Epson LS800 UST Projector First Look Review. Brightest UST In 2022 New Epson Laser TV Up To 150"!

ProjectorScreen.com's first look at the brand new Epson LS800 ultra short throw projector. This new laser TV projector offers 4000 lumens of brightness and provides an incredible cinematic experience with vivid colors and fantastic black levels.
Brian G. gives you a first look review of the Epson LS800, the newest big screen television replacement.
Epson LS800 Ultra Short Throw Projector
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[@AmrcnFirestorm]

Fantastic first look Brian. Got mine in today and WOW is this thing bright. Does great even upstairs in the living room with the curtains open. Still doing some reno in the basement but looking forward to getting drywall hung - then it's off to your crew for a Spectra screen that I keep hearing good things about! Keep up the great work, you're a true blessing to this industry!

[@ProjectorScreen]

Matthew, thank you SO much for the kind words! I am glad you are loving your new LS800... wait till you get the screen in! 🤯

[@ebpman]

Great first look brian

[@ProjectorScreen]

Thanks! LMK if you wanna borrow this guy for a video on your own channel; you do great work!

[@justinbeamon6624]

Just like they said can't wait to see it against the Formovie, AWOL, etc. The input lag compared to those along with its amazing contrast seems to put it above the rest in initial thoughts. I'm more interested in the dark performance and how that compares specifically.

[@romeocasanova3865]

Great Review is Nice to here a professional , layout the Details 👍 hey Does this have eARC ??? & also edge blending available Thanks brother much success to you & the Great company you represent 👊🇨🇦🇬🇹👊

[@ProjectorScreen]

No eARC, just regular ARC

[@thomasmorel1447]

Great review as usual. What about the black levels ? The Formovie is 0.024 nits

[@ProjectorScreen]

Thanks! We will be doing some in depth measurement and calibrations and will post all the details on our blog and then in another more thorough review here on KZbin.

[@ricky3506]

Great review as always. Will be giving you guys a buzz in the near future. This paired with a 150” screen will make the excellent excellent family room experience.

[@ProjectorScreen]

Thanks for the kind words Ricky. This projector is unreal when paired with the 150” Spectra Projection Vantage ALR screen and would kick @$$ in any living room big enough to house this monster combo.

[@ricky3506]

@@ProjectorScreen absolutely it will. I’m currently having my home built and will have that setup in my living room with a good surround system. Should be ready by spring 2023. I’ll be reaching out to you guys towards the end of the year.

[@ikincibaski]

ThX for the review, just one question: Is it possible to make reverse projection with LS800? And do you have any feedback for projecting on the smart (switchable) glass?

[@ProjectorScreen]

The image can be made into rear projection. I am not familiar with smart/switchable glass.

[@NoNNoGame]

As requested already - we need a Formovie x LS800 1on1 asap! Thanks in advance!

[@petepuma7008]

Since the LS800 wasn't available for the recent showdown, it would be great to see it up against the Formovie.

[@ProjectorScreen]

We will be be putting these two head to head in our shootout series soon. I haven’t even had a chance to see them side by side yet, but we will be doing a much more in depth review of the LS800 as well very soon on our blog and with another video here on KZbin as well. Stay tuned!

[@TheBsball721]

I heard you were doing a Optoma CinemaX D2 review. I would love to see a comparison of the LS800 and the D2. I will be using it for gaming and was all but set on getting the D2 until I saw this review. Any ideas on when we will see a D2 review and a comparison of these 2 UST's? Great work by the way. I am new the projection and your videos and website are very informative.

[@ProjectorScreen]

I don’t think our D2 review will be up until mid December as we are all hands on deck preparing for the holiday rush. Feel free to call our specialists at 1-888-392-4814 to get the inside scoop and help deciding between the two.

[@hellsacolyte]

Great review as always Brian! I look forward to these uploads! Too bad the Formovie doesn't' have as low of input lag though. But this seems like a real good projector. Based on what you're saying, it does seem to beat my V7050i. How slow is it at switching modes? That's probably the most irritating part of the BenQ. Going SDR -> HDR or to 24hz is glacial.

[@ProjectorScreen]

Haven't even tested that. I'll see if we can address it in our in depth review.

[@hellsacolyte]

@@ProjectorScreen Great news, looking forward to seeing if this dethrones the V7050i as well. My gut says this is going to be the best all around single laser. I'm also curious on the gap in comparison with the Formovie. The input lag is making me seriously consider moving to it (as you know from our dm's on avs)

[@weikra2023]

Hi! Some questions… Is there a native 50 Hz support for PAL TV? 2. Is the LS800 as loud as the LS500 with 50% brightness? I found the LS500 noisy. For me, the quietest UST is the Samsung LSP9T. 3. Is there a frame interpolation available? Thanks!

[@cptairwolf]

when is it available in Canada? I don't see any info online regarding purchase price in Canada.

[@yuzi331]

Hey Brian, How do I use the pixel-shaving feature you mentioned in the video? I have the Epson Silverflex 120". In the dark room, The white lights on the right and left are bleeding out. I cannot find any settings in the Installation function to get rid of it. Projector's distance is 9 inches from the wall and almost 9 inches Offset from the top of the projector.

[@jgill1064]

This looks very interesting but I am seeing what appears to be very noticeable dynamic contrast type effect at about 5:20 and again briefly at 9:12, anybody else notice this and knows if it able to be reduced or eliminated? Is it actually the Epson or the camera? I also notice the projector is tilted in relation to the screen frame, is it needed to fill the screen and avoid keystone, wouldn't geometry become an issue given this situation?

[@jclary83]

Same question. We need a throw down between this and the champ.

[@ProjectorScreen]

It will be coming soon…

[@justinbeamon6624]

It'd be cool to see a comparison between this and the 5050UB. Since these UST's are getting so good and have better blacks than before I'd love to see how it compares against the value champion of the $3000 segment.

[@ProjectorScreen]

You may just get your wish

[@JetsonCrusader]

Since the Epson LS800 only has HDR10, how important is HDR10+ or Dolby Vision over simply HDR10?

[@thankutheodore]

The man , the myth , the legend !

[@ProjectorScreen]

You’re a legend in your own right as well Mark! 🥰

[@BillyReichard]

Any chance I can get what video you are showing in this video on it? I recently bought a projector and want to test it with the same video. But I may be returning it for this Epson! Thank you!

[@ProjectorScreen]

Send us an email with your order number and a request for the video and I will pass it on to our marketing department to see if they can share it with you.

[@ahoerauf94]

I would love a review comparing formovie, awol and hisense l9g

[@ProjectorScreen]

These all will be getting into our shootout series soon, stay tuned!

[@mhmdebrahim9774]

hi Ebson ls 800 or LG CineBeam HU915QE ?

[@EvanWasHere]

When you do your full review please also note how the pixel-shifting 4K of this projector is against native 4K projectors like the formovie at 120"-150". Like others, I'm about to buy a projector and was going to go for the Formovie as per your recommendation, but love the brightness of this Epson a lot.

[@thomasmorel1447]

Formovie is not native 4K

[@EvanWasHere]

@@thomasmorel1447 WHAT THE HECK!! You are right. All the documentation online says "native 3840 x 2160". But I had to really search for ten minutes until I found out that it uses 4K XPR eShift.

[@sunlips_]

@@thomasmorel1447 which USTs currently on the market are truly 4k?

[@FelixGaunt]

@@sunlips_ Hmmm, I don't think any? 😕

[@robzilla69]

@@sunlips_ none!

[@TonELowq]

When are you doing the full review on the LS800. I currently have the LSP9T and im thinking about upgrading to the LS800 for brightness in my family room. Your thoughts?

[@ProjectorScreen]

We are currently editing our in depth review for the blog which should go live later this week. Then we will be turning that into a video, which is likely a couple weeks before it will be published on KZbin.

[@TonELowq]

@@ProjectorScreen I wonder how this compares to the Awol 3500 as far as brightness and picture quality. I'm torn between the 2

[@ProjectorScreen]

@@TonELowq Our full review of the LS800 is live: www.projectorscreen.com/blog/Epson-EpiqVision-Ultra-LS800-Ultra-Short-Throw-Projector-Review We will be doing a shootout of it vs the AWOL LTV-3500 soon - stay tuned to our channel!

[@FooFighter33]

Any update on when the full review will be ready please?

[@ProjectorScreen]

It’s being edited now and should be live on our blog by the weekend. Video version will be another week or so.

[@twolfekc]

How would this projector being setup in a very bright conference room with lots of natural light coming in look? Speakers included.. the room is about 20 foot in length

[@ProjectorScreen]

You would certainly need an appropriate screen. Give us an email at [e-mail] with some photos of the room and how large of a screen you want and our team will be glad to show you some options and provide some insight.

[@roberto231991]

My doubts is EpsonLS800 or Formovie theater or Hisense L9G?please your thoughts?Thanks in advance.

[@ProjectorScreen]

All great choices with their own strengths and weaknesses. Each one may be better for someone depending on what critter is most important to them.

[@GFDthatsMe]

Same question. Formovie theater vs this

[@ProjectorScreen]

It will be coming soon…

[@observer5240]

Can you suggest me which one I should choose LS 800 or Foremovie Theatre

[@ProjectorScreen]

That would really depend on your rooms lighting condition and what other factors may be more important to you. Give us a call at 1-888-392-4814 or shoot us an email to [e-mail] with some pics of your space and we will be glad to help.

[@karthikm-vy5gl]

How does this compare to formovie theater? If you have to choose one of them, which one would you choose?

[@petepuma7008]

That's what I would like to know. Why do you think he hasn't given you an answer to your question? Clearly, he has seen both projectors.

[@ProjectorScreen]

I haven’t put them side by side yet, nor spent nearly as much time with the Epson as I have for the Formovie. I will answer the question when I have an answer I am confident in.

[@richarddias5285]

what are your thoughts on Epson LS800 vs. AWOL Vision LTV-3500 150inch?

[@ProjectorScreen]

We will be doing a shootout of these two on the 150" soon - stay tuned!

[@darroncoates9055]

Compare this against Formovie theater, AWOL, and Hisense LS9?

[@ProjectorScreen]

We will be throwing this into our UST Shootout series against those and others, so stay tuned.

[@keifferbuggs6466]

Can this projector be used with a Screen Innovations 120" 2.35:1 black diamond screen?

[@ProjectorScreen]

No it cannot, Black Diamond is not compatible with UST

[@sunnyd6291]

No dolby atmos or dolby vision !! does it send out any of these audio signals so a dolby sound bar would work?sound is almost as important as picture

[@ProjectorScreen]

Definitely no Dolby Vision, and I am pretty sure no Atmos either. Epson didn’t provide us with any real info prior to this review; just the projector. We will have a lot more info to share in our upcoming in-depth review.

[@EvanWasHere]

If your source has Dolby Atmos and your sound bar can play it, then it doesn't matter if the projector doesn't support it. But lack of Dolby Vision is disappointing.

[@weelingyong]

@@EvanWasHere My apple TV supports Atmos, so does the JBL 9.2.1 soundbar that I have. It seems like when I connect the apple TV to the projector HDMI 1, I don't get atmos. But when I connect the apple TV to the soundbar extra HDMI in, I get Atmos. Would you know why?

[@timothywouters7897]

Wonder how this holds up versus the formovie

[@ProjectorScreen]

These two will be going head-to-head in a shootout soon. Stay tuned!

[@eliasmiranda5637]

Is ultra short projector better than the Formovie projector?

[@ProjectorScreen]

We will be putting these two head to head in a UST Shootout very soon - subscribe to our channel to get notified when the video drops.

[@texusyup6207]

I am a bit unclear on the color gamut here. rec709 or bt2020? Epson says 2020 but seeing other places suggest much closer to 709.

[@ProjectorScreen]

They have 709 on their spec sheet but also say over 1 billion colors. Our unit is in the hands of our calibrator as we speak who will be running the sweeps and analysis and we will include on our blog and next video for the in depth review

[@darroncoates9055]

Is the Epson ls800 a triple laser ultra short throw projector?

[@ProjectorScreen]

It is only a single laser

[@sunlips_]

4k @60hz/ 1080p @120hz is a start but I wonder when we’ll see units capable of outputting 4k 120hz.

[@ProjectorScreen]

It’s something that a LOT of people are looking for, hopefully the manufacturers are able to accommodate soon.

[@DOGMA1138]

You won't see it from Epson anytime soon, if you want HDMI 2.1 for 4K@120 and eARC you have to go for their pro-cinema line since their mid range and entry level projectors still use 8 year old HDMI 2.0 MediaTek chipsets even in 2022. If you want good gaming performance, eARC in a UST the "cheapest" one you can get right now is the LG HU915QE/QB.

[@sunlips_]

@@DOGMA1138 I’m not waiting specifically on Epson to roll that feature out. It can be any brand. I can’t justify spending $2000-4500 on a UST that still lacks this feature. I know we’re getting close to seeing it though, probably within the next year

[@DOGMA1138]

@@sunlips_ in that price range we aren't close at all as long as you rely on pixel shifting 120hz at 4K isn't going to happen, heck neither this UST nor most others don't even support a true 120hz for 1080p, the 120hz for 1080p support is often an artifact of legacy 3D support so getting actual input signal to display at true 120hz is a different story.

[@gx12]

Glad they got rid of the periscope lens from the LS500. Is the LS800 also 3D compatible?

[@ProjectorScreen]

Unfortunately the ls800 does not support 3D 😥

[@gx12]

@@ProjectorScreen Yeah, that’s too bad. Are there any projectors you can recommend that are good for 3D (my streaming service has them on demand)? I was looking at Optoma and Epson, also heard BenQ is good. Hoping for 3000+ lumens. Does RF vs DLP matter that much for glasses?

[@ProjectorScreen]

@@gx12 At a comparable price point, the BenQ V7050i is a great option. You will need to use the DLP link glasses with any of the DLP based 3D projectors to my knowledge. RF based glasses will require a projector with an RF emitter, such as what JVC uses. www.projectorscreen.com/benq-v7050i-4k-ultra-short-throw-laser-projector-black.html

[@NoNNoGame]

There is something I don't get. You are talking about the "incredible small distance to the wall" while showing an image which tells 9.8 cm distance @100”. I also used the Projector Throw Distance Calculator on Projector Central, but somehow I get too much different information about the needed distance to the wall. Btw. Epson states on its German website 80' with a distance of 2.3 cm (which is about 0.9 inches) which might be a translation issue.

[@ProjectorScreen]

The throw distance on this is 0.16:1 which is the smallest of any UST. That is 3.9" away from wall (closest part of projector) for a 100"; ProjectorCentral may be measuring form the other side of the projector, where the lens sits.

[@weelingyong]

4000 lumens on Epson LS800 is equivalent to how many Ansi Lumens?

[@techninja3001]

How does it compare to formovie theater?

[@ProjectorScreen]

We will be be putting these two head to head in our shootout series soon. I haven’t even had a chance to see them side by side yet, but we will be doing a much more in depth review of the LS800 as well very soon on our blog and with another video here on KZbin as well. Stay tuned!

[@stoianovadrian8772]

hi team! we need this review, please! Formovie Theater vs Epson LS800. They are at the same price and I need to know Pros and Cons for them, features and image quality. Thank you!

[@ProjectorScreen]

While our shootout video and blog post may not be ready, please feel free to call our sales team at 1-888-392-4814 and one of our specialists will be glad to discuss these two units with you.

[@stoianovadrian8772]

@@ProjectorScreen yes, but that like describing colours with words. I would like to see that side by side comparison. I have my finger on the trigger but I don't know which one to shot for...

[@ProjectorScreen]

@@stoianovadrian8772 Come on down and make an appointment in our showroom in NJ to see them side by with your own eyes.

[@stoianovadrian8772]

@@ProjectorScreen :) would be very expensive and not practical. Regards, from UK! 🤗

[@ProjectorScreen]

@@stoianovadrian8772 If you do decide to take the flight on over, I'll pay for your in-flight meal ;)

[@drjust2011]

what ust is the brightest?

[@ProjectorScreen]

This one, the Epson LS800 is the brightest

[@SergeyLeschinsky]

No hdmi 2.1? Why? 🤔

[@ProjectorScreen]

Great question….

[@jocelyndeguise]

Who forgot to edit that out ? 9:18

[@ProjectorScreen]

My OLD videographer/editor who is now locked in the dungeon for this mistake

[@gun2dadeep]

You really can't pair this to a subwoofer? I wanted to use my Sonos beam and Sonos subwoofer but I can't do that?

[@ProjectorScreen]

you can pair it to an external sound system and bypass the internal speaker; but cannot use the internal speaker and a separate subwoofer

[@LegendaryOldwarrior]

Someone want to buy my vava chroma so I can get this? Lol. Seriously though does this crush Vava or should I hang on to it? For the price point I like this one and I already have the free screen that came with my chroma.

[@ProjectorScreen]

We will be putting these two head-to-head in a shootout soon. The Chroma is a triple laser unit which should be giving it a big leg up, but the software/firmware that is currently on it is really limiting, hence why it came in lag at the LaserTV Showdown.

[@LegendaryOldwarrior]

@@ProjectorScreen That's pretty much why. Now I seem to not be running into the blur issues like others, maybe because of Roku? However the colors need fixing. I tried to deal with it, but I am a stickler and I just notice it now even when I try not too.

[@ProjectorScreen]

@@LegendaryOldwarrior The LS800 is a great option and is the best in several aspects, but still only single laser. If you want something more comparable (yet much better) to the Chroma, check out the Formovie Theater

[@mjh57]

Bummer its not 4K 120hz....☹

[@ProjectorScreen]

Nothing is yet in the UST world, but at 17ms at 4k/60 or 1080p/120, this is still a top choice for gamers

[@ask230]

So Epson selected you (again) to help launch their latest projector? I guess you can't really provide an unbiased view on the product then. That's too bad because that's really what viewers need. This on the other hand is more like a sales pitch.

[@ProjectorScreen]

I am sorry that you don't like our review. We are not a review channel, we are a reseller and one of Epson's largest, hence why they selected us to help launch this projector.

[@theroachmotel]

Just a suggestion... less hand movements

[@ProjectorScreen]

We tried zip tying my hands behind my back, but my enthusiasm caused them to break free.

[@dendenovich8366]

Better formovie

[@erichannedouche7933]

80 inches is possible !!!!

[@ProjectorScreen]

We haven’t yet tested it yet at that size, but that is what Epson is advertising.

[@o.h.r.rogers]

デカイ！？

[@frankduxvandamme2]

This review sounds a bit too much like an advertisement, not just for your own website, but for Epson as well. It also seems like you're afraid to say anything too negative because you don't want to lose Epson's business. Also, did anybody bother listening to this video before uploading it? You screwed up in the middle of your website "plug" that started at 9:09, and then you repeated your website "plug" at 9:20 but you didn't delete the previous attempt that you screwed up.

[@peterbunderla]

Buying an article because of the sponsored review is a mistake. I would never buy this projector just because of this review. He praise this projector because he got money to speak in this way.

[@ProjectorScreen]

There was absolutely zero compensation from Epson for us to make this video. They (nor anyone else) have never sponsored a review video that we’ve done.

[@FelixGaunt]

I'm pretty sure this is just an FYI Non-Sponsored video, they are working on an In-Depth review which will come out (hopefully) soon. Compared to some of the others out there that are being labeled as Full Reviews this is pretty clean and good. 👍

[@ProjectorScreen]

@@FelixGaunt Thank you! You are correct & stay tuned for our full, in-depth review.

[@DOGMA1138]

$3.5K for an El-Cheapo chipset with no HDMI 2.1 full bandwidth support meaning no 4K@120hz or eARC who the fuck would buy this garbage?

[@ProjectorScreen]

What UST that you know of supports 4k/120? I’ll save you the trouble of replying…. none do.