Episode 236: How To Roleplay The Salubri

[@paladinebahamut]

V5 did all the Clans dirty, but the Salubri and Tzimisce most of all

[@EthanKristopherHartley]

Ah, the soul-eaters. They pretend that they're healing you, caring for you, helping you on your way to Golconda. But really they're just preparing you, putting you at ease before they take your soul leaving you devoid of everything that makes you. Of all the evils in the dark nights, they have to be the worst...

[@TrickKnees]

Hey now! I only do that on Saturdays and maybe Wednesdays…

[@EthanKristopherHartley]

@@TrickKnees And I'm sure that your victi... erm "patients" believe that. It always frustrates me that despite the fact we've known about yourlot (😉) since the Dark Ages, somehow you still manage to fool so many people into thinking your the nice Chaps, Chapesses and Chapishes of the night. Tell me, do the local Baali still get invites to family gatherings? 🤔😁

[@TrickKnees]

@@EthanKristopherHartley You really had to go there? It was a phase ok? We all have them! 🙄 Actually if you really wanna see what we do with the Baali these days come here and go down that door. I have one of them locked up, on their request, in the basement. Trying some advance therapy you see. Now go down that door there, just go in to that room and you'll see them locked up. Also if want I have this energy drink. Made to work for as well, made to work for kine and kith as well. Go now, don't just stand here. 😃 Don't forget the drink!

[@powerup3005]

I found the Tremere... Now to deliver the amaranth

[@EthanKristopherHartley]

@@powerup3005 Oh, that's sweet of you, a whole bouquet or just an individual plant? 😜 (Although why you assume that I'm a finger fiddler when I'm just speaking the truth that everybody's known for nearly 1,000 years does seem a little suspicious... 🤔)

[@nicolaskoukis4264]

Ah, my favorite clan. While V5 did do them dirty, I still enjoy them even to this day. Something about the tragedy of them, combined with their spiritual path of Galconda makes them real compelling. I am currently playing a healer Salubri that is in a relationship with another PC, a Tremere surprisingly. We kinda had this idea of the 'enemies to lovers' trope taken to it's extreme, and decided to run with it. Of course, nobody told the Salubri that the Tremere was secretly a Bahari :P. It's really funny cause my Salubri normally hides their third eye underneath a headband with a bandage underneath, and has had to take steps to keep it hygenic. Normally I try my best to conceal her third eye and even her clan, as most people in the city think my Salubri is a Toreador (her adopted sire is Velvet Velour from Bloodlines. My ST has done a lot to flesh out her character.). But yeah, I do use a bit homebrew of homebrew for my Obeah... I really don't like how they tried to fit Obeah and Valern in Dominate and Auspex.... it makes very little sense.

[@GigiBranconi]

I wish I knew people to play with. I love the Salubri, the Healers specifically. Just a complete antithesis to what Vampires are supposed to be, yet Bloodsuckers all the same. Just a gentle soul forced to hurt others to live. Yet trying to heal the damage they cause.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

There are plenty of Discord servers and FB pages where people would be interested!

[@JenniferFuss]

I still not understand why Salubri got not one but three weakness. With the eye, the blood crying and that their blood is super tasty and gets your diablerized.

[@tooslow4065]

not to mention that all three could very easily break the masquerade. seems dumb.

[@samfish2550]

I could see a Settite having a BALL trying to corrupt a salubri. Their gentle nature and unsavory reputation in vampire society..... Plus as you said, they are lonely, makes manipulation easier.

[@Ulriquinho]

I really want to play a Salubri healer who joined the Ministry. It makes total sense, especially now that they joined the anarchs, there can be a “safe” haven for Salubri to join, almost wish it was canon lore.

[@justasomeone8403]

There's a Homebrew called Valaren remastered which brings back both the Healer and the warrior path to V5 and ever since finding those on storytellers vault I don't run without em. Other than that I hate how V5 butchered my second favorite Clan but as someone who enjoys the flow of V5 I just use Legacy Bane and not that bleeding nonsense

[@slaaneshthedarkprince2000]

Sabbat Salubri are terrifying

[@cobbil]

Playing a Salubr in V20. Absolutely love her. A nun embraced during the end of Napoleon's reign, she eventually moved to the US and we're playing towards the end of the Wild West in Colorado. She has no faith in either big G god or Saulot's pursuits. With a small coterie (humorously with a Tremere among them) she's building a power center out of the church, to turn it into more of a cult for her and her alone.

[@gacchan]

I'm currently playing an ex-Sabbat Fury (former Syrian YPJ member) turned Indie. She hasn't revealed her clan to anyone yet, but one of her really good friends is (unknown to her) a Tremere. And I cannot wait for the day the drama unfolds. It's so much fun. Also, Grim Reaper is what I chose, I wish I had the heart to have taken Oblivion and really leaned into the soul eater thing, but alas. Maybe I can find a way to get it elsewhere.

[@steveng6721]

Im planning a chronicle set in my city, and i am going to have a salubri who is posing as a protector of the poor weak ans sick, but is not only feeding off of his flock of dependents, but also enabling human trafficking by local gangs, the sale of the humans going mostly to kindred who are looking for ghouls/easy food etc. And he pulls the whole "you cant give me blood? I can no longer protect you then"

[@clairestark9024]

Been playing a salubri antitribu on and off for 3 years. Everyone thinks hes an ex-enforcer on honerable accord so was okay with the sabbat trouble is he's actually a chopper/omar style stick up artist whose stoicism is actually absolute disdain for the sword and its treatment of kine. Hes a ticking time bomb and the gm has comented he's effectively turning into a warrior salubri. Its genrally agreed he's going to go blade/punisher and the gm is in the progress of building to it. His resignation is currently scheduled for the palla grande

[@rafaelprado7156]

I love your content so much, thank you for all the effort!

[@LoreByNightVtM]

You're very welcome! Glad you enjoy it so much and thanks for the appreciation 🥰

[@Awakeandalive1]

Of all the Clans, V5E screwed my beloved Salubri over worst. They were THE can for me back in the V:TDA days...

[@KilbourneLemp-it3cz]

An Osiris salubri could work very well, especially as a cult leader who believes what they preach rather than a charlatan. A) provides a chance to heal and could disguise it as “faith healing” or something along those lines, easy access to blood without having to go out for it, and a certain level of protection by followers

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

In my headspace Saulot has taken over Tremere's body. Salubri will have their revenge. I am not sure how will play this clan since I prefer predator type reflects Character history. My character will be more the Warrior Caste than a healer studying in both Kindred anatomy and kine but to have a more precise attack and percision. It wouldn't favor the Sabbat because the way sect does things is antithesis to my character doing things. It will be more of a loner and making contacts in both the Anarchs and Camirilla for feeding purposes. It rules out Consensualist as Predator type but perhaps a Alley Cat. It probably try to be hire assassin or detective of sorts. Probably has decent Auspex, Dominate and Fortitude. As for weakness I just hate the Bane in V5.

[@magikot]

Saulot did take over Tremere. And Tremere took over Goratrix. Saulot has a habit of having others kill off his progeny for some reason. Maybe one day he'll figure out how to make a clan that isn't hated by other vamps.

[@tooslow4065]

@@magikot why do you think he does that, let his clan get killed?

[@magikot]

@@tooslow4065 There's lots of theories, but nothing conclusive in the lore. Some think he's dissatisfied with the clans he creates in some way, that they failed him in whatever purpose he created them for. I think he's far more sinister of a figure than he has been portrayed as over the years and that Golconda is something darker than the world of darkness has been lead to believe.

[@lolbots686]

Idea The sabbat saw a twitch in the fingers of the torpored vampire. They moved back,concerned. What came next perplexed them. Fire. Blue fire exploded into being, scorching the vampire. It took all the cainites will not to flee,but even for fire, something was wrong. It wasnt merely fire. But something far,far more lethal. Then it rose. A young man,of average height,yet his presence could only be described as saint like. He bore armor and clothes that was archaic,ancient even. But what terrified the sabbat most of all. A halo of fire floated above his head. "What..." The pack priest said,barely coherent. The man looked at them, confused. "It has been a long time." The man said,in perfect english. "K-KILL HIM!!" The pack priest screeched, unable to do more. However. To the horror of them. One of there pack mates did not charge. But kneeled. The others did charge. With a simple movement however,the same fire that imolated him,manifested and oblerated the other sabbat,not even ashes remained. "How...?" The kneeling cainite said,fearful. "Are you ok?" The man said. It took a brief minute to register. "I...you are..." "I am. ...you and my brethren have suffered much. Allow me to help." Meanwhile. Within Alamuts depths, Ur-Shulgi upon his fell throne,felt it. The presence of an ancient even so far. The blood god seemed to smile a little,a sight which unnerved those who saw. And he uttered one word. A name. A name that Clan Tzimice knows well. "Samiel..." The Slayer. The Twin of Rayzeel. The War Prophet. The Dragonsbane. The founder of the Warriors. He who once named himself Michael,lord of the host. Samiel had risen from oblivion. How? As any vampire should know. The strong willed can easly resist diablerie. And for the Salubri,much less a direct child of Saulot himself? Such an act means nothing to such a ancient being. For Samiel was no mere vampire. But a demigod in his own right,a paragon of martial prowess and holy virtue alike. Across the world,Goratrix,Meerlinda,Etrius and the remains of the council of 7 saw it,an angel rising from the earth,called by the sister. And they knew exactly what has come. Retribution had come to the wicked. And samiels righteous wrath,shall be great indeed. For he had given the tzimice antidliuvian the first of his many deaths when he drowned the carpathian mountains in there own blood.

[@tooslow4065]

with saulot in tremere's body, is the salubri just a bloodline?

[@manajerr]

Can a salubri use mask of a thaoisand faces to hide the third eye if so could be a really cool tarot card reader.

[@LoreByNightVtM]

Technically no, as any Discipline use causes the eye to bleed, meaning Obfuscate is pointless

[@enfissione8297]

No supernatural mean can obscure it.

[@atomichaunter2584]

​@@LoreByNightVtMweird, the Watchers have Obfuscate in-clan. So maybe they just use it for the rank 1 and 2 abilities?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

The proper Caste does not have the eye bleed thing. That is a pure 5th Edition "quirk"

[@enfissione8297]

Yeah, V5 bane is awful, it’s just 3 banes in one, an eye, bleeding, blood that makes others frenzy. Regarding Saulot loresheet, are we making hybrids now?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

There have been a few Flaws where a Tremere character has sprouted a third eye, but this Loresheet is a little push lol

[@enfissione8297]

@@LoreByNightVtM oh, never heard of it, can you elaborate?

[@LoreByNightVtM]

@enfissione8297 In V20's Lore of The Clans & V20 Dark Ages, Tremere characters can take a Third Eye Flaw

[@eyeofthoth2003]

I low-key kinda like the Kuei-Jin; I like that they tired to do vampires from the Asian cultures and it made them more unique than the Liabon who are just African cainite clans basically.

[@clairestark9024]

Pretty much yeah. A lot of people when discussing representation with the kuie jin being problamatic because theyre not kindred. Trouble is vtm kindred are westerm pop culture vampires so even if you make an asian kindred its still problamatic theyre everywere. Koe actually makes as asian pop culture undead. The only real issue is asian hell which is easily ammended to dharmic hell.

[@eyeofthoth2003]

@@clairestark9024 I always viewed the 1000 hells as islands in the underworld or parts of the Labyrinth. My main problem with the Kuei-Jin is their “religious racism” towards the kindred. Sure there absolutely would be Kuei-Jin racist towards the kindred just like there would be kindred racist towards the Kuei-Jin; but the whole religious aspect doesn’t make sense like it does for the werewolves and kinda colors all the kuei-Jin as the bad guys that did racist attacks first. Especially since the kuei-Jin are way more damned and often more terrible people than the kindred

[@clairestark9024]

@@eyeofthoth2003 neat angle. The religious hatred makes sense as part of an inherant inclination toward disdain and thats just the rationale. At best kindred are a territorial/predatorial rival but more genrally if youre not one then you have little reaaon to not hate them.

[@eyeofthoth2003]

@@clairestark9024 fair point, I just wish it was more “logistical” instead of the “holier than thou” approach

[@clairestark9024]

@@eyeofthoth2003 i mean its not a big plot point and easy to the switch. To quote a mate about vampires in w5 not being wyrm tainted. "Its a dead thing which destroys and corrupts everything it touches. Its wyrm status is academic to its extermination."