EPISODE 530 I Thabo on Music, Black Motion Split with Murda Bongz, DJ ZInhle, Zodwa Wabantu, Kalawa

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[@siyabongathethwayo2687]

This guy is not jealous, he gives credit to everyone

[@bluerockettraders8709]

a real dude

[@Njabulo971]

Awesome guy, he is brilliant

[@worshipndhlovu2414]

He's a realist

[@gomo8523]

And he is a peace maker Shem 🔥

[@lethiwemhlongo2763]

This is literally the first time i've heard this man talk ..

[@rockafellafx4150]

😂😂😂This man doesn't talk, even on those small intros before they perform man never said much except for "Thank you"

[@paballomoroanyane240]

i liked him instantly upon listening to him here.

[@thapelomakofane2939]

He doesn't talk much, he let's you shine

[@greatafricanone]

less is more

[@mordendayvillagefarmer2676]

Where were you when he said "ke jele, ke jele"?

[@ThatoNkosi-gy4te]

We gotta admire Smol's Loyalty even when he answers these questions he tries by all means not to throw dirt on his brother

[@leratomosiuoa5755]

Amen to that much respect

[@buyanifakudze3489]

At her peak, Bucie spoke so well about Smol's abilities and I started seeing him differently and this interview just detailed everything as well. Wishing Thabo well in the future

[@talesoleatsekatane6267]

Bruh I was literally gonna type a comment like this❤😂😂😂

[@ntsakowilliesmashila4843]

I remember seeing Bucie saying Smol wrote Rejoice 😢😢❤❤❤❤

[@makhosazanadlamini1256]

I remember that interview 💯

[@MrAmenem]

Bro Code 107: Never speak ill of your bro even after fallout

[@user-qj5xr8pu5x]

Human being code period!

[@portiamokoetla8250]

this guy yindoda straight 🥰🥰🥰

[@mashudumudau4507]

If he feel poked he gonna say his story. Here we need the truth

[@hendrickmholo8645]

Exactly bro❤

[@Djlastbornrsa]

but he never mention anything bad because they are still bros what happened was a Misunderstanding

[@TOG292]

MacG is an impeccable interviewer you cant take that away from him.

[@njabulozungu8845]

Indeed hey!

[@purpisa_dlamini]

The build up was just out of this world

[@mzwandile5248]

Interviewing a friend like you don't speak more often or know much about his life involves great talent

[@salgshaka4483]

He is easily impressed thats why he ingages very easy and its nice talking to someone like that thats why we also enjoy❤

[@alphmash4565]

'Impeccable'...Tsitsi is that you ..😅😅😅

[@itsMrKabini]

Thabo protected bongani, thats true brotherly love. Although i don't know if bongani would do the same

[@Skhobaner]

Ngeke lowana same noKhuzani ngala kumaskandi😂😂😂😂😂

[@palesammoledi6485]

He wouldn’t masepae

[@makhosazanadlamini1256]

I don't think he would.

[@dilanolebajoa]

Me too

[@thulanimadonsela8864]

The fact that Bongz cried talking about him and his brothers situation, he would also protect his brother

[@wandadlepu6210]

I went to school with Thabo, he has always been this chilled, a nice guy and respectful.

[@nomawethugama8822]

It's him calling DJ Zinhle MaZet for me😂🤣🤣 Such a cool gent

[@tsepangramaoto429]

Is Thabo high on the Show or he is just not articulate?? May God put the together again with Morda, that was the best duo of our time

[@thedarkie1]

Ke lenyora!

[@seektruth5750]

@@tsepangramaoto429we understand him just fine

[@neodihamelamabuse4821]

@@tsepangramaoto429 ke mfana Pitori. This is how we speak.

[@nwabisapbodlo3246]

He sounds fine. Re bolela so ko pta

[@ntsakowilliesmashila4843]

Smol is a music encyclopedia for real 🎉🎉🎉

[@thabohoward4140]

Please have those people he mention on the show

[@pearlita2137]

Thabo is a genius, his narration is eloquent n well informed. 🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼

[@sfundoasmr8501]

I’m telling you dear❤❤❤❤❤

[@xabisomkonde9687]

Big words there 😅👌🏾

[@malimalesela8068]

Honestly i wish this guy lots lots lots of richness in everywhere you can think off....this guy looks like a good guy

[@Lungam4u]

To all those who went to the Black Motion catalog during and after this interview ❤memories!

[@vsc_ww]

Yerr Rainbow really took me back huhh! Remember when it was fighting for song of the year with the likes of Kuze Kuse boma 2013-2014 it was a mess bro! Count Your Blessings remember mara?

[@apandbobs8931]

I did

[@sibusisoswakamisa4341]

His face glows💫 when he speaks about Murda, I so wish they were both there to share these wonderful stories 🤞🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏. Rainbow was magic

[@nqobibizizwe]

Qqqq

[@nqobibizizwe]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@rockafellafx4150]

That would've been awesome ey

[@sibusisoswakamisa4341]

@@rockafellafx4150 Aish! They must invite Morda to balance the story

[@rockafellafx4150]

If morda comes and has a similar story ya fore he doesn't know what happened, by next year they'll be back together

[@purpisa_dlamini]

Thabo is an artist, a musician, a genius. To be honest I didn’t know him like this. I can chill with this dude all day, his music taste 💯

[@sfundoasmr8501]

Bro he is wild

[@orapelengtawana3287]

This guy knows music. He's in the same level as Zakes. He's a perfectionist.

[@ellishaindobo1794]

I hope i will be alive for that Blackmotion reunion. This episode has classic written all over it.🤩🤩🤩

[@user-wx9co8fp9o]

You will be alive❤❤

[@tembelabee]

Whenever I see this guy, I just hear "Ke Jele Ke Jele" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-wb9ed9mg4v]

I don't know which interview you were watching but he never spoke ill of anyone,the only jealous here is you

[@tembelabee]

@@user-wb9ed9mg4v 😂😂😂 You clearly missed it. It's okay. ❤️

[@Swaelee_ZA]

​@@user-wb9ed9mg4vit's from an old interview 😅

[@Mosala1990]

😂😂😂😂😂😂same here

[@TshamanoThomo]

@@tembelabeeflew straight over him 😂😂😂

[@grfico_]

Proudly Pretorian ✊. Music knowledge was impeccable

[@sicelodesi842]

I really like how he explained the Black Motion issue and how DJ zintle wasnt involved .

[@deejaytwitch_]

Thabo is a true music genius! 💚

[@kedibonethatelo9809]

Very ey😮

[@gurusawa6517]

Bruh... It's baffling!

[@tembelabee]

It's amazing, this is what I miss so much from musicians, them actually knowing their music history. He's amazing.

[@deejaytwitch_]

@@tembelabee He is well informed about music

[@phindilentuli8263]

Oh, I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Smallz took me back to my high school days.. Barcadi was a thing back then. The fact that I grew up in Soshanguve, I can relate to everything he's saying. He just put a smile on my face. Reminiscing on the good old days 😌 😊. I pray that one day, things work out between him and Morda. We miss the original black motion duo.

[@mphoblackstone3773]

Thabo Smol is genius and a music library for sure already watched 3 times and the fact that he didn't trash talk anyone and gave everyone their flowers deservedly says a lot about him he LOOOOOOVES BLACK MOTION!!! And music I understand why he is saving the brand.

[@lindokuhlegumede6527]

Bro code is on another level to this brother!! He’s not speaking ill of his brother even though they ain’t seeing with one eye. Much respect to you Thabo 🙏🏽

[@mo-theeyhussle5580]

Macg is so excited😂😂 you can def see that they're friends in real life

[@sanelen_]

He's like a Lil kid seeing his idol. It's nice😊

[@diddy_mini]

But he once spoke ill of Thabos new craft. .he's not true friend bt traitor. .Now he behave as if they are friends

[@jayfme3570]

He said he didn't feel the music when he was in the studio while they were recording, but later when the music was released, he admitted that it slapped. They are real friends, Mac is just too honest for his own good and almost everything is content 😂. @@diddy_mini

[@GefteMachivene17]

​@@diddy_miniMacG is an honest friend. A real friend is honest about how they feel. If you surrounded by "Yes Men" then you got fake friends who just wanna benefit from you

[@keystv1961]

@@diddy_mini he doesnt suck dick , he is honest about the music....he said the music is pap at the time...

[@kabelo532]

I wish we had pop up pictures at the bottom when Thabo mention these guys from ko Kasi. Majita don't get enough flowers. This is a way to thank them and show appreciation so we can recognize them as well

[@bontlemnguni2430]

Totally agree especially being from Soshanguve… I recognise a lot of these names just don’t know the faces

[@hunadilentswana6962]

And they normally do it with well known…

[@blaqbee03]

​@@hunadilentswana6962that's because they get the pictures from social media. What if most of these people are very private

[@KatMug]

This is the first time I’ve seen Sol listening to someone so intently / not much talking and them sitting so close to an interviewee 😅 like they are about to sit on his lap

[@siyabongatebogo5709]

It's that music talk ❤

[@ThandiShabalala]

😂😂

[@siyabongakhumalo6510]

Fr Jimmy 😂😂😂

[@ShawdyMongie]

😂😂literally…

[@zeefeliti1765]

😂

[@mimi.4]

Kore you can litterally see his face light up whenever he mentions mörda❤. Will never forget the performance black motion gave us eBiblos back in 2022 The drums lorrrdd!!!!!

[@jasticemanzini570]

Wow Thabo Smol thank you for fighting for Black motion brand , may you continue producing spirtual songs.

[@bonolomakgatadeluent3150]

Bongani is talented but love the lime light and the fame packs Thabo is also talented and respects the business behind the lime and fame

[@NomsLoots]

This is incorrect. Bongani just getting attention because of Zinhle but yena self isn’t like obsessed with it 🥹

[@mologadi-acceptedinthebelo2923]

🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@africanalientt]

Well put

[@KimmyR12]

I couldn't have said it better. Thabo loves the craft as it is, he doesn't care much about the fame and what people think of him outside of his craft. And I knew I will always support him.

[@Shibe_Aphane]

Bongani can be many things but lime light and fame, is not one of them. Poor guy doesn't even want to appear on his wife's reality show, even after she tried to trick him into. Yho!!

[@ThembaAgriSibiya]

The one thing that i have learnt in this organic interview is that PTA is the home of music and musicians in South Africa,. Thanks Thabo for the interview.

[@officialinsirktsa]

You can tell Thabo misses Murda man.😢 I pray y'all to be together again.

[@leboganglebese1038]

I’m from Sosha, and used to travel to school by taxi and I remember this time when we used to hear new music in taxis.

[@DomanNdou]

MacG knows how to get people to spill the beans..

[@gurusawa6517]

It's a peculiar skill he has

[@tshifhiwamunyai418]

Your a good chiller

[@UMLAZIKAZI]

Skilled

[@mabatusekonyela2848]

This interview was so necessary 🙌🏾 . Thabo nna kea o rata shame.❤ Great personality. Musical genius

[@khapsVEVO]

After Shebeshxt this is one the most Organic interviews you've had,Smol Is a Real One👌🏿

[@village-champion4432]

Ema pele, Thus is another level

[@deej8038]

Thts way too different levels bro hau🙄

[@allysibiya]

The love on Thabo’s face 🥲🥹

[@LOATE83]

Di mo gatile tse tala.

[@Jackson11326]

@@LOATE83😂😂

[@godmodeforexmasters148]

I always meet Thabo Smalls at Panorama Engen Garage, very cool guy, I like this guy.

[@MoAfrika-Afrika]

"Not real musicians are as famous as the realest" Smol. This was a killer interview, I was so shocked by this interview. Thabo is a genius, I was so surprised! I liked how he never criticized Morda when they expected him to. What a great soul he is! He spoke so well on Morda. I'm actually one of those who understand where Maphorisa comes from. It has always been like that it is just Phori, like Mac said he used township lingo. Backroom studios work like that, even Major companies used to be like that! If it's in my computer it's mine, those are unwritten Laws of the industry. I like the foundation idea. At the end we need to gather all the drums and fill up FNB Stadium and we'll get the lights to do the show. I'm a slightly older guy than Thabo and got the same spirit, I love drums with all my heart. I'm a rhythm person, DJ'd a bit and played a lot of drums in my life.

[@daclem121]

This is the best interview in months....really represented 012 fully.

[@nkululekomabaso1629]

Thabo is passionate about music

[@lockdownhouse6308]

Can we give Dr Moruti his flowers 🎉😢 “swollen legs” my all time fav ❤️📍

[@da_cafeSA]

The Real Music Doctor ❤️👊🏿

[@ondelaamandamrwebi4294]

Thabo is a humble pure soul, music genius, spiritually grounded ❤❤❤

[@eddymakua2175]

BLACK MOTION IS BIGGER THAN THE BOTH OF THEM. They owe us a reunion!!

[@papamamntwapi7649]

Wow this was one for the books... don't remember the last time I enjoyed an interview like this🔥🔥🔥

[@simonboyane1140]

💯. I just wanted to see the first few minutes with and intention to watch later, but I ended up watching the whole interview 😅

[@ArthurKgosietsileSalomane]

This interview is giving me goosebumps, Ten83 Problem child

[@vsc_ww]

Mfethu House Afrika days 😭 mfethu just mentioning Da Capo I was like yah South Afrika needs these type of conversations. Back when music was standard 7-10mins

[@kabelomaepa5160]

​@vsc_ww bro I still have legala laka meetsing

[@reotshepilekwenane5980]

😢😢problem Child is a goat, middle school days we had la Deep school we would listen to the bros, that track kwenzenjani 😭😭

[@reotshepilekwenane5980]

Mr Ten83, Problem Child Thabo reminds me of my middle school days, bumping that Kwenzenjani 😢🔥🔥

[@bakangmatabane711]

Guys did you hear what he said about how they had shut him down? That he was threat

[@zodumoxhavulani7289]

It’s how Mac loves Thabo for me🥹🥰the smile sana

[@xabisomkonde9687]

You can also tell they go way back.

[@asandapercyvaltshabalala2611]

He knows his stuff ❤when he said Barcadi was from Mamelodi 🎉

[@user-pb5rg3dd3c]

MAC G is good shame!!💯

[@Swaelee_ZA]

This interview really showed how mutual is thabo smol unlike murda, never spoke ill about your brother no matter what

[@pearlita2137]

If I could have one wish come true, it would be to spend a day with Thabo . He is beyond genius 🎤🇧🇼

[@ditopanchachi4876]

This year McG doesn't allow booze to get the better out of him, he has been so amazing and keep it up my brucade, we are hearing leading, probing, divergence and inference questions at a go.

[@tsepom455]

Rainbow is also my favourite Black Motion song. 😊

[@vsc_ww]

….that song crossed over so perfectly. Young or Old black or blue that song touched you. Those lyrics were so infatuating 😩

[@thevillagemayor392]

This is the kind of friend of the show we want to hear from.....Smallz took me back to my Soshanguve days. Pretorians really love music and socials. This episode gave me so much of Music Nostalgia.

[@sneemmaculate7278]

I met Thabo Smol at a SALGA conference in JHB last year for the first time, he was booked to perform with Problem Child, what an amazing gent!! I've never met a respectful & humble celebrity like him. May God bless him.

[@thabangramonyane6616]

first time to hear this guy in an interview, im blown away

[@nkululekomabaso1629]

Thabo is an amazing storyteller, 😮❤

[@SurvivingGirl88]

He's a Legend

[@greatafricanone]

watching for the umpteenth time

[@Shibe_Aphane]

This was perfect episode. Loved it. Regarding the split, I think their biggest fallout was doing things without informing eachother and having assumptions about eachother, is what caused the actual split. For e.g. Apparently, (according to Mörda) he said that Thabo Smol, asked to take break from international gigs, and he said "maybe" the travelling were taking a toll on Thabo Smol's mental health. Now, Thabo Smol explains it, as perhaps he was no longer what Mörda's would prefer them to be(as Black Motion)bcs he is not into Luxury Designers. Their break up is so heartbreaking. And I wish they could get back together, even as brothers who make music together and not as a duo it's fine.

[@mocaturealdarkness891]

i say black motion should come back together we miss u guys

[@rendanikeenenmudau]

This was my favourite for 2024 so far pure gold. I love how they were schooling macg about the phori situation he likes acting clueless about how the music business works shout out to smol.

[@keolebogilesylviamene142]

Sol o thutse... o rile tuuuuu😂😊

[@rendanikeenenmudau]

@@keolebogilesylviamene142 he's fascinated

[@nthabisengmabelmotaung2708]

MacG and Sol You seem to be having a lot of fun with Thabosmol; this podcast is incredible-it's so complex and well-paced that everyone is watching.

[@tshiamokgaphola3582]

This one goes to the GOAT podcast on the network. No bad words just organic. ❤️❤️💯💯💯

[@thatolekoape8423]

Thabo is a music genius and a very good story teller. Humble t oo🙏

[@QuantumL]

Give Sol his flowers his just the perfect co-host, his knowledge in music is vast but he was able to chill back and let Mac cook as he understood Mac's fascination with this story. Love you both my brothers. I've met Mac and his great but I'm so anxious to meet Sol.

[@sbu116sbu2]

He is a true expert in this field, respect! Very educational I wish there was a doccie of the Black Motion journey.

[@melizikalala]

Thabo breaths music! Such a cool guy ❤️ thanks to the podcast we got to know this amazing guy! Oh and damn he’s a good story teller!

[@yofavuncle6126]

This episode went from 37k to 39k right infront of my eyes

[@tebogonkosi8390]

Got mad love for this brother and his craft, bless him and his foundation 🔥

[@daynedabeatmaker1623]

Black Motion - It's You (feat Miss P) CLASSIC😭😭🔥

[@yandie_z]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@momelezisifumba820]

Do you know the name of Lana del Rey song that inspired "it's you" to be made?

[@vilemuntu5068]

All time favourite reminds me of varsity days ❤❤❤❤

[@zandy130]

Let's give Mac his💐💐💐he knows how to milk important answers that are hard to come out and switch the topic immediately to give the guest time to breathe then bring another hectic question 👌👌 aaahh man beautiful interview 👏👏thanks Thabo for coming through much🫶🫶

[@melraphadu8689]

I don't MacG had anything to do with milking Thabo to spilling anything, the guy came with an open mind and ready to talk about everything.

[@Maxnyanawakhona]

Thabo is spiritual and I love that abt him. Together with Morda they are a bad ass combo. I'm just glad there's no bad blood between them. Beautiful show guys it felt like I'm having a convo with my boys so natural and informative .

[@tianntshuxeko8404]

This episode worth a repeat ❤this guy he got experience in this music industry

[@fikani100]

This guy is a musical genius, speaks a whole lot of sense.

[@TlhaloMmaps]

My Dad used to play Sony Stitt, Juke Ellington, and Herb Ellis during my upbringing. I miss those days ❤

[@nonkululekom6173]

Mine too. I relate so much! Ke goletse Di K Soshanguve! Good times I tell you ❤

[@TheBlaqMac]

From back when Morder and Smol were Black motion you'd tell from their interviews who was the most musically knowledgeable,The Guy knows his Craft!! I actually see an actor in Him as well....

[@MelloBelloPhotoStudio]

Im so shocked because i always thought Morda was the guy behind all production

[@TheBlaqMac]

@@MelloBelloPhotoStudio thought the same way until this other radio interview back in the day,but he was definitely the Beyonce in and outside studio

[@londekamemela6340]

@@TheBlaqMacwhat happen to him being Beyonce of the group , where is the music . On the other side Morda is doing great . He got 2 banger albums. Featured on 4 big songs horns in sun , yes god , Margaret , yoba yoba. He did remix for Purple movie. He did remix for Ruin by Usher

[@RealManKev]

@@londekamemela6340lol what you fail to understand is he’s not alone on all the mentioned songs, even on production he’s collaborating with Thakzin, i’m not saying he’s not talented but just wanted to enlighten you if you didn’t know

[@londekamemela6340]

@@RealManKev I know Black Motion also collaborated with Osaze but their music is not ayoba

[@letswalo9326]

Thank you for keeping Black Motion in motion, I still vibe to Rainbow even now. 🎵

[@nandinkosi4506]

Wow the love of Music,this guy,I'm falling more & more inlove with music.#Native spiritual music ❤

[@Nothin320]

I honestly think he is being so polite and careful on his answers about the break up situation coz he still "WANTS AND WISHES" for a black motion reunion .. so if he speaks the truth and lets everything out , then he would have destroyed all the chances of black motion ever getting back together .. He even gave Bongs a chance to do his thing "Growth" on the side but asked him to still continue with black motion ( with him ) .. But "pillow" talk got Bongs so messed up he wasnt having it ... but if he remembers the first look he got from Bongs the first time they met , then he will get all his answers .. Bongs believes he is greater than Thabo and Black motion .. so all he needed was "parafin" from pillow talks then it was done ..Bongs basically clang on to Thabo coz he knew from day one that he Thabo had something special that could help him take off then when Zinhle came into the picture , he saw her as the stepping stone for his next level meaning he doesnt need Thabo anymore .With that being said , Bongs is a dick .

[@blaqbee03]

Well said 👏

[@TM-tm2bm]

That is what I felt as well.

[@bakangmatabane711]

10/10

[@arnoldmutemeri925]

It's the last sentence that did it for me.😅😅😅😂😂😂

[@dylanmosehla3285]

Don't forget to become members Chillers. That is your contribution to the community and society at large.

[@litviraltrendz]

my admiration of Thabo just grew 10 folds, talking about creating generational legacy through music brand, big ups

[@pulesoga7681]

What an interview ,Thabo Smol is a gifted and humble creator. Thanks Mac and the team ❤

[@yourplumberonduty3994]

Thabo smols is Pretoria and Pretoria is him...!! He love soshanguve n Pretoria so well. His loyalty is from heart... .love his narrative. ❤ Big up t-man smols

[@MDSolutionsRSA]

Once he mentioned Nina Simone-Baltimore I knew this guy loves music

[@missvee6850]

He breathes music.. he is a genius, the love he has for music❤❤❤❤ and the respect he has for everyone ❤❤❤

[@ThatoKhumaloTK]

Didn't think I would enjoy this interview but Thabo's knowledge and passion about music is palatable. What a gent 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@badishimzashimza9279]

A moment of silence to all the people who couldn’t understand Thabo Smols.

[@thabsilechamane3774]

😂😂😂😂

[@Sandile4488]

Ey kunzima😂

[@thamikhumalo5867]

Kuthi angikhale😢

[@thabangledimo763]

😂😂😂

[@amandankosi3780]

Ukhuluma isiyangikwishisha yin ?

[@sfisosambo8217]

The man behind the music. A musical genius....an encyclopedia of music. Now we understand every element, every sound in Black Motion. This was a Masterclass

[@0921Sengani]

I got a feeling that the other guy fuelling the split was Oscar Mbo (Gucci, fashion)from the way he's speaking it

[@obakengmnguni5]

100% right

[@TM-tm2bm]

Why do you think so?

[@MthulisiPatrick]

i remember us having this conversation last year when Black Motion pulled thru to the UK... RE TikTok songs and playing abroad... thank you for being true

[@patienceramawa632]

Its nice to hear smollz, he is so knowledgeable ❤

[@ventalesmedia1966]

Morda is gonna be in tears again watching this episode

[@youfeltit]

No one and i mean absolutely no one speaks about Madala Kunene , he definitely knows his music

[@mulalomutswana]

Thabo Smol episode, we deserve a part 2. What a perfect storyteller. 🤞🤞🤞

[@MelloBelloPhotoStudio]

The love is real between Morda and Smol,i feel always respect them for "set me free" record

[@nellyburu7322]

What a wholesome interview! I'm not even half-way through but I don't want it to end.🤗

[@greatafricanone]

watching it in different times of the day

[@siyabulelasono5357]

First time i hear this guy talk damn he such a nice story teller he's calm and cool i love that may his ancestors bless him 🙌🙌👏

[@nkululekomabaso1629]

Thank you for this interview. #HandsOffNaledi

[@wiseguymagagane7232]

😂😂😂😂

[@geminique7182]

Fire 🔥 interview, I love it Thabo Smol ke story teller I salute him

[@dubearmaestro]

Thabo is aligned with the universe … okuhle nomusa kuyamlamdela 🙏

[@khwezizingitwa5521]

Best interview this one deserves 2m + views so much wisdom yet taking us in memory lane I’ve witnessed the 2 from all the TUT freshers and events to who they are today hoping they reunite you can tell from his eyes when he speaks of murdah so much respect and love for him

[@execulture]

The podcast has met their match here😂😂Thabo was dodging those questions

[@vsc_ww]

He doesn’t want to trend because I mean? Anything you say on this pod escalates on Social Media