Episode 9: Running up a V8Supercar Engine

These Racing engines aren't designed to sit around for years and years, they are designed to be used. It's critically important to keep running the engines every 3-4 months. Join us as we run up PE 041 for a routine run up!
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[@LsMaloo]

That throttle response is unreal,I love it nice work Jack.

[@dons1932]

Super super super light flywheel! If I remember the minimum weight for category is 2kg or something. They are incredibly light and let the engines rev up super snappy.

[@weldmachine]

@@dons1932 I am sure the Flywheel is Super Light. But the response from the engine is due to many other factors ? To Many to list, LOL. Definitely a Great video to watch for sure.

[@trixnhoez2964]

I have a feeling everything in this engine from the pistons, pins, rings, rods, crank etc would be pretty light compared to your typical street/strip engine.

[@jjjjjj9284]

The 8 throttle body setup and intake trumpet design will have alot to do with the way it revs plus with solid roller cams they love to rev like anything plus correct me if im wrong but didn't the engines back then, they didn't have a minimum weight amount for the rotating assembly etc

[@nickmaguire4914]

I love that a $400k car has a broom holding up the bonnet!

[@Tony-112]

LoL🤣🤣

[@colinl9018]

'The Larry Broom'. Patent pending. Scientifically weighted and designed in the back shed out at the farm.

[@colinstewart1432]

Keeping it Real. Perkins style 😎

[@F14-talktomegoose]

@@colinl9018 and its been fully homolgated

[@theveeman]

That sound never gets old.

[@sfcralogan]

Never!

[@frazerguest2864]

You can keep your Beethoven, a V8 sounds a lot better.

[@DarcyCrumb]

Turn on closed captions at 8.17. Music

[@MAte925]

If ever get a greenie having a go at you about having a v8 ; just start one up and rev it !😡😃

[@Fujifilmable]

Come on Jack, seriously, Around the block and test tyre adhesion.

[@davidgeremia3882]

Jack, to think you were that little kids in tears when your dad won Bathurst many moons ago. Now you remind me so much of Larry. Love your informative vids. Keep them coming.

[@perkinsengineering]

Haha doesn’t seem that long ago hey! Thanks for the kind words.

[@colinstewart1432]

@@perkinsengineering Do you empty the fuel tank after engine run ups and refuel with fresh fuel before the next one?

[@perkinsengineering]

@@colinstewart1432 yes

[@jimrussell1446]

Jack that sounds very angry so cool

[@silkysixx]

Those blips just make me feel like I'm at the track before first practice. Bloody love it.

[@vokstar]

Really cool vid, do love some ole school engineering, what do we keep the bonnet open with... cut down broom handle.

[@GarthThomson]

Cut down to save weight 😂

[@tayf85]

Sending this video to my wife so she stops complaining about how long my warm up and cool down procedures take.

[@robertcudlipp3426]

As with others who have commented, just loooove that V8 sound. Electric engines may pump out power, but have zero soul.

[@colinstewart1432]

Also picture an electric car Bathurst. Joyless prospect eh?

[@kenem1946]

Thanks, Jack. I have a copy of the bonnet stay which holds up the boot lid on my 1974 Jaguar XJ6 🤣

[@badonkadonkskidz]

Are you tempted to take it up the road to grab some Macca’s for the team?

[@perkinsengineering]

No, the front bar would scrape everywhere

[@71DJL]

very cool, although I'm more interested in what appears to be a VL Grp A under the car cover in the background........ :)

[@perkinsengineering]

No VL group A’s currently in the shed unfortunately

[@jeffwhite9001]

Quite surprised how easily it starts and how smoothly it idles, thought it would be a lot rougher than that.

[@perkinsengineering]

This one is tuned pretty good. If you don’t prime the fuel properly and it’s cold it can be a bit rough on start up. The 1993 car on Autronic ECU will be Mint

[@rodb3166]

I'll give you $5000 for 10 laps,not in one of your collector cars,just any V8 supercar

[@dantolo817]

Awesome insight jack loving the videos mate

[@robvanderkroft6515]

Wicked video. Cool to see the dash set up and the Larry tower

[@realaussiemale567]

Will never that kind of engine noise & exhaust note from an electric motor!

[@stephenhaddon7061]

There is no sound like a v8. THANK YOU.

[@deanehill9730]

Thanks Jack. Great to see one of your dads cars looking and sounding just like it should.

[@glensgraphix]

Great to see how a touring car is prep'd for starting. I had heard about the process but it was good to see how it is actually done. Thanks.

[@vincentpoole7588]

JP. Thanks for vid' of starting process ! Is there an intention of selling any of the fleet of racing cars to the general public, as noticed an ex. Brock Sierra was just recently shown back in England, U.K. ? V.

[@change_your_oil_regularly4287]

The response between throttle and rev gain is insane. Very surprising just how responsive it is. I've driven a few angry cars but nothing with response like that.

[@DaveMcLaughlin]

I used to disable the ignition and crank the engine over until I got oil pressure and then enable the igniton to fire it up when I had the car in storage over the winter months. Love the sound of that V8 .

[@perkinsengineering]

Yes that’s what many people still do, however it’s nicer to have oil pressure through the engine before turning it over!

[@rolly4x4]

Honestly, it’s not as loud as I thought it would be in an enclosed workshop

[@CRFLAus]

Video takes away a lot of everything unfortunately.

[@antonstammo1875]

Awesome!!! Real race cars..

[@xr6woggo]

That was the quickest 9.5 minutes ever, love your vids Jack and the sound of that v8 is the best. 👍

[@AdventureMotoEnduro]

Always sticks in my mine when i hear the name Perkins ,,you're dad saying after inspecting his 304ci race engine after being flogged around the Mt all day that the bearings were like new could be reused ,now that's engineering skills

[@sharp_tooter]

seeing the injectors pumping fuel straight into the trumpets was very cool, i don't think i ever appreciated that's how it was done

[@Tony-112]

I replayed that bit about five times!

[@matt.ja90]

Great job Jack. I'm a Ford man thru & thru but seeing beautiful examples of ex racecars like this is fantastic. I figured the engines would be very responsive but wow this really indicates how twitchy the throttle really is! I'm new to the channel - keep the content comin! Cheers!

[@perkinsengineering]

Cheers Matt

[@PaulRobinsonRacing]

Managed to get like #11

[@deanculhane1]

awesome vid Jack so very interesting

[@jonnothetrucker]

Perkins is castrol

[@markpace2823]

As James May says, procedures procedures

[@donkinzett3961]

Jack that's a high tech bonnet support ha ha

[@F14-talktomegoose]

doesnt sound real lumpy , I reckon the old group C must have had more freedoms with cam ?

[@perkinsengineering]

Yeah this was just before control cam came in

[@ianmacdougall1320]

Mother's Milk

[@paddy2661]

I watched this video few days back my wife hasn't had a good night sleep since , with my v8 engine reving noises lol , that's gold.

[@perkinsengineering]

Hahaha

[@vigilante351]

The biggest thing I noticed here, the engine was super still on-startup and revving. Balance a 50c piece on its side on the engine the whole time!

[@Dazm229]

Great video, thanks Jack. Nice to see you restoring these very much loved cars of our Holden Touring Cars history. I notice HRT Car 22 in the background. Do you own this car too? Great sounding engine. I can listen to that all day. Awesome V8.

[@perkinsengineering]

Yes we do, it’s just received an engine and also had a run up. Check our Facebook out for details

[@fulltimber]

Great job Jack This kind of video never gets old I would listen to 20 minute videos of just this car go up and down through the rev range Good stuff mate , hope you find more of Larry’s cars to put back to former glory

[@perkinsengineering]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks

[@stickdeath1980]

@5:08 turn it up :D

[@ParkersReef]

Good to see Throttle position sensors are still shit :P

[@davidbutterfield2949]

Thanks Jack, very interesting 👍🏻🇦🇺

[@davida877]

Jack thanks great video - great sound and wow super responsive.

[@niallobrien4736]

I'm free to assist for the next one. That short revving of the engine is such a Supercar trademark sound. Just love it!!!!! Thanks Jack

[@russeltyson8782]

Didn't realise that you had so much technology back then

[@nathanvary7482]

Awesome as usual jack! I’ve watched Supercars for 25 years and love all the technical stuff but I never ever knew all that goes into running an engine up, how long does it take to get all the temps and pressures up??

[@perkinsengineering]

Thanks! Depends a bit on starting temps, ambient conditions, anywhere from 6 to 10mins.

[@southaussiegarbo2054]

@@perkinsengineering do you really rebuild an engine after every race weekend is over?

[@nine8three310]

That was as interesting as hell! That VY gives me some amazing memories of the early 2000’s.

[@markhill7901]

Awesome video. Thanks for educating us in keeping these classics alive.

[@jobe0505]

Oooooh, that sound. Need that in a ring tone

[@joejoe8472]

This is exactly the same procedure as I go through when I take the family out for a spin in the TB 48. 🏎😉 Massive fan of Larry growing up and I’m loving these vids, keep em coming 👍🏻

[@mathewleskie2355]

How good does it sound 🥵

[@waynepraetz]

What fuel is in the cars ?

[@perkinsengineering]

BP Ultimate 98

[@codeyjames7208]

Spotto the vn door handle 😮😮😁😁 great video yet again

[@charlienewbery4157]

thanks Jack that was awesome 🏁🏁🏁

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Having run a dry sumped Chev Sports Sedan is used to crank oil pressure up by hand. Turn the pump for about 30 seconds. Then to start crank the engine until oil pressure shows about 60 lbs then turn the ignition on. Using synthetic I never had oiling issues. This a 12-1 358 engine.

[@PK075]

Great video Jack. 👍💪🇦🇺

[@perkinsengineering]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@rocksreynolds3642]

Very informative film there, great to hear the car revving there. How many cars did you retain that go through this procedure Jack?

[@perkinsengineering]

Well we only retained one car, but the others we are restoring will use similar, if not the same procedure.

[@nswhorse]

Which year did this car race originally?

[@perkinsengineering]

2003

[@adamthompson6669]

The true lion king 🦁. Had lion king song in my head when she roared to life. Now time for LP to take it out 😉

[@deanbiddle2904]

I could listen to that Engine all day

[@kevinhamling1963]

Its just music.

[@Brendan.Wheatley]

Is the Aerodyne getting a resto as well? Great informative video Jack! Newly subscribed! Cheers for sharing...

[@everydaygolfer6483]

Nice work Jack....a Beast.....Thanks again for the Camo Hat...All Good Brother !

[@Blackbirdrod81]

Nice work Jack. Thank you for sharing. In recent years when I have gone to events, I have noticed teams using the “Kettle” to pre heat the water in the radiator. I didn’t see it in this video, is it not as necessary on the older Supercars or just not period correct? Looking forward to the next video.

[@perkinsengineering]

Some teams use a water heater yes, we would often use a fan heater on the radiator to heat up the water in the core of the radiator.

[@shadowvella5719]

what an absolute sexy sound! Keep these Vids coming jack, they are great to watch.

[@michaelbeattie6953]

This series is really neat. It's great seeing these cars up close and personal. Are they injectors on the outside of the trumpets @5:37 ?

[@timjohnun4297]

I noticed that too, and am interested in the difference between having them shoot straight down the trumpet, compared to being mounted in the side of the manifold

[@trippnoutmotorsport3164]

Yes they are

[@mattxr6t]

Jack, what was the gear and belt on the steering column for?

[@vokstar]

Saw that and wondered the same thing, wonder if it's not to measure the steering input/angle?

[@perkinsengineering]

It’s for the steering potentiometer so the data ca record steering wheel movement from the driver 👍

[@mattxr6t]

@@perkinsengineering That was standard in the 90's cars? But didn't even think of that. Cheers!

[@paulryan9871]

I was under the impression Jack that a lot of the cars had warm water pushed through the cooling system to help with cold start? engine fires up and runs very well even cold??

[@perkinsengineering]

The fancy ones do! Nothing PE did. Correct it all comes down to tuning/mapping.

[@weldmachine]

Great to see a Very Positive view, with the Thumbs Up for this video. ( i won't mention the unnecessary people who choose to be negative ???? ) I Love the Broom Stick to hold up the bonnet, LOL. Best not to have to much technology ? Because we are already envious enough watching this video. Definitely a great series of videos worth Subscribing to. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@perkinsengineering]

Yeah seems to be someone disliking every video, only one person! Thanks for the support

[@weldmachine]

@@perkinsengineering Always 1 bad apple in the bunch 🙄 Just started watching your channel. Looking forward to catching up on your other videos in the series. Thanks for your reply. All the best with the videos. Peter 👍

[@0419-t3y]

My factory is next door to a F** gym who play doof doof music all day for people to get fit. I'd pay double the rent to be next door to rev rev all day, THAT's MY KIND OF MUSIC, the play list would be V8, turbo V8, revving V8, some nice tunes.

[@stevenkirk2563]

Is that an SB2 engine?

[@perkinsengineering]

Negative, “Holden Motorsport Engine” or sometimes known as an Aurora

[@geoffarnold8483]

Out of interest Jack how long do you run the engine for. I ask because I know that you can get moisture in the engine crank case from humidity etc and Im told it should be run long enough to dry it out to prevent condensation on lobes and bores. Your thought appreciated. Cheers, Geoff.

[@perkinsengineering]

I just run it up to 65-70 degrees everytime, record the oil temperature and ensure the trends are consistent 👍

[@geoffarnold8483]

@@perkinsengineering Thanks Jack, just curious as I do a similar thing with my old ride now while in lock down. Cheers. Great vids keep em coming.

[@hearliam]

Larry's in the smoko room having his cup of tea, (cough, cough) turn that f#$ing thing off, lol, but seriously that was awesome.

[@ickus74m90]

Thanks mate, really enjoy these videos. Great job.

[@andrewelson540]

Jack do you run these out of fuel when you store them or leave fuel in the tank and fuel rail. Is is different with e85 as compared to pump fuel. Cheers, thanks for the videos

[@perkinsengineering]

No we drain the fuel if the cars are going to sit around. This car runs BP ultimate 98, e85 can be aggressive on fuel lines and bladders. We would run a e85 engine on petrol after to clean all ethanol out of system.

[@andrewelson540]

@@perkinsengineering thanks for the reply

[@graemeforssberg3986]

Is the Supercars still racing. I thought with the demise of Ford and Holden manufacturing in OZ the series was dead!

[@onedayatatime4232]

Thank you for sharing this....

[@dannywalters2365]

Pity all cars are not as well maintained. Also this is the stuff the world don't need. Seriously like Gretel said shame on you. World cup. Professional sports. Cars.racing petrol even electric. We really do have to change. As a Christian I have inside knowledge. And know a guy on the inside. Written in black and white is the plan. Keep it quite suss out a book called THE BIBLE

[@reverenddanger]

I can’t believe how cool it was running. My Vk would be running at 90 in 3minutes🤣 mind you, my engine builder was shit

[@davidbarnsley8486]

Thanks jack fantastic 😍😍😍👍👍

[@pewtopiousjohnstone3546]

first

[@panagiotis1519]

Holden. Too good. Shame they killed it off.

[@james22939]

Let the engine roar

[@The888Redlich]

Thank you Jack, very interesting, these cars really are works of art worth preserving (and driving occasionally)

[@Diamondsintherubble]

Is the engine originating from a road-going car? I’d like to know if the cylinder heads are designed by an aftermarket brand “off the shelf” or 100% proprietary design? By the looks of the wide valve covers, it looks similar to a nascar cylinder head

[@05hatchie]

Forget bugatti, ferrari and Mclaren . This holden has been my dream car for years

[@tracktorque7206]

Loved the clip on the procedure to start a v8 supercar

[@perkinsengineering]

Cheers

[@anthonyglover3828]

This is awesome - thanks, Jack. Reckon we could get a clip of the exhaust on start up?

[@mrsmith000111]

Great vids Larry and Jack!!!! Thanks!!!

[@bradleywicenciak8005]

Jack's a legend , like his old man .I believe Larry drove racing cars once ?

[@MJMAC]

God that sounds sweet

[@tomreid15]

Enjoyed that video with headphones on a full volume. Great sound! What about the walkinshaw car? What stage are you up to with that?

[@perkinsengineering]

Just about ready to hit the track 👍👍

[@tomreid15]

@@perkinsengineering hope it goes well. What track?

[@tonyregan4547]

Thanks Jack. That was awesome to watch and see the pride you guys have.

[@jcmate1692]

love the clips jack should be far more clips like this on youtube showing people basic car maintenance . We know why we dont leave these checks up to women. just kidding I was heading up to Echuca vic with a female friend and said your windscreen is a bit dirty so she gave the washers a few hits nothing came out by the sound of the washer pump screaming i said you must be out of washer fluid it shouldn't be she replied i only had it serviced 6 month ago, dont you check it that's what's the services are for she replied i've never looked under the bonnet i dont even know how to open it the bonnet she said lol but these days i think you get that from more bloke's than women. 6 young guys stranded on the side of the road with a puncher after 40 min they somehow worked out how to use the jack and after crushing the sill because they placed the jack in the wrong spot they repositioned the jack under the floor pan and causing damage to that in the finish they had to call RACV because they couldn't undo the wheel nuts because the wheel was off the ground and spinning round each time they started to undo the nuts not one of those uni students thought to let the jack back down or apply the brake true story

[@wanneroo7106]

Pretty cool video, thanks

[@grahamserle7930]

Thanks Jack, it's always great to turn into your channel.

[@goodvibesgoodvibes-mr8bs]

Great video Jack, behind the scenes is always interesting to watch, the things you can do with a cordless drill.

[@jonesy2418]

Where's Larry.