Episode 25 | Pastor Themba on Gang Rape | Murder | Numbers Gang | Christianity | Forgiveness

🎙️Welcome to 'Against the Wall Podcast - Danyane Diaries'!
This podcast is your portal into the lives of ex-offenders, a raw and unfiltered look at the realities of life behind bars. 🏢🔐 We're here to shed light on the multifaceted aspects of prison life, pulling no punches and sharing it all. Through the personal stories of those who've walked the path, we're showcasing the remarkable resilience and unbreakable spirit of the human soul when faced with adversity. Our grand mission is to bring to the forefront the power of rehabilitation and to educate everyone about the true consequences of crime. 📣🤔
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🙎🏽‍♂️ Host : @skeemgp
🙎🏿‍♂️Guest : Themba
🎥 Captured By: @maligant_group.za
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[@QueenOfSheba_]

I'm becoming addicted to your channel. Poor guy shame your guest, seems he's still paying for his sins, internally. Nawe maar you gave him no break😮😮😢😢

[@katleho_m7231]

Exactly how I felt

[@itsdailygaming6089]

Skeem lost interest when he realized that Brother was not being honest

[@Cleo256]

Yep

[@phelelanizungu]

true he even said it iyangidaka lendaba

[@refiloenellymakamo9320]

Pastor is damaged inside and it is scary that he might do something, may God be with him as everyone deserves a second chance

[@KhumaloAD]

We need part 2, this guy is holding a lot of info.

[@remandlo]

WE really need part2. There is lot to learn from Paster T...

[@lionelscarf2872]

Mfundisi had a brief experience with sodomy but he is not comfortable sharing it yet. His anger issues probably stem from that abuse. Eish, if these episodes could be 3-4 hours long. Dankie Skeem.

[@njakes3001]

this is my suspicion as well

[@lionelscarf2872]

@@njakes3001 yeah, the tattoo of being a ladyboy in prison is not a common mark. So how does he willingly get it on his forehead while outside? I hope he heals. Also, maybe he is battling with his sexuality. Being outside and non-active for 9 years? Eish, that is not easy for a man. Especially if you have had intercourse habitually. Women are more resilient in that regard. But I find it hard to believe a gent who says he is outside (not imprisoned or restricted by any other conditions) to not have sex for 9 years? Damn.

[@myalelomapolisa6282]

​@@lionelscarf2872what about the born again brothers? Because the guy stated that he is born again

[@lionelscarf2872]

@@myalelomapolisa6282 Born again brothers who consistently have children out of wedlock with our Virgin sisters? I find it difficult to conceive how a man who is not already a Virgin can say he has not had intimacy in 9 years, along with no self-pleasure. And his story about sodomy is not convincing enough. I know people who got "turned out" as it is popularly known. Maybe his sexual perversions have been subverted from heterosexual inclinations.

[@UyandaMbiko]

He raimained as a stone yard all the time and that says a lot about him. He was also shocked that the interviewer knows about the sign on his forehead. He was surely fucked in prison, he is just trying to portray himself as hardcore.

[@ReshoketsweMthombeni]

For me, the scary thing is that such men are out there looking for life partners. Imagine you meet this guy, you don’t know his history. You get into a relationship with someone who murdered and raped people. Yoh. Yala Nami Nkosi🥹🙏

[@mazulu6572]

Same with women you can enter into a relationship with a women who has done abortions and you don't know, we all have skeleton in our closets

[@yimina_uqobo]

​@@mazulu6572Not the same thing MaZulu

[@celinemakhosazanamaseko5192]

And they don't divulge that information, they always say their imprisonment was because of armed robbery or car hijacking.

[@nqobilemahlaba2230]

Everyone has a past. Unfortunately some people's are darker than others.

[@goodwillmboni1263]

Yet nobody is perfect.

[@lebogangprecios7256]

Hi Skeem. Aaai this is a robbing game. Your videos are becoming shorter and shorter by the week... Can we have longer interviews because we are hooked to the show. Thank you.

[@dumi141kunenekunene2]

Skeem GP is suspecting something, he's not make sure😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Cleo256]

I do feel this dude somehow felt humiliated, his body language is telling that hes been through things he will rather refrain from talking about.

[@musakhumalo5266]

Yeah I sense he was also raped that's how he got that forehead tattoo

[@thelmaseaka1567]

Especially the part of forehead tattoo for "sister".

[@buzzlove8437]

pastor's humility is admirable!

[@highandmightyqueen79]

We need 2 episodes a week Themba Lukhele its amazing work you do.

[@FavourKG]

I notice all of them they confirm there's rape in prison. But none of them ever agree of being a victim. Strange all wmen & gents act tougher

[@nkoeshemantai94]

It's really funny

[@sandilenkutha6355]

This guy need to do more in his interviewing skills. A solid -1! I mean, you can’t be all offensive and disrespectful towards your guests at the same time you want a solid conversation. You see, the problem is when people wanna do what everyone is doing 😩

[@mpumikhency]

As for Themba trying to make pastor feel abnormal for not being sexually active…our society have made adultery normal, soul tie is real and many have become sex slaves because of it…I feel sorry for our young men watching this episode who will believe or think that celibacy is a joke.

[@xolakomsana8865]

64😢

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

​@@mpumikhencywell it is a joke. Why are not having sex wena?

[@ntandokhumalo770]

Thanks for the show, although rape/sexual crimes is a turn off for me in general, I still think theres alot of meat missing from this interview. I think he felt somewhat humiliated when you repeatedly discussed the upping or concealment of contraband as if its something new and dwelling on it. His walls went up & you laughed at him not with him. I look forward to the next one, happy holidays to the team!!!

[@nkosie870]

Well said🙏🏽

[@Nunec]

I too hate sex crimes. The difference between this guy and other guests is that he chose to come out with it. Most violent criminals do actually rape as well and when they come to these shows they will not mention it coz they would not have been arrested for those crimes, they only mention what sent them to jail which is usually other non sexual crimes

[@sifisosithole9631]

There are No criminal offences better than others

[@gabmahlangu8066]

Well said👍

[@Roberto97810]

​@@sifisosithole9631so you weigh theft and rape the same?

[@mazulu6572]

Dont jugde people based on their past, they no longer live there, LEARN NO ONE IS PERFECT

[@Mbalings]

That's easy to say when you're not a victim. Or your relative. Rape should never be forgiven.

[@mazulu6572]

I’m a victim

[@mstr4164]

you are crazy RAPE SHOULD NEVER BE FORGIVEN i can tell u a a man or have no kids particularly girl children'. Cause no one who is normal in their right mind would say such a stupid statement

[@palesamokholo5532]

By far the worst episode I've watched not because of the ex convict but because of how you handled this interview Themba. You were disengaged you appeared uninterested in the guys story some parts of the interview you seem tired. To a neutral person like myself you seem to have judged this individual before he even came on the podcast. You didn't let him give us a clear picture of what created the monster he was, you interrupted him a few times, cast aspersion in his truth, really disappointing. This is no way to treat anyone who is changing his life.

[@lindiwe145]

Totally true, I am disappointed

[@mafeeofentse2633]

Ya it sounded like he is judging or looking down on Bitso

[@ThethalakheRichard-qm3qs]

Indeed he has this thing of looking down towards his fellow brother

[@seipeishole9674]

And also pointing out to the fact that he had a "sister" tattoo. He was a bit taken aback by that. Now he'll have to deal with people judging him gore he was a woman in prison. You could see that the guy wasn't comfortable with the topic. A bit of empathy would have sufficed 😮

[@user-sl7nc2ep7m]

There’s nothing wrong in pointing at that tattoo he’s interviewing him what do you expect?

[@mistagreenbrown]

Chances are the guy, was also arrested for rape or gangs found out about it. Tattoo, Court & his prison survival story it doesn't add up.

[@Ms-lb7lb]

He was a sista and thats for all the rape crimes he committed.

[@ReshoketsweMthombeni]

Exactly!! 👍👍

[@Drawingboredi]

Oh guys no.

[@Ms-lb7lb]

No one deserves evil to be done to them not even him. I once heard someone on the Agenda say that rape crimes are punishable in jail. Some guys even lie about the crimes they committed.

[@gracekolobe-6598]

I always support inmates and when I come back home I would like to assist in program like yours financially, so that the next generation cannot be involved in things like this. Thank u u Skims for such shows

[@lebogangprecios7256]

Come back from where, prison? Asking for a friend.

[@buciemaphosa3954]

From where just curious

[@Mashwabade917]

Uphi kanti

[@zandimkhize7086]

Ubuya ubuya kuphi....???

[@jacquelinendlovu1107]

Am learning something .i will avoid prison by all means

[@user-nq3xb4eq5n]

I respect him for owning up to his flops. His healing journey matters as well and judgment is not needed here, we are here to learn

[@lebokosana6964]

Absolutely with you 100% ❤

[@nataciamatlawa734]

Bamhlabile daiman

[@nkoeshemantai94]

I agree😂

[@jackiemapiloko2188]

This interview took a sharp turn when he boldly said he was a rapist! Skeem’s body language changed from then…you can tell he was disgusted by this man. As he should.

[@kwakha6103]

I saw that as well. And ever since, the interview wasn't flowing the normal way.

[@esthermphanda4836]

True

[@onkgopotsekeobaka7680]

Precisely. I, as a viewer, became very uncomfortable. When he also mentioned that he made an apology to those women on radio. Wow. What a country.

[@ReshoketsweMthombeni]

I respect Skeem so much for that. You can tell that he is a man that is intolerant of sexual predators. Everything was going fine until he mentioned that and this goes to show the podcast does not exist to promote crime.

[@jackiemapiloko2188]

@@ReshoketsweMthombeniFully agree 🙌🏾

[@PaballoASMR]

My Sundays finally make sense ❤

[@remandlo]

Great episode with Pastor Themba....

[@gingertwala8474]

9 years of celibacy 😱, talk about being steadfast & resolute in your faith.

[@Yolissa.M]

Enjoyed this episode oko ndikhuza yhoo the things that were said were heart wrenching ey kudos Skeem ♡

[@agnesmasilela9400]

May God continue strengthen you and use you, protect.Peoppe will Always have something to say.Remember Paul in the bible

[@mandlathabethe5109]

Informative and educational brother I hv introduce my son to d show for learning purposes.... phusha brother we are behind you

[@jeffkhang3566]

very touching....God Is Love

[@mphotinymgangane3697]

Thankx for the show , Skeem 🙏

[@91gerrard]

Themba is a very good interviewer, He engages a lot with guests. Lead them to talk..

[@anelemayola4854]

Does Themba have a beef with Pastor Thembe.. Yeyi hay this interview.

[@user-vb6rt5le9j]

Terrible

[@MbaliNgubeni-em9io]

Yohhh I'm speechless but Themba sewunngaze umvuruvaye kanje ubitso. Hayi man

[@buciemaphosa3954]

Thank God they’re changed,n it’s huge lesson

[@phindilemahlangu1147]

We really need part 2 Themba

[@user-bg5jy5vl9e]

I don't think this guy is changed, khona into eOff ngaye 🤞🏼

[@nompumelelotwala344]

From what he was before, he really has changed or at atleast trying. He lives 3 houses away from my house, I see him everyday trying

[@sibongilenatashamshibe9728]

This man really has changed for the better, he has been a church deacon at Catch The Fire for the longest time now🙏 God really did here

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

​@@nompumelelotwala344where does he live?

[@reflioekheswa6314]

All if not most of the people that are interviewed here were criminals in their previous life. I feel this guy is being judged by the host and the people on the comments. I wish this interview never happened

[@ReshoketsweMthombeni]

There are definitely levels to this crime thing. As society we can forgive heists and robberies but what we cannot condone is gang rapes and senseless murders. Hhayi Mina ngyamjaja vele🫰🏾

[@Drawingboredi]

How must the interviewer or we process rape??? That's difficult.

[@reflioekheswa6314]

@@Drawingboredi I am not saying what he did is right. Alot of people who came here have murdered peoples loved ones and they have not been judged like this

[@Glo-zj2vf]

God can change a person I know its hard for other people to believe u can stay without sex for years and u will be alright the holy spirit can do it

[@jacquelinendlovu1107]

The interviewer 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@bosilemsibi1477]

I feel like he is judging him and condescending towards him. I understand he did a lot of bad things, but the attitude towards him was not necessary

[@angelatshisikhawe2673]

I honestly would like someone to interview Themba,the very same way his interviewing this guest and see how he'll react on the hot seat

[@zwelithinikhumalo6960]

something was offish about Skeem at one point I thought he was sick or bored🤞. Felt bad for the guest...same pressing question asked few times.

[@Nunec]

His arms are folded, that is disinterest

[@jmp4660]

Thanks Skeem

[@googlegmail6997]

GP brother you are doing a amazing job in educating out our youth

[@margaretkhambule1431]

Enjoy your holidays with the whole team

[@tptozngwadi5874]

Part 2 please 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@kattkosha4890]

Skeem was not feeling this guy

[@myalelomapolisa6282]

True I could also see that

[@noziphokhumalo6090]

I have noticed that too

[@ReshoketsweMthombeni]

Akam’phiwanga nje at all!🤣🫰🏾 maybe he dislikes rapists.

[@mongezloui1875]

Why they all become Pastors ?

[@MaMdluli]

My question as well ..maybe someone will tell us one day

[@user-bg5jy5vl9e]

It's a disguise 🤞🏼

[@gracekolobe-6598]

I watch all this interview ever Sunday. Even if I am busy on my shift at work. But this one sounds evil. That is why we left South Africa leaving in the UK, this makes us so scared for our children 👎😭😡

[@mazulu6572]

People like this are found all over the world, some places lesser

[@paulocean6295]

My sister I would love to move to UK, is there any opportunity for laboratory chemists?

[@simpleforex1299]

How is this interview evil?

[@eddyeddy4286]

We moved to the USA 🇺🇸 Honestly speaking its safer here compared to South Africa 🇿🇦. In as much as there are issues, Diaspora is very much better compared to these these African countries.

[@dimakatsomoikangoa6610]

Evil exists everywhere in the world. Just because you are not aware of it doesn't mean it's not there. At least he's talking about his past not his present.

[@kwakha6103]

Movies are coming up a lot as inspiration in these stories......😢

[@manalamazomba869]

This was such a hard episode to watch💔. Yhooo

[@leratohadebe4938]

Skeem woke up on the wrong side of the bed sana

[@MoeketsiThebe-fe2bh]

Skeem was just gently poking at him 😂

[@thabisoaugustinemashala740]

He pressed the paddles.

[@user-of8eb3pi6r]

Great Interview

[@macebopako1349]

Pastor Themba was a "sister" as he says... How did he survive prison without prison visit? The tatoo on his says it all: bekangu Mama ejele. The host is restraining himself from telling him that he is lying

[@pamellanqobile3596]

Too much lies here were said by the host

[@pamellanqobile3596]

By themba I mean

[@munghilepheeane8528]

It's not like Skeem GP is innocent. He's also done the most and the worst. He's nothing but reformed however, just like what he said to Themba Sithole, he (Skeem GP) might go back to his old ways if he hasn't continued on the side already. People like him (Skeem GP), who kala abantu, can end up triggering their interviewees, some may want ukumupruvela ukuthi ucabanga ukuthi wazi kakhulu awuthi ngik'bonise ukuthi mina ngiwubani. Your attitude in this interview Skeem GP is not so cool, it's not ayoba. Review this interview, check the viewers' comments and change your wicked ways Skeem going forward. Themba is still respecting him and calling him "bitso" (i.e. namesake).

[@user-tn2iy5gs2h]

Part 2 plz

[@MaMdluli]

Me zooming in to see the mark

[@Marthashiningstar]

I'm.late today,but I'm on top of it😅😅🎉🎉🎉

[@tefontoahae1346]

Awu Mthimbana✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽njabulela ushintsho kuwe azange wangiphatha kabi ekasi and bowungibulisa without fail everyday i didnt even know ukuthi that time you were part of the gangs ekasi. Life ekasi was difficult i am glad ukuthi usaphila and ukuNkulunkulu 🙏🏽

[@nicholasmotaung9177]

Skeem was so offish even by his look nje, you could tell.

[@tonshbenosh2275]

I noticed it

[@thandiwetshabalala8816]

Folding his arms nje unyatso

[@dimakatsomoikangoa6610]

I have listened to a few of your interviews. Not all are the same and willingly going to divulge all the horrors of their past. I agree e with @ntandokhumalo770 that you were a little harder on him. It came across as if you were humiliating him 😢. For me, the part about the totoo between his eyes, how you brought it was really to humilate him. And that is unfortunate. He is not perfect, but he's leaning on the help of Almighty God. That should be enough bathong 😢.

[@katleho_m7231]

He is and he was judged throughout the interview

[@nobesuthumooki7936]

Next part plz

[@williamtladi1892]

To the host, please stop folding your arms, it gives a dismissive attitude. Furthermore, I sensed alot of judgemental vibe from you, and you couldn't even hide it.

[@katleho_m7231]

He was horrible and too judgemental

[@KlaasMoratuwa]

Lol, this one is not a pastor ka hana.... A re never say never kwaaaaaa

[@FavourKG]

Moooo Im thinking 😂😂😂.

[@KlaasMoratuwa]

Lol ai no he is not make sure

[@thabisoaugustinemashala740]

😅😅

[@aphiwemncube1550]

😂😂😂ai no uzobuyela

[@namhlamakinza8821]

Eish now he is a pastor help us Lord not to judge

[@fikilewebb8494]

Not to judge,people are dead, am just baffled how people are just willing to accept such just because, they are "born again "

[@lufunoleenetshituka5251]

Mfundisi is lying they have twanyaza him 😂😂😂😂

[@nkoeshemantai94]

I agree

[@annahboshielo]

A lot of things are questionable here but ke...

[@ReshoketsweMthombeni]

A lot a lot!!

[@esthermphanda4836]

nothing is making sense

[@juanitadlamini5784]

🙏🙏🙏🙏Thank you

[@thembimasinga5555]

I sense a lot of disrespect from our interviewer today..o nyatsa die bra🤔

[@Nokuthula_14]

Im trying to look at the tattoo between his eyes i can't see it

[@scmasilophotography]

I am watching this podcast from hearing your story on podcast and chill. You don’t give people a chance to tell their story. The story of a person cannot be butchered the way you do for most of your guests. Allow them to tell their story. You also seem disinterested. These people’s stories give hope and life to people who have given up. There is a reason why God saved him. Allow people to give their testimony their way.

[@mlungisifloyd4999]

I think he is trying to cover all questions he planned rather than prolonging the story till the time limit

[@Ameerah07]

​@mlungisifloyd4999 nope there's no time limit. In all episodes he cuts a guests when their telling stories. He picks what he wants to hear

[@mmeme5861]

I can't watch this

[@kamaveetv9457]

I'm confused the is like it is no building human but destroying with all effort

[@kagisomogapi2675]

SHO skeem, I am follower religiously bit today its jot make sure. But fede, what can we say...just off the tangent please try to invite u Trinity from Alex...that guy he has some gems drop

[@ronnienelane7888]

What is the name of your book Themba

[@thatoramere5255]

Mfundisi should come back and tell us what really happened behind bars ngale tattoo yakhe yabo sester ayenzile

[@babusisibanyoni402]

The host sound’s judgemental . May God help this man to heal completely from his past.

[@ituphiri8792]

he was judgemental......horrible interview

[@katleho_m7231]

The worst interview ever I don’t understand why he should invite convicts if he can’t deal with the truth he irritated me.

[@menzihadebe8988]

He started by saying the person he is interviewing today looks like he will go back to jail.

[@its_thee_og_gugulethu5102]

I was actually laughing at Themba's sarcasm and irritation from his facial expression when he even went further to say that he can read people, uh that sarcasm went over the guest like the yellow bus.🤣😂🤣😅the level of sarcasm here is on steroids

[@gig_economy]

It was condescending, I did not find it funny

[@TheRealRovkstsr5]

Skeem needs to find ways to interview people without trying to judge them ....the fact that they are there means they have change

[@nhlanhlamthembu3616]

I happen to know Themba, and I agree with you, he was holding back. It may have seemed like you were condescending but I can see you struggled to breakthrough that wall he put up

[@sharonmafagane6947]

Poor guy was humiliated 😢😢

[@user-pt8nt3iz5v]

Skeem u mentioned both the schools i attended Izibuko and Fumana

[@user-vb6rt5le9j]

I feel for this guy

[@user-uy6bw4ty3y]

Ya bhebheka inceku😅😅😅

[@nkosinothandozulu5733]

Themba seems like he is not convinced about the mark between the eyes. 😩😩

[@ln7087]

Mfundisi ….. 🙏🏾❤

[@kphosh]

Nna I zoomed in... trying to see the tattoo... I don't see it. Is it the scar they are taling about?

[@sindid6928]

Mina lobhuti ai ngyamsola

[@nzululwazimtolo1269]

I don't trust him, ay kabi.

[@sifisombonani7511]

Ama questions Waka Skeem.. Yooh!!!

[@blvcksnowbeatz]

"Ma ucabanga bewu normal" 😂

[@nzuluyemfihlakaloancientof5369]

❤

[@mncedisimpetshwa9996]

Akathole umfazi uMfundisi angimthembi ebantwaneni babafana n girls e Church...shada Nceku inyama le

[@Winterflowers1]

Ungamshada yini wena? Mina I’m scared of him xem 😢

[@mncedisimpetshwa9996]

@@Winterflowers1 😂🤣😂

[@MSTT691]

Uzoshada nobani? Abafazi bazosaba 😂

[@vuyosandi1608]

I feel like Skeem is judging this guy

[@mr0.r157]

Am frm jail that tatoo means he is wife, skeem is nt judging the is lying

[@vuyosandi1608]

@mr0.r157 i was not specific in my comment. My opinion and observation is based on the overall interview.

[@Nokuthula_14]

Bekangu sista lo

[@babusisibanyoni402]

It’s a lie you can stay celibate because of faith, nothing wrong with that. God bless mfundisi

[@user-sl7nc2ep7m]

This guy needs to see a psychotherapist’s, I don’t know how they let him out.

[@ShakerComedyChannel]

Mfundisi is lying bamshayile phakathi 🤞🏾

[@tebohomolete4711]

Lol GP knows something ngo Pastor 😂haaaai