admirals, CP, and Holy Knights existed back then too. Also just last chapter Dragon said they were underfunded which means they barely have enough for the revolution. Why is it hard to grasp that something like braking into the Holy Land is easier when your forces are stronger? On top of that do you remember how they got in to the Holy Land? They snuck in using the DF of one of the newer commanders. In the flashback as far as we know they only way they could get in is with Kuma and people keep saying he can teleport in. I don't think he can. Remember in the current time line he still had the climb the redline and dude was fighting on his way there. I agree with TOPT that I wish he should have acted but I disagree that he needed to for his character to be likeable or whatever.
@shaquillesommerville4060
@shaquillesommerville4060 Жыл бұрын
@@KingsJustice1 They exist but they aren’t always there in the Holyland. The Reverie is an important event which is why you have these type of security here but yet Dragon is fine with having Sabo and a few men raid it still. Dragon knew the risk but was fine to risk 4 of his commanders for this but if it’s just for 1 commanders not in his Overall plan so not his problem. That’s my first issue with him. Why is it hard to grasp that something like braking into the Holy Land is easier when your forces are stronger? -There was only 4 Rev commanders that raid the Holy land. 3 of those commanders are probably weaker than Prime Kuma considering Kuma use to have Sabo’s ranking. Idk about needing to get stronger to raid the Holy land? On top of that do you remember how they got in to the Holy Land? They snuck in using the DF of one of the newer commanders. In the flashback as far as we know they only way they could get in is with Kuma and people keep saying he can teleport in. I don't think he can. - I mean we don’t know who they got at this time either but Kuma is enough to come up with a plan. However, Dragon probably didn’t want to take those Risk bc it wasn’t apart of his overall plan.
@jordanwynn1642
@jordanwynn1642 Жыл бұрын
in one of your shorts you had talked about how logia’s don’t have an awakening and that they may just have a special ability like Black beard. Could you talk about the possible ability of all the logia’s
@primordial994
@primordial994 Жыл бұрын
Calling Dragon a coward is just plain ridiculous. I mean, he's the only one who's dared to stand up to the world government in over 800 years, and he's managed to survive and make a real impact. He's been empowering kingdoms and sparking revolutions along the way. Now, folks wanna label him a coward just because he didn't throw himself and his whole crew into one reckless move? Seriously? Ginny wasn't just some random slave anyone could free; she was kidnapped, forced into marriage, and made to bear a child for a celestial dragon. That's messed up we all agree, however... Let's not forget, this was back in the day when the revolutionaries were just getting started - they weren't the powerhouse they are now. By the way, Garp might not be a fraud, but he's definitely a coward. Dragon, on the other hand, doesn't fall into the same category he didnt lie to himself justifying the marines. I don't even see Dragon as super strong, but emotions are running high, and folks are missing the point. It's not a fair comparison with Luffy, who's gotten his fair share of luck and plot advances. I mean, Kaido, pre-timeskip Kizaru, Marineford, Impel Down - Luffy's been saved so many times. And Sabo and the gang getting into the Holy Land? It was all thanks to the Reverie, years of waiting and planning. Simple as that. Look at Fisher Tiger - he freed a few slaves, but where is he now? And where are the Fishmen? What systemic change did he actually bring about? Every slave he freed got replaced within a week. You can't bring a butter knife to a gunfight. Rebellion means bloodshed, and someone's gotta say, "Go die for my cause." Now add, "Go die trying to target a Celestial Dragon holding one of our own in the Holy Land, with our limited resources, knowing you'll almost certainly fail as we waste money and resources we don't have, risking exposure and leaving kingdoms with hundreds of thousands fending for themselves as we prioritize one over all." It's more than just fighting a few systemic injustices. It's a rebellion in its infancy. Starting a global revolution ain't a joke, especially against a superpower with nukes that can wipe out kingdoms globally. People wanna judge Dragon, but in war, especially when they were a smaller crew, losing him would've been devastating for all the kingdoms he inspired and for the organization itself. Sure, it might rub people the wrong way, but Dragon ain't a coward. He can't afford to risk everything, and we gotta understand the bigger picture here. It's unfair to draw conclusions without considering the challenges he and everyone aligned with him is facing.
@thumpg
@thumpg Жыл бұрын
Lets remember what Garp's mindset is about risking your life to save one person, if dragon inherited that mindset then there was no way in hell they were going to rescue Ginny. Also Luffy clearly did not inherit his mindset from garps side of the family, so I wonder how wild Luffy's mother must have been to offset the Monkey family's blood
@samy-kt2rc
@samy-kt2rc Жыл бұрын
I think gorosei made a deal with kuma to allow him to get help from vegapunk regarding Bonney's ilness in return of kuma being a test subject and become a warlord.
@Inclimatic
@Inclimatic Жыл бұрын
To me the anime made it seem like Law knew something about the man marked by flame and emphasized Robin noticing it
@WriteWhatISee
@WriteWhatISee Жыл бұрын
It’s possible. I’m under the theory the man marked by flame is “Saul” from O’Hara. I’m not sure how Law would have information on him though but suppose it’s possible.
@btbgastly4635
@btbgastly4635 Жыл бұрын
@@WriteWhatISeecould be the guy ace was on an island with in the novel but that’s my theory
@crazygamer-mr6nr
@crazygamer-mr6nr Жыл бұрын
Same
@OhenebaManu
@OhenebaManu Жыл бұрын
@@WriteWhatISee he's called Deuce
@Inclimatic
@Inclimatic Жыл бұрын
@@WriteWhatISee I originally had that idea Saul could be burned by whatever it took to get him out the ice. We know Vegapunk and Dragon were there and who knows what Dragon’s fruit is
@OhenebaManu
@OhenebaManu Жыл бұрын
Why is everyone assuming that they didn't do wnythibg to save Ginny? Ginny told Kuma "I'm back to the surface..." which means Ginny knew that Kuma knew where she was. How? They probably tried and something happened... Or there was a very good reason why they ended up leaving her there, maybe as undercover??? Point is they didnt just let it go. They did something
@AcksD.Bharlotte
@AcksD.Bharlotte Жыл бұрын
23:37 Fantasia from Disney! So Many One Piece references
@DashDashh13
@DashDashh13 Жыл бұрын
Are we going to come to a point where we find that we are in a scenario like black cover with devils versus humans ? The emphasis on human model devil fruits always shows the most importance to the world government and the recent exposure of black magic ?
@Bigswordenergy-b7u
@Bigswordenergy-b7u Жыл бұрын
Zoro literally got beat up in a bar because luffy said don't fight. I personally believe the usopp thing. Was mainly because he didn't feel luffy was being serious about important decisions like who should be joining or leaving the crew. But in that situation luffy was being dead serious literally saying ''I'm quitting the journey if sanji doesn't come back''
@richardy876
@richardy876 Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue is that yall keep saying "Mary jo"😂. Ma-reeg-wa my guys lol
@Bearshark8
@Bearshark8 Жыл бұрын
I love the twins because they are super fans but they pronounce everything wrong, while i judge them pretending to know how to say them right.
@S1MX2
@S1MX2 Жыл бұрын
This dragon take is biased think you viewed it from the point of wanting to prove a point. It’s quite obvious that they didn’t know where she was, we literally saw in the previous chapter that they pulled up to save kuma and ginny. Using luffy as an example also is condescending he is the main character he is designed to survive everything, you can’t use real world logic for anything he does, in the real world he will be take out time ago.
@SpencerClassic
@SpencerClassic Жыл бұрын
Ginny being “S.A.” And god knows what else.. speaks volumes to what the Celestial Dragons was doing to an under age Boa Hancock and her 2 sisters.. smh. These mfs gotta go. Oh yeah and Seb was cooking on his Dragon take 💯
@acosme_zombie5442
@acosme_zombie5442 Жыл бұрын
Yoooo I just realized oda showed us bonny true age at 1060 she was trapped in the water vortex and if we remember water renders devil fruit powers useless so it would have reverted her back to her normal age and she popped out as at kid like 13-14 years old 😨
@gogoguppi
@gogoguppi Жыл бұрын
I don’t fully understand risking the lives of soldiers and the future of the revolution as a whole just to save Ginny
@Heavyweapop
@Heavyweapop Жыл бұрын
I have the feeling dragon is a beast. I dont know why, i dont even like him that much. Something just tells me that someone isnt called "dragon" for nothing lmao. Larry W as always though. He might be right that its just his influence.
@ScattaBrained
@ScattaBrained Жыл бұрын
imma say kuma and Dragon comes to egg head saving luffy and bonny n’ others from saturn and doing what they couldn’t for ginny and i also had the thought of wanting kuma to be conscious for a bit before he goes and it would be could if he saw bonny grown up but also it’d be cool if dragon has a moment with kuma
@RedEyeItachi
@RedEyeItachi Жыл бұрын
Cobi is 21 and he’s already a captain and likely gonna be at least a vice admiral by the end of the series meaning likely around 22-24 at the oldest so I don’t think Dragon being a vice admiral is crazy.
@Luffymynika11
@Luffymynika11 Жыл бұрын
Koby is 18 and nobody knows dragon full name til garp and sengoku revealed it in the op world on a few people like akainu because he’s the same age and probably join together with him and vice admiral are famous so i don’t think he could have a high position and still have nobody know anything about him for 20+yrs
@RedEyeItachi
@RedEyeItachi Жыл бұрын
@@Luffymynika11 Coby is 18 which proves my point even more. By the time the series ends he will be no older than 20-21 and we all know he is gonna be an admiral or at very least a vice admiral. Also all of the top tier marines seem to know plenty about Dragon it’s the fodder that seems to not know much about him which makes sense cuz it was 20-30 years ago when he left so most of the fodder is too young to know him.
@Luffymynika11
@Luffymynika11 Жыл бұрын
Larry with another L take bro really said dragon is a coward and should’ve went to holyland going door to door in celestial dragons house looking for Ginny with kuma and ivankov who couldn’t even last 1 chapter vs akainu when we recently seen In the revire flashback that admirals instantly attack the revs when the flag got burn down and only got out in the situation because of the revire and 1 admiral Fuji helped them while no admirals is helping dragon and dragon situation is nothing like luffy who’s only risking less than 10 people lives going after robin as a no name pirate or garp who’s on risking his fake hero title if he saved ace while dragon has multiple countries and millions of people that dragon has to protect or they would end up like how greenbull tried to do in wano enslaved and killed for going against the world government or end up like luluisa since they teamed up with the revs if dragon went after Ginny they have to fight admirals/god knights find Ginny and escape w/o sabo Morley karasu ect who could hold their own vs admirals since we seen in kuma flashback the 2nd strongest sabo was a kid when Ginny got caught so they would have lost everything just to try to save 1 person it make no logical sense to risk everything when they didn’t have the strength til the rn in the story to go to war vs the wg and celestial dragons and a chapter before literally told how the revs were still in their beginning stages so throwing it all away for a attempt to save Ginny is stupid if luffy was leading the revs everyone would be died already and dragon doesn’t have plot armor like luffy to have a dead ship merry save him when he’s against the wall
@olitambasakan8839
@olitambasakan8839 Жыл бұрын
@ 1:25:32 😅😅
@TheRealLaw
@TheRealLaw Жыл бұрын
Dragon just gonna storm holy land? They didn’t have the forces they even do now. Seb said it luffy is a pirate so he can be free he doesn’t have consequences dragon does. Every kingdom liberated would just fall again. I get it but
@TheRealLaw
@TheRealLaw Жыл бұрын
I’m not even saying dragon couldn’t do it but as a leader and for his goals there’s too much risk
@bezzoafk7231
@bezzoafk7231 Жыл бұрын
1:45:38 is insane this podcast has to be 18+ lmaoooo
@aniForge772
@aniForge772 Жыл бұрын
Disagree with zoro sanji part. And Larry is half right. Zoro will do nothing when sanji and luffy fighting. And he will say to luffy what u want to do . but I don't think zoro will say I will leave directly ( he can say sanji can't be a crew member if he didn't apologize) bcz zoro and sanji dynamic is very great . zoro understand sanji as luffy did at that moment.
@Carrie7357
@Carrie7357 Жыл бұрын
Believe me they couldnt save here the revelution just came together it was a suicide mission
@AcksD.Bharlotte
@AcksD.Bharlotte Жыл бұрын
17:30 honestly considering Oda relationship w Kishimoto, he probably wrote Green Bull to be a piece of trash in comparison to Hashirama lol
@dvinskclan11
@dvinskclan11 Жыл бұрын
So all the dragon hate made me think, him and iva are the two pillars yet he didn't get iva out. Luffy, his son, had to do it.
@just_call_me_scott2312
@just_call_me_scott2312 Жыл бұрын
Because breaking into Impel Down is super easy to do and they wouldn't have lost more people than it's worth
@KingsJustice1
@KingsJustice1 Жыл бұрын
I respect the takes but I have to disagree. Keep in mind Luffy, or any other pirate pulling up isn't the same. They are only risking themselves and the crew plus they don't care about the consequence for example Empel Down. Realistically Luffy unleashed dangerous criminals on civilians to save Ace and he wasn't successful.
@elsonjackington9920
@elsonjackington9920 Жыл бұрын
Seb, you getting too emotional bruh, understandably lol
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Zoro will save Bonney in Egghead Cuz in saboady She saved him
@SPACECOWBOY705
@SPACECOWBOY705 Жыл бұрын
Genkai is amazing DomeBoi is trippin
@geovanok7822
@geovanok7822 Жыл бұрын
Casino. Goodfellas. Yll want Joe Pesci to be the main character but he too loose. Keep the focus or it all fall apart
@blackwhale31
@blackwhale31 Жыл бұрын
they deff we not strong enuff to get in n out of ther in order to save ginny n he knew that so y waste the lives goin there n it doesnt make sense to trade dragon or kuma's life for ginny
@aniForge772
@aniForge772 Жыл бұрын
Majority of ppl are slandering dragon I don't know where u get that ppl are supporting him yeah there will be 3-4 guys . majority of them says they understand him but didn't have to like it.
@WriteWhatISee
@WriteWhatISee Жыл бұрын
What’s the honest reason for Slandering Dragon to begin with?
@aniForge772
@aniForge772 Жыл бұрын
@@WriteWhatISee one of the main reason was what larry and seb said
@shaquillesommerville4060
@shaquillesommerville4060 Жыл бұрын
I seen more people arguing in support of Dragon rather than slandering him.
@aniForge772
@aniForge772 Жыл бұрын
@@shaquillesommerville4060 nah its like 80% is slandering ,10% supporting and 10% neural
@shaquillesommerville4060
@shaquillesommerville4060 Жыл бұрын
@@aniForge772 I seen it be the opposite. There’s more people defending Dragon with the same argument: “You think Dragon gonna raid the Holy land for 1 commander” Risk his entire operation for 1 commander?
@уѕнмтѕ
@уѕнмтѕ Жыл бұрын
Saying that Dragon is not acting like a OP character is crazy, he's a pirate "protects" islands just by putting a flag there. Do you really think if fishman island was attacked by some pirates, the strawhats would come back to beat them? Bruh, dragon has A LOT of islands depending on him. If his organization goes down, thousands of island will be destroyed by the WG. We don't know who took ginny, if the one who kept Ginny as a wife was a Gorosei, like Saturn, you can already know they can't just go there and took her from his hands. Maybe they can defeat or distract him some way, but you have to remember that he is not the only gorosei there, I won't even talk about the Admirals.
@patflann29
@patflann29 Жыл бұрын
When people say “Dragon doesn’t do anything” I think it’s pretty funny to be honest. The shear existence of the Revolutionary Army is nothing short of amazing. Forming it alone is the actions of a conqueror. He built an international infrastructure of militant peasants and freed slaves that just officially declared war on an 800 year empire that spans practically all the known world. He didn’t drop everything and risk all his decade long plans to save a loved one unlike his father or son would have. Not being like them doesn’t make him a bad character. For all we know he has a much more gray personality maybe he just takes more after his mother we don’t know anything besides lore and assumptions Context clues lead one to believe they didn’t try to rescue Ginny because they couldn’t and knew they couldn’t. Full stop. Luffy wants to be pirate king and thinks he needs his specific crew to do it. Garp wants to rebuild the Marines from the ground up by training each new generation to take over and thinks he needs Koby and by Sword to do it. Dragon wants to overthrow the government and thinks he needs to be patient and careful to do it. He didn’t need to save Ginny and couldn’t so he didn’t. Doesnt make him a fraud makes him a pragmatist
@malikelee4852
@malikelee4852 Жыл бұрын
Your not thinking logically your thinking emotionally. Dragon is not Luffy nor is he Moria or anyone else. He made the right choice, a choice while hard had to be made for everything else to work. As someone whose been sexually assaulted as a child. I would leave Ginny to fend for herself 100 times. Your not more important then the plan.
@binkeyy
@binkeyy Жыл бұрын
i don't think dragon and revs did nothing. it says it was 2 years later, so you don't know what revs and him tried to do, i'm sure they tried to find her and get her but it wasn't successful or they couldn't find out where she was held. She was also a commander so i am sure they tried to get her back, not everything needs to be said explicitly. She said she made it back to surface, maybe it wasn't marijoa where she was held. as is with one piece its always a lot of unknowns.
@StrawhatSkinny
@StrawhatSkinny Жыл бұрын
Y'all gotta do Ginyu force poses during the intro one time😂
@NoGymNeeded
@NoGymNeeded Жыл бұрын
U steal a revolutionary army commanders woman and an integral intelligence agent herself, and dragon does nothing. Doesnt even care to save face. Genny was OP with denden mushi intel gathering etc and dragons best friend and best fighters wife abd literally doesn't even send the celestials a warning, no revenge, no response. Thats so lame. Dragon sucks atm He could of kidnapped or killed a random celestial dragon or at least snuck into marijous, plant a bomb or something, to say better think next time u mess with us. But nothing. 👎
@Luffymynika11
@Luffymynika11 Жыл бұрын
What do think is about to happen when dragon kuma ivankov and no name fodder go door to door looking for Ginny while fighting admirals/god knights at the same time how many of them are surviving if ivankov the 3rd strongest can’t even last 1 chapter vs akainu who’s a vice admiral and somehow try to escape with Ginny how likely do think they are going survive in that situation😂
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