EPSON ET8550 - FINALLY testing Epson Paper: Things didn’t go to plan

[@actionphotopassion5082]

How funny. Thank you for this video it was so refreshing 😂

[@actionphotopassion5082]

Dang why did you have to dismount the rear of the printer ? I'm sorry I don't know this ET8550, I use XP 15k which is also dye ink A3+ but with cartridges, just that I don't have to do so to use the rear feed...🤔 I'm on the verge to add an ET 2870 hope won'tbe necessary for A4

[@lindat9365]

I recently purchased the ET8500 printer and I can print on 250gsm pre scored cardstock, the card I'm using is slightly textured. I have put in two sheets using the top feed. Yay NO ROLLER MARKS! I did actually change the thickness on the printer to thick media. I'm not sure if I changed the printer setting on my laptop to match. I tried the rear feed but couldn't get on with it. So stuck to the top back feed. One happy bunny. x just a quick tip when scoring the card use a folded piece of copy paper over the top when you crease it. No marks on it. Love your video it was very informative, you helped me to choose this printer before I purchased it a few months back. x

[@adamstar7516]

Thanks for doing all this work. Your big mistake from the beginning is thinking GSM was the measurement of paper thickness. It isn’t. It is weight. Hope you will try again 😊 ‘Mic’ is the unit you should be looking at. ‘Mic’ is an abbreviation for ‘Microns’ which is a unit of measure used for gauging paper thickness. One micron = 1000th of a millimetre, therefore 250mic = 0.25mm and 1000mic = 1mm. This is where things can get slightly confusing. GSM and Microns are not necessarily directly proportionate to each other. For example, one brand of 100gsm paper can be thicker (in Microns) than another paper of the same weight (in GSM) due to the type of wood pulp it’s made from, or which ‘bulking’ methods are used in its construction. Other manufacturing processes such as ‘calendaring’ involve paper being passed between high pressure rollers to compress the fibres, resulting in paper that is thinner and denser without affecting its weight per 1m².

[@jagosart]

Oh, now that makes more sense. Thank you for explaining it :-) I bet they don't put the Mic details in their descriptions but I will definitely look out for it. Thanks again :-)

[@hellswench5388]

Well done for sticking it out. I did consider this printer but tbh for my needs way to big and more than my budget would allow but still doesn't stop me wanting it, although I would find space if pushed I opted for a smaller Canon Megatank and for my needs does an excellent job but I do find I sometimes I want to print larger than A4 but just scall back my project. Paper and card stock as a paper crafter is a nightmare I notice all too often that what is marked as xxx gsm feels thinner although a little denser which is not useful when you want a thicker card. Perhaps that's why the Epson printer paper doesn't show roller marks because it is denser therefore no give in the paper to leave the marks unlike thicker paper of the same weight (gsm) will imprint/emboss/deboss etc. I have been using PPD photo paper with excellent results and it has a plain back, they also do packs of greeting card blanks with envelopes.

[@stuarthoward3855]

The gms will relate to the paper density not the thickness same as 1Kg of sugar vs 1Kg of flour. Even though it’s thinner than you expected it may be stable enough to make greetings cards. Epson heavy weight Matt is in my opinion a good paper and being Matt it can be viewed from any angle. But I don’t make cards.

[@wernerswannet]

Have you looked at the video of Keith Cooper about poster board printing? It is on double sided Epson board. Maybe it's available in other sizes.

[@derbi123]

So funny!

[@tticeland]

The 8550 is a great printer. Giving the ink enough time to dry in the printing process can help to avoid rollermarks. 1: thick paper on (driver/printer) 2: one way printing (two way printing off (driver) 3: printing silent (driver/printer) The prints will take longer, but its worth it. Thank you for showing us your experience.

[@Pat-1000]

Giving the ink enough time to dry in the printing process can help to avoid roller marks .. how does this work ? the print has already been printed and the roller marks are there this has nothing to do with drying times , the marks don't disappear once completely dry , thick paper setting or back slot makes no difference with the paper i used , some papers just don't work well on some printers , the only solution is use OEM paper or find a third party brand that will work without issues.

[@tticeland]

​@@Pat-1000You're absolutely right that the ET-8550 paper wise can be hit or miss. My own experiences with the slow paper printing process is good - found the advice on a sublimation channel showing how a set of rollers inside the printer, pick up the paper just after ink is applied, slowing down (one way/silent) gives a small drying window to make the ink less prone to roller marks. ET-8550 is punching above it's weight, and knowing all the variables to get there is why printing is fun.

[@MiMySlots]

Do you change the thick paper setting on the printer? I had changed it in my Mac Printer computer settings. Where do I find the "One Way printing"? Thanks

[@ukprintshop]

Really good video. Great to see you bringing your personality to a topic that could less interesting. I really enjoyed watching :) We’ve always found that glossy paper is thinner than the equivalent gsm Matt or uncoated paper/card, but agree it’s super confusing. We print greeting cards for a lot less than £1.18 per card. Give me a shout if you want me to send you some samples 😊

[@adamstar7516]

Hello I’m new to your channel. First, thanks for all the effort. I came here really as I was looking for reviews of printers and I want to print cards. Your big mistake from the beginning g is thinking MSG was the measurement of paper thickness… it’s not. It’s weight. And because different materials are used to make paper a lighter paper can be thicker than one with more MSG. The unit you should be looking for is ‘mic’. Here’s some more info that might help your journey. All the best: ‘Mic’ is an abbreviation for ‘Microns’ which is a unit of measure used for gauging paper thickness. One micron = 1000th of a millimetre, therefore 250mic = 0.25mm and 1000mic = 1mm. This is where things can get slightly confusing. GSM and Microns are not necessarily directly proportionate to each other. For example, one brand of 100gsm paper can be thicker (in Microns) than another paper of the same weight (in GSM) due to the type of wood pulp it’s made from, or which ‘bulking’ methods are used in its construction. Other manufacturing processes such as ‘calendaring’ involve paper being passed between high pressure rollers to compress the fibres, resulting in paper that is thinner and denser without affecting its weight per 1m². Hope you have the stamina and patience to try again 😊

[@garyloader1416]

Have you installed Epson Media Installer on your PC? This software allows you to adjust the thickness of your paper. My Epson P900 prints on 310 gsm Hahnemuhle Matt Fine Art Photo Rag Bright White paper just fine with no roller marks... There are settings that you can edit the thickness of the paper in it. Also on printer Menu/General Settings/Printer Settings/Thick Paper. This is default to of for some bizarre reason. Also if you power down the printer it defaults back to thick paper...off!

[@principlephotography]

Thanks for recommending Marrutt papers. I've been printing images for my exhibition on Satin/Oyster 265 gsm. I'm very happy with the results.

[@Pat-1000]

Thank you for taking the time to produce this and the cost of the paper , i have the roller marks only on a3+ paper and not epson branded i must add , i will get some a3+ epson paper , i have tried this paper you are using here and it is flimsy but great looking photo print from it , best non epson paper i have found so far comes from the permajet range , beautiful results and generic ICC profiles + Custom profiles ..well worth a look

[@mb-moose]

❤ well that cheered me up after a day in the rain. About half way through, I did have concerns that you were going over the edge into madness, but thankfully, you held it together. Well done. 9 I still think there's something wrong with a £600+ printer that seems to leave roller marks on so many people's paper. On a £200 printer with a thick fine art paper, fair enough.....but on a printer in this price bracket, I think it should cope with papers that serious enthusiasts/ professionals are likely to use. As always, you brought a ray of sunshine into my ki5fyen as I cook tea. Cheers

[@kennethsimons616]

Hi there Jagos Art i have been watching your videos for quite a while before I purchased an 8550, however I dont use the printer for my greeting cards (I printed 22000 last year), I use a pair of Canon G5050 printers which are run by 3 colour plus a black 70 mil resevoirs and are very cheap to run, although this would mean that youd need yet another printer I honestly couldnt praise them enough for speed, quality and all round usability, As for my backgrund I service around 550 artists and have been doing so for around 20 years, mainly printing greeting cards, Ltd Edition Prints, Placemats etc, I gleen this work by visiting Art Groups and Galleries, hope this helps, Ken

[@kennethsimons616]

forgot to add i use papercutz 300gsm card for all of my cards and have been for quite a while now.

[@tonyhawk123]

So your Canon handles card without these issues plagued by the Epson? I’d love to buy this Epson but the issues with card making keep putting me off. I had assumed the Canon wouldn’t be as high quality / dpi etc due to it being a cheaper printer.

[@Stickiply]

5 Dye Based inks, 1 Pigment Black btw like most home-based printers.

[@jefawksspaghettorium]

most home printers have 3 dyes + black. Usually no pigment black.

[@CherylVinson-f8q]

Good morning, can you show how to print in back size picture 11x17 into a 11x17 paper from the printer or print from a SD card into a 11x17 paper off the printer?

[@Shahalud]

8550 really seems to have issues with a lot of glossy papers. I used the same weight glossy and matte papers (both by red river papers), and the glossy always had roller marks, while the matte always crisp and clean. Needless to say, most of my cards are matte.

[@Pat-1000]

I have no issues with any of the glossy papers used so far , a3+ @ 300gsm going through the Rear paper feed OR the back SLOT is leaving roller marks right across the the printed surface , I genuinely cannot blame the printer ( yet ) because i bought paper Brilliant Museum SilverGloss White A3+ x 25 sheets 300g/m² .... They don't supply any ICC profiles for the ET8550 For the given paper , so this error in paper choice was my own fault because i did not do my own research before buying the paper like we all should be doing as a basic rule.

[@timtog]

Maybe give this a try A4 to A5 Matt 300GSM Card Blanks, double sided INKJET Matte 50 Card Blanks from papercutz.

[@MrdjMob]

I get roller marks on 180gsm and its alot of them like 6-8 through all page Printer only week old and done less then 50 a3 photos I think printer itself sucks Epson ain't helpful at all just saying do maintenance run etc. Really with under 50 pics need maintenance after maintenance I wish i d chosen canon

[@lordsirnoelmanchester3592]

You've said in reverse at 14:16 that it's 5 pigments & 1 dye ink set.

[@DavidCollinsRivera]

That really is a hassle to work with, considering your current set-up and location. And that thin paper wouldn't do at all. I agree, it's not worth it. That being said, 50p is about 66¢ USA. 50p for a greeting card is what they're asking in your neighborhood? I'm not sure about anywhere else, but I'm seeing prices like $4.50 (or £3.43) in places like Walmart around here. That's for those kinda-sorta (but not really) funny cards, with cartoon art and humorous greetings. For the pretty ones, with no caption...well, first off, there aren't may of them. Like, only one or two choices out of hundreds of cards up and down the aisle, and even then, they have stock photos, not actual art. Nothing against photography, but that's the reality of the thing here. Those sometimes have very fancy paper, and cost even more than the "funny" kind. So, £3.50 for one of your cards would not be all that excessive, I don't think. And £4.50 wouldn't be outrageous in the least for a piece of original art. Anyway, this was quite a fun journey, and I'm sure it helped some folks who are looking at new printers. Thanks!

[@jhlewis10]

13 minutes for you to just open the paper. Get on with it.

[@Schmambo]

You should watch her previous video and you'll understand why comments like yours are counterproductive. But at least you took the time to engage.

[@jefawksspaghettorium]

14:12 5 dye inks, 1 pigment ink and the pigment ink is black and is never used for printing photo, it only triggers when you print documents

[@Eyegazersphoto]

Oops that isn’t correct. The pigment ink is used for Mat blacks and advanced black and white printing. It is 100% for photographs. Dye is the cheaper ink.