Epson 5040UB/6040UB vs Optoma UHD65 vs JVC LX-UH1 Projector Comparison

Our first triple 4K HDR Comparison! We compare the Epson 5040UB, / 6040UB, the Optoma UHD65 and JVC LX-UH1.
All 3 of our Blog Posts are up!
- Black Levels & Contrast: bit.ly/2OHcb3b
- Color & 4K Detail and Resolution: bit.ly/2vGZJI8
- 4K HDR Performance, Conclusions, & Recommendations: bit.ly/2M2l0XC
See our additional blog posts and videos:
www.tvspecialists.com/project...

[@uscfroadie]

All of these look stunning for their price. It's hard to pick a bad one, it seems. Thanks for posting.

[@ms10000]

Best projector review video on youtube!! Great job!! Keep it up. Thanks!

[@jpbonadio]

Great comparison as always. Very professional and informative. Thanks for the video. Can't wait for the UHZ65 vs JVC 790 video.

[@marcelgongora]

I really enjoyed your video. This is the kind of comparison that always I'm expecting to see

[@stevejeffery4857]

I own the Epson. I did a lot of research/comparison before I bought and have no regrets. 4K movies look very impressive compared to my old Ben Q 1080p. Another selling point for me was 3D as I own a lot of 3D movies and I occaisionally enjoy watching on the big screen. Excellent review. Well done, thorough and very informative. Keep'em coming.

[@Tvspecialists]

Thank you! We will!

[@grahamnumber7123]

Hi Steve, I am looking to replace my Sanyo PLVZ700 (12 years old but what hifi best buy) I think it's dead/something has given up in the power supply and at the time the more expensive Panasonic PTAe something 1000 only beat it in black levels but costing significantly more. 12 years later I've been really happy with the sanyo and will try to fix it as a spare. Does the Epson do 3d? because while I am a gamer and have a VR rig the old AV receiver that sky/bluray etc switch through is not 4K capable. BUT in the living room the projector is above me and my PC behind the sofa where I sit. SO 3D would be an added bonus. Active glasses or passive cheaper ones? any problems? reliability? I had problems with Epson printers in the past so are wary of their business model on a long term basis of quality and reliability in a buy today/throw away tomorrow world. An y advice appreciated as you did a lot of research.

[@marcusrios8517]

Was very interested in the Epson shown here but reviews on it's reliability were terrible so I bought the Optoma UHD65. Absolutely love it.

[@harryk.3595]

Epson all the way! even their low end projectors nowadays beat other high end brands hands down. Epson are true world leaders in projections . Great comparison , thank you.

[@DavidK442]

Love your projector comparison videos. Always objective and informative. I will add my name to the list of those who would REALLY like to see the Epson 5040/6040 head to head against the entry level JVC D-ILA projector. Pitting the Epson against the JVC LX-UH1 is an apples to oranges comparison that is not useful for most of us. Thank you very much for all the effort that goes into these comparison videos.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Thank you, we have it down. As you may know by know the JVC DLA-X790 is now $3,999 so $2,000 off! The Epson is not is the class of blacks that the JVC is, only with the iris which lowers the brightness as well so contrast is not really in the same league as the JVC. Hope to show this in the future or if in SLC area come in and we can do a side by side.

[@emphila4760]

WOW! Excellent work, THANK YOU please keep up with lastest model.

[@333russian]

thank you for this amazing comparison - still actual for 2020

[@bamlin52]

For me the Epsom. I believe it has lens memory shift . For me very useful. The Optoma not that easy to set up. Flexibility is very important to have. I have an Epsom love it. Only 1080p still very good. Great interesting video thank you.

[@graczmisiek4131]

I'm very happy after switching from JVC X5000 to EH-TW9300. That's for my living room and a grey screen. Perfect for gaming too. Lacks HDR in 4k at 60Hz. That's fixed in 9400 but it costs 1000 more.

[@abdulallawheeb9793]

Epson projector 5040ub amazing

[@Quetzalcoatl0]

I really like the epson, colour and black levels, especially without iris/bulb dimming. But that detail in the optoma, damn. It's really hard to pick. I just wish for a true UHD, laser projectors with OLED blacks ^_^ and decent brightness.

[@jasonswartzbaugh3925]

Awwww yes the holy trinity for projectors. Laser powered, Native 4K, and OLED Blacks. This is truly bleeding edge. Unfortunately they still need some soak time. Give it some time say five years or less and you'll see even better projectors hit the market. Love my 1080p Optoma. However going 4K so a FPD and HDR it'll be for me. Until the projector technology can catch up.

[@john-yf2vj]

25:31 Optoma is blurry and Epson is much sharper and cleaner

[@pulDag]

@@jasonswartzbaugh3925 4 years in and nothing except pricing comes up. Really nothing has changed.

[@svtcontour]

I'm still on an old Epson 5025UB which is 1080P and once calibrated and set up, it still blows my mind every time I watch a movie. Fantastic.

[@aneeshprasobhan]

is the lamp doing ok ?

[@svtcontour]

@@aneeshprasobhan So far so good but my theater is small so I run the lamp in ECO mode otherwise its damn bright.

[@user-dm4gs1ig7r]

I have an Epson 5350 1080p love it. I always enjoy using it. 4k is good but iam still happy with 1080p.

[@DonLanierPearlProAudio]

Great Job on the comparison and features,

[@SolarAbyss]

Was very close to getting the Epson 5010. Glad I found this, I think I'm going to wait for the next generation. Want the detail of the Optoma with the Contrast of the 5040UB

[@jojobananadragon]

Hi,please can you tell me how the Epson ehTw9400ub compares in sharpness to the optoma uhd65?

[@salehkambijo1849]

I see the reviewers complained power supply issues in epson 5040 projectors do you experience any problems with the power?

[@bryanp4827]

I'm a little disappointed with the JVC's black level, but being their first dlp, for sure things will improve immensely in only a short amount of time...

[@ninomazzini1]

Good Tutorial Thank´s for sharing, Do You Have a similar analisis of the Panasonic PT AE8000U?

[@tedbollinger3306]

Unfortunately we do not, currently we are only doing 4K capable projectors and ones that are currently in production and available for sale new.

[@bs11100010]

I was thinking of getting the uhd51a or hc4000 and getting a high contrast screen. Would the black levels compete with the 5040 with the right screen?

[@tedbollinger3306]

Yes, absolutely with the right screen like a slate .8 or possibly a slate 1.2 used in a very low light or dark theater environment.

[@jamesw4445]

Which one is more suitable for university classroom projector? I want 3840 x 2160 resolution to give students better classroom experience. It seems Optoma is better in terms of resolution but I am not sure about it's quality. Projectors in classroom are often used 10 hours a day and five days a week throughout a year. Thanks.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Most of our University accounts prefer the the Optoma 4K500 Professional series with 5,000 lumens for classroom use. Unless it is for a film class and used in a theater setting most professors like the lights on 4K500 at just under $5,200 special registered educational cost (call us) list is $10,099. Not as good as blacks but unless you watch in the dark you will not see the difference only the huge brightness difference. (2,000 lumens)

[@lubricatedgoat]

Great review. I'll be getting the Optoma based on this. One gripe: there are so many ads I almost killed the vid. I could run a network wide ad blocker, but that might lol some revenue. Just a couple of ads would be ok.

[@Tvspecialists]

How many ads were shown to you? It shouldn't be showing many...

[@lubricatedgoat]

@@Tvspecialists 4-5 if I recall. Seemed like a constant interruption. Maybe it's a KZbin thing. I've been noticing more ads on older content recently.

[@AJOHNNYA]

Excellent info. Thanks for your effort.

[@assintec]

Sr. Tem comparação HC4040 and HC 5040?

[@LenLen2u]

I'd love to see a comparison with the Epson 4010. Any chance of getting ahold of one for review?

[@tedbollinger3306]

Thanks for asking, we are currently in evaluation of a couple of new comparisons and then the new JVC's and Sony and then we'll see where Epson is.

[@GetawaysandGuitars]

I have the Optoma UHD51, I reviewed it as well (its the European model of the 51a) I would like to know your feelings of the JVC v the 51a. I'd love to see a shoot out between these as i'm sure many others would too. $1000 separates them, is the JVC really that much better given your previous glowing review?

[@tedbollinger3306]

We hope to do this comparison in the coming months. My initial thought is that it will be close but it seemed to me that the lens on the Optoma was a little sharper but the blacks (if the iris is on) is a little better than the Optoma if it is a low level scene. thanks for the suggestion.

[@oscarkorlowsky4938]

The UHD51 and the UHD51a are two different projectors the UHD51a has Alexa built in and the UHD51 does not, I'm not sure if you guys in Europe have Amazon Alexa or not, maybe that's why the UHD51a isn't available there

[@GetawaysandGuitars]

Yeah we have the Alexa spy bot here too. The 51a comes out here shortly but I didn't want that crap. Other than that it's the same projector!

[@oscarkorlowsky4938]

@@GetawaysandGuitars hahaha classic European, I was in Europe two years ago backpacking... I didn't like it tho it was too traditional

[@GetawaysandGuitars]

My sisters and mother have Alexa. I don't see the need.

[@djwizart]

By this video I think that epson has the best colours very good contrast and the best black level, Jvc has very good colours and better detail from epson but not so good contrast (and not mention the out boarder of the 0.47 chip) and at last Optoma has the best detail, very good contrast but it’s colour on this video are way too off (and I don’t understand how they all calibrated and have so big differences when you say that are so close in the colour performance) and the light output is the worst of them all! I was about to buy the Optoma but I want to check the Jvc with my own eyes with some movies I have for reference to be sure! Thank you for the video!

[@tedbollinger3306]

The JVC is slightly brighter but we we expose the images we have to expose for the brightest in this case the JVC as otherwise they look like the highlights are blown out and they are not. The down side is that it makes the Optoma (or less bright projectors) look darker and less impressive. In actual live viewing they are much closer than it appears in stills or videos. The color is a whole other issue to film and that is why we have gone to showing the actual color charts. Please check back to this link in a few days and the final HDR section with color and max brightness is shown, I think you will like the results: www.tvspecialists.com/jvc-lx-uh1-vs-epson-5040ub-vs-optoma-uhd65-2/

[@ald71]

I have the Epson and I couldn't be happier.

[@reyesmontemayor6998]

ald71 did the epson still have faulty power supplies

[@RAMtrails]

@@reyesmontemayor6998 I've heard it's fixed

[@mr.blackhawk142]

medication ALWAYS makes Juan happier! :P

[@johandeen6096]

What is your experience with colour convergence on the Epson? I already had 2 units of the 6050UB (that's the best Epson has atm). But the colour convergence is very bad. This means white is never really white but actually a bit bluish or purple. You can also clearly see it in this video. For me this resulted in an unsharp picture. I could never align all three colours perfectly. So there is always a little haze around the pixel. This is noticeable when watching movies, the picture just looks not sharp enough. I'm going for the UHD65 for the being the most detailed. The Epson does not seem like the best choice for me.

[@tedbollinger3306]

So their is actually two things going on with color fringing in a projected image from a 3 chip system. One is the alignment of the three chips, never perfect even with pixel shift adjustments, and two, the color aberation of the lens itself. Even on a single chip DLP with no alignment issues there is still some color fringing due to lens color aberration. The best lens we have seen is on the BenQ HT9060 but unfortunately not the best blacks on that projector and very expensive..

[@steventomeo4723]

Im torn not sure which way to go I want to have a 130inch to 140inch 16:9 screen my room is around 4.5m wide by 4m deep I likr bright and over saturated colour and i just dont know which one of these 3 to get My room is dark enough i can closr doors What would you recommend im use to a 75inch sony 4k tv

[@Tvspecialists]

Always best to give us a call [ 801 486-5757] and discuss. If not possible, then from what you've described the Epson would be the brightest solution but not the highest detail. So it would depend on viewing distance.

[@steventomeo4723]

@@Tvspecialists hi I thought JVC was brightest I like sitting close to screen i was just worried the uhd65 wouldbt get me 140inch from 4m back Why do they say optoma is hardest to set up

[@user-ug9mj7iz5y]

what and why is better: 1) take a projector with 3m screen and look at the screen on distance 3m 2) take a TV with 1.5m(65) and look at the tv on distance 1.5m ?

[@Tvspecialists]

Not a good comparison because of the change that occurs to the human eye in a dark room. The eye becomes as much as 10,000 to 1,0000 times more sensitive (after about 15 to 20 minutes) in a dark environment due to the chemical change (Rhodopsin) in the eye. Anything above 35 to 40 fc in a dark room actually hurts the eye after they have made the adjustment. If you want to see this effect let your eyes get sensitive for at least 10-15 minutes then in the dark room look at a bright LCD panel without giving time for the eyes to readjust to brightness-it looks way to bright to be comfortable. Projectors can be a much more involving and immersive experience than flat panels in a lit room.

[@reptilexcq2]

What is the input lag for Epson 5040UB?

[@Tvspecialists]

The input lag of the Epson 5040UB is around 28ms with the 4K enhancement on. With the 4K enhancement off, the input lag varies depending on the Frame Interpolation (FI) settings. It ranges between 29ms with FI off, to 68ms for Low and 104ms for Normal or High FI. The 5040 is a pretty fast projector when the FI is off. One of the faster projectors with 4K enhancement.

[@samlachance1]

Would you consider testing the HU80KA from LG? It has a laser light engine, but the smaller 0.47" chipset. I've seen a number of reviews on it, but they all focus on the "portability" or "smart tv" aspect, and I can't find a single webpage or video that compares it against ANY of the other DLP projectors in its price range. Even ProjectorCentral failed to provide any objective measurements regarding black levels and contrast, even though they liked it enough to give it the editor's choice award. Thanks for the rest of these videos; they're extremely helpful.

[@tedbollinger3306]

We would love to and also the new UHD55 that Optoma introduced at CEDIA as well at $1,699 which is pure LED and a rated output of 1500 lumens. LG has not been very good on the consumer side for samples yet but we will keep trying. Thank you for the suggestion.

[@JoeTheGadgetMan]

Thanks Nice review ..well explained.

[@PauloBarretto]

I live in Brazil and the Epson 5040ub cost here 175% more than the US price, other words I can easy buy a car for that price. Unfortunately I don't have that amount of money to buy neither one. I will keep dreaming to win the lottery one day in this life.

[@Leoniums100]

I am looking to purchase my 1st projector and i am really lost. Not sure if i will have same quality as my 4K 2yo Samsung tv. I am looking for Optoma UHD51, Optoma UHD60, Epson 9300 or 9400. Or.. something else? Your opinion? For 100" max screen. Thank you in advance.

[@tedbollinger3306]

We sell both Epson and Optoma projectors. The answer to your question really depends upon your particular application, If you will watch with some light on and mostly regular TV and occasionally a blu-ray movie I would say Epson. If you want a more Theater like experience and mostly 4K UHD movies I would go Optoma due to the higher detail and contrast ratios without the use of an iris. In Optoma, the UHD52 is good, the UHD65 better and the UHD60 if you also will watch sometimes with some lights on but you sacrifice some color to get the brightness.

[@Leoniums100]

@@tedbollinger3306 Thank you for your reply. And what do you suggest from epson? Best vfm?

[@tedbollinger3306]

Just waiting to see the new 5050 and 6050, should be even better for some light conditions, however no 1080 panel can equal the true 4K detail and clarity.

[@bryanp4827]

Hey Ted, in your honest opinion I real world testing, are the blacks on the Epson really that much better than the Optoma?

[@Tvspecialists]

Ted's retired now - but I'll pass this question on and see if he'll respond!

[@Tvspecialists]

Just heard back from him and here's what he said "yes, if you engage the iris on the Epson if was definitely better, however, without the iris they are very close""

[@shartm]

Please, make JVC DLA-X590R vs Epson 5040UB/6040UB Projector Comparison!

[@tedbollinger3306]

Depending on if the new JVC models to be shown at CEDIA replace the X series or are in addition to we may be able to eventually do that, thank you for the request.

[@melodicplayer]

I have had the Optoma UHD60 and 51A in my home for several days. I also saw the UHD65 and the JVC UH1 in side by side scene comparisons with real content at a local retailer who had both on display. The JVC was, in my opinion visibly superior in clarity, detail and most notably colour. It appeared equal or better to the UHD65 in blacks. Watching the opening scene of “Avatar” on 1080p Blu Ray, where the space ship is contrasted against the black sky. On the JVC, the Black star field looked the same as on the UHD65, but the contrast of the white space ship and colours on the space ship was clearly superior on the JVC. Both were using the Sony UBP X800 player. Watching the JVC UH1 in my home, with both SDR Blu Ray, 4K HDR, on a 120” White Screen (1.0 gain), is simply spectacular! Watching “Interstellar” on Blu Ray was stunning! The richness of colour, the amount of detail, the depth of picture, the depth of blacks and contrast on the JVC, is stunning! CGI animation is ridiculously good! I saw the 5040 on display at a local retailer showing “Guardians Of The Galaxy, Vol 2”, I was not impressed at all. In my opinion, the JVC is clearly the superior product in every meaningful way. 1st: LOOK at the images in brightest mode. -13:10. The UHD65 is hideous, which means it’s rated lumen output spec is useless. The Epson is visibly overblown in white sky area. While the JVC is exceptionally bright yet fully resolved, nothing overblown! “The ONLY one that would be really useable would be the JVC”...indeed! LOOK at the brick colour and detail on right of image at 15:20!. The Optoma is full, bland. The Epson is again washed out, while the JVC has visibly superior colour, contrast, detail even though it’s specs say it is less bright. 2nd: LOOK at the dark room scene at 22:228 and see how the JVC’s blacks are completely convincing alongside the Optoma and Epson with real content, BUT the contrast and detail is clearly superior on the JVC. The person sitting on the chair is barely visible on the Epson 5040, and best visible on the JVC. The detail in the fireplace, floor, chair, and person is clearly superior on the JVC. When they claim the detail and contrast is better on the UHD65, I’m shaking my head in disbelief. LOOK at the amount of detail visible in the person on the couch and the couch! The JVC is clearly brighter and by comparison, the UHD65 seems to be crushing details in the couch and person on it. 3rd: The resolved fine detail at 21:13 is clearly superior on the UHD65, thanks to its larger 0.66” DLP chipset. However, what we are NOT seeing is how much better the same detail could look on the JVC with “Super resolution” or sharpness increased. Meaning, IF The JVC which has clearly been superior in every way thus far, can narrow the gap is fine resolution by some tweaking, why would anyone want the UHD65 over the JVC? 4th: LOOK at the dark room scenes at 22:04 on. The suggestion that the JVC doesn’t have the detail, contrast or sharpness of the UHD65, is not accurate, IMO. The man on the couch, the couch itself, the fireplace, the chair - all are more clearly visible on the JVC than the Optoma. Contrast must by definition include the brightest areas to the darkest. The JVC clearly has the brightest area and stands toe to toe in blacks. Thus, its contrast is in fact superior. 5th: LOOK at the skin tone of the woman at 25:36 on. The JVC is clearly without question more natural while the UHD65 is too heavily reddish. While the sky shows more colours on the UHD65 than the JVC, the skin tones are clearly superior on the JVC. CONCLUSION: While the UHD65 does appear to have the edge when it comes to resolved detail, in every other meaningful way - contrast, colour, blacks, brightness -hence overall image quality, the JVC wins.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Thank you for all your detailed observations. The JVC is a very good projector and surprized us in light output and was clearly brighter than the UHD65 in almost all scenes. Detail however is a different story. You should know that Avatar was mastered in 2K, so even though it has been up- scaled to 4K it is not the best material to make detail comparisons. The UHD is very clearly more detailed than either the JVC or Epson. As you can see in the blog of this comparison, which is in its final stages and will be posted on our website , the .66" DLP is superior to the .47" DLP. If you look at the multiburst you will see that no amount of sharpening or super resolution will add details it cannot process. As far as blacks, as you can see on the "Near Black" test as soon as the JVC iris opens to allow highlights to come through the better contrast of the UHD65 and .66 chip does show through if both projectors are calibrated. Do you know if the ones you saw had been calibrated? They are close but the UHD65 does have the edge on both contrast and blacks.

[@melodicplayer]

Ted Bollinger, thanks for the reply. So if you were purchasing, would you buy the Optoma over the JVC? Does the 0.66 chipset add that much difference? Neither model I saw on display had been calibrated. But I have the option of returning it and purchasing the UHD65 if I choose. So would that be your honest recommendation?

[@melodicplayer]

I have painstakingly stopped, paused, looked at each image over and over. Especially on the “Greatest Showman” scenes. 26.40 - look again at skin tone and the degree of visible information on Hugh Jackman’s face compared to the UHD65. 27.08 - paused. Colours more vibrant on JVC 27.25 - colours in children’s clothing visibly richer, bolder, brighter on JVC. 27:31 - Colours visibly brighter, richer, better on JVC. Detail in clothing of audience, and the material on elephant’s head all are visibly better on JVC. UHD65 is simply too dark. Look at difference in the tent - brightness, colour, detail. The fire is more brilliant in the rings on the JVC, the whites are brighter, the tent in the upper left - if you pause on it, ha s’more brightness, visible detail and colour. Explosion visibly brighter, hence more HDR than the UHD65. IF colour is as important to HDR as resolution, then in my opinion, the JVC is clearly the winner. And in real 4K moving content, not a still photograph as you used earlier, the JVC shows no visible lack of detail. In fact, since it’s brightness and colours are so much better, it looks more detailed not less. Just my honest opinion. Thanks for your helpful reviews and comments.

[@tedbollinger3306]

As you have found it was very interesting as on some scenes the JVC clearly looked better as far as color and brightness goes and on others the Epson or Optoma. The written comparison will shed more light on this as it should be published completely later this week. these projectors are so close (except for detail) that it was really which scene looked better on which projector on a scene by scene basis. The written comparison with high res stills will be here: www.tvspecialists.com/jvc-lx-uh1-vs-epson-5040ub-vs-optoma-uhd65/ Par 1 is up now.

[@diazea4294]

melodicplayer In the end the JVC and Epson chips are physically incapable of creating the same level of detail as the total number of pixels projected on the screen are less and the pixels which are projected are larger. In addition, the physical chips themselves on both the JVC and Epson have less pixels - so the information is simply not there. That's why these side by side comparisons with test patterns are so interesting and revealing. However, based on actual video, I myself am opting for the JVC regardless, as you did. Overall picture quality is a combination of everything: color quality, brightness, contrast, and yes resolution. But resolution is probably the least important of the characteristics for an excellent picture (assuming they are all reasonably close in resolution). We have all seen cheap 4k TVs blown away by older high end 1080p TVs in picture quality. So in some scenes we could easily perceive more detail in the JVC because of its superior blacks and colors which may be washed out on Optoma even though its physically displaying more pixels on the screen. My feeling is the JVC looked better overall. Combine that with a HUGE ISSUE nobody is mentioning with these new lower cost DLP 4k projectors. They all (expect JVC) have extremely limited installation flexibility. I'm spoiled by my old Epson 1080UB. I couldn't even get Optoma to work in my rear shelf theater setup due to its almost non-existent vertical shift. If its not ceiling mounted it has to be LOWER than the bottom of your screen (as told to me by Optoma tech support). JVC finally offers reasonable vertical lens shift.

[@fabiosecci4634]

where can I find the resolution test file you used? Thanks

[@tedbollinger3306]

The 4K test signal is from a Marshal V-SG4K-HDI test signal generator.

[@fabiosecci4634]

@@tedbollinger3306 thanks to the answer, I couldn't understand if the finer grid was 1 pixel to 1 pixel. I seem to have understood that the UHD65 is the most defined, am I right?

[@oriehi_raphael_paul]

Amazing... When i saw it was a 30mins video,i was like,naah,but now I'm so glad i watched it all the way... I'm still sort of torn between the UHD65 and the 5040 though... To me they're just exactly what Samsung and Apple do with their camera's picture quality... Both are great,only with two different adaptations,one is soft and true to life while the other adds up some artificial vibrancy which punches images up a bit... So i think the best buy would vary from person to person.

[@zimvader25]

If youre susceptible to the rainbow affect, no Optima projector is even close to being an option. It's like they purposely slow down their color wheel. And if you want 4k AND hdr, epson isn't an option since it has the ancient neutered hdmi chipset and nothing works with that. you need 18gps for full 4k hdr. So that's out, as well. Jvc are absolutely amazing in dark rooms but pretty much worthless with any kind of ambient light, for 5x the cost of the others so, i wouldnt recommend any of these. Better of with a benq, or waiting for epson to release the 5050 with upgraded hdmi chipset some time this month.

[@moretwocome21]

Epson is just on another level! Got the 4010 4k UHD

[@DrAdd1999]

I’m getting the Epson

[@James-xg5rh]

Yep me too

[@jamessisoutham1466]

I got it before this show

[@James-xg5rh]

Actually I think I’m getting the UHZ65 now

[@bryanp4827]

@@James-xg5rh GOOD CHOICE!👍

[@James-xg5rh]

Chill Bill I actually got the JVC NX5. Amazing...

[@diazea4294]

Can we just get a full review of JVC LX-UH1? I appreciate comparisons but would just like a full review. There doesn't seem to be ANY online yet for some reason.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Possibly in the future, right now we are mainly focused on projector comparisons but hopefully you will see some reviews appearing shortly.

[@fedejuan1745]

hello, which has better quality of hdr ?? Does the epson have jitter? thank you, I congratulate you for the video

[@Tvspecialists]

I'd recommend reading our blog post, specifically the part on the HDR comparison. The link was posted in the comments above, but here it is again: bit.ly/2M2l0XC

[@fedejuan1745]

@@Tvspecialists thanks, is dolby vision compatible?

[@tarunprakashsingh]

Can you compare uhd65 vs uhz65

[@Tvspecialists]

We did this back in November: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2WqeGyImd2MqKM

[@jmp6943]

IF HDR is important to you, then the JVC has to be number 1. The reasons are obvious, it can produce simultaneously brighter whites than either the Epson or the Optoma and as stated in their on-line 3 part review, virtually indistinguishable blacks from the Epson or the Optoma. Truest blacks are what can be observed in connection with bright highlights. I suspect many of those who say the Epson is best have not actually seen the JVC in person, with real content. OR, if they have seen it on display, have nor been able to spend quality time with various content where they can tweak the picture to their own preference. I have the JVC in my home and it is simply spectacular! NO ONE would come into my theatre room, see a dark scene with great blacks and say “Those blacks don’t look impressive”, or “There is not enough contrast”. The picture quality is stunning....for those who think that the very slight edge the Optoma may have in finest detail resolution die of its larger DLP chip, all I can say is resolution is arguably the LEAST important aspect in picture quality. And when ALL factors are considered, the JVC is the clear winner.

[@georgepopescu1327]

from my perspective JVS is the only one here that brings up the detail in the shadows, both optoma and Epson tend to have darker shadows

[@tedbollinger3306]

The JVC did a very good job, however, because the JVC was the brightest and we needed to expose for the brightest image so we did not blow out the details, the camera tend to hide some of the low level or dark details in the other two due to their exposure. In person they both did a great job of shadow details, just not as bright. thanks for watching.

[@mr.blackhawk142]

That would be jvC, right Spanky?

[@macroblockingone]

Grass looks greener on the Epson on the other two Dlp it looks dark green , Dlp single chip can never match 3 LCD technology of Epson

[@CaptnNate]

Hello Ted. At the end, you mentioned gaming. And said the Epson would be best for that. Wish you would’ve touched on that a bit more. What makes the Epson best for gaming? A measurement of lag time?

[@tedbollinger3306]

Correct, for serious gaming a very low lag time is desired and in this case Epson has the better or faster response with the lowest log time. For non-competitive gaming any of these would be fine.

[@CaptnNate]

Ted Bollinger thanks a lot!

[@user-ug9mj7iz5y]

What screen do you use here?

[@Tvspecialists]

We use a Stewart StudioTek Reference 130 screen.

[@christochristov9867]

Epson it's amazing...

[@SethPortland]

Great review. Too bad only the Epson is LCD. I had a DLP projector and I would see rainbows whenever I look from one side of the screen to the other. It was very off-putting and sometimes would make me nauseous. 3LCD projectors are unfortunately the only ones that my eyes will tolerate. I wish it were as sharp as the Optima though. The loss in detail means that the only real reason to upgrade from 1080p is for the HDR.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Two things you may want to be aware of. One, only some people are able to see and be bothered by the rainbow effects and two, with the color wheel used in the UHD65 which is pure RGB very few even those who are sensitive are bothered by in in these new RGB color wheel type DLP projectors. You should see one first and if still sensitive you should consider the 3 LCD type by Sony, Epson and JVC.

[@TheaterAtReference]

1. Optoma .Best in detail and Best in ANSI contrast 2. JVC Best in natural color palette 3. Epson Best in Dynamic contrast and Best in brightness in a useable color palette

[@vamoalla9]

Do any of them have lens memory?

[@tedbollinger3306]

Yes, the Epson 5040UB and 6040UB have a motorized lens with memory.

[@vamoalla9]

@@tedbollinger3306 Thanks. That's the deal breaker for me. So if the great advantage for the 5040 is black levels and JVC projectors are known for the same, what is the advantage of the JVC vs the Epson?

[@tedbollinger3306]

The JVC has over 8 million pixels, the Epson has 4 million. The Epson has lens memory the JVC doe not. It all depends on your needs and application.

[@cptairwolf]

If only Epson's 5050 had a true 4k LCD it would be untouchable at that price.

[@jpprovost64]

so jvc for 2500 canadien its very good

[@juliaallen7149]

This projector gets the job done pretty well. kzbin.infoUgkxS9P8zTOcmQg-hH0QeUi3dspOLyYgQ6dH Bear in mind it's a mini projector but all things considered the picture quality is pretty good. The attached photo is of the projector projecting onto my white closet doors. I still have not messed with the settings but I can't wait for our first family movie night on a larger scale. If you have issues with volume not working with your firestick, go into volume settings and you will find your solution there.

[@melodicplayer]

In Part III of the on-line Review, On TV Specialists webpage, under HDR 4K we see the following comment “We were especially impressed with how the JVC handled HDR. Even though it is rated less bright than the Optoma and Epson, it held its own and even looked best on some scenes when it comes to dynamic range and HDR color.” ... www.tvspecialists.com/jvc-lx-uh1-vs-epson-5040ub-vs-optoma-uhd65-3/ BAM! This of course, confirms what I saw in store and see in my home. The JVC really has that “pop” and “wow” factor to the image. In the following still shots from “The Greatest Showman” mastered in 4K, the following are visibly evident: I. On the first image of Hugh Jackman in front of the red curtain: 1. The colours are all visibly brighter, hence the “pop”. The red in the curtain, the brilliant white of his shirt. 2. Look closely at the lapel on his TUX. The JVC shows the lighter grey of the lapel, as does the Epson. But the UHD65 cannot resolve it the same way and crushes that detail by rendering it more black. 3. Look at the gradations of colour in his pant legs trousers. The JVC clearly, visibly shows the creases, and the subtle nuances of shades far better than the UHD65 does, which again seems to crush the details and render a more solid black. 4. The amount of fine detail in the sparkles on the curtain behind Hugh Jackman upon close inspection does not appear to be any more detailed on the UHD65 than the JVC...and yet, IF the UHD65 truly is that “spectacular” in super fine detail, why isn’t it evident in the fine detail of the sparkles in the curtain? 5. The overall Black level is virtually indistinguishable between the JVC and UHD65 in this shot, BUT the JVC is performing better in white, colour, shadow detail and is equal in terms of fine detail present in the scene. I’m viewing these images on my IPad 2, so unless the in person image is visibly different, then what I’m seeing on line, I say again the JVC is viably superior in every way. II. On the TENT scene in the 2nd photo. Interestingly, on this scene, the shadow detail on the ground in front of the tent is more visible on the UHD65, but the overall image by comparison to the Epson and the JVC looks more “washed out”. The image has far more “pop” on both the 5040UB and the LX-UH1. And the depth of the blacks of the JVC are (surprisingly?) far closer on this scene to the “best in class” Epson in this scene the Optoma! The JVC’s image is visibly superior *IF HDR effect is the consideration*, as the contrast between the brightest part of the image, the “pop” and depth of blacks is visibly superior. This again, is precisely what I saw and was WHY I purchased the JVC over the UHD65. On this scene, I’d say the Epson is Best, the JVC is second and the UHD65 is clearly third. III. On the third still shot, look at no close the JVC and the Epson render the colour of the fireplace. And how much brighter it is in the scene. On the UHD65, it is a completely different shade! Fine detail in the Sofa in front on the man on couch is almost identical on all three, but again, the JVC and the Epson render the colour of the sofa very close to each other while the UHD65 has it a visibly different shade. IV. On the fourth picture, look closely at the colours of the flowers. The detail, colour richness of the violet, purple is better in the JVC than the UHD65 and it closer in tone on both the Epson and the JVC than the UHD65. The image is visibly brighter on the JVC. I agree there is more “contrast” on the UHD65 and this is especially evident on the concrete in front of the lady. The texture and colour of the concrete and the visible detail is greater. But this evident edge in detail, has more to do with the tone mapping of the colour I think? Than the ability of the Optoma to actually resolve more detail in the image. So it would depend on what one preferred. If they wanted the brighter image which has clearly brighter colours and highlights and hence more “pop” to the colours, they would choose the JVC or the Epson...both of which are VERY comparable to each other! V. on the fifth still, the woman with the fine beads in her dress. There is no question that the UHD65 renders the detail on her dress best of these three. The beads are more detailed and standout. HOWEVER, look at what is being lost in the image as well! Look at the co,our of the red suit on the man to her front fright. On the UHD65, the colour of his red suit is almost imperceptible, whereas it is stand out on the JVC. So while it seems the UHD65 can resolve SOME details better than the JVC, in SOME section on the image, it cannot do so for the image as a whole. So again, the JVC which has impressive detail in the beads n the dress as well, but because it renders everything else in the scene with visibly better clarity and colour, once again, the JVC shines above the UHD65 when everything in the image is considered. SINCE THE JVC has visibly better “pop” and “wow” in dark scenes with rich colours and bright highlights in the scene, and SINCE there really is no discernible difference in fine detail and SINCE the blacks of the JVC are clearly on par, “toe to toe” with the “best in class Epson” then, I respectfully submit, the discussion is over. The JVC wins over the UHD65 in EVERY area when actual moving content is displayed, and even outperforms when “mastered in 4K” content in used as far as 4K resolution and HDR is concerned. ...I’m jus sayin 😎

[@tedbollinger3306]

It was closer than we expected and did vary on a scene by scene basis as I mentioned. If you do not need or want the extra detail and "pure motion" of the UHD 65 then the JVC is a good choice.

[@jpprovost64]

110 inches the qualite will be very good for all

[@Zaki-pi9kq]

just for the quality of the product and the services. EPSON 10 000x

[@tedbollinger3306]

Epson is an excellent projector and we are a very large Epson dealer. There are those customers however that want to see all the detail that is available from the best 4K HDR discs so there is also a market for those products that put 8 million pixels instead of the 4 million that Epson does. It also depends on your viewing disatance as watching 4K at normal HD distances will not reveal all the detail that is available. Color and contrast however can be seen at most viewing distances.

[@jmp6943]

So, when you look at “Jenny Lind’s” dress in “The Greatest Showman”, which projectors render it more accurately? Are the fancy beads in the dress as dark as the Optoma shows it? Or, in fact closer to the way the JVC and Epson render it? Judge for yourself. Here is a high res still of the dress - 78.media.tumblr.com/da14f08b726c9aa107e83810386f9d35/tumblr_p20260IbYb1tsru2vo1_1280.jpg. In the photo under “Black levels” in the 3 part on-line review, we see a shot of Hugh Jackman jumping out of white smoke. The Optoma does have more contrast in the scene than the JVC or Epson (I thought the Epson has absolutely the “best blacks” though?! Yet, the way the Epson renders the shot is almost identical to the JVC! So HOW can the JVC be rendering the shot with the same degree of clarity as the Epson? And LOOK at what is missing in the shot. In order for the Optima to produce that much contrast in the white smoke, what is LOST in terms of detail, brightness in the image? Look at how much more detail is visible in Jackman’s suit and body on the JVC and the Epson....SINCE the JVC stands toe to toe with the Epson in real content, and is visibly brighter, then the JVC wins!

[@JC-hl3tn]

I dont want gray but blacks...Epson 3LCD and not DLP...IMOP.

[@melodicplayer]

Interestingly, in the written review done by TV Specialists on their website, they make the following observation regarding blacks and contrast in REAL moving content, rather than a static black image. “Overall, on all scenes but the darkest scenes that have no highlights or HDR, you would be very hard-pressed to do a blind viewing test as to which projector is which if they were in separate rooms and you could not see them side by side simultaneously - they are THAT CLOSE in black levels with normal or bright scenes! ” This was exactly my observation in store as well. I noted that the JVC was indeed the brighter image and that it’s blacks and contrast stood “toe to toe” with both the UHD65 ( and Epson I had seen in action at a different local retailer). Since CR is by definition, the difference between the BRIGHTEST part of the image to the darkest, then I think it is obvious, that the JVC has the better contrast ratio since it’s brighness is visibly better and it’s whiltes are more brilliantly white than the Optoma UHD65’s. Thus, it can produce equal levels of black while simultaneously maintaining brighter whites. Now, I’m no Calibrator, merely an enthusiast, but to myself at least, THIS is the knockout blow in this discussion. If a projector is crushing whites so that they are not truly brilliantly white, while it aims for a deeper shade of black, then it makes sense that they can produce a deeper shade of black, because the lens and iris is not moving the same way in both directions so to speak. But to myself, this only magnifies how good the blacks of the JVC really are! Because the JVC DOES produce visibly whiter whites, while it is admitted that in real content with bright highlights and HDR in the scene, all 3 projectors are “that close in black levels with normal or bright scenes”, I think the conclusion is obvious folks, the JVC in point of fact therefore indeed has the best blacks of any DLP Projector and the Epson 5040UB. I’ve read many comments on line where people rave on the blacks of the Epson 5040UB. But truthfully, I’ve never yet seen any one do as an in-depth a job as the TV Specialists do, and I most certainly have not yet personally come across any comment anywhere, where anyone made the same observation about blacks in the context of simultaneous whites and HDR in the scene. THIS is where all discussion about blacks must converge I think...and that is why I rave on the blacks of the JVC LX-UH1 in a 4K sub-$3K DLP Projector....Hey, we are talking about JVC the black level kings right? It makes sense that they would know what they are doing when putting out their first entry into the DLP market...just one man’s reasoned opinion:) FINE DETAIL IN VERY SMALL PARTS OF THE IMAGE: In their on-line blog, they claim that the UHD65 resolves the finest details better than the JVC, even though technically both are putting 8.3 million pixels on the screen. The attribute this to the larger .66” DLP chip in the Optoma to the 2nd Gen 0.47” DLP chip in the JVC. However, they are careful to note that this difference in finest details is only apparent when sitting between 1.5-2 X the screen height away. If you are sitting further than that away from the screen, then this slight edge in super fine detail, dissolves. Ok, fair enough. I’m sitting 18+ feet away from my 120” Screen. So the slight edge in very fine detail they claim is only visible up to a certain distance away, would in my case and anyone else sitting further away than 1.5-2 X the screen height, be irrelevant. And since the JVC LX-UH1 is visibly superior in brightness, colour and blacks as per reasons stated above, then my contention that I purchased the visibly better projector, is thereby established. 🙂

[@tedbollinger3306]

I definitely understand where you are coming from. A couple of things you may also want to consider. When the JVC iris is on its blacks approach or almost equal the Optoma, however that is only on pure or 100% black images. If there are any highlights (see the near black comparisons) the Optoma is significantly better in deep blacks than the JVC. On normal medium to bright scenes they are close but the UHD65 still has the edge not because of its whites but its darker blacks in the scene. (native contrast) As far as the .66 chip, I have concluded it is not the size of the chip as much as it is the resolution of the chip that is giving us the higher detail. (1080 4 way actuator on the JVC vs 2716 X 1528 with a 2 way actuator on the UHD65).

[@melodicplayer]

Ted Bollinger ...in my opinion, having watched this video comparison carefully now several times, as well as my own in home viewing, as I said for me, the slight ad in super fine detail is irrelevant given the distance I sit from my screen. And as far as the blacks being “significantly deeper” on the UHD65? With the exception of the static black image, I do not see what you claim. In all real movie content, the blacks stand toe to toe and the whites are visibly whiter. C’mon, it’s a visibly brighter image, which means the lens is doing two things simultaneously - achieving brighter image with stunning colour and brilliant whites, while maintaining very deep blacks. If the UHD65 produced as bright an image as the JVC, would its blacks be as deep? I think not. Your own statement indicated that both the Epson and Optoma are producing deeper blacks “at the expense of” brighter whites. I think that makes my point. But in the end, as they say “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” ....you clearly have a crush on the Optoma , while I do on the JVC 🙂 Much appreciate your reviews! BTW...if I posted the same comment 3 times on your website, that was not my intent. I wasn’t sure if it was being posted, as I thought it would appear right away .

[@Tvspecialists]

On our website we have to review comments before they are posted. However, there are none that we see to review. What link/page did you try to comment on and when did you try to post?

[@tedbollinger3306]

If you really want to see good contrast I suggest you consider the JVC DLA-X590 which has very good blacks, color, and contrast. It does not have native 4K detail but if you are at a distance where 4K detail is "irrelevant" then it may be your best option and the e-shift 5 is very close to the LX-UH1 detail. Its only a few hundred dollars more than the LX-UH1 and in a whole different class of performance. The DLA chips as implemented by JVC are amazing in doing both great black levels and good contrast in high brightness scenes.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Sorry, the X590 is more than a few hundred more but still, a huge step up in image quality.

[@kennymaster900]

who won ?

[@Tvspecialists]

We don't declare one winner. It really depends on what you will be using it for, your environment, your budget, and what your preferences are. Some of it can be very subjective. This is just to help you have more information to help you decide who the winner is to you.

[@kennymaster900]

@@Tvspecialists thank you for ur reply

[@iris3186]

I like JVC model from these 3 .

[@sddsadsads3627]

JVC LX-UH1 Выигрывает?

[@Tvspecialists]

We purposely don't pick 'winners' because it is very subjective. Our purpose is to show each projector's strengths and weaknesses so you can decide for yourself. However, keep in mind that there are differences seen in person that cannot be seen on the video so it's best to also see a side by side in person.

[@neosmith3633]

The Epson stomps the other two, easily.

[@FatterTony]

How so? Do you say that because you own the Epson? I can't see how anyone can look passed the hideous delay in iris reaction? Optoma has more detail if you're viewing closer up which I like to.

[@tedbollinger3306]

In some cases it all depends on your application and use. Some prefer the Epsons because of the motorized lens and 3D capability and that is something that is not currently available in most of the Optomas.

[@Laserguy2009]

Blurry compared to the Optoma! The Optoma has MUCH better resolution.

[@bryanp4827]

@@FatterTony i agree Tony, i think an iris is fake black...

[@bryanp4827]

@@Laserguy2009 yep, I'm pretty sure you can't beat the clarity and sharpness of th ed Optoma's native 2k chip 👍

[@teolong2631]

EPSON Wins... as long as epson continues to support 3D they will be my favorite and of course they have the best lens shifting technology in my opinion

[@teolong2631]

I know, it's funny to some (you included) but I actually enjoy it and have about 75 3D titles at home.

[@GetawaysandGuitars]

Given the choice between 3D and 4K I would still go for 3D. Now - full 4K in 3D, that would be something else! (glasses free, please)

[@ksingh361]

No one i know watches 3d. Everyone i know hates 3d.....

[@jacquylenoir9097]

J'ai eu un JVC et maintenant un Epson, Heu..., JVC, adieu, j'ai redécouvert la 3D de mes films J'avais un JVC et maintenant un Epson, Heu ..., JVC, au revoir, j'ai redécouvert la 3D de mes films

[@volt8ge]

K Singh I LOVE 3D. Now you know someone :)

[@shaolin95]

A JVC like the rs540 or 640 will run circles around those optoma and Epson toys. They are king on consumer projectors for a reason. Sony comes 2nd. Then epson, optoma and others

[@docwho10th88]

You sound butt hurt

[@Jan1969Mor]

(I’m swedish so sorry for my spelling) Terrible test, you chould have run the Epson in natural mode! Come on, its by far the best mode. The result would have been very different! And you can’t have them side by side because it effects the picture to much.

[@tedbollinger3306]

Actually the "Natural" mode is brighter but then the expanded color gamut is gone. The Epson with the exception of lamp time and 4K detail is a very good projector and deserves the reputation it has gained. throw in a gaming mode, 3D capability, and lens memory and you've got a great projector. This test was designed to show each projectors very best color, detail and contrast capabilites. If just REC709 color is needed the Epson definitely has the brightness advantage as well. Thanks for your comments.

[@banny123456]

Wait a minute, Epson has similar black level with iris off comparing to JVC with iris on? How that's possible. For my, Iris is a totally unusable feature, stupidest thing ever. So Epson is a better choice? Has much better native contrast than JVC?

[@tedbollinger3306]

It all depends on your application, room characteristics and your personal preferences. If watching at more than 1.5 screen height the Epson looks very good and does have excellent sharpness and respectable blacks.

[@shaolin95]

Get an rs540 or 640 used and it will blow away these toys and be cheaper too. Native is way contrast on those is way beyond anyyhing else

[@docwho10th88]

@@shaolin95 Used? LMAO..

[@sypainthy]

optoma all day over this

[@johnnyenconecter2491]

Optoma crushes the competition, the only company that could take on Sony projectors

[@shaolin95]

😭😭😭😭 optoma is a toy. JVC is king of the projectors for consumers followed by Sony. You have a lot to learn

[@flybobbie1449]

Straight off the Epson, the Optima looks look it's being viewed through a dirty window. Even my Optima 151x has a better picture than that. Looks like it's not set up right.

[@jacquylenoir9097]

Plus je vois de tests, plus j'aime mon epson après avoir eu Sony, JVC, bof et ennuis

[@melgibson6331]

Uhd is a scam....they are making bluerays that show only 16-238 of the color spectrum when almost all tvs projectors can read 0-255 of the color spectrum but cant read uhd because its encrypted....the epson is using interlaced tech thats why it can do 3d but not at 4k and is why you can see scan line movement when filmed. Jvc must not have paid microsoft protection money so they dont get the software key to unlock the 0-255 color spectrum held hostage....epson must be getting the full 0-255 code because the interlaced blacks and whites should be less contrasty than the progressive jvc image.

[@tedbollinger3306]

The standard for 8 bit video is natively 16-235 for all Blu-ray and DVD's that is the component video standard. If you set your display for 0-255 (computer RGB standard) you will not get true blacks as they will be cut off at 16 and you will change the directors grey scale intentions. 4K Blu-ray is actually a new 10 bit standard so 4-1019 which allows for the HDR full standard. Hope that helps.

[@bryanp4827]

UHD65 CLEAR WINNER, NO QUESTION!👍👌👍

[@jayk8659]

Talk for normal people not for scientists