Episode 377 - Comparison VW Golf R vs VW Scirocco R

Date of broadcast: 07 December 2016
Volkswagen Golf R
Engine: In-line four-cylinder, 1 984 cc, turbo
Power: 206 kW @ 5 500 - 6 200 rpm
Torque: 380 Nm @ 1 800 - 5 500 rpm
Power-to-weight ratio: 137,79 kW/ton
Gearbox: Six-speed DSG dual-clutch, AWD
Wheels/tyres: 19-inch alloy 235/35 R19 tyres
0-100 km/h: 5,0 sec
Top speed: 250 km/h
Fuel tank capacity: 55 litres
Fuel consumption (claimed/tested): 6,9 / 10,1 litres/100 km
Operating range (claimed/tested): 797 km / 545 km
CO2 emissions: 159 g/km
Pros: Top performer with good power and involvement.
Cons: More expensive. The more obvious choice.
Retail price: R592 580
Price as tested: R592 580
Volkswagen Scirocco R
Engine: In-line four-cylinder, 1984cc, turbo
Power: 188 kW @ 6 000 rpm
Torque: 250 Nm @ 2 500 - 5 000 rpm
Power-to-weight ratio: 130,64 kW/ton
Gearbox: Six-speed DSG dual-clutch, FWD
Wheels/tyres: 19-inch alloy 235/35 R19 tyres
0-100 km/h: 5,8 sec
Top speed: 250 km/h
Fuel tank capacity: 55 litres
Fuel consumption (claimed/tested) 8,0 / 9,8 litres/100 km
Operating range (claimed/tested): 688 km / 561 km
CO2 emissions: 187 g/km
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Pros: Stealthy looks. Decent front-wheel drive performance
Cons: Starting to feel dated. Not as involving as Golf R
Retail price: R546 880
Price as tested: R546 880
Prices correct on date of broadcast.

[@dimitrisseme3215]

I would chose the scirocco although it's not faster but it looks more aggressive

[@marcodelaat9148]

it is more agressive (as a golf driver) whom had a scirocco

[@madmanmoz6365]

The Scirocco is a better all tound car, morw fun to drive

[@ijazthegreat]

I chose the roc in the end simply because driving everyday on the road. It's just looks better and is rare. I've lost count the amount of people asking me what type of VW it is and how cool it looks

[@k-dawg4617]

100% agree. Love my 2016 R. Who the hell wants to spend a ton more for a car that is common as muck? And 4 doors? Even the Panamera struggles to pull that off! Hot-hatches should only ever be 2 doors.

[@billymcmonagle949]

I have had a Golf GT, now on a Scirocco, i love the Scirocco, looks stunning, and drives really well

[@marcodelaat9148]

point to point scirocco is beter (as a golf driver who had a scirocco)

[@k-dawg4617]

Biggest problem is what you said at the start - the Golf is far too common. Scirocco R is a superb looking vehicle

[@TWOhype23]

Unless you live in the US. Finding a Golf in the US is pretty rare, any hatchback for that reason. The car market here is all about “how big and how much of a gas guzzler can we make this?” So trucks, SUV’s, and large sedans will always be the American choice unfortunately

[@andreirolls1556]

Agree to everything you said here, except the interior comparison. These cars both had same NAVI unit, same gauge clusters same multi functional display, pretty much same elements. Scirocco has a very unique and sporty design on top of that, whereas the golf is still squearish in expressing its sportiness

[@sackeusiilonga2174]

Why didnt they make the scirocco AWD

[@rushshukla4636]

Not necessary. AWD is too heavy. These are hot hatches not sports cars. FWD is lighter and perfect for a hot hatch.

[@velonamoses8043]

Just love this guy’s presentation of car reviews 👌 Top stuff bro👍

[@steveo8533]

The scirocco R is still a look twice car, simply stunning.

[@ashneel]

The Scirocco is such a looker..shame vw dropped it

[@samvrs]

Ashneel P Ik annoying innit

[@brunolondinese5857]

not a great shame. cars get progressively worse-looking and more efficient, so if you like how it looks now, be happy it not gonna change

[@k-dawg4617]

Am hoping my 2016 R keeps its value. Discontinuing could be a bonus.

[@Whiponized]

@@samvrs yhyh

[@trzmaier]

Golf looks and feels just so ordinary. I tried both and went with Scirocco R in white just like in this video!

[@blackflagpirate3444]

Scirocco R looks more sporty than the Gulf

[@furryperson3998]

VW remind me of Mitsubishi when they neglected the Eclipse to focus on the Evo. All they care about is money and sales. The Scirocco should be the car with the powerful engine and the all wheel drive system since it looks like a sports car...talk about a sheep in wolf's clothing!!!

[@fatwalletboy2]

think it was Clarkson commenting on the new M5 with so many menus and sub menus and settings.he said why cant they set the car up as it should be. same with these vws. does anybody actually sit at the lights or on their driveway flicking through all the settings????

[@tomdempsey8708]

Give me the Scirocco every time a real head turner.

[@AliGspot]

Underrated video

[@FungusLabel]

2:17 - 2:27 Woooah, that understeer...

[@payasofeo69]

Interesting... so it's actually a Scirocco GTi. Let's hope the next generation has all the R stuff and his exported across the pond.

[@unclebuk5596]

Might not have as much power and only fwd I love my Rocco, a real head turner more than the common golf. About to do my first tune on my scirocco, I’d take it anyway over the golf

[@Jr-Cane-Corso]

Wish they sold those here in America (Scirocco)

[@JulianxHi]

Are those UK models? The german one´s got another power-output. Golf R has got 221 KW (301 PS) and scirocco 206kw (280PS)

[@Thelionfan11]

You are correct

[@bathgateloyal1690ftp]

The european spec mk7 are 296bhp but south africa,australia and the us get slighty less due to excessive heat and humidity!!

[@duderu4real94]

I went for the Scirocco GTS a rare beast on the road

[@jacobjames2152]

I just bought one. It’s sweet. In grey

[@mcxix2742]

Same, just got a facelift petrol in white, the R is uncommon but the GTS is extremely rare in UK.

[@lifeofwheevee8007]

Great review, but I was distracted by the interlace artifacts. Why do people still master in 1080i? Really looks terrible on KZbin.

[@samvrs]

Scirocco 😍

[@RatedGAF]

we all know the scirocco is a neckbreaker and the golf is 'meh'

[@hamoclease]

Couldn't agree more. Had my Scirocco R for 4 years and the amount of comments/questions I get, combined with the blatant head turning.... It's an utterly gorgeous, unique car. Looking at statement and performance, I think it's a better match... Golf R is still a Golf at the end of the day...

[@massiveattakk]

Bollocks

[@papagalnebun]

no u

[@thekill7761]

I love body scirocco r..

[@lalap2fun]

was hard choice ,but Rocco looks more aggressive ,i upgrade my Rocco to 350 ps i enjoy this all day :)

[@Xxsatanicx]

The scirocco is way sexier

[@rokzavrl8411]

That design of scirocco makes it equal even if it has less hp and fwd

[@califax007]

I like his end conclusion being that even doh one car has more POWER and is AWD he would still think the scirocco is the better car, why would you think that when AWD and more POWER is what makes the most difference? Intersting conclusion. wiothout its advantages of AWD and POWER the Roc > Golf anyday

[@richardbaron2948]

Same R badge but different engines.......Scirocco with the new Golf R E888 Engine would be far better.

[@eriksvonrosen267]

and AWD :(

[@Scuppun]

Just got a 2012 'Roc' 6 speed manual with stage 1 upgrade..... ABSOLUTELY EVIL!!!!🤪😁😁😁👹👹

[@Hannibal-rb7ex]

Scirocco ❤️

[@malachischarfe3781]

If only they redesigned a golf that looked more like a scirocco

[@cedrictredoux4145]

Uhmmm, the Scirocco is just a heavy facelift, based on the MK6 Golf, old 188kW K04 setup while the MK7 Golf R is, well, based on the Mk7. Not sure you can really compare these two?

[@milinddixit6583]

But they're selling both as the latest versions of that model. So we have every right to compare them since there isn't a MK7 based Sirroco. To be honest, if there was a MK7 Sirroco I bet it would have won.

[@blackflagpirate3444]

Cedric Tredoux The scirocco looks the business.Got my mk2 TTs mapped few weeks ago.240KW

[@Kingaltara89]

Scirocco the best ever

[@skerminkel9971]

Guys, if you insist on filming your stories in winter on the dreary Highveld, you will never generate hits. The cars and presentation may be top class, but the setting just gets everyone depressed.

[@jarhead1145]

So there's a couple of cool cars they're reviewing but the setting is what draws the most of your attention?

[@skerminkel9971]

Yes. Compare this with the Ferrari 488 video and almost all the stuff from Cars.co.za. The setting makes a massive difference to the visual appeal of the video.

[@karlmalone11]

Maybe for you, but for actual car enthusiasts, the cars are the focal point of the videos, the setting makes little difference

[@skerminkel9971]

I gave the RPM guys some good advice. They have to compete against the likes of Cars.co.za (locally) Carwow, Caradvice, etc. etc. for viewers. This video drew 272 (currently) views. What do you think makes the difference?

[@16cliffedge]

looks like a nice sunny day and fine track

[@pt4005]

I own a scirocco r. Honestly the golf r is better... but the scirocco r is rarer you cant even find them used anymore

[@snvffxxx]

the only pro of the golf it's the awd, scirocco wins on every other points

[@StalloneSRB]

Scirocco should be much more advanced.. in league with Lotus Exige lol.. Not bad as this.

[@madmanmoz6365]

The golf doesnt come close to the Rocco, 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@fabioafonso8545]

Sirocco My dream car

[@SongAdam]

Guys imagine if scirocco is REAR WHEEL DRIVE, it would v been much more attractive!

[@roybm3124]

I don't like the small inner drl led bulbs on the Scirocco, i disabled them on mine.

[@Fr000z3n]

I know your post is old but how did you do that ?

[@Thelionfan11]

A little bird told me that The new Golf R 2018 has 310 HP 0-100 = 4,6 sec and top speed 250 KPH with speed limiter Yeah that's a badass hot hatch :-)

[@johnkyriazakos9573]

Come on vw.That's not a comparison.They have the same speed.But l chose the scirroco

[@tobireindl]

You are comparing a EA113 to a EA888... take the 6R instead of the 7R..

[@rodrigo1653]

No they are not, both of them have the EA888

[@tobireindl]

@@rodrigo1653 Nope, the facelift version of the Scirocco does have the same engine as the pre facelift, the EA113 ✌🏼

[@rodrigo1653]

@@tobireindl Im pretty sure they havent, the Scirocco R with 265hp yes, have the EA113. The facelift one, with 280hp, have the EA888. Like the other ones the 180hp and the 220hp, and the GTS version to. This last ones shares the CULx code, the R version im not sure if its CUL to, but i think yes.

[@tobireindl]

@@rodrigo1653 The pre facelift does have the EA113 with 265HP and 350Nm (CDLA) and EURO5 and the facelift one does also have the EA113 with 280HP and 350Nm (CDLK) with EURO6 - I had the pre facelift last year and I own a facelift Scirocco R now, I know which engine I have 😅😂 Yes, the 180HP and 220HP Scirocco have the EA888, but those are the only two ✌🏼

[@rodrigo1653]

@@tobireindl Ok my bad then, sorry for that wrong information. Thats something new for me, i assumed that all the "new" generation of sciroccos shares the same engine. Im getting a 220hp version, and i searched for some informations about the 180/220 versions, thats why i assumed that the R version have same engine, but yeah, apparently not. And sorry for insisting on that, but like i said, its something new to me. 😅

[@joshuaminke6629]

you should of tested the face lift Scirocco, it pretty much has the same power as the golf

[@joshuaminke6629]

@@martindonohue900 its down on power then

[@seriousstuff50]

scirocco all the way.

[@MrFaniaros]

Golf for me! AWD, more power, more comfortable, more practical, easier to live with, more rigid due to the MQB platform. Rocco only has the looks, but that is subjective and I don't really like it, I prefer the sleeper look the Golf has and is not so "in your face"

[@nickfoster9350]

Golf R FTW! 🤘😎🤘

[@crxdelsolsir]

Why VW did not make a driver oriented car (2 door) the clear winner in performance is beyond logic. People buying it obviously want the drive more than passengers yet VW made the passenger vehicle AWD and similarly powered. No wonder the better looking Scirocco struggled.

[@crxdelsolsir]

Honda take note. VW does not name everything a Golf. If this was Honda they would call it the Honda Civic 3 door and the Honda Civic 5 door. Honda names everything the Civic which is not only overused but lacks identity. The 5 door should be the Concerto and the sports version the CRX. Honda has missed the idea on marketing and product identity.

[@rushshukla4636]

Never liked the Golf. It's a boring looking car. Very staid but very practical and fast which is why it outsells the Scirocco which appeals to single people. The Golf appeals more to families who want the extra space and luxury but also performance. Never understood why they made it AWD. Totally unnecessary and adds much more weight to the car. These are hot hatches NOT sports cars. A Lambo requires AWD not a Golf! In this way the Scirocco wins because it's lighter FWD and is much better looking as many Golf nuts concede. The all wheel discs and power stearing also help with the handling so AWD is not necessary.

[@MachonaVideos]

I think it’s because the market for Hot Hatches has blown up in recent years

[@AndrewSmith-sy7ws]

Scirocco looks girly in my opinion....something very feminine about it

[@robpk84]

Its that big fat ass. Personally I love it. Shame its the lesser of the two.

[@albinwikstrom2183]

The sirocco r has awd!

[@krisprojection2433]

JDM MAM I wish, I own one and it’s just FWD

[@CanadianMax]

Another review where you chaps went out of your way to get a track, and then dont race the two... Well done! Maybe go look how the bigger channels review hot hatches and then try again.

[@jonathanchen4109]

do some trail breaking, use your left foot. you will be so much faster. learn how to drive ff, then do the review.