EPISODE 2 | Salmon Crazy | Salmon River, NY

[@RF-ls2hg]

Let’s go the people love to see this Salmon River content!! Great video Brian!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks... Glad you enjoyed it! Nothing like salmon to get your blood pumping!

[@rdefronz1]

This is absolutely the best river report for my son and me who will be heading to Pulaski one week from now. The only thing I'd like to see is the actual date when the video was filmed. It's a fantastic help for our planning.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

This was filmed on Sept 29th. The salmon are all but done now. Steelhead and some browns are the real deal now!

[@Westernmassoutdoorboys]

i my self and son are heading up 20th

[@DownstreamDownrange]

One of the few !!!! Good work getting some legit hookups man!!! Love the video ! Good details on your setup and stuff 👍

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks Dan! Appreciate it! It's a lot of pressure that I only get to do it 1 day a year! lol

[@chasinbowsnbrowns3652]

For the life of me white dog , can’t understand the satisfaction of hooking into fish flossing! It’s really not fishing , but for guys like you , who bust their ass and do it the right way , the end reward is truly well earned and legit! Congrats on a awesome trip , you put the work in and deserve it !! Some of those battles were awesome to watch !! It’s amazing how some tweaking with lighter line makes the difference! Tight lines !

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thank you!!! And I completely agree with you. What is the satisfaction of hooking a fish that didn't intend to bite? It is just snagging. I would rather fish way harder and get those few bites! Thanks again!

[@pensnut08]

As always another great video!! I look forward to them. Relly gets me thinking about fly fishing again. I'll be bring venison backstrap steaks next fall! LOL

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That venison sounds good! I went to one of your old haunts today in the cold and rain (same place as the "Holdover" video from late winter this year). Did pretty well :)

[@pensnut08]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was just thinking about some of those places!! And the Kaydeross in the winter. Not with flies, but with a crappie minnow. Man, those big browns would see that minnow kicking and BOOM!! Up to 3 now. 2 in NC, 1 in GA.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

@@pensnut08 Wow... Nice! I landed 6 today but I swear that 2 I caught twice (once on the way up and then again on the way back)!. First fish of the day was a 15-16" brown and found a bow about the same size. Rest were more like 12-14". Definitely happy to see holdovers after the summer we had!

[@davedevoe6659]

Another salmon slammer love the vids when im not on the river myself

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thank you! 😊 I wish I could get there more... I would be up there for steelhead from how til April if I lived closer...

[@martinoltz9036]

Great video and i like the legit hook ups. Im the same way less fish hookups but definitely in the kisser good job 👍

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Getting a few that really take the fly is just so much more rewarding than snagging them...

[@Droptineful]

Awesome fish! They are rippin!👍🏻🇺🇸

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! I love the salmon run!

[@blankspaceadventures]

Great video, looks like a lot of fun!!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thank you! The salmon river is always a blast!!!

[@pavlorodchenko2064]

Man, watched video couple times already!!! Great fishing day! I bought same rod and same reel and ready to go this 21st september weekend. Can you please share where you buy all those nymphs and streamers

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks for the recent comments. I tie my own flies and don't buy them anywhere... but the local fly shops like Whitakers up in Pulaski will have any flies you need and can give you advice. I would highly recommend getting a pass at the DSR and starting to learn the water there. There is a TON of good water in that whole stretch. It is all about timing and having fresh fish come through. Good luck!

[@Ricky-zj6sy]

As always another great video from DSR meadows, our pilgrimage from here in Ireland got cancelled this year due to covid. But with luck we will get there next year and drown some woolly buggers right in front of our GoPro's. Stay safe yall.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! Hope you make it next year!!!

[@miller17013]

figured id comment here since this is a salmon related question. Where do you attach your split shots for salmon if/when using them? I have always attached them to the tail of my leader at my swivel which is good if they get snagged in a rock they tend to pull off the tag however I find that casting is effected some by the tag being weighted and seen in videos some attach them directly to the leader. When trout or bass fishing im not too worried about it but if Im landing a 20+ pound king I worry that crimping the splitshot to the leader would damage the lines strength.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I do the same thing you do. I put any split shot on the leader tag at the swivel (although I use a tippet ring now just so fish won't see anything). I'm less concerned about the shot harming the line as I am with the shot dragging the line into rocks and other bottom debris. You're more like to break off your leader or harm you leader that way. With the shot on the tag of the leader, you can sometimes avoid harming your leader.

[@berks8260]

Brian, what weight bead did you use on the Wooley buggers and what weight cone? Also believe you used size 6 long hook? Getting ready to head up mid September DSR. Thx Phil

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

If you have seen my "Salmon River Setup" video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3m3iJ6oZbFkhNk) you know I use as little split shot as possible to avoid flossing salmon. So I try to put the weight in the fly itself. At the time of this video and the fly tying video where I ties these (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKu0ppKwaZmgf6M) I was only using brass cones and lots of lead. I've switch to using tungsten and less lead. I tie these in various sizes. Sometime I want something big on and sometimes I want smaller if the fish are pressured. On the bigger size the overall fly weight is 1.5 grams. On the smaller size they are about 1 gram. I use a scale to weigh my flies and organize them by weight. I've struggled in terms of hooks. Finding good, strong hooks that won't bend out can be a challenge. I like the small flies as they don't bend out as easily as the bigger hooks.

[@berks8260]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thanks!

[@lazypondfarm]

My brother Paul Snyder sent me over. Looking forward to some good fishing content!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That's awesome! Paul is one of our great supporters :) Welcome to the channel! :)

[@justinmaher2826]

Great video as expected!!!! I was just watching your fly tying video for the sexi stonefly and was wondering if you ever tie those on a jig hook with a slotted tungsten bead and if so how well that works?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I have not tied it on a jig hook just because I'm usually looking for a little more length but I'm sure it can be easily done. I love barbless jig hooks for most of my nymphs. One thing I have not gotten into are slotted beads. I bought some but never really liked them. I use normal tungsten beads for my nymphs.

[@Snitchols]

Another great video Bryan. Have you ever hit the river for winter steelies?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yes I have. Tough fishing... brutally cold. I've really only caught one "winter" steelhead. My other trips are usually November or Late March\Early April.

[@cihlar113]

Be great footage if you could set up a underwater camera on that run. Might actualy get one biting. I havent been abke to find any footage like that from the river.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Believe me man... I've been thinking about that kind of shot for years!!! The clarity of the water is ok but not good enough to see very far with a camera underwater. I would need them to be pretty close. But I would LOVE that footage!!! I have also though about flying the drone above the fish while someone swings a bright fly through them to see if we could capture a strike! Maybe one day... we'll see!

[@skunkhead2007]

those salmon with the green tinge whhat species as im in the UK and we only Get Atlantic salmon and Pinks but a few seasons back i caught something similar to the salmon in the video on a north eastern english river the river Wear Durham city fish was almost same spots on tail but it had been in a while had gone a crimsony redish colour and greenish flanks spots on tail? does that fit the description of those fish but fish that hjave coloured up

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Most of the salmon in this video are Chinook Salmon ((King Salmon). The really silvery one is a Coho Salmon. They are both in the Pacific Salmon family. Pacific Salmon are not native here... they are stocked and produce naturally now. We do get some Atlantic Salmon as well. In fact, the Salmon River was actually named after the Atlantic Salmon because there used to be so many of them. Now they are rare to find...

[@skunkhead2007]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany ex atlantic river now supporting pacifics wow we always had as far as i can remember pink salmon though they were rare and found in very few UK rivers as lots of uk rivers 40 years ago were so polluted in the lower tidal reaches they didnt even support baterial life so salmon had little chance unless a huge back end flood on a huge tide ...these days though all estuaries are mended to the pint where rivers that have been absent for around 400 ytears now get spawners some are just starting to recover others have made dramatic off the scale comes backs boasting some of the laregst sized average salmon in uk and even had uk record for the year that year 38lb we get pinks in july agust i like them sometimes tiny salmon 3/4s LB =cute ...my laregst pink 4-5 lbs .... all we need now is weirs dams removing which aint going to happen in a hurry on some rivers once they removed or altered we will get euro sturgeon runs back we used to boast fish over 700lbs on ost danubian north east dogger bank rivers and some welsh rivers....we also have two species of shads that are kind of missing sea / river breeding shads down to 2-3 rivers once they were in every river they cant leap like salmon so dams stopped the runs....houtings extinct a kinda migratpoy whitefish danish have fish the same we could restock......burbot well pollution made them nationally extinct in 1970 but i believe they hung on till early 80s they still could be in certain streams upper streams locked in certain locations on land that cant be accessed fished by joe public elite land though im sure the fish would at some point travel down...anyways

[@jbGAMEandFISH]

You were right, this one got heated. Good fishing as always

[@northjerseygiants9201]

Are weighted flys legal on the salmon river?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yes they are. I tie weight into my flies and use as little split shot as possible. That way I avoid the accidental flossing as much as possible. If you haven't seen my Salmon River Setup video, I suggest you check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3m3iJ6oZbFkhNk

[@fraternelson1964]

Guy, this is real fishing!!! For this I dont think my equipment for 3 pound rainbows will fit. Wich rod and lines are used for this fight?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Check out the links in the description. I detail everything out. But I used a 11'6" 8wt Switch rod, Rio Switch line and Rio Flouroflex for the tippet. I go into detail on my setup in the video linked here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3m3iJ6oZbFkhNk

[@fraternelson1964]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I use fenwick 7wt with a 7fwf line, it seem is just change my leader and tippet for battle with those monsters. tks for the tips.

[@jrbass328]

7 wt will work, but you can't horse the fish in, either beach it or fight it for 15 minutes or so.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

A 7wt is a little light for a fresh salmon.. especially if it is a shorter rod. It is perfect for steelhead and even the cohos... but a big fresh king might be a little much for the 7wt. It can be done... just be careful! i have landed Kings on a 7wt Switch Rod while steelhead fishing but I did not feel like I had the power I needed...

[@prestongizzi2210]

I watched all your Salmon videos. How often do the fish die when caught? Im ignorant when it comes to Salmon fishing. In almost every video I see a dead fish. On the side of the stream. I’m not saying you’ve killed them. But what’s their survival rate after getting caught? I realize they will dead anyway soon after spawn.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

The fight is not what is typically killing them. They come from the lake (or ocean) and run miles and miles up river to spawn. The ones you see dead either did not survive the run or have spawned and died. They come into the rivers anytime from late August to late October... so many have already run their course by the time I am there to do my videos. Any salmon river will have a bunch of dead salmon during the season.

[@garytyler4382]

Were you at the DSR ?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yes... I really only fish for salmon in the DSR. I have literally never had a bad day there...

[@davedevoe6659]

Ppl often think im crazy there cuz i run the same line setup you do and hammer them then they wonder why im doing so well and there not

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I ALWAYS find my share of fish willing to bite! Gotta have confidence in fishing the right way and it will happen.

[@drumiktube]

what day was that? I think I recognize some people.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Oh Man... you're gonna make me think that hard eh? LOL I had to go back in my work calendar to figure out what day I took off. It was Wednesday, Sept 30

[@drumiktube]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Thank you. It's them

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

@@drumiktube That's awesome! Small world. Were they the people across from me or on the same side? I have really good experiences with other fishermen and that day was no exception. Always good people! :)

[@drumiktube]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany It's the people that were fishing above you. I saw them when you were walking back

[@jack-0-kasaro814]

When was this?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I think the day I fished was Sept 29th.

[@adirondackoutdoors]

Is this below the joss hole?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

🤔😉

[@adirondackoutdoors]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany 10-4 🎣

[@arnelcoolman9733]

Yo are you fishing at Pulaski

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yes.. I am fishing in Pulaski. I am specifically fishing the DSR section.