Ever wondered how much of a difference headers make? Well, nows your chance. 02' Subaru V7 STI Swap TOMEI unequal length KILLER B equal length Music is royalty free. Subscribe and like for more content.
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@TunedRAMS8 жыл бұрын
That repetitive music needs to go bro
@moto3246 жыл бұрын
RammedSane especially when it's playing over the revving
@carbontsx056 жыл бұрын
Yea i agree if ur gonna have sound clips y have music playing during it kinda defeats the purpose 🤷♂️
@Isaiah_Simwinga5 жыл бұрын
Very annoying and unnecessary music
@lokozoa18134 жыл бұрын
Totally
@theslimeylimey9 жыл бұрын
That background music that never shut up is quite annoying.
@jeffc00999 жыл бұрын
+theslimeylimey Yeah should have stopped that once you fired the car up, was super annoying.
@zanfingust8 жыл бұрын
+theslimeylimey yeah... lets compare sound of two different exhausts and suffocate the sound completely with shitty music so viewers can't hear shit
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
It's true, you live and learn. I will upload a link with the comparison section shortly with no music.
@robertarispe35868 жыл бұрын
for real
@knightatnight8 жыл бұрын
so .. still waiting
@RChero10108 жыл бұрын
The car sounds great, but there is this rhythmic mess in the background that makes it hard to hear.
@kubarydl11547 жыл бұрын
I agree.. no music, pls... :)
@djstatyk15406 жыл бұрын
Noah "Rhythmic mess"
@bFOURdwZEROlf5 жыл бұрын
get better ears
@jeffkim12718 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, but you should definitely remove music when trying to do a sound comparison so we can enjoy the tone from a subaru!
@xbexbe8 жыл бұрын
I loved the music. Next time just keep playing it the entire time instead of playing sound clips of your Subaru.
@akira3576 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@boogiestreet5946 жыл бұрын
ROFL
@DeadBeatDex7 жыл бұрын
The equal length headers sounds a lot more smoother, elegant, and like you said, more 4 cylinderish. I actually quite like it.
@maxxjettfilms63227 жыл бұрын
Dexter Yang the sound has really grown on me. I can't lie though, when I hear an unequal header suby pass by, I do get a little jealous
@Hot-1LE8 жыл бұрын
that dude can smack a mean bass but that shut needs to turn off during a sound comparison
@jeraldc.17296 жыл бұрын
Hahah i hear tha slap and pop all day..but yes LOL
@Thee_Sinner6 жыл бұрын
I knew there was going to be comments about the music, but I didn’t expect t to every single one lol
@leloodallasmultipass7 жыл бұрын
come on. this is a video about sound and yet you can't turn the music off for those critical parts? smh.
@farhadkay44608 жыл бұрын
Robin Willaim twin brother is a Subby owner??? awesome.
@BlizzardHockey44328 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing lol
@lindamcarthur73894 жыл бұрын
now that you mention it I see the resemblance!
@williamgrand97244 жыл бұрын
Both sound good, the killer b header sounds like a rally car which is dope af
@dave1986R4 жыл бұрын
They both sound awesome. I wasn’t aware that the uneven header lengths were what gave Subaru engines that distinctive rumble. From outside the cabin the even headers give the engine the sound tone but without the rumble, but at least it sounds different from a Honda or Mitsubishi engine.
@jaydnisevil7 жыл бұрын
could you possibly re release this video without the shitty music? You've released a sound comparison video and its hard to hear lol.
@buhrietoe6 жыл бұрын
Equal! My tomei elh are smooth and sing their song. They really grew on me.
@o88twitch88o7 жыл бұрын
can you upload this without the backgrouynd music please
@KillerBMotorsport8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this great comparison video. We shared it on our Facebook page.
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
You bet, thanks for sharing. I was very pleased with the build quality on your oil pickup and pan combo. I drive my subaru really hard and your headers had all the right materials and build quality I was looking for. They are handling the abuse wonderfully.
@jonnybgood28106 жыл бұрын
with equal sounds more like an honda but still very good sound but we can't forget he's got bigger cams and exhaust also
@thefirmament16167 жыл бұрын
I was shocked it didnt lose as much of the rumble as everyone said it would.. good sound..
@maxxjettfilms63227 жыл бұрын
assclown true! i have heard other equal length subarus and they sound far more regular 4 cylindery than mine. it may have a lot to do with my magnaflow muffler keeping it sounding deeper, not sure though
@Folderq5 жыл бұрын
Very good and detailed material. I wish everyone does it so perfect as You. Great job man !
@deevita74595 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, that video just convinced me not to go with equal length headers.
@whatiwant88988 жыл бұрын
Cabin noise- EL Exterior noise- UEL Personally I would still go for the EL because I'll be hearing it from the inside more than the outside and the performance benefits are great.
@timmyzhou16 жыл бұрын
Why with EL there is more noise in the cabin?
@sf23724 жыл бұрын
WOW thats a huge difference. Not too bad when moving though.
@AHavoc9072 жыл бұрын
Killer B makes the best sounding ELH, especially if you have a single exit exhaust and a good resonator and muffler setup. I hardly lost any rumble when I switched to Killer B.
@808Cummins6 жыл бұрын
Nice Honda sound you got going. For me I'd sacrifice a few hp for Subaru heritage lol.
@SycsFinest9 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great comparison. Killer B makes great headers. Enjoy the new hardware.
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
thanks, they have been holding up very well.
@ultralaserblast3818 жыл бұрын
i got an Equal length header on my 2011 wrx. still has rumble but just not as much BASS and resonance in the cabin. sounds great imo its not as annoying for the daily drive. and still sounds lke a subaru. its sounds like nothing else. maybe close to a classic vw bug but with a turbo and bigger displacement and no air cooling! lol.
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more
@chickenricesteak5415 жыл бұрын
Equal length sounds better. Unequal sounds like a want to be equal length.
@AndrewB234 жыл бұрын
The header wrap is what probably aided in cracking your header.
@extrabass2876 жыл бұрын
at high speeds you can't tell the differnece but when its idal you can
@XspeakerXforXmarsX6 жыл бұрын
i really don't feel like you lost all that much subi sound when you were doing actual rolling pulls, in neutral you can tell there is a significant difference but you still hear the distinct boxer sound. i don't know what everyone is hearing. seen a couple of comments saying "generic equal length" but honestly i like both and it still sounds awesome to me. so my 2 cent verdict, more performance and durability for a tone change in neutral? done
@XspeakerXforXmarsX6 жыл бұрын
lol @ the music. what did we really learn today maxx
@XspeakerXforXmarsX6 жыл бұрын
especially in the cabin you cant hear the rumble :/ its like she cleared her throat or something
@sevenpointsixtwo8 жыл бұрын
Ill take minimal Hp loss to keep the Unequal exhaust sound over the generic equal length exhaust sound.
@donrowe71947 жыл бұрын
sevenpointsixtwo its not just a matter of sound. look up ringland failures in subaru engines...uel headers can contribute to that issue. el headers are just better for the overall health of any ej engine
@sevenpointsixtwo7 жыл бұрын
Don Rowe re-read your comment,your contradicting yourself
@OpTicBossaru7 жыл бұрын
EL= Equal Length UEL= Unequal Length he said: UEL headers can contribute to ringland failure. EL headers are just better for the overall health of any EJ engine He said it correctly, and did not contradict himself.
@flakey78327 жыл бұрын
same
@dragongroupp5 жыл бұрын
bloody oath its what made the rex
@volksbugly7 жыл бұрын
that sound at 3:34 made me like the equal length header more.
@tnyce6164 жыл бұрын
I think I’ve watched the video, over 100 times, I love the killer b headers, and can’t wait to finally get one, I purposely bought a 2011 wrx for those headers 😅😅🤷🏾♂️
@subiflexwrxsti78308 жыл бұрын
It's now 3am.... and I've made up my mind on what headers to get, UNEQUAL LENGTH !!!!! #keeptherumble
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, there really is no wrong answer here. I have come to love both types of headers for different reasons
@ScoobsL6 жыл бұрын
SubiFLEX WRX STi hell yeah
@sleeper.simulant73275 жыл бұрын
SubiFLEX WRX STi yeah, if you want slower spool, a peaky barrow torque curve and overall slower, more inefficient car that’s more likely to crack a piston ring on the side with longer runners cause exhaust air temps will be through the roof....
@BlueHokage8 жыл бұрын
wrapping headers does trap the heat into the actual header, as apposed to allowing it to vent off into the atmosphere... which is why people do it. Problem is, if your motor is actually running hotter, thats a ton of extra stress on the header.
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
Its a good tradeoff to wrap the headers. Less underhood temperature and keeping the heat in the headers increases exhaust efficiency. Thereby increasing turbo performance. Since going with the stronger headers, I have had no problems, only positive
@loomspace4 жыл бұрын
The spotty heat wrap will definitely contribute to imbalanced heating and cooling -> cracking.
@dgsams6 жыл бұрын
Well made video.... I love the way you did it..... I wish ppl did this head to head style videos. Especially with sound videos.... Like wanting to compare like a liteSPEC vs a Challenge S2000 exhaust... Again well done! *bow*
@zedxrom78676 жыл бұрын
Having heatwrap around the manifolds will make them retain heat instead of losing it, that's why you have cracks in it, but we all need an excuse to throw new parts on our cars anyway :P
@maxxjettfilms63226 жыл бұрын
ZEDXROM retaining heat in the manifold increases exhaust velocity which in turn makes more power. It's nice to have a header that can cope with the heat of a built motor and wrapping.
@Ryan-sm6zd4 жыл бұрын
I have a similar set up in my wagon. V7 sti 6 speed gearing with a 2.5 hybrid torque match together really nice
@maxxjettfilms63224 жыл бұрын
It is a sweet setup for sure!
@DjJtown7 жыл бұрын
The Killer B exhaust has a beefier sound, not typical of Subaru, but that's what will make the car stand out. Good choice.
@maxxjettfilms63227 жыл бұрын
DjJtown thank you! I have been very happy with the killer b headers. They have withstood a lot of abuse and are holding up perfectly
@jasongtivr65 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most of these car videos have music playing in the back ground. I’ve watched videos where they have their stereos playing while telling us to listen to the cams or exhaust. Makes no sense. But either I’d say it was a prefect comparison video. There’s no way I’d give up that Sti rumble sound. It’s so iconic. That unequal length exhaust is why they have the best sounding four cylinder every made. Please stop ruining it😢
@alexz0004 жыл бұрын
Old headers sound better, but new headers sound more crisper.
@chronic_adventure6 жыл бұрын
GREAT SOUND COMPARISON
@EJL20046 жыл бұрын
Really doesn't sound that bad! A lot of people complain that it sounds like a honda civic, but clearly they're blowing smoke out of their ass. I love the UEL sound, but I'm certainly not against the ELH. When I finally do go for a header I might just go equal length. I hear from some people that it will to a degree provide longer life to the engine, particularly cyl 4 in the EJ25x. I'm curious to know if thats true or not. Something to do with carbon build up. Going for a turbo back exhaust after Christmas on my 2011 wrx hatch, and having a hard time deciding which exhaust to go with. I should probably find a good e-tuner in the area before deciding. Grimmspeed downpipe looks like the ultimate for an internal wastegate set up, but I'm not sure what the consequences would be using a Cobb OTS stage 2 tune vs a non devorced dp. Great vid, the music really wasn't as bad as some where griping about.
@flakey78327 жыл бұрын
unequal is love, unequal is life
@HEKTIC4588 жыл бұрын
Great video But unequal length sounds better
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
The new sound really has grown on me and i really do like it a lot. I can't lie though, when i hear an unequal length header suby drive by, a tinge of jealousy creeps in. It sounds cool.
@brokenbaja8 жыл бұрын
excellent video!
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
thankyou!
@matthewautton14727 жыл бұрын
you can still hear some of the boxer sound. its quite nice.
@xXturbo86Xx8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like shit with the new one. Anyway, i really think you shouldn't wrap them up like that, you should wrap each individual pipe. What this thing does is preventing the heat to radiate (as much as possible) so that you get a cooler space around them and better thermal efficiency (hotter gas has more volume thus spins the turbo faster thus less lag better performance etc etc), So, now you're trapping a lot of heat in the space between the two pipes and they will probably be even hotter than the old ones. Don't be lazy man, do it properly, there's a reason they wrap each pipe and not a bunch of them together.
@joebrown21975 жыл бұрын
The nextinlin
@SupermanwithaD8 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison video !!! I like the equal length headers more actually.
@miketilton45618 жыл бұрын
I do as well. I was not sure if I would or not. but after a while with them, I love it.
@augustortiz8 жыл бұрын
I cant believe im saying this, but i think the new headers sound better if you are planning to use it daily. I sometimes get tired of having the rumble, specially when i turn the car on at 5am
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
I have a friend three houses down from me. Sometimes shortly after starting my car he texts me "good morning!" Still pretty loud, although pulse pressure inside the cabin is much better for daily driving
@augustortiz8 жыл бұрын
+maxxjett films i replaced my bugeyes stock seats for 2013 sti seats and i still feel the rumble tingling my spine, im getting sort of tired of it! Might consider an equal length header soon thanks to your video
@Raudi_5pot7 жыл бұрын
my perrin el header sounds amazing compared to the stock annoying subaru rumble. even without a tune it feels much better.
@IainB9 жыл бұрын
Great video and comparison!
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@harrisondodge69568 жыл бұрын
dude this vid is amazing, how do you only have 215 subs?
@revym33669 жыл бұрын
Only thing I can think of that makes this worth it...is the fact that compared to Tomeis EL header is the header design...since a stock header is 4 to 1 & kb is 4 to 1 is able to maintain the distinct low rumble note that equalizes a bit up top...Tomei being 4 to 2 to 1 just sounds awful imo. Good purchase.
@paul47335 жыл бұрын
The killer b headers are perfect but it would sound better with a tomei catback exhaust
@AwesomeBob7 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Robin Williams had a WRX.
@zachlee37355 жыл бұрын
nice comparison of background music........so damn helpful smh
@Copedawg_3408 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I've seen you around town a couple times w/that plate. Sounds great and I'm sure you're really happy with the performance gains!
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
I get around, and its a unique car
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
And yes, I do like it a lot
@MrJordanowski6 жыл бұрын
Loved the background music, keep it up!
@offdutydan93468 жыл бұрын
good job man! great video!
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@anthonyf45256 жыл бұрын
Great video. Yea you lose the rumble that that exhaust note you now have just screams i'm fast and not being restricted.
@maxxjettfilms63226 жыл бұрын
Anthony F i thought the exact same thing😎
@AndrewB234 жыл бұрын
The power differences from el to uel headers isn't very noticeable, the benefits for boxer engines are just cooling down those two cylinders which is beneficial but not fully if you're just running stock power, he could also help by not wrapping the headers because it's known to make headers have a higher chance for cracking. The worst part is it makes it sound like a Honda, I'm pretty sure that's why the brand is called killer bee, it has a buzz instead of a rumble.
@philippayne66558 жыл бұрын
great video . thanks. (you do look like Robin Williams though)
@UploadATutorial6 жыл бұрын
Well your power gains with Equal length headers are way better. But Unequal does make a better sound than equal lengths do.
@goracks697 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparo! Makes me wonder what a GT86 sounds like with unequal length headers. I personally woulda sacrificed a few horsepower for the sound of unequal length headers, for the same reason I went with GT takeoff exhausts instead of an aftermarket set up for my V6 Mustang. Yeah the aftermarket stuff would've freed up to an additional 10+hp, but it sounded so raspy, whereas the GT takeoffs still added power while giving me the sound I want. If I wanted all power, I wouldn't have bought a v6 Stang. Afterall, I live with the exhaust ALL the time, but I only floor it sometimes. So Im always stuck with the sound. But rarely need ALL the horsepower I can get.
@bFOURdwZEROlf5 жыл бұрын
It sounds less bogged down because they're an equal length. the turbo spools up quicker
@OggaDugga4 жыл бұрын
I came back for the music. I want to slap bass
@l700wrx8 жыл бұрын
sounds complicated but nice sound,not too raspy like mine is
@maryburgess92935 жыл бұрын
Killer b for the win
@adrianl67546 жыл бұрын
I didn’t notice the music until i started reading the comments then it started to to drive me slowly insane. But other then that’s nice bugeye and mods
@Thr33.Sid3z8 жыл бұрын
For $2000 They better be good. I just couldnt do it. For $700-$1200 you can have a completely custom Manifold fabricated by the best Fabricator in ur city! DOC RACE here in Portland would fab up a fresh ass set of UELs for $1k and u'd not only keep the rumble, but not have to worry about quality!
@sleeper.simulant73275 жыл бұрын
Evol_AF EL power gains are worth it though
@Wakos_HQ8 жыл бұрын
Like watching food channel.. but i like it 😋
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@SpicyBurger2 жыл бұрын
Can't hear anything over the music
@dmo.amgc6337 жыл бұрын
That's also a nice sound on you bov what type is it ... I'm watching as I'm thinking to buy a set of headers to now I see this VS everywhere now too decide.. great video mate
@thimble2888 жыл бұрын
MUCH better sound, the BRZ/FRS/GT86 sounds a lot better with EL headers too.
@thimble2888 жыл бұрын
***** You still get that pancake motor chuff with equal length headers, it's just refined a little. I've learned to hate that "subie growl", because whenever I turn to look I end up seeing something out of Ken Block's douchiest wet dream. A lot of the time it sounds like an airplane that can't take off to me. I hate most Harley's I hear too. Sounds like a big wet fart.
@sleeper.simulant73275 жыл бұрын
Eric Leippe I’m with you. I live where WRX’s are every other car, and it’s always some dumb kid who’s straight piped it. You can hear it climbing a hill from over a mile away. It’s ridiculous...
@thesniperofcs8 жыл бұрын
the sound of the unequal is better, the performance of the equal is better. can I go with dual exhaust 😜
@primozdornik80695 жыл бұрын
why did you put the music on the exhaust sound??????
@mrmurray86987 жыл бұрын
Equal sounds better imo, the tomei was more raspier which I don't like
@djstatyk15406 жыл бұрын
I just had exhausted work done to my 92 legacy 2.2 I'll post videos soon
@Boxer79117 жыл бұрын
Vtec just kicked in YO!
@Matt_B987 жыл бұрын
it sounds way better, sounds more like a subaru
@jaysheeze7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin Williams step brother. 😂 👍
@Watchingyou-daily8 жыл бұрын
You are losing the boxer sound.
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
Yes, in my quest for more power and durability, I have lost some boxer rumble
@FusterIsBased7 жыл бұрын
I'd take performance and reliability over sound any day.
@husseinkurdi76256 жыл бұрын
I notice the new one have smaller ports did you compare the ports??
@HoweDoYouDo19995 жыл бұрын
Haha that wrx has seen it all but yet I’d stick to what subaru knows best and that happens to be a rumble ready system😂
@MrPantopantalones8 жыл бұрын
Killer B holy hell the music is so bad. :-D Great video though!
@boostedbuiltgarage8 жыл бұрын
Not as different as I thought they'd be, def a bit more ricer-ish, but still has that sound still. I'm in the same mind-set, trying to decide whether I lose the mad unequal sound for more performance lol
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. it sounds different at idle and from inside the car, but outside, you can definitely tell it's still a subaru
@boostedbuiltgarage8 жыл бұрын
Haha well that's all that matters!😌
@stugats778 жыл бұрын
great vid did you have to adjust the tune after fitting the new headers?
@maxxjettfilms63228 жыл бұрын
I did not have to tune the car after the install, but I did get it tuned shortly after because I also changed out my boost controller. I would recommend a tune to maximize performance and reliability though
@SteveBlues877 жыл бұрын
Equal headers give more power than unequal
@codithheretic1109 жыл бұрын
great vid!
@sflbahari4 жыл бұрын
car sounds great, btw where can i get that shirt
@maxxjettfilms63224 жыл бұрын
They don't make it anymore, but search fwd sucks and some different but not as good versions come up
@jabadahut504 жыл бұрын
the equal length headers sound good but nowhere near as good as the unequal lengths. The unequal lengths add a lot of character to the note... the equal length ones just sound like another loud turbo car on the road.
@oneilclarke84946 жыл бұрын
Mrs Doubtfire actually had a son....wow
@HoweDoYouDo19995 жыл бұрын
if it’s a Subaru it shouldn’t have to be equal it should be unequal it’s where it’s character comes from without that sound it loses a bit of itself 😂
@69mrsteveo8 жыл бұрын
Better for the turbo, no pulse.
@ProVision31878 жыл бұрын
Thats why when you blow it you rebuild it with tougher internals.
@sleeper.simulant73275 жыл бұрын
Better for ringlands, keeps EAT’s lower, especially on the side that had longer runners.
@mrmurray86987 жыл бұрын
Why the hell are they cracking? Are you using anti lag launch control often?
@jeffreydlazar7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. In the future when making a video focused on sound, it would be preferable to leave out the background music.
@maxxjettfilms63227 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Lazar thank you, lesson learned
@owlcoast15138 жыл бұрын
It didn't really change the rumble that much
@Jradi4Me5 жыл бұрын
Unequal sounds way better in my opinion
@05EVORS6 жыл бұрын
If I keep my Sti ill end up blowing a wad on ELH and oil pan/pick up, EWG and delete Tumblers, My old Evo was funner w 4G63 all those motors needed was cams and a throttle body to run great. These scoobs need way more $$$ to run hard
@maxxjettfilms63226 жыл бұрын
05EVORS true! I have always been jealous of evos for that very thing