Next-gen Akai MPC 3 vs MPC 2 // What’s new and what not to miss!

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@jonmakesbeats
@jonmakesbeats 4 ай бұрын
I think what the MPC needs unironically is to just go all the way and let you plug a computer mouse into the USB slot.
@OtisKanno
@OtisKanno 4 ай бұрын
Yep would be like a modern Roland MV or Open Labs Meko.
@VJFranzK
@VJFranzK 4 ай бұрын
and have an HDMI output to see things larger at home!
@sweetgoose64
@sweetgoose64 4 ай бұрын
I wish they would bring back HDMI out so bad ​@@VJFranzK
@HenningSprang
@HenningSprang 4 ай бұрын
i havent tried this as i dont need it but as far as I know that's possible since quite a while
@loki_music_is
@loki_music_is 4 ай бұрын
Most important is more RAM I think :>
@RandomNoiseMusic
@RandomNoiseMusic 4 ай бұрын
So glad I decided to get a second hand MPC Live 2 recently!! Super excited about this update! 🔥
@ThaBeatBuffet
@ThaBeatBuffet 3 ай бұрын
This video is absolutely the best I’ve seen on MPC 3. In depth, detailed and great quality. Thank you.
@TheInternetIsDeadToMe
@TheInternetIsDeadToMe 4 ай бұрын
As much as I appreciate the quirks of the MPC2 workflow, I personally found so much of it needlessly complicated. To the team that have worked on MPC3, thank you SO much. Yours sincerely Cubase/Logic user.
@WyattLite-n-inn
@WyattLite-n-inn 4 ай бұрын
I’m on Logic Pro for iPad, trying to talk myself out of getting an MPC 61
@ninaszeven6951
@ninaszeven6951 25 күн бұрын
Got the box last week and found that the Audio Units plugin does not offer multi-channel as an option. Just mono, stereo, 5.1. This is a major problem for me, - The VST version works as advertised... The Logic one does not. (Logic does not support VST).. So I guess I'm sending it back.... Unless anyone knows if 3.0 fixes the Audio Unit plugin??
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 4 ай бұрын
I love this company dude. I started with Native Instruments/maschine mikro and was all in since 2011. But they never listen to us or do anything. Got a live 2 in 2020 and it’s just constant updates and progress. AND THEY LISTEN TO US!
@davidlightman9718
@davidlightman9718 4 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. Unfortunate that NI hasn’t been able to release meaningful updates. I know Maschine 3 is coming but their reputation has taken quite a beating from years of neglect.
@leogolive
@leogolive 4 ай бұрын
Same I been using Maschine since 2013 but I bought the MPC X last year and haven’t looked back.
@lartisan6274
@lartisan6274 4 ай бұрын
Maschine 3 is coming since 5 years ? they stop Maschine Studio, Jam, they dont creat new " vst " ( massiv x ) , they just make Expansion business
@streetwaxtv
@streetwaxtv 4 ай бұрын
Exactly
@909Thumper909
@909Thumper909 4 ай бұрын
only took LITERALLY 7 YEARS to give us what they were promising since they first released these in 2017 lol
@michaelberger1276
@michaelberger1276 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, I bought the MPC Live as soon as it came out. And the software that is being developed here is blowing my mind
@qndj6449
@qndj6449 4 ай бұрын
As always, loopop demystifies the adaptation we dread and even makes us curious about which direction our projects shall go using this evolved environment. Thanks, Pal!🤩
@elusivemite
@elusivemite 4 ай бұрын
@@qndj6449 that would be in a straight line. It's all linear now. :)
@canadianmoose2006
@canadianmoose2006 4 ай бұрын
This looks like a massive upgrade and the workflow simplified. Looking forward to the full release
@dgoldstein
@dgoldstein 4 ай бұрын
Well guess the MPC Bible is going to need a lot of updates:)
@Marco-ek8wu
@Marco-ek8wu 4 ай бұрын
haha , yeah I bet he's pulling his hair out over this.
@dagss
@dagss 4 ай бұрын
​@@Marco-ek8wu Andy is closed beta foa a loooong time a lot of stuff is written down already ;)
@palimo3653
@palimo3653 4 ай бұрын
Yup that’s the first thought I had
@Lordxfx
@Lordxfx 4 ай бұрын
Impact on the current workflow seems huge. That annoys me a bit. I do admit, the MPC does look a lot fresher.
@WriteJus
@WriteJus 4 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing 😂
@archaicnoise
@archaicnoise 4 ай бұрын
I bought the first gen MPC Live 7 years ago this month. I genuinely cannot remember the last time I purchased any piece of hardware and had 7 full years worth of software updates to accompany it outside of video game consoles and windows PCs. genuinely one of the best music purchases I've ever made. can't wait to see what the devs cook up next
@tom22333
@tom22333 3 ай бұрын
Amen to that
@sodiumlights
@sodiumlights 4 ай бұрын
About bloody time!
@Aetila
@Aetila 4 ай бұрын
The linear Track View! :-)
@DawlessHouseMusic
@DawlessHouseMusic 4 ай бұрын
That's a lot to take in. The MPC just became a huge standalone production and performance tool now. You could always do a whole track but there is so much streamlined workflow and quality of life improvements like streaming. This makes me want a larger MPC now like the X.
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 4 ай бұрын
Big f🤬g facts💯💯💯
@MwahMwahProductions
@MwahMwahProductions 4 ай бұрын
True. I'm considering trading in my OG Live for the 4GB X now.
@gizzabem
@gizzabem 4 ай бұрын
If i could only fafford the X 😂😭
@scheetmcborsten7977
@scheetmcborsten7977 4 ай бұрын
They delivered and gave me exactly what I wanted- FL Studio in a box.
@elusivemite
@elusivemite 4 ай бұрын
@@scheetmcborsten7977 I'm guessing you didn't use FL studio in its early days. Far closer to the mpc workflow back then. Patterns and blocks were awesome.
@scheetmcborsten7977
@scheetmcborsten7977 4 ай бұрын
@@elusivemite been using FL for nearly 20 years
@mutzbunny
@mutzbunny 4 ай бұрын
this is so true yes you are allowed to call me not dawless when i use the MPC, my goal is it to create music, and not to gatekeep what is dawless or not. generally i am so incredibly happy about what akai is doing with the MPCs. honestly best fucking music tools that you can get nowadays.
@PaulSpades
@PaulSpades 4 ай бұрын
There's fl studio mobile for that. runs on all of your phones and tablets and crap laptops.
@meru_lpz
@meru_lpz 4 ай бұрын
@@elusivemiteI miss the pattern blocks playlist. The new playlist is a clusterfuck, even with the Blocks template. When pattern blocks were killed between FL11 (registry tweak) and FL12, i tried to stick with FL but ultimately i felt so inefficient trying to housekeep the playlist that it forced me to move to Ableton Live (which has a tidier implementation of the clip-based workflow).
@sCealt
@sCealt 4 ай бұрын
YES! Re-arrange FX! Thanks for the video!
@inthefade
@inthefade 4 ай бұрын
They've been promising that on the Force forever lol! I wonder what kind of horrible spaghetti code they were working with that made it so hard to fix.
@sCealt
@sCealt 3 ай бұрын
@@inthefade yeah that's a really basic functionality in any kind of audio application. Even the free Garage Band on my iPhone does it lol
@maciejlegowicz5834
@maciejlegowicz5834 4 ай бұрын
This is mind-blowing for two reasons: 1. it's like a completely new instrument, 2. how the heck are they squeezing out processing power from this rather dated system. Thanks for this video - looking forward to this update, and I'll be carrying on recommending new MPC line instruments to whoever ask
@tamthetamtam
@tamthetamtam 4 ай бұрын
Honestly it looks mostly like visuals and QOL improvements, they’ve already tried to squeeze everything out of the processor with the Fabric plugins. Don’t think this update does a lot more on the surface. Im curious about Stems and disk streaming, that might ask a lot of processing power probably
@RinaldoJonathan
@RinaldoJonathan 4 ай бұрын
with optimized linux build, you can do absolutely unbelievable shit with dated hardware.
@streetwaxtv
@streetwaxtv 4 ай бұрын
It's pretty amazing
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 4 ай бұрын
@@tamthetamtamstems isn’t real time, you have to wait for it to process/extract the stems.
@deejayscharton
@deejayscharton 4 ай бұрын
If you open up the force, mpc live 1/2 or the one, they all have the same system on a board running them.
@GoldToni-z2t
@GoldToni-z2t 4 ай бұрын
fantastic update - thank you AKAI !!
@hvhvgitaar
@hvhvgitaar 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for a slick and thorough review. Great work as always! I think this is an impressive update for the MPC OS. For me, the unavailability of an arrangement view always kept me from finally moving from Maschine to MPC but now AKAI have added it, along with other great improvements. MPC Key 37 with the MPC 3 OS now looks close to perfect. This is going to hurt Native Instruments, but they only have themselves to blame by stopping investment in the Maschine platform.
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
My pleasure! Still no clip launching/scene like Maschine or Force, but indeed Akai seems to be investing a lot here
@Ast3rixMusic
@Ast3rixMusic 4 ай бұрын
Love it!! Always can count on LoopOp to dig right on in and give up all the details. Wow drum track explode!!! I sure hope this migrates to the force.
@powermix24
@powermix24 4 ай бұрын
Finally!! Thanks Loopop for reviewing this new operating system
@BinkyWomack
@BinkyWomack 3 ай бұрын
Great Video doing the side by side reference made it alot easier to relate what I dont know with what I already know
@jamiefayefenton
@jamiefayefenton 4 ай бұрын
The MPC 3 changes the file format of MPC projects from XML to Json. This means it is not backward compatible. It also opens the door for being able to share projects with the Akai Force, which has been using the new file format since it came out. I will have to see if the Force MPC 3 stuff is working now or if its looming in the future.
@christian_blass
@christian_blass 4 ай бұрын
The Force can read the old MPC formats. I switched from the MPC to the Force 6 month ago. And I can access all my old MPC projects. I think the new MPC 3.0 will read the old MPC formats too.
@jamiefayefenton
@jamiefayefenton 4 ай бұрын
@@christian_blass I just tried loading a Force project into MPC 3, and it dropped the clip matrix entries but kept the arrangements. I think they are holding off on the clip matrix feature until later.
@weakend
@weakend 4 ай бұрын
XML -> JSON is pretty trivial, conversion-wise. They're just essentially different markup languages (data structures is probably more correct). If Akai didn't include backwards compatibility yet, I'd wager they'll include it soon (or a community member would write a tool for this).
@christian_blass
@christian_blass 4 ай бұрын
@@jamiefayefenton There was never a path form the Force to the MPC. The Force projects are quite different. But old MPC files will load on the new MPC Software in future. Trust me.
@jamiefayefenton
@jamiefayefenton 4 ай бұрын
@@christian_blass MPC 2 files have been loading onto the Force for some time now, and onto MPC 3 now as well. Force to MPC3 works also, but you can't get at the clip matrix entries (beyond the arrangement clips).
@aunmaspobre
@aunmaspobre 2 ай бұрын
Great video and great update! My only need so far is to get the clip mode back, it s absolutly fundamental for live performace based on improvisation, which is my case. Thanks to loopop for all your wonderful videos
@365OTG
@365OTG 4 ай бұрын
So essentially the merged the Force with the MPC line.... Thats dope. I just hope they dont forget the Force!
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 4 ай бұрын
It's getting close, but I don't see anything about MPC having clips yet. It has patterns ("sequences"), but that's not the same thing.
@chosenonebeats
@chosenonebeats 4 ай бұрын
The what? That thing is as good as dead now
@Th3rdFloor
@Th3rdFloor 4 ай бұрын
@@chosenonebeats,,,,I'm afraid to say that you are grossly mistaken as there is a major update for the Force in which is about to drop imminently!!,,,watch this space!!!!
@Th3rdFloor
@Th3rdFloor 4 ай бұрын
they haven't,,,watch this space!!
@365OTG
@365OTG 4 ай бұрын
@@ToyKeeperMPC has clips mode bro
@genaugmen4505
@genaugmen4505 Ай бұрын
Best video by far for going over a multitude of changes between mpc2 and mpc3, as opposed to most, which focus in on one or two items that concern the content creator the most. I got referred here by Jon Makes Beats, another guy I just recently came across, and i have to say his recommendation for your channel was spot on, although he believes you are the one that most would have come across first. Both of you are the shit! I may be late to the scene, but I'm so glad that I came across you two.
@loopop
@loopop Ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know and do you happen to remember which video he said that on? I'd love to thank him :)
@genaugmen4505
@genaugmen4505 Ай бұрын
@@loopop i believe "Best Gear for Beginner Beatmakers." I really try to get across to my kids how lucky they are to have easy access to so much knowledge about everything nowadays, even music production and detailed hardware reviews. I look forward to checking out more of your vids.
@lukewarm5356
@lukewarm5356 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, some massive improvements here
@omegajackson
@omegajackson 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the years of help. From these MPCs and SP’s you been a help for me.
@tubeMonger
@tubeMonger 4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I bought a used MPC One earlier this year. Can't wait to get my hands on the beta MPC 3.
@smackbear1
@smackbear1 4 ай бұрын
I was a bit confused about if mpc one will receive the update too? He said 'the old mpc live' and on the akai video it wasnt clear. I also bought a used mpc one (the black one) earlier this year and im hoping its supported! Do you know if it is?
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 4 ай бұрын
​@@smackbear1on the mailing list form MPC one OG is on there
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Og MPC One will get it too
@smackbear1
@smackbear1 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@7mint
@7mint 4 ай бұрын
Disk streaming finally! And a bunch of improvements as well like the Q-Link Macros and XY Pad really opens a lot of possibilities. I just need to confirm if Sequences/Arrangements can still be navigated using Program Change messages
@7mint
@7mint 4 ай бұрын
@InvisibleAcropolis Yeah, I most certainly hope the Arranger update doesn't change it; I'm planning to use Program Change messages as the backbone of my liveset, controlled via a MIDI Mouse pedal as I play guitar
@Marco-ek8wu
@Marco-ek8wu 4 ай бұрын
Interesting update - they've addressed many key features that were missing. Disk streaming, arrangement and the merging of audio and midi tracks being the main takeaways. I did like the old workflow but I'm used to it. This is aimed at new users I suppose to make it easier as an entry point. Should have waited until the pc software was ready and released together as controller mode is defunct really.Having said that a HDMI out on newer MPC models would make a huge difference allowing big screen arranging and mixing without the need for the pc software at all. No mention of any new plug ins but maybe that's on its way. Graphic EQ and a decent reverb are needed in standalone.
@andydufresne6778
@andydufresne6778 4 ай бұрын
word! 🙌🏻
@Crap_Ghost
@Crap_Ghost 4 ай бұрын
There are too many excellent changes to mention that I'm excited for. Thanks for the run down. 8 layers on a drum pad saves a lot of hassle when building velocity layered pads
@ArguZ72
@ArguZ72 3 ай бұрын
I just want an XXL with a new CPU board and 4 times the power...The software now greatly surpassed the limited hardware.Respekt AKAI , Respekt.
@purplenoize
@purplenoize 4 ай бұрын
5:49 "if you miss programs beyond that" in my case 2 things: 1st for mutes. I was muting tracks as a "pattern mute" where switching to a new sequence would not carry the mute whereas program mute was global. I use both options differently depending if I'm arranging or performing live. 2nd since mixing was happening at the program level, on one hand it was less flexible, on the other, guaranteeing consistency between sequences. Now you'll have to mix each sequence and actively check for consistency 🤔
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Good points! It certainly feels like they've focused on a one-sequence workflow
@purplenoize
@purplenoize 4 ай бұрын
@@loopop looks like it yeah Also there's probably gonna be workarounds or equivalents
@infrasonic436
@infrasonic436 4 ай бұрын
The original OS was a little confusing. This update is a lot more linear. Most users will be able to explore around and figure it out. No more wondering where you are in the software.
@henriquestaino2465
@henriquestaino2465 4 ай бұрын
​@@CygnusOrbnope, definitely not. maybe you were familiar already with the old OS, but from UI point of view it was terrible. Absolute mess, with no logical or hierarchical organization.
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 4 ай бұрын
Maybe so, but for years it was the way it was so everyone is used to it.​@@henriquestaino2465
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 4 ай бұрын
@@henriquestaino2465 agreed, makes more sense now, old MPC was weird and very different to standard DAW workflows
@Mar.Escobar24
@Mar.Escobar24 4 ай бұрын
@@m-stat9the point of getting an MPC is so we DON’T have to deal with DAW style work stations. This is catering to most of ya’ll that switch over and want a DAW in a box. Disappointed in this overhaul of the original, but might as well learn how to use it.
@Octaveplex
@Octaveplex 3 ай бұрын
This ​@@Mar.Escobar24
@bazZzment
@bazZzment 4 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS SO MUCH! I never really bonded with Version 2, even though I use it live on stage. AKAI, thank you so much for this!
@LuvingToryChristman
@LuvingToryChristman 4 ай бұрын
It's basically the FORCE OS on MPC. I like! :)
@stevekirkby6570
@stevekirkby6570 4 ай бұрын
This really great - I've signed up for the beta, since there's going to be a learning curve. Nice presentation!
@analog-j
@analog-j 4 ай бұрын
Was about to hit sell on my Live 2 due to the nonsensical workflow and UI pains. I wanted to love the MPC so bad cause the hardware is great, but it was so hard to navigate and use I had given up. I really didn’t expect new software but whoa, this might actually turn it around for me!
@damelos4039
@damelos4039 4 ай бұрын
Always had the SAME issue. I WANTED to adopt the MPC workflow but just wasn't intuitive enough for me. NOW........I'M GOOD TO GO! Thanks AKAI. I'll start using my MPC now.
@teddybeargram3
@teddybeargram3 4 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. I literally have my mpc x just collecting dust. Hopefully this new workflow is easier
@Eigenstates.
@Eigenstates. 4 ай бұрын
Yeah- same for me- now I have to unpack the One and give it a shot. That Program nonsense was all confusing and needless... Thanks Ziv!
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 4 ай бұрын
It won’t change the world. If you didn’t like it before, you probably still won’t.
@fsck-music
@fsck-music 4 ай бұрын
It’s like Dark Souls… it’ll kick your ass for the first 100 hours, but after getting the hang of it, it’s incredibly satisfying to play.
@Garethduffy707
@Garethduffy707 3 ай бұрын
Another stellar review/tutorial…cannot wait to get stuck in to this on my One +
@maschinen-raum
@maschinen-raum 4 ай бұрын
Endlich haben wir einen vernünftigen arranger... yeah. Grüsse aus Deutschland 🎉
@AnalogMonoxide
@AnalogMonoxide 12 күн бұрын
Great video, testing latest beta today and a few tricks in here I hadn't found yet. I keep starting new projects, and almost every single one I found some new bug, but it's going to be great after a bit more time in the oven.
@scheetmcborsten7977
@scheetmcborsten7977 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to see what old projects look like directly after upgrading because I want to see what I'd be dealing with.
@Diamond-Des
@Diamond-Des 4 ай бұрын
not working
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 4 ай бұрын
@@Diamond-Des🤔
@scheetmcborsten7977
@scheetmcborsten7977 4 ай бұрын
@@Diamond-Des is that confirmed?
@trackfammusic2979
@trackfammusic2979 4 ай бұрын
This is the best demo I’ve seen on MP3 so far.. can’t wait!
@dmoracze
@dmoracze 4 ай бұрын
Looks great!! Would still love a proper step sequencer.
@MGoolas
@MGoolas 4 ай бұрын
I bought a second hand beatstep pro for that x0x action. It works really really well, let's you scetch out rhythms very quickly
@dmoracze
@dmoracze 4 ай бұрын
@@MGoolas This is a good idea, thanks!
@MG53v8
@MG53v8 4 ай бұрын
Same here , nice combo! The bsp does polymeters well, which was a bit mathsy on mpc🎉
@eboblin
@eboblin 4 ай бұрын
works great with oxi one in general. hope they also fixed annoying note off bug introduced over a year ago, which prevented normal work with external sequencers.
@BassBajo
@BassBajo 4 ай бұрын
This update is just bananas. I’m holding onto my MPC One that I had for sale after seeing this.
@fairnews7484
@fairnews7484 4 ай бұрын
IMPORTANT: The problem with the 3.0 update is the SONG MODE, as it has been severely DEGRADED. (as it stands right now) Song Mode is "still there".... well yes, but barely... Indeed, you can't mute (and record mutes) on each and every track independently / per sequence anymore! That is my most used feature, and the whole reason I got the MPC in the first place! It replaced my old but great Alesis MMT-8. So many MPC users are screaming about this problem now. That is a massive change that totally kills my usual workflow. All my +300 projects are filled with programmed mutes on and off... Thus, those projects will be incompatible with 3.0... a big loss! I will evidently not upgrade to 3.0, as long as they have not fixed the independent mute per sequence feature problem. Lets hop it's just a bug??
@Usul
@Usul 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic update from AKAI. Looking forward to spending time with 3.0.
@famoushaze8634
@famoushaze8634 4 ай бұрын
What happens with older projects with programs? Do they change?
@thablackkat9905
@thablackkat9905 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I wanted to know
@famoushaze8634
@famoushaze8634 4 ай бұрын
@@thablackkat9905I they change to track now apparently
@elusivemite
@elusivemite 4 ай бұрын
@@famoushaze8634 you can only have 8 plugin tracks total. No duplicates of a plugin track now. Drum program equivalents are unique. Editing one tracks program. Will not affect another track with the same samples. Which sucks
@nicks.8003
@nicks.8003 4 ай бұрын
I think the "Slice Motion" is an interesting feature that can actually be used for Round-Robin Samples. We can in theory create 8-velocity drum pads with round-robin with a relatively infinite amount of round-robins. Finally.
@Tazanthro
@Tazanthro 4 ай бұрын
Damnit, now I want one... you did it again...
@KyuminShimMusic
@KyuminShimMusic 3 ай бұрын
sold all my Mpc, but waiting for Mpc live mk3 hopefully soon! mpc 3 looks great :)
@mokujinsan9946
@mokujinsan9946 4 ай бұрын
Wow now my OG MPC One is like a mini Roland MV.. Fucking Sweeeeeeet.
@UrbanJournal
@UrbanJournal 4 ай бұрын
lol I actually use my Live 2 with my Roland MV.
@mokujinsan9946
@mokujinsan9946 4 ай бұрын
@@UrbanJournal sadly my MV 8800 died 4 years ago after a gig here in Berlin. 😭
@theclutch
@theclutch 4 ай бұрын
Holy Moses! And I was so proud of myself having finally sold my MPC! This new OS looks way more intuitive/way less annoying. Reverb’s loving this one…ah well, who needs rent anyway
@Lordxfx
@Lordxfx 4 ай бұрын
The GUI seems to have a higher dependency on the touchscreen. Unsure if its smart move. I thought a MPC is all about q-links, button and pad combos press to develop muscle memory for a faster work flow. Not really convinced to be honest. Every time I found a way to not touch a screen was a total win, or even a sport. Now it's only fair to support a mouse...
@MS7.7
@MS7.7 4 ай бұрын
I have MPCX and I barely touch the screen. This is by design not because of MPC 2 or 3 Get MPCX or XSE if you want more hands on.
@Lordxfx
@Lordxfx 4 ай бұрын
@@MS7.7 Actually that's not a bad idea, I just started on the platform (3 years in), and I do find it to be a great solution for sequencing the dawless setup. Especially, linear sequencing, and its sampling engine is kind of awesome.
@MS7.7
@MS7.7 4 ай бұрын
@@Lordxfx its unbelievably powerful. Don't bother reading negative comments about not enough ram, etc. There is nothing like it. You just have to dedicate time to learn it inside out. Once you do you will enjoy it and be productive. Little expensive but worth every penny. Also plenty of them on used market for half its original cost.
@Lordxfx
@Lordxfx 4 ай бұрын
@@MS7.7 I've noticed. I've been resampling DnB, Neurobass like a 🏆
@gorgiodelmont1719
@gorgiodelmont1719 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for such an in depth video. This was very informative,along with the official video from Akai. The programs feature will be missed for us. We’ve been using mpc since the 4000 in the mid 2000’s and not having such an amazing feature that was the standard for the machine is simply heartbreaking . To top it off not being able to utilise the same drums from 1 kit on multiple tracks is mind boggling. Akai is trying to integrate into standalone exactly what they were trying to get away from and that’s the software DAW world. This new update while refreshing is overkill for a machine based off of simplicity and workflow. To many features which have nothing to do with the workflow of an already great machine . While killing what the machine was created and used for for 30+ yrs WORKflow.
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! As I show in the video, you can send MIDI to a single track if you want to use the same drums
@couchsurfernation
@couchsurfernation 4 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for LFOs that can be sent to external hardware! I want this so much. It has multiple CV outputs, and great capability of being the 'brain' for a hardware rig, but you can't assign any LFOs to the external hardware. Pleeeeez I want this.
@SH-ry2xi
@SH-ry2xi 4 ай бұрын
Same
@howlinberry1645
@howlinberry1645 4 ай бұрын
Way to go Akai! Going to have to get myself a one+ again.
@Xlornick
@Xlornick 4 ай бұрын
I'm only 5 minutes into this and most of my gripes with MPC2's workflow and GUI are solved. Nice!
@bleedingkansan
@bleedingkansan 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Workflow walls I kept running into and didn't want to spend the time figuring out how to climb over now seem to be gone. I look forward to seeing if I'll now find my Live II something I actually feel like doing things with. I wonder when / how this will be released?
@OckwordProductions
@OckwordProductions 4 ай бұрын
Very informative. Appreciate this video
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ddmlxr
@ddmlxr 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the overview! What about old projects which use multiple prgms with the same kit, would i have to rebuild those projects to work in mpc 3?
@iwillnevergetone5
@iwillnevergetone5 4 ай бұрын
I assume if the old project your same kits across different root programs (1,2,3) that it would transfer over to the new OS. it looks like Akai is focused on UX and bringing as many people in right now, so that type of seamless compatibility had to have been considered for all our legacy projects
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
They should work
@elusivemite
@elusivemite 4 ай бұрын
@@ddmlxr yes. Only the first instance will play correctly. The rest will be turned into midi tracks. (Edit. For plugins. For drum programs it duplicates the program but each track has its own parameters so if you had kicks on one track hats on the next and snare on the third you would need to go into each respective editor to make changes . ) For plugins You could route these to the first track but if you mute the first track nothing else would play. Muting audio instead of muting sequenced midi still. (Still a sore point of mine) So your option is to create a track to pretend to be a program.. Then when you want to edit one of those midi track programs you need to navigate to the ghost program to hit edit.
@binarysun_
@binarysun_ 2 ай бұрын
I love 3.0 and it feels quite home on my X. But the 3.0 uses a bit more of those spare resources and I have yet to see if my largest projects will still work fine. That being said now all we need is a completely redesigned flagship with at least 8GB of ram and a better cpu of course
@simcax6087
@simcax6087 4 ай бұрын
So now we have to control a full DAW on a small touchscreen without a mouse.
@Jianemba
@Jianemba 4 ай бұрын
I hope so, if I can organize full songs now? I should be good
@illeagle8041
@illeagle8041 3 ай бұрын
lol you don’t have to.
@Hummelsbusch
@Hummelsbusch 4 ай бұрын
This fixes most issues I had regarding workflow/visual representation of tracks. Nice one, Akai!
@valemaxema73
@valemaxema73 4 ай бұрын
OF COURSE after years they had to finally do it after I bought a Force... AKAI PLEASE DON'T FUCK UP THIS UPDATE Edit: and also please, please, DON'T ABANDON THE FORCE! It's a great machine and it's almost perfect, don't leave it behind!
@chosenonebeats
@chosenonebeats 4 ай бұрын
It’s already left behind there’s no Force 2 coming
@valemaxema73
@valemaxema73 4 ай бұрын
​@@chosenonebeats Akai is hinting at a Force update in the comment section of their video on MPC 3... Still hopeful
@Eigenstates.
@Eigenstates. 4 ай бұрын
Ziv- you may have saved the MPC for me. With this firmware and your multisample packs I may have to pull this out of the box again.
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Sweet!
@wurlinnawurl
@wurlinnawurl 4 ай бұрын
Can you load old projects in 3? Well they be the same?
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
They should work! If more than one track uses a program they'll MIDI route as I show in the video
@wurlinnawurl
@wurlinnawurl 4 ай бұрын
@@loopop cool!! Thanks!! If you don't mind one more question.. so what does the program button do now?
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
@@wurlinnawurl program edit does the same thing - edits the plugin on the track. Btw clip programs don’t exist (at least not in the beta) so they’ll load as drum tracks with the clips
@Lairmusic
@Lairmusic 4 ай бұрын
They're finally getting it right👏👏👏 My secret dream is that one day they will include a slot for a reference track with key + bpm detection, a more comprehensive lfo as a plugin would be swell as well. Beyond that little dream...well played akai
@sona_rium
@sona_rium 4 ай бұрын
AKAI dropped the clip programs? Is there an alternative to launch tempo synced audio clips quantized live or not? Because for me it's a huge NO NO if AKAI completely got rid of that function.
@j.cnnrtv
@j.cnnrtv 4 ай бұрын
I'm asking myself the same question, I use my MPC in a Live setup, without an alternative to clip programs, I'm going to have to think twice before updating.
@TheSunshineGroup
@TheSunshineGroup 4 ай бұрын
You don’t need clips to quantize tempo synced clips ;). I never ever used clips programs but would always use drop breaks that speed up and slow down with the master BPM
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
no more clip programs unfortunately
@j.cnnrtv
@j.cnnrtv 4 ай бұрын
​@@loopopDo you think they haven't directed it towards a new function that covers that need? Tubbediga has released a paid guide on the new MPC3 firmware, and one of the chapters is titled: "MPC 3 NEW SAMPLE LOOP MODE + LIVE AMBIENT PERFORMANCE" I'm hoping this is a new way to manually launch loops/clips like in MPC2 Do you have any information about it?
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
@@j.cnnrtv no sorry I don’t have more info except that clip programs are gone. I can kind of imagine a live looping workflow if you create an arranger loop the size of your looper loop and export to a track - that might work but I haven’t played with it yet
@TheLexikitty
@TheLexikitty 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Did you notice if there was anything added for step input/SH-101-like recording! List View was the closest workaround before. Thanks!
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Nothing beyond list view (unless I missed something!)
@TheLexikitty
@TheLexikitty 4 ай бұрын
@@loopop rad, was just curious, appreciate the reply!
@Esoge
@Esoge 4 ай бұрын
This is an abomination of the MPC workflow to look even more like a generic DAW in a box. Programs being gone is a dealbreaker for me. They ARE the MPC workflow and they're what allow my workflow to move as fast as it does. Now they've completely disrupted the entire basis of their workflow design that made them stand out to just be a worse DAW. This is BS.
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b 4 ай бұрын
I AGREE , this is a step backwards .
@Esoge
@Esoge 4 ай бұрын
@@user-rv8wb1nl1b I'm on board with a lot of the workflow changes they made here and the conveniences like being able to rearrange the order of FX which should have been there since day 1 frankly, but this is too far gone for me. I've used the MPCs for decades BECAUSE of their workflow. Why would they cater to an audience who DOESN'T like them and constantly complains that they should be something they're not instead of their CORE AUDIENCE? 🤦‍♂️
@XanderEwald
@XanderEwald 4 ай бұрын
@@EsogeBecause it’s a bigger audience.
@valemaxema73
@valemaxema73 4 ай бұрын
You can literally replicate the program paradigm in this new update by using MIDI tracks as Loopop shows. What's lost with this change?
@Esoge
@Esoge 4 ай бұрын
@@valemaxema73 it's not the same and I can see that. It's much more tedious because I'd have to copy a track including all of its data including MIDI information and automation data that I would then have to manually go in and delete potentially just to start a new sequence with the same "program" of sounds. It completely kills the workflow of what makes an MPC an MPC and the very reason I have used them for decades now. All to appeal to people who don't like their product. Not a smart move IMO
@mrtommy9220
@mrtommy9220 4 ай бұрын
thank you AKAI for this! mpc 3 sounds like fun
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines 4 ай бұрын
Looks amazing. I can’t wait to see the next gen of mpc hardware. I’d love a big touch screen and layout and interface like Electra one to control synths and plugins. I like how much development they’re giving to their products. I’ve never owned an akai but it looks tempting
@ThinkerThunker
@ThinkerThunker 3 ай бұрын
They dropped "Clip" programs! I can't believe this. I used Clips all the time to loop samples of different lengths, and now in 3.0 the entire Clip programs is GONE. Please tell me Clips will be back in the public release.
@FredericSoulard
@FredericSoulard Ай бұрын
Yes it was so useful !!! Bring back the clip programs!!!
@dudeontour
@dudeontour 4 ай бұрын
thanks for the video. Would love to see sample chopping features added like Serato before the final release. Adding "Random" to Threshold, region, bpm and manual. Like Serato the ability to lock in particular chops and then hit random again would be killer. Possibly even adding a feature that after locking in a sample from random, the ability to time stretch and pitch change each locked sample individual would be an epic 3.0 addition. cheers
@marcutrillogibert9154
@marcutrillogibert9154 4 ай бұрын
Great review like always, Now its mandatory bigger screen for the newers devices
@robinreuther9965
@robinreuther9965 4 ай бұрын
i cannot wait and i will not wait any longer. GIVE IT TO ME NOW!!!
@simonlees2848
@simonlees2848 4 ай бұрын
This update looks great, i think ill have to try the beta
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 4 ай бұрын
I'm excited for the upcoming full video on the Korg MicroKorg 2
@dallas-cole
@dallas-cole 3 ай бұрын
Super cool update.
@patanthony1910
@patanthony1910 4 ай бұрын
For the longest time I wishrd for somethin as simple as changing the order of effects and tracks I appreciate this
@s.gharavi1614
@s.gharavi1614 4 ай бұрын
I genuinely preferred the programs separate from the tracks because I often sketch out using a limited number of programs and then replace them as I evolve the composition. Now, I think I'll need to be more precise from the get go to not have extra steps created by 3.0. It's just another workflow.
@remyvegamedia
@remyvegamedia Ай бұрын
I'm really loving MPC3. But they need to bring back odd time signatures. Loopop, spread the word that we need odd signatures in both quarter and eighth note division! Thanks for the great work as always!
@alessandrocolico2037
@alessandrocolico2037 9 күн бұрын
Is ver3 not supporting Polyrythm?
@remyvegamedia
@remyvegamedia 9 күн бұрын
@ I think you can do polyrhythms by changing loop length of each track, but odd time signatures is a different story.
@sundalo916
@sundalo916 4 ай бұрын
let's gooo! ❤‍🔥can't wait
@rolardnb
@rolardnb 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your review! As always, it is awesome!
@ElPat0
@ElPat0 4 ай бұрын
With a free granular plugin Akai would deliver the top of the cake... amazing update!
@pharwh
@pharwh 4 ай бұрын
that’s crazy they went full ableton mode this reminds me of akai force
@theobgshow
@theobgshow 4 ай бұрын
Ouch! Did he say the OLD MPC Live. I have one and am happy with it, thank you 😅
@ktreier
@ktreier 4 ай бұрын
@loopop hopefully they’ll port these features to the Force.
@lostdogarmymusic
@lostdogarmymusic 2 ай бұрын
As always, great overview. Youre the best. Question: In MPC3 how do i save a plugin to a "favorites" folder. I cannot seem to find it anywhere. I loved that in MPC 2 , made my workflow fast.
@krealdesign
@krealdesign 4 ай бұрын
I just got the Live II a week ago, what a time hahah! Love everything, though coming from older gen MPCs I feel like removing programs is a 50/50 move. It’s way easier to bank sounds having programs and that’s partly what made MPC an MPC. I hope navigating sounds and organizing kits within one “track” will still be easy as I don’t dig 1-1 track workflow. I always bang a whole kit with several drums similtaneously and only explode when mixing
@pcfirebeats
@pcfirebeats 4 ай бұрын
I hope they do a big uodate in Force soon too, but it seems a great uodate for MPC.
@bullet1218
@bullet1218 4 ай бұрын
Akai is locking the game down....🔥💯👍🏼
@ManCalledMif
@ManCalledMif 4 ай бұрын
Wow. Looks like a massive improvement
@georgesbahia
@georgesbahia 4 ай бұрын
O Melhor do KZbin. Le Meilleur du KZbin. The best of KZbin
@Ancaja123
@Ancaja123 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad I really only use my Live for live performance uses. All I wanted was disk streaming and not be limited to the Ram for backing tracks. Breaking the Program/Track workflow is majorly bad to me but over the years I’ve had many friends who had a hard time grasping that workflow. I learned on an MPC 16 years ago, so for me it was incredibly fast and intuitive. So this will now be a machine purely for live performance, and my MPC60 will remain my main drum machine and midi sequencer (along with an RK-008). Besides, I never liked how the Live II didn’t have a track +/- button, and List Edit was much worse than the Step Edit that was in legacy MPCs.
@gavinoneill7102
@gavinoneill7102 4 ай бұрын
A lot of this functionality has come from the Force. It was only a matter of time!
@VTOLKits
@VTOLKits 4 ай бұрын
Very nice update....🥰👍🎧
@anthonyalexander7246
@anthonyalexander7246 4 ай бұрын
About time
@vondragonnoggin
@vondragonnoggin 14 күн бұрын
So strange that this is finally catching up to the finished Roland MV8800 features. 18 years later. MV8800 had the arranger view, the clip view (pattern views), could launch patterns based on patterns assigned to pads, explode drum tracks in one click. The only thing it was missing was a fast processor, some SD card reader, stream from disk. Efficiency though - 512mb RAM would get you several songs within one project easy. I’ve never run out of RAM. Also the internal instruments you create can be on their own midi track without taking up an actual midi channel. I’ve been sequencing 10 synths including full 16 midi channel multitimbral synths, all easily done with the MV8800. You can even freely place an audio track contents across multiple patterns in song mode. Was really hoping the MV-1 could come as a continuation of this brilliant instrument, but sadly, they created something completely different in the MV-1. That said, as soon as the version 3 comes out of beta mode, I’m going to buy an MPC One +. The speed of the hardware will finally draw me to replacing my two MV8800’s. I’ve been patiently waiting for something like this since the launch of the MPC Live and X as standalone machines. What a bizarre loss and wait for products to catch up to 2007 MV8800 version. The MV8800 final version has really withstood a test of time for brilliance. That said, BeatMaker 3 on iPad has had all this functionality for many years. Basically since it’s launch.
@Mista808
@Mista808 4 ай бұрын
I thought the update that changes my MPC X's interface came out yesterday on August 8th? I rushed home from work this morning and updated my MPC to 2.15 but the interface is still exactly the same? Did I do something wrong or is the update that changes our entire interface not even out yet? And if not, when is it coming?
@VEsound
@VEsound 4 ай бұрын
Hi loopop, thanks for the clear video as usual. No link to the Akai product webpage? I don't know if you asked them about this version 3 ported to the Force?
@loopop
@loopop 4 ай бұрын
Thanks - added a link. I didn’t ask because it seems like more force is being ported to MPC :)
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