Episode 5: Navigating the Drama: Ethical Force and Multi-Dog Households

In today’s episode, join me as we explore the art of positively conditioning leash pressure. Witness the blossoming bond between Veronica and Shade, our stars of the show, as they navigate the complexities of fetch training and puppy socialization.
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0:00 intror

[@HaiJosephine]

I love what you are doing for dogs! Not everyone is going to listen and will be forceful and talk smack about you in the process. I respect your work and ability to ignore the naysayers. Don't ever stop.

[@LyranSoul]

Yep we will bcuz he's a jealous loser. But you keep kissing his ass 😀.

[@LyranSoul]

He's already stopped lol.

[@HaiJosephine]

@@LyranSoul that makes zero sense....

[@LyranSoul]

@@HaiJosephine I should have clarified, he stopped his crusade against trainers he doesn't like. So obviously he isn't ignoring the naysayers.

[@Wookeyehandtechihhila]

With my first puppy, I talked with him so much from day one and he learned to understand me so quickly. I would recommend talking, studying books from Stanley Coren and Patricia B. McConnell and studying evolution so that you understand how related we are with dogs and how we have influenced their evolution. I recently adopted an approximately 9 year old who doesn’t pay attention to the spoken word, just night and day from the dogs I raised from pups. He was so disregarded and is so traumatized from his former life, yet beginning stages he is learning that things like “good boy” mean good things and his tail wags. He sure doesn’t need any more negativity in his life and neither do puppies! Life is hard enough already.

[@jannew1716]

Seeing the tiny scuffle between the 2 dogs and now knowing that it's just boundaries & communication has been helpful for our household.

[@EW-ed6kd]

Playing a leash pressure game was game changing for my newest addition. Teaching a dog that feeling a bit of pressure means come to me because I have treats is so useful!

[@individualcanine]

So this is okay for y’all but an e collar isn’t? Lol it’s literally can be the same thing

[@DrasticSkuba]

Love how you made clear how important dog-to-dog communication can be, especially from an older, socialised dog to a younger one. I think your reaction as well was firm yet calm, which definitely helped to make the dogs feel safe even when they had had a little conflict. Good video and informative

[@Saphire023]

We need a multi dog fetch tutorial!!!

[@plsdi111]

This is a joke. Mixing positive reinforcement with negative reinforcement and positive punishment loose leash walk is something you teach to your dog for about some minutes to get it. You have a puppy, with no learnt bad behaviours and you’re still here after weeks of training? Not hours, not days, that would be also too long. but weeks….Do you call yourself professional? 😅 No, they don’t become aggressive because of positive punishment or negative reinforcement. If you choke your dog, snap your dog but with wrong timing, if you as the owner are angry, yes it’s probably going to make the dog more frustrated. But a well timed correction where the dog understands why he got it, only makes the dog try something else, and you can reward it. The big picture is the most important thing. Are you runnung a circus, or a millitary? Zak runs a circus, and if you never reward your dog, only punish bad behaviours, you’re going to have a soldier. If you use positive reinforcement most of the time, but you communicate what not to do as well, you’re going to have a confident, well behaved dog that knows the rules, and the consequences. It’s also funny that you say when your dog corrects this puppy is healty and totally acceptable, but if you correct it’s not. What’s the logic behind that? Why is it better to give another dog the leadership, rather than you step in, when the dog needs a correction? You call it communication, but when you do it it’s abusement? 😀

[@user-xy7de6ql9m]

Excellent

[@annaf8609]

Please do more in this series! Fixing to get a new puppy so I want to learn all I can. 😊

[@xCCflierx]

He did a full series on raising inertia

[@annaf8609]

@@xCCflierx What was it titled or what was the date so I can watch it? I would love to watch it. 😊

[@HaiJosephine]

Go through all his videos. He has plenty of puppy series with a bunch of different breeds.

[@phoenixdeleon6390]

Great episode Zak and Bree! The training around leash pressure is such a useful one. I really like the way you've been weaving in the science around nervous system responses/neurochemical release and connecting that to everything you're teaching. Thanks for being such a thoughtful and nuanced dog trainer and sharing your work freely.

[@zakgeorge]

Thank you.

[@mitmamitmus4113]

You only train pups or easy dogs .Dog Daddy has forgotten more than you walk ever know

[@cassie3787]

​@mitmamitmus4113 lol what? Also, Zak has multiple series training adult rescues as well. Dog Daddy is an abusive hack.

[@jasondubue]

Been watching your channel since we got our now 2-year old German Shepherd puppy! Keep up great training content like this please! Calling out improper trainers is important-but I feel there were too many videos dedicated to that subject, so it's great to see regular training content again on your channel. That's what I'm here for, leadership in ethical dog training!

[@tanehodgson5951]

Thank you for joining the balanced community Zak

[@artymcflyy6755]

You beat me to it! Damn you!!

[@toni19292]

Leash pressure is negative reinforcement. This is not purely positive lol.

[@ktyler90kt]

I appreciate the transparency of showing Shade & Inertia's communication in the context of your home as this is a "natural" communication between dogs. Play does allow dogs to climatize to one another and learn to coexist. However, can you show your viewers more into the world of confrontation between dogs: what is a healthy level of play and when to insert yourself when climatizing & socializing dogs if aggression gets too much in their play.

[@zakgeorge]

Sure. And we have done that in past series as well. But generally, I like to intervene before the scuffles have a chance to become common place.

[@1337flite]

@zakgeorge - This appears to be a backflip on your previous thoughts: "...punishments and aversion are never required. There is no known instance in the animal kingdom where using physical punishment is required to create new behaviour or to stop unwanted behaviour." kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIiwkJp-graUi7M . Forgive me if I have made any errors in my quoting, but I think the quote is correct in any case people can see it for themselves at the link provided.

[@plsdi111]

He’s thoughts are full of backflips. He has an ideology based on uncorrectly made scientific experiments which actually claim nothing. He makes a big bubble with his opinion, facts that fit into it are propagated, facts that doesn’t fit into his bubble are ignored. The saddest thing is that people who doesn’t understand dog behaviour, communication and training methods belive it, cause its sounds sexy, that you never have to use aversives. Altough most of the time it’s not true, but nice to imagine. At least it’s nice to see, that not everybody belives that, and people start to wake up.

[@Miarije]

Maybe Inertia knows how big Shade is gonna get.. she's like "dude, you can't just walk over dogs like that, you're gonna squish them when you're older!" 😂Love how they immediately de-escalated, Inertia definitely knows how to talk to puppies and Shade handled it like a boss too!

[@noellewithane6111]

It's a thing. 100%

[@kellipolsinelli9248]

Zak, I really need your help, I've been thrown into a situation I don't know how to handle, you're the only one I trust, I will pay any fees for your help.

[@LyranSoul]

As you can see, he doesn't help people since you got no response. You better put your trust in someone who is actually qualified to help you.

[@HaiJosephine]

​@@LyranSoulhe responds to many viewers. Unfortunately there are thousands of comments and it's hard to notice them all with the amount of videos as well. He has a life and can't scroll for hrs.

[@LyranSoul]

@@HaiJosephine I know he doesn't respond to most of the comments with problems or questions. But he sure continually responds to the ones who praise and agree with him😀. And you must not be very familiar with social media. He doesn't have to scroll through anything, he gets notified of new comments. And i beg to differ about him having a life, as much time and energy as he wastes bashing other trainers on all his social media platforms.

[@HaiJosephine]

Please do your research and you will find evidence to back his claims. Think what you want but be fair and research it first.

[@LyranSoul]

@@HaiJosephine 🥱

[@chanil45]

This is the perfect series for me! In a few months from now im Planning to get my own pitbull Puppy! Gonna rewatch this when my pitty gets here :)

[@iamjocanadian]

You'd be better off watching Larry Krohn

[@armandhammer2235]

Don't do it to the dog. If you follow Zak your pit will end up in a shelter.

[@alisha_madariaga]

@@iamjocanadian you took the words right out of my mouth. LOVE Larry krohn!! He’s a FANTASTIC trainer . Its immediately apparent just how much he cares about the animal And how important it is to him that the handler/owner have all the tools necessary to properly handle that animal. Training is so much more about the handler than it is the dog more often than not. He never sugar coats anything either. If an owner is not doing right by their dog, he is going to tell you, since his focus is ALWAYS about what is best for the dog. Not the owner .

[@HaiJosephine]

Zaks tips are extremely helpful and work! I would also check out Mcann Dogs. They are very similar.

[@ChristyG907]

I have learned a lot from your videos and I'm a seasoned dog owner. My current dog I adopted as an adult. He was largely untrained. Using your techniques, patience and persistence throw in lots of love I have an awesome dog. I've seen lots of doggie body language at the local off leash dog parks. The only ones that seem to over re-act are the humans. Veronica has turned into a good looking little dog.

[@amybombamy1336]

What would you advise i use for my 4 month pld goldendoodle in terms of leash or harness for best results? Thank you

[@plsdi111]

He would advice harness. Always. I think the harness is the worst tool for that. It’s made for pulling, and that’s the tool which is the most uneffective if you want to communicate with the dog. There are a lot of tools which can help you to communicate with the dog, for example slip leash, prong collar or e collar. But it’s really important to understand, that the point is not the tool. The point is: can you communicate with the dog? Because if you don’t know how to use these tools properly, if you don’t know how these tools work and how you can communicate with them, they cause more stress for the dog. Look for a trainer who can teach you using these tools, who makes you understand the fundamentals of communication and leadership. Even choosing between these tools depends on the dogs sensitivity level, what you use it for, and depends on your handling skills as the handler.

[@artymcflyy6755]

Herm sprenger

[@hermitwatcher8997]

Zak George figured out that dogs like cane corsos are not to be f-ked with. They aren’t a doodle

[@margaretfleming3554]

Wow, can Veronica move! Another wonderful teaching post.

[@lucy5097]

this is good but we need to learn more about big dogs and how to handle them when they act uncomfortable or have behavior toward others 🙏🏻

[@marydeemock101]

PLEASE share with us what you would do if dog interaction does NOT deescalate & there's a fight.

[@zakgeorge]

You break it up anyway you can.

[@marydeemock101]

@@zakgeorge ...and then what to do with the damaged dog relationship between the two?

[@janhankins911]

@@marydeemock101 That is a time to call in a reinforce based trainer or veterinary behaviorist. Breaking up a fight is serious business and you have to worry about not only protecting the dogs but yourself as well. And the thing is that many of the methods suggested can actually escalate the fight. For example, many people say get a blast horn and give it a blast when the dogs fight. That can work--or it can actually just escalate the fight. It's best to have two people so the dogs can be separated more easily. I've been alone and had to break up a fight between two Great Danes (two females that were out to kill one another) and I (without so much as a thought) waded into the middle of it (I'm an agnostic and I don't pray often--I was pretty much yelling "God help me!") and got chewed up but not seriously. I was lucky. So I don't suggest just wading into the middle of it--you may not be as lucky as I was. Squirting them with water is often suggested, or slipping a board or something solid between then works, as well (but that sliding the board in takes practice). As for repairing the relationship, that can be done in many cases, but in other cases, you'll have to think about rehoming one of the dogs. We had that happen and we ended up having to rehome one of the dogs. It was one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make and I agonized over it and cried buckets. But we did what we thought was best for everyone and I think we made the right decision. The dog we rehomed went to a dynamite home and he just blossomed there and was so much happier than he was at our home. We just weren't the right home for that dog (even though we consider ourselves a "good" home). Best of luck to you. I truly hope you'll be able to repair the relationship between the two. Until you get help, though, keep them separated. If you let the fighting continue, you run the risk of someone getting hurt and it will become increasingly difficult to repair the relationship.

[@DrasticSkuba]

​@@marydeemock101Attempting to repair or rebuild the relationship very much depends on the situation. Do these dogs live together? Do you live with the dogs alone or with a partner? If the dogs live at home with you, the most important thing is that YOU the human at home does not act worried, scared or nervous. If you have that energy (because you are worried it might kick off st any moment), it will be felt by the dogs. That will put them on edge and increase of the chance of reactive responses to anything around them. Any dog trainer or behaiourist worth their salt won't give TOO many specific suggestions in a severe case online without assessing the situation themselves. Safety is, or should be, the number one priority

[@cinders0905]

​@@marydeemock101It's really going to depend on WHY the fight happened. Is it a unique situation? Consistent? What's the triggers? For example, if it's fighting over a toy or food, that can be managed with separate playtime or feeding in kennels. Redirected aggression could be much more complicated.

[@harm0ny696]

Thank you Zak since watching you I have found better ways to manage our dogs anxiety and fear. And it’s lead to a better bond. She comes to me for comfort when she’s afraid of most things.

[@andreaflores8334]

I was waiting for another episode, thank you! :)

[@maddog5225]

How do you get 2 dogs to play and share. So for example.. everytime we toss a toy.. The puppy wants everything the 2 year old dog goes to get. Not sure how to word it but how do you get the new puppy to share and let the other dog to have a turn ...

[@DrasticSkuba]

Shade seems to be coming along great. A big bundle of joy. Such a beautiful breed

[@n02p]

"Back up management strategies", translation = Physical force. That's not a strategy the Positive only community I see online would ever accept. Careful Mr. George. They'll start coming for you next.

[@n02p]

"Physical communication". LOL

[@ethanletzer3507]

What are your thoughts on the possibility of the dog learning that pulling on the leash is what's getting him the reward?

[@raydayer234]

Shade is going to be over a hundred pounds before episode 2...Are you having trouble training him?

[@chloedaschner8034]

Hi Zak. How can i contact you privately, i need your help..please?

[@LenaDieters11]

It would be great to see a video on how to deescalate a 'dog fight' or dog aggression for when two dogs meet on a walk or two dog households etc!

[@zakgeorge]

Definitely. I’ve certainly made videos multiple times on this topic. But I’m sure I will make more. Step number one is responsible management though. Make it virtually impossible for dogs to fight while you address underlying causes.

[@JenKirby]

There’s all kinds of difficulties that can arise between 2 dogs in a household. My problem with Marzieh and dear old Jasper was that she kept humping him and her seasons went on longer and more often than average. The solution was obvious but it was delayed because we had Covid lockdown then.

[@Doggydogg-vj5sh]

We adopted a second dog 8 months ago since our dog loved playing with other dogs so much. We picked the same race (Weimaraner) because we knew she was comfortable around her own kind. It took a long time before they got comfortable with one another, to a point where they played nicely together and tolerate themselves. But for a couple of weeks, we started having situations where the youngest attack the oldest, same as the one you show in your video, but way more intense (we saw blood once...). It looks like territorial issues... We followed your many videos with both of them and I think we did a pretty good job, but the youngest is not yet spayed, so we hope that will calm her tendencies to crack, but would love some advice in a future video!

[@Cactuscarlo]

For that kind of content, go to Dog Daddy he is the best at aggressive dogs ,right now, he is being targeted by jealous incompetent ,narcissist trainers

[@Jaybird43]

​@@zakgeorgehow do force free trainers recommend breaking up a dog fight? I was told to choke them out but then I saw dd give that advice & I'm having doubts that it was good info. Tia

[@iamjocanadian]

My dog refused to leave the house after we had street construction for a month. Turned him into a fearful introvert. The ONLY thing that helped was aversive leash pressure and not giving him an inch. He's now back to normal, thriving and happy. Your techniques did nothing.

[@judybeverley-harvey5899]

Zak, great episode!.Great to see you, have missed you!

[@ac_az]

Love the content

[@zakgeorge]

Thank you. This is one of my favorite episodes of the series so far. But it gets better!

[@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894]

Verbal corrections from dog to dog are extremely effective.

[@georgenakasone7613]

Inertia actually nipped Shade, just like a pop on the prong collar. You see how effective a good timed correction can be? It can be dog on dog or human to dog. The important part is the timing so that the dog understands exactly what they are being corrected for.

[@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894]

@@georgenakasone7613 Are you a dog? No? Inertia is. Dog to dog communication is one thing. You’re not a dog. A prong is not the same. A for effort on justifying aversives. It’s an argument though that’s been made and debunked over and over. Keep up.

[@georgenakasone7613]

​@@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894how has it been debunked? It's quite the opposite.

[@artymcflyy6755]

@@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894you probably go to dog parks too I’m guessing 😂

[@youngchuchu08]

❤❤❤

[@ReneeJameson]

We have a multi dog household (4) 2 are feral . One is very shy but sweet. The other a pitbull both about 11 months old. We have a senior shiba who isn’t accepting of the pitbull. We have broken up 3 altercations each time the Shiba being the aggressor. Thankfully the pitbull is respectful of us as pack leaders for now. And does de escalate. Worried about that time when he doesn’t. Separation is working g for now but do you have any suggestions?

[@LyranSoul]

You need to go to an actual training channel for help lol. He never answers any questions like this. Prob bcuz he doesn't know the answer.

[@iamhis5580]

Do you list or sell the tools you use in dog training? Like the leash with the 10 foot lead, harness, accessories?

[@artymcflyy6755]

I have learned what not to do through your videos

[@jamiemcgahey6956]

Zak George puppy influencer not trainer and Barry manilow lookalike

[@markwilkins9048]

Just found this guy’s channel. Any time I hear someone say “science based” especially when it comes to dog training, I take caution. Dog training is all about communication, relationship and understanding dog behavior. Once you clearly communicate what you want, you reward positive behavior and correct bad behavior. Putting a harness on a puppy is ridiculous,,especially for a large, high drive dog. A harness is great for protecting your dog in a dangerous environment like hiking in the mountains, but if you use it to control your dog on a walk or protect from the threat of another dog all you do is incite his/her fight/flight syndrome and exacerbate the situation.

[@armandhammer2235]

100% agree

[@satxrnprod]

Its funny how you said that a correction from your dog to the puppy was healty and helped the puppy understand boundaries but you wont even Touch the dog out of fear to terrify it ... Why do you refuse to comunicate effectivly with your dog in the natural way they talk to each other? My dog isnt fearful or aggressive and i use measured corrections

[@mariep4018]

Do you know what I love about your videos! not all trainers are like you. You could see you’re really passionate about what you do! And that you really love dogs. And that’s why I chose you over everybody else on the Internet. I love my dogs like my children and I think you do too.❤

[@janhankins911]

So glad you're showing appropriate interaction between dogs. Sometimes it sounds really scary! But well socialized adults very seldom hurt puppies and they are really tolerant of the pups. But when the puppy does push the boundaries too far, the adult will let them know that that was too much. It is a great learning experience for the puppy (they learn limits and larger dogs learn that they can't "push their weight around"). And, NO, these interactions between an adult dog and a puppy are in no way, shape, or form, the same as "correcting" a puppy (or adult dog) with aversive methods. They aren't the same because (a) you aren't a dog (and dogs are smart enough to know you aren't a dog), (b) the puppy understands the message sent by the adult dog and isn't confused about why he or she was "corrected", and (c) the puppy isn't anxious after the encounter with the adult dog.

[@OKLynnie]

You realize that any type of force or correction is aversive, right? So there's no legit reason why you should be at war with other trainers that use this same force in their training.

[@zakgeorge]

I do not understand that this is aversive. The point is to make it non-versive so dogs don’t have a stress response triggered when they do experience tension on the leash.

[@georgenakasone7613]

​@@zakgeorgeso if you did the exact same thing with a prong collar would you consider it aversive?

[@armandhammer2235]

​@@zakgeorgeYou own a border collie, the smartest breed out there and watching you, 😂

[@individualcanine]

@@zakgeorgewell I can do the same with a e collar and do stim- food - stim - food like a clicker - like leash pressure- pressure- food. So I guess e collars aren’t aversive then 👏🏻

[@Woof-Wisdom]

What is the "ethical force" solution to a 7 year old 65lb pit bull that pulls like a freight train on a harness, trying to go after the neighbor's cat, hyper-focuses on her target and ignores high value rewards?

[@zakgeorge]

I have so many videos with so many dogs just like this on KZbin I would encourage you to look at. Bottom line is exercise before training sessions, exposure to exciting environments outside of walk time… But there is a solution.

[@brandonmartin1361]

You’re asking the wrong guy😂 you need to ask dog daddy because his training methods actually work and are very effective. This Zack guy is Play jealous trying to sabotage another trainer because he’s competition and he knows his methods are better. If Zack had better way of training dogs he would’ve accepted dog daddies challenge to prove to him that his style of training is better but he refuses to challenge him because he knows the cold hard truth. Using treats to get a dog to do what you want them to is useless and when you don’t have treats the dog won’t listen. Zach is literally slandering dog daddy’s name and reputation which she should be sued for and he tells his followers to go to his page and do everything they can to try and shut him down, this guy is an immature little weasel.

[@Woof-Wisdom]

@@brandonmartin1361 lol, I know that! I've been rehabilitating "last chance" dogs since 2003. Difficult dogs do need more love, more understanding and more patience but they also need firm structure and boundaries and you can't communicate that with bribery. Such a "positive only" relationship between two people would be considered pathological and unhealthy. How is it any different between a person and a dog?

[@phyllisbennett5414]

​@Woof-Wisdom so are you advocating domestic violence?!

[@OKLynnie]

Better off asking Robert Cabral because he wont bs you or the situation. @@brandonmartin1361

[@onajourney4380]

What breed is Veronica?

[@ebayed]

What’s the orange harness? Could we get a link?

[@B.ElkieFae]

Lives with!? I thought he was your family's new dog? Do you have a new baby!! Awe!!!

[@jfrankcarr]

Be careful when leaving those delicious Pupfords in your pocket. Your dog will learn that's where the treats are. Our standard poodle pup chewed a hole in my pants to get them when I forgot to put them in my closet.

[@zakgeorge]

Good point!

[@DrasticSkuba]

Haha I have lost a few pairs of shorts and trousers to this 😂

[@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894]

😂 what’s funny is anytime I put my hands in my pockets , my one dog thinks treats are coming and instantly walks in a perfect heel with 100% engagement! Like he was obedience trained.

[@user-yo7ou6xy4c]

Strong part 75

[@user-ro4kr4ij7y]

What kind of dog is Veronica?

[@janmb]

I absolutely love your dog training content, and have learned a ton. But let's just move on from the drama please. While I can appreciate the need for making sure viewers don't subscribe to unethical ideas, human drama is not what I'm here for. I'm sure that goes for most other viewers as well.

[@zakgeorge]

Are you referring to something in this video? If so, what?

[@janmb]

@@zakgeorge Nah, was more thinking about the whole dog daddy crap.

[@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894]

@@janmbit’s not crap. He’s using his platform to advocate for human science/evidence based training and licensure for dog trainers. If you understood the issue fully, you wouldn’t make this comment. Obviously you don’t understand.

[@janmb]

@@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894 Read my initial comment again. I DO understand. My point is that all human drama is negative BS - completely regardless of who is right or wrong. There's a reason I watch THIS channel and not dog daddy. But I'm here for dog training - not human fights

[@LyranSoul]

​@@hikewoofwigglerepeat4894Yeah, way to get your point across with that patronizing and condescending attitude. Wonder why you're a Zak fan. Birds of a feather flock together 😂.

[@heatherberg2611]

Do you have any tips about this with a younger German shepherd (9 mth), and an older small dog (corgi/dachsund mix) and cats? Our Shepherd is so big compared to our other animals and gets to rough with them.

[@janhankins911]

Part of the problem is your Shepherd's age (9 months). He'll settle down some as he gets older. Does the older dog set boundaries and limits with the Shepherd? If she does, do NOT punish her or prevent her from doing so. If she doesn't and the Shepherd gets too rough, it will be up to you to redirect the Shepherd. Stop play for a second or two (perhaps by calling the Shepherd to you for a reinforcer--either a treat or a little play session) and then allow play to resume. If play just gets too rough, you may need to put an end to that play session. Occupy the dogs with a food toy or with some training work--don't focus on "relax" at that time, your dogs may be too amped up. As for the cats, I've found that most cats will set boundaries quite readily (one good swipe with claws extended usually does the trick). If your cat doesn't, make sure all interactions are supervised and interrupt play if it gets too rough. Make certain your cat has a place to escape from the dog (a cat tree that is too high for the dogs to reach will do nicely). A nice high place for the cat(s) will allow the cat(s) to decide "enough is enough" and get out of the dog's reach without the cats getting hurt or having to resort to a nice swipe across the dog's nose (which will usually necessitate a vet visit--cat scratches can be really nasty and get infected easily). Sorry if I've gotten the genders wrong, you didn't specify, so I just picked a gender.

[@heatherberg2611]

@@janhankins911 thank you! You got the genders correct, male shepherd and female dachshund/corgi! We have two cats, the one doesn’t take any crap from him but he does use his size to invade my cats space, my other cat is primarily outdoors (by choice) and doesn’t really come around anymore. We see him every few days when it’s night time and our shepherd is in his kennel for bedtime. I will definitely just keep standing by and watching, making sure that I can intervene when he’s getting too rough.

[@cinders0905]

​@@heatherberg2611Good idea to be on standby! I know my two boys (3 & 2) can accidentally run roughshod over my senior citizen (14). They aren't even intentionally playing with her but they will be zooming and misjudge. I try to stay near here so I can take the hit lol😂

[@naisha8499]

i'm first!! Your videos are really helpful Zak! Keep up the good work

[@Luckynina597]

using tiny leash pressure vs using tiny ecollar pressure is no different...

[@aheart04]

This is what I came here to say. His methodology here is no different than proper Ecollar technique…

[@jasonce123]

The multi-dog struggle is real! I have a slightly different problem, BOTH my 8 yo lab and 15 week old newfie want to play with each other constantly, cant even have them in the same room together when its settle time (when the puppy is overtired and needs a nap!)

[@noellewithane6111]

Stop overdoing it. Dogs get exhausted after 2 hrs straight of playing. Hurts puppy growth plates. Sleep and discipline is just as important.

[@zakgeorge]

I personally wouldn’t use the word discipline because structure serves the purpose but semantics.

[@jasonce123]

@@noellewithane6111 oh we make sure to keep them separated a lot! We only let them play for maybe 15 mins at a time 2-3 times a day. My lab just hates not having full reign of the house anymore. Definitely a work in progress. Can't wait until they can be in the same room and not have to play.

[@joysdogtraining]

Teaching 'place' is the best thing I ever taught my kids, night time is place time and rest. They have it down pat.

[@genagx]

Is this your cane corso puppy??

[@andrewfarrar741]

#ProjectZero

[@hayleybaycreative]

What is the best solution if the younger dog doesn’t understand correction from the older dog. We’ve had to completely separate our Aussie puppy and our older Jack Russel because of fights between them as well as guarding behavior. I think it is important to note our puppy is extremely reactive/aggressive as well since we got her at 3 months and even with puppy school we haven’t been able to safely introduce her to many other dogs.

[@icefirewolfodell9946]

It's fine for dogs to correct other dogs, just as long it doesn't break out into a fight I have had muilple dogs throughout my childhood, tons of corrections from each dog Even my newest dog accidentally stepped on the older dog and got corrected for it, but no fight But I also dealt with two dog fights that were bad Both dogs protective of an object One was the gose, which ended in blood The other one was a chew, which ended before it got worst Those fights happen due to two dominant females My boy dogs never fought surprisingly Only every female I ever had (all dogs fixed by the way) But now I only have boys They don't fight, just healthy corrections every so often

[@user-ph7gk8iu5g]

Kuchli bosh 81

[@joymenefee4351]

Licking and yawning is a displacement behavior! They are uninterested in what is going on. They are doing that because they want to you to leave them alone.

[@Jaybird43]

The moment after Inertia corrected Shade where you gave Veronica a kiss on the head ❤❤❤

[@zetateal6428]

Truthfully; I feel for you, Zak. I understand where you're coming from. It is obvious to any educated mind; that you want to overtake this young man. But why?? Why are you exhausting yourself with all this negativity?? Try to .. JUST RELAX. 🤗 It isn't necessary to work yourself up into a frenzy of negative emotions; simply because you are totally baffled and cannot wrap your brain around how Augusto is able to do what he does. You are wearing yourself out and making yourself sick. Just relax. Learn to love 💖 and accept yourself AS YOU ARE; and once you do that; then you can accept Augusto As He Is; as well. Because, you see; the reason you're So OBSESSED with him is because you're feeling Inferior. You feel excluded. If you can learn to love & accept 💕 yourself; you will feel a part of humanity again and will be able to see Augusto through new eyes; and accept him; AS HE IS, as well! And you'll have a renewed calm and peace in your life. Truly; sincerely; I wish you happiness and peace. Not just this Holiday season. Release those negative feelings that imprison you and open your heart to the joy and happiness that surround you. ❤️ Happy Holidays, Zak.

[@SBOK41]

You just don't get it at all

[@Flowergirl363]

Hi Zac, I have a 7 month old border collie puppy her name is Athena! And she has “ fear reactivity” for the last 3 months I have been trying my absolute hardest to fix it but nothing seems to be working. She is great at home, really good obedience at home she heels, come, stay, sit, down, stand, retrive sticks and then gives them to me and much more, she is an extremely smart dog. But i have tried so many things but 1. I can’t get her to stop barking at dogs 2. Can’t go past a dog without barking 3. Can’t go up to random dog that is fine. she gets really sacred and anxious around other dogs, I have tried a lot of things but nothing is working can you PLEASE make a video about everything you know about fear reactivity, how to fix it etc. I have been a fan of you, for 2yrs now I love your videos and I really need help with my puppy.

[@genny475]

I highly recommend the Dogs That channel by Susan Garett for reactivity! In this vid she explains how to use counter-conditioning with operant conditioning to desensitize a dog to their triggers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJDcZXp5jbyZeMUsi=pOQxmuD202xA8DK4

[@LyranSoul]

Realize Zak generally never answers questions for actual help although this is a dog training channel lol. He does however, mostly answer comments of people praising his methods. So you will prob need to go elsewhere for actual help.

[@cinders0905]

I would look up some videos on counter conditioning. I'm newish to Zacks channel so I don't know if he has one or not. Also, for management I use a can of cheese wiz if my dog is over threshold - my latest trainer showed me that trick because it's an easy to manage high value treat. I have a dog with severe barrier aggression (at 8 weeks he was like a tasmanian devil in a kennel). We've come a long way in three years of positive reinforcement and after a consultation with a behavioral vet supplemented our positive reinforcement with medication. It may be that your dog is a solo dog and that's okay. It may be that counter conditioning might address an underlying fear. It may be a chemical imbalance that requires medical support. If you have a good vet, start there. But it will be a journey.

[@Flowergirl363]

@cinders0905 thank you so much! For the advice, I have considered that Athena is a solo dog.

[@Flowergirl363]

@jendoodle thanks so much, Athena doesn’t wear a muzzle and probably will never she isn’t aggressive 😊 i haven’t heard of those dog trainer I WILL definitely have a looks thanks!

[@applehead_mjinnocent3826]

🙌🏻

[@D--man]

Thanks for the video!!

[@suran396]

Your videos are great ... but ....there is definitely one missing! Here's the subject: You bring home your 8 week old puppy and 4 days later every human is in bed with bad flu. Where's the survival guide for THAT? Also, we are finally sort of getting better, but all our best intentions have been overthrown ...how do we go about resetting rules when we in pure survival mode for a week, let practically everything slide?

[@arnoldlayne9469]

"Hey, I WON'T hurt you if you come with me.." You don't really have a choice, but I also didn't do anything to you.. Non-adversive force. All you're doing is conditioning the dog slowly to being pulled on the leash. This is still using force.. you're just not pairing it with anything meaningful.

[@arnoldlayne9469]

Also you're teaching the dog that the force of pulling results in a reward. So eventually, the dog will learn to create that pressure in order to remove it to get the treat. Ya gotta stop this propaganda of purely positive while you're gradually integrating balanced methods and just veiling them with fun poppy influencer speak.

[@janhankins911]

Veronica looks like a little Saluki!! She's very cute. Did want to say something about body language. Some body postures are pretty clear while others are context specific. For example, yawning is context specific. Yawning can mean the dog just woke up from a nice nap, or yawning can mean the dog is a little uncomfortable with what's happening and you might want to back off. Shaking is another context specific behavior. If the dog just got out of a bath (or out of a lake after a nice swim), shaking is just removing excess water from the fur. But shaking (when not wet) can be a sign of stress (shaking it off). So that all makes body language more difficult, but just remember to take context into account. If your dog has just gotten up from a nice nap and yawns, he's probably not anxious. But if you put him in the car and he yawns, he may be a little anxious about the car ride.

[@ilovemyfurrykids6607]

Thank you for sharing! 😁

[@zakgeorge]

You are so welcome!

[@joymenefee4351]

You're also using a harness on a large breed dog which is teaching them to pull more. Smh... So ofcourse you have to use "leash pressure" I dont care what you say but once you train with a prong you can remove and use a regular collar and leash pressure. By teaching them leash pressure in a harness you are encouraging their instinctive behavior to pull.

[@margaretyoung991]

Our Malinois races to me if I am.an unsteady on feet. As she is trying to balance someone probably three times her weight of at times pull me ( when asked to) she can have considerable harness pressure. It doesn't seem to bother her at all. She knows she is helping. Trained herself to prevent falls, or if that isn't possible to minimise the damage. The minimise damage one is scary as she taught herself a manoeuvre where she runs under me to break the fall, darting out at the last second, but I have less distance to go then and don't get hurt. So scared she will get hurt but she is so very proud of herself to see I am ok. I am sure dog I was tugging the harness or lead with same strengths but angry she would see it as aversive. She chooses to help . If it was a correction she would have no choice in the matter. I think choice is everything, and of course intent.it

[@rolltide9547]

Zak trained my pit bull now it thinks it is a cat.

[@ParanormalPulse411]

Playing fetch with a mastiff puppy 🤦 Apparently Zak does not understand how he can be possibly doing long term damage on the joints. You should never be forcing a Cane Corso puppy to run at this age. Especially since a lot of Corsos are very play driven they will go all day despite if it hurts or not.

[@zakgeorge]

I did point out how it’s extremely important to be conservative. But teaching puppies how to use their bodies in moderation is a critical skill.

[@scwample]

Hey Zak! I’ve been watching your videos for a little while now, and they have really opened my eyes to dog training and care! I don’t where my dog or I would be without your videos, so I just wanted to say they’re really making a difference for people like me! I also wanted to ask you if you could explain the difference between the words “stay” and “wait,” as I know they are similar but different. Thanks for all you do!💜

[@AnimaTriste]

Another fake profile.

[@scwample]

@@AnimaTriste What makes you say that?

[@muffinman4353]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[@typewriter6885]

RE: Dog Drama, Since Veronica has been nervous around Shade, I wonder if Inertia was protecting Veronica. Wouldn't doubt it. Inertia is amazing reading the surrounding. Glad to see Veronica warming up to Shade.

[@zakgeorge]

Anything is possible! Though I didn’t quite interpret it that way. But we are never inside our dog’s minds!

[@jamesjackson2580]

😂😂😂

[@endlessnameless8181]

This dude is the kinda guy, that would give a loosing team trophies 😂😂😂

[@philh8829]

Veronica is a freaking zoomie missile. Jesus she’s fast. Time for an agility course.

[@MsSwingin]

I do wonder if getting attached to you and his dogfriend, training him this way and than seperating is less stress then just giving him a physical correction for certain behaviour while staying with his family. I really like your methods, so it is not to be smart or rude, but a sincere thought.

[@janhankins911]

That's a good question. I'll try to answer since I was involved with rescue for so long. We would get in dogs that came from horrible situations (some of these dogs had been living in simply hellish conditions). Rescue was often the first time these dogs had been treated nicely and not treated with violence. Some of the dogs were slow to trust, others didn't take much time at all. I would like to think the dogs I worked with "liked" me and got a bit attached to me. But we never found it difficult to place the dog in a loving home (we were pretty picky about who got a dog and who didn't)--a home where we knew the dog would never be treated with violence or aversive methods again. Most the dogs made the transition from rescue to "furever" home seamlessly. I don't think Shade will have any issues going back to his "real" people.

[@zakgeorge]

As we move on we will teach him how to stay without having to give him a correction. We want to avoid trying to train every little thing at one time. It’s only day three

[@LyranSoul]

Zacariah where are your testimonials from ACTUAL DOGS YOU TRAINED???

[@RealityandCommonSense]

Your not dealing with really dangerous dogs that aer out of control and have bitten before. But cute channel for your sweet puppy puppy training and selling all your products. Stick to what you know.

[@Anthony5-]

If any of you are struggling with a reactive dog, please don’t look to trainers like Zac. There are far more experienced trainers with a brain. Zac and other “force free trainers” will get your dog the blue juice like the other dogs they’ve sent to die

[@HaiJosephine]

His methods work. Most aggression derives from anxiety and fear. So using forceful tactics for those dogs can cause the situation to escalate and cause the dog to potentially fear you. I've witnessed the difference between the two with my own dog.

[@Anthony5-]

@@HaiJosephine clown

[@patrickcannon2851]

Even a dog corrects another dog like the collie did, thats why corrections work you trying to train without corrections is not the real world.

[@jerrywilson6464]

I still have yet to find a video of this guy training an over aggressive red zone dog. Since you hate on the Dog Daddy so much, prove your credibility by showing us you training an attacking dominant aggressive dog. I was a successful guard dog trainer in the military for 20 years. I have handled and trained some of the most aggressive and scary dogs alive. I've seen dogs do major damage to people. And no, for most of them, initially using food was not the answer. They would attack anyway. Sounds like this guy feels the Dog Daddy is a threat to his brand.

[@mauritsdonga7663]

Mmm, maybe the military is wrong, it isn't the first time the military has been wrong. Science is on the side of Zak here for multiple years now.

[@makaiperry]

Well said I came on this channel to talk shit as well this Zak guy is a straight hater and clown 🤡😂👍🏽

[@fr34kyg1rl1990]

There‘s no such thing as red zone dogs - that’s not an actual, existing term 😊 that’s pseudoscience, my friend. You don’t see him training dogs that are extremely aroused and aggressive because if you don’t push dogs around and intimidate them, most of them don’t go there

[@masterrelicrelic6151]

@@fr34kyg1rl1990your life must be butterflies and rainbows then.

[@nathaliegatcheco5595]

Hurry, pretty soon Dog Daddy will have more subscribers than you 😢

[@ParanormalPulse411]

He put ZERO weight on her. She corrected before he had any weight on her. Nothing wrong with that but your incorrect by saying he put weight on her.

[@Heyjot]

😘😘😘😘😘😘😘

[@thomas9334]

I see you train dogs that don't need to be trained. Please show as what to do with really aggressive dogs (apart from euthanasia). Show something that will go beyond this idyllic pattern of your boring films.

[@armandhammer2235]

I dare you Zak to set your phone on a tripod and just show us working with a dog for 15 minutes of unedited, no voice over training. You can't do it, you will lose sponsors.

[@bettebruce2277]

That doesn’t make sense. There would be gaps of inactivity, similar to dead air on the radio. Response to training takes time and repetition. I believe most dog owners understand that. The point here and in these videos is to demonstrate Zak’s particular methods of training. If people weren’t having success with his techniques, I doubt he would have any followers. That being said, every dog is different. Some dogs may need a bit more work and longer training. Maybe you have experience with a dog that requires more time. A Border Collie will train faster than a Great Pyrenees for example. Maybe Zac would be able to respond if you had questions.

[@armandhammer2235]

@@bettebruce2277 you missed the 15 minutes of unedited training on a tripod didn't you? Larry Krohn does it. I know, not glamorous enough for you R+ only trainers.

[@John-lo4xz]

I thought you weren't supposed to use force.

[@raydayer234]

when is episode 2 going to start??????

[@zakgeorge]

We’ve posted the first five episodes. Episode six comes out tomorrow

[@raydayer234]

@@zakgeorge I have yet to see one titled “EPISODE 2”

[@raydayer234]

CAN'T find.... All I see are short pop ups about things. @@zakgeorge

[@HaiJosephine]

​@@raydayer234 go back 2 months and there is episode 2. Also checkout the playlist section, all are in order.

[@davidguthrie5941]

🙄

[@conniedrake3733]

Wow, the comments are awful here. After seeing both approaches, Zaks way worked wayyy better for my dog. I am bonded with my dog, and the long term results are soo much better than the other things i've tried. Would like some advice and tips on breaking up a baking at other dogs aggressively at the fence. Saw Dog Daddy sick his dogs on someone laughing about it, so unprofessional, and a hot mess.

[@OriginalEverydayDave]

Pretty sure the sic his dogs on the Karens videos are completely bogus. I bet that girl and him are buddies and he's doing it for laughs. Still unprofessional tho

[@rachelssoapbox9343]

My brother used your way of training , it went on for months and months and it never worked , we thought or believed that you knew what you was doing but you don’t, my brothers dog bite someone and now we have to contact other trainers to help him. Your a very sick individual obsessed with the dog daddy, we trusted in what you said but your just full of hot air , you talked us away from dog daddy and now look .

[@HaiJosephine]

Dog daddy is insanely abusive. Watching dogs scream and choke is NOT ok.