Equality of Opportunity vs Equality of Outcome

Exploring "Equality of Opportunity vs Equality of Outcome" and how it relates to modern social issues including "equal pay" between men and women
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[@mitali3951]

Equality of opportunity is when everyone have the right to make and upload their videos on youtube. Their views will depend on their content. But equality of outcome is no matter what you are uploading youtube will give you same number of views as other creaters. How was my example??😁

[@matijabo]

I get it... finally 👍😆

[@mattygroves21478]

Yep your example perfectly describes something that does not happen. Could you also tell us about spider babies? I believe they have the head of a human baby but the body of a large spider. I think we're in agreement, Equality of Outcome does not exist, and is merely a boogeyman that millennial goofballs warn all and sundry about.

[@sophon238]

Equality of opportunity is a logically bankrupt idea. It's impossible to ensure equality of opportunity.

[@jamesmillegan8769]

@@sophon238 and equality of outcome is equally as bankrupt because it requires that something is taken from someone else that maybe worked harder for that outcome but inclusiveness requires that the harder working person give up some of their earnings to level the outcome for someone who might not have given as much effort

[@sophon238]

@@jamesmillegan8769 essentially one reaches the conclusion that 'fairness' is an illusion necessary to maintain civility. Eventually we'll return to our uninhibited ruthless and savage ways. Get it whichever way you can by hook or crook.

[@ThiccBirdBoi]

OMG!!!! Thank you, YES!!! Equality of outcome impacts freedom of choice. If you force a workforce distribution to be equal 50 50, you will always be forcing someone to do something that they don't want to, or forcing someone to give up something that they don't want to.

[@sophon238]

Equality of opportunity is a logically bankrupt concept. It doesn't exist.

[@cristi0291]

The king lobster would be proud of you !

[@sarthakgadge5223]

oh dude you nailed that reference.

[@josejavieralvarezsanchez1946]

I had never seen such a good, concise, and clear explanation of a social topic. I'm studying for my Political Science exam for tomorrow, and this video was incredibly helpful! Thank you very much!!

[@nathanmccoy2159]

One of the biggest reasons for the pay difference between men and women is scalability. Women tend to prefer to work with people, like a nurse for example. Men prefer to work with things, let's use software developers as an example. As a nurse, you can only help so many people over a given time. But as a software developer, your work can simultaneously impact the lives of millions around the globe. The more lives you impact the more income you generate the more money you make.

[@askaboutfreedom6382]

Thanks for watching the video. Like I said in the video, let me know other example of "Equality of Outcome". I think it's an interesting topic to explore and educate people with.

[@tusharbisht2974]

You have a handwritten note on Equality of opportunity and Equality of Outcome . Please help me I have to submit my Assignment tomorrow . I have no answer for this question . Help me I am Tushar Bisht from Dwarka More , New Delhi

[@luxe2858]

@@tusharbisht2974 did you ever pass

[@sophon238]

Equality of opportunity is a silly concept.

[@luxe2858]

@@sophon238 pretty bad opinion. you mind explaining

[@sophon238]

@@luxe2858 for equality of opportunity to be somewhat possibly plausible we'd have to have equal access to opportunities. Which is impossible. Rich people will always have more access than poor people, likewise beautiful people will have more access to opportunities than ugly people. Equality of opportunity is nonsense.

[@user-uj5zc6vx2k]

"Equal opportunity” laws and policies require that individuals be judged on their qualifications as individuals, without regard to race, sex, age, etc. “Affirmative action” requires that they be judged with regard to such group membership, receiving preferential or compensatory treatment in some cases to achieve a more proportional “representation” in various institutions and occupations.

[@victorvanvolt8425]

What about "Unequal opportunity" when you see that the name of the applicant is Tyrone and you assume a stereotype and not hire her. Or when you could not buy a house or make a business in a area because the bank would not loan to black people, going to rent only arias, and now your grandchild is offered a scholarship because an affirmative action program and a way to finally brake the cycle but some people say this is unfair because all people should be equal and redlining ended in the 74' (50 years ago).

[@MAGApepe]

:)),,, finally a normal person

[@MAGApepe]

@@maxfactor4209 all thanks to the alt left cancel culture

[@murph1329]

ANSWER: equality of opportunity = freedom | equality of outcome = mass graves

[@icegamer8973]

Equality of opportunity = communism

[@murph1329]

@@icegamer8973 I'd have to disagree. Everyone should be afforded the opportunity to succeed. It's up to them to to seize it. Whereas equality of outcome promises equal results regardless of merit.

[@icegamer8973]

@@murph1329 I agree with you. What I am saying is the more qualified person should get the job.

[@daliaabedalal6604]

@@murph1329 this is not true she clearly stated that everyone is giving equal opportunity to succeed as they wish the outcome depends on the field u are in and how u chose to do this job or take the opportunity, if you are unable to or chose to not complete a task as well as another it is for certain the outcome for you will be differ as well as your opportunity when u apply to uni for example if your application lacks effort lacks knowledge and you don’t meet the requirements needed to get into that specific uni compared to another who does have this knowledge did put in that effort and has the grades needed then ofcourse your opportunity would be affected. This is the same in the workforce industry it depends on you everyone is given the same opportunity depends on how you take it. This could be argued in more detail that some people lack opportunity as a result of an impairment or lack of opportunity due to discrimination but nevertheless this is illegal and laws and legislations are implemented to try and stop this

[@daliaabedalal6604]

@@murph1329 equality of outcome does not promise the same results if you do not do the job properly

[@richardporter9845]

Brilliant way of explaining it. Really helped the way you broke it down

[@johnnynick3621]

In a "just society" there is no requirement for either equal outcomes or equal opportunities. In a "just society" the only equality you should expect is equal treatment under the law. We should ALL be subject to the same rules and those rules should ONLY be structured to protect individual rights.

[@zTorrentiaLzzz]

It's so hard to share this information without being labelled a sexist. I don't know where to turn

[@u2ooby]

This is the best explanation I've heard about inequality...Thank you!

[@nataliyashtym2813]

This was an explanation of equity

[@akaku9]

@@nataliyashtym2813 if those kids could read, they would be very upset right now

[@hi.val.design]

Lovely video. I am surprised at how unpopular it is. Definitely underrated. But yeah thank you for this extremely nice way of explaining things helped a lot.

[@thedudeabides1445]

Really good video and a great topic as well. Individualism vs collectivism would be another good one. Keep it up, you're good at this :)

[@MAGApepe]

oh i guess you mean freedom vs communism,,,, freedom wins :))

[@thedudeabides1445]

I don't advocate for business owners as a group, I advocate for business owners as individuals. Every business is different and has to follow the rules for that type of business, to group them together is only useful for statistics and things like that. I was talking about affirmative action and those types of things where certain groups are given advantages Instead of being judged based on merit alone.

[@thedudeabides1445]

So would you judge the whole group for the actions of one individual, or would you judge the individual for his actions?

[@thedudeabides1445]

Layoffs happen all the time for various reasons. Rent hikes and wages are a product of supply and demand and don't necessarily have anything to do with greed. You have no idea about economics except what you heard from some marxists. Move to a socialist country if that's what you want, there's a few to choose from but you won't move.

[@thedudeabides1445]

You can be a business owner yourself, I am. I do home renovations and am my only employee. I make profit for myself and have never had a complaint in 25 years. Is that acceptable?

[@ahmedbellankas2549]

Why you stopped making videos,your this videos was great.

[@sarthakgadge5223]

Thanks a lot for explaining this clearly, as there is so much going on now regarding this particular topic.

[@WalterDavidRiffmon]

Thanks for this very clear explanation. I've mentioned these opposite ideas to people recently and I can tell they have no idea what I'm talking about. It's so easy to sell equality of outcome and that's why people are being fooled. After all, it seems so fair!

[@jennapritchard5937]

You made a strong argument based on a set of values held by those who believe the free market system is the best arbiter of value (worth) but failed to argue why that value system should be primary. It's almost like you've never considered any other value system. I would consider that contempt prior to investigation.

[@garybobst9107]

You can have all the opportunity you want,but you're limited by equality of outcome. Take from those who are more successful, and give it to those who fail. Nobody rises higher than anyone else.

[@Mythics1]

I found it hard to grasp firmly until I listened to you explain it.

[@joelhusted]

Based, factual, accurate information, thank you

[@gilbertadam7288]

I found this explanation extremely helpful, thank you! :)

[@shivamshrotriy]

thanks

[@TopGun_-]

Imagine if every NFL team were told, at the beginning of the season, that all teams were going to be given a record of 8-8, every player will receive the same salary, and every team will get a Super Bowl trophy. Now, in your head, imagine the utter decrease in effort that would be put forth by the players. Who the hell would risk getting injured knowing that they would receive the same result at the end of the season. Imagine how this would completely “DESTROY” the NFL and its excellence. Another example... Imagine at the beginning of the school year, the teachers at one school tells all their students that there will no longer be A’s B’s or F’s, etc. every student will get a C+ average at the end of the year. Could you eventually see the effort amongst the students decline drastically? Could you understand that this would eventually cause the reputation and stature of the school to become an utter failure? If you hated a school, this would be the sure fire way to destroy that school. If you hated the NFL , this would be a sure fire way to destroy the league. If you truly hated America and wanted to destroy it from within .... well you get my drift. WAKE UP you dimwits!

[@jaysaini955]

Now this…

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​​@@jaysaini955well here in saudi arabia, the locals are still payed higher than foreign workers even though the locals work less.

[@jaysaini955]

@@jirehla-ab1671 Huh?

[@vendrickthegreat7774]

Equality of opportunity: Everyone is able to get something, but not necessarily be able to use it. Equality of outcome: Everyone is able to use something, but not necessarily get something. Is what I think.

[@smacdsmaccers]

Equality of Outcome is where you have a box of pizza and you divide the same amount of slices to a child and an adult. The child has more than he needs while the adult has less than he needs.

[@swiftymcfly]

Thanks for explaining this!

[@rolandfrerking2093]

Believing equality of opportunity is in any way different from equality of outcome is a fallacy. When someone proposes equality of opportunity we think only of future outcomes. When someone proposes equalitly of outcome we think only of future outcomes. In both cases we ignore the fact that equality of opportunity encompases the imposition of equality of outcome upon the immediately prior outcome as well as all prior outcomes. We thereby judge all prior outcomes in history as failures of providing equality of opportunity thereby reducing the basis of judgments of justice, to equality and nothing else. Justice, however, is much better than equality. Equality of outcomes or opportunities is more comprehensive than justice and thereby encompasses injustice.

[@aishaa6012]

Thank you for explaining in a very understandable way.

[@suhailq2385]

very insightful!

[@vee9882]

Of course it makes sense, why do people fight this concept without putting much thought into it? This topic is pinning men and women against each other, if we looked at its logic we would come together and support one another. Outcome should be based on competence.

[@Drag0nStorm1]

Shouldn't all the base metrics be decided by comparing PER HOUR wage, and of same job position? I really don't think anyone is comparing engineering jobs versus human resource jobs, and using that as a metric for disparity.

[@MrFree006]

I think that wealth might not lead to happiness, that's why someone people might use their wealth to make others as unhappy as them.

[@jonathandjing1065]

Wow feminist should watch this but I guess they hate the truth

[@PedroC-hk6po]

Why would any company choose to hire people based on Equality of outcome??? Its stupid...

[@GeneralRitZ]

Great explanation!

[@allinthefamiliy3122]

Well explained and by a beautiful lady as well, (i'm a man you know and like to express that) I like the built-up of this explanation from a hypothetical class room example to a real life example. Definitely an added value but if it will be enough for and exange in value in the free market that's the question but it is well received.

[@medusaskull9625]

There should only be one equality, that is equality of the law. The law of poker for example, everyone has to follow the same rule. Or the game of monopoly, the rule of the game is fair, everyone follow it, people are happy playing. When the rule of the system is rigged, everyone suffered. You see, it's not about opportunity or out come. People are stupid keep on fighting for opportunity or outcome, instead, they should fighting for equal treatment of the law. Regardless of which system you live under, if the rule is rigged, society will find people become unproductive.

[@unvaccinatedAndPureBlood]

Hard to find a female like this anymore. A lot of feminists out there! Thanks for the video.

[@jayjackson651]

Great video and great explanation

[@atli7604]

Great explanation. Thanks a lot. :)

[@kiannarogers8089]

thank you for the video:) I'm a student and I absolutely agree with your view on equal outcome (given the evidence) but in terms of your mentioning of free market "value for value" where you implying that equality of opportunity is not something we should strive for? and that the current experience of discriminations based on sex, race, orientation or cultural background are not a result of societal systems but solely media manipulation? I don't want to misinterpret the spirit of this video and I'm genuinely interested in your responds (if available) lol I know this is like two years three years later

[@rooracer78]

Thanks, clear and well put!

[@Texasjim2007]

Equity is like sending a track team to the Olympics which the faster runners were no more likely to be picked than the slower runners, or African American fighter pilots being restricted from fighting in WW2 in order to give more opportunities to white pilots who weren't as competent in flying planes, or restricting Jewish physicists from working in Germany in order to give non-Jews more university jobs in atomic physics. Being out of touch with reality no matter who you want to help be successful is not good for anybody's outcome because it hurts the whole team from being successful.

[@granolabar2732]

Great video, clear explanation

[@karlatravieso5321]

thank you!! this helped me understand the concept

[@IsarAzam]

Thanks

[@starbase218]

Not an easy message but a good one.

[@whizzingbye]

Smart and pretty big ups

[@isocraticparty5595]

Why did you stop making videos? Noooo. More content. Please. More.

[@aadventures2604]

I was just watching your video to help with some examples for an upcoming test in Political science. Unfortunately, despite the laws against unequal pay, there are many jobs where men are making more, including female-dominated roles like a teacher. The U.S labor department has done many studies on this, so I find it troubling that you couldn't find this information on your own. Please google, US Department of Labor, "Most Common Occupations for Women," to find a clear chart that shows the income-earning decadences.

[@xboxadz]

Still trying to locate this information. I've found a median perspective, nothing else. Can you link please. Thanks

[@SanjayChandraS]

By that logic, why are organizations hiring more men than women? If women wages are low, then less men should be hired.

[@Alex-kk8is]

Sanjay Chandra S competence and intelligence over gender?

[@shawnpavlik1293]

Please find me the data showing that equally qualified, experienced, and educated men are making more money as a teacher than women. Not happening. The same is true of other professions. If you look at equally qualified, experienced and educated men and women, they make the same money.

[@paulmark992]

How many hours are the women and men working? What exact jobs are they working?

[@abdullahisaid8873]

What an amazing tutorial.

[@Ylemonade]

Is raising children a form of "providing value"?

[@maxk5741]

of course its providing value, where are you going with this

[@richardporter9845]

In the buying of food/clothes and contributing to the economy yes, but the baby can't work himself as well, he's a baby. So someone has to provide value for that baby and that babies parent will have to provide value to get pay in return to afford those clothes and food. Can't pay someone for reproducing that's just crazy

[@brianlaudrupchannel]

Most important job

[@dahbeh9975]

team-work y'all.

[@hellyeah7682]

Impressive very nice, i don't need to see paul Allen's explanation

[@vendrickthegreat7774]

Highschool should be outcome, university + college should be opportunity.

[@craughan]

Beautiful .....and that is in the mind,,, it flows into the body Beautiful

[@johnallen1672]

Thank you.

[@Ellon62]

I think the problem we face, in any debate that in some way discusses equality of opportunity or equality of outcome, is that equality of opportunity does not exist. In your example: Yes, the students had the same teachers, the same lectures. But what if a student is sick for half a year? That student will have to put in a lot more effort to achieve the same as a student who was able to attend regularly. What about a student whose family member died the day prior to the test? He will be distracted and will likely achieve a bad grade. What about students who have (medically recognized) learning disabilities? They will have to put in a lot more effort as well. Students going through breaks ups? Student who lack metacognitive skills to regulate their own learning? I can go on for hours like this. Equality of opportunity does not exist, and we can't always assume that it's the choices a person made that led them to where they are in life.

[@xboxadz]

Really just sounds like one big excuse 😂 its called go spend another year in college....I did. I didn't have to I chose too I'm not going to look back at the year I lost people even if it was my final exam year.... Your argument is moronic unless you're speaking about a universal income which you haven't mentioned once. You're saying now that intelligent people should be on the same level as people with learning difficulty how the fuck would anything be accomplished... Unless at an alarmingly low rate go back to cuckoo land 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Carl-up5uy]

You’ve got a medical condition and you have only 1 week to live! You have a choice! A) The doctor who got the best grades and went on to be the best in their field. Regardless of the perceived advantages they may have had. Or B) The doctor who had ok grades and was an ok doctor. But was given preferential treatment because of a perceived disadvantage to become a doctor. True equality of opportunity and outcome may or may not exist. There are many unpredictable variables with each situation. However, it doesn’t justify not having the best person filling the role. Oh sorry Albert Einstein but we don’t want you at our university or to publish any of your work because we already have a male and need to make our quote of others before deciding to hire another male... Humanity will stagnate if you start giving everyone gold medals!

[@alekhyapatra3367]

That's the point, I have to accept the body and conditions I'm born in and do not expect to be taken care of by others nor take care of others without my self interest first. I don't want equality of outcome at all, in fact I hate it with all my heart, I want to own my blessings and curses with full strength and fight or compete with all my might, compete to trade and exchange values with others. I love equality of rights so that I can at least have the choice to fulfill my objective even if I have to work 100x harder or sacrifice 100x more. If someone truly loves me, then it would be their self interest to take care of me but I CAN'T NEVER FORCE ANYONE TO LOVE ME, THAT IS NOT MORAL, THAT IS PURE EVIL! 😕

[@Yash-vm4ts]

Great Video!!!

[@postnothing1]

shes prettty

[@ZakiSp]

Great video!

[@emberd-l795]

Ah but people do not have an equality of opportunity in a capitalist society. A few people have massive head starts by being born to billionaire parents, get all the schooling in the world, get all the business opportunities in the world, and succeed because of that. Meanwhile another person will be born to a family that doesn’t have a cent to their name. This baby if subject to the right advantages could just as easily succeed as baby one. But because they were born to a very poor family, they do not get access to good education, they get no business opportunities, (this could be because of lack of education and the poor area not having any opportunities and the family not being able to afford to move) and because of these factors, this person grows up to be poor and uneducated and unable to get a job good enough to live off of or maybe no job at all. This is what capitalists call equality of opportunity. Even though these people objectively have extremely different opportunities. This causes a vast gap of wealth inequality which has nothing to do with the individual merit of these two people. And everything to do with the resources they were given due to the circumstances they were born into. I want an actual meritocracy. I actually want real equality of opportunity. I want everyone to be born with the resources to get a good education and to peruse their passions. I think this system would be a truly merit based one. How far someone gets is no longer based on historic wealth gathered by dubious means and would now allow all people to go out and truly give their value to society rather then having all of their energy devoted to being a wage slave working excessive hours a day just to make enough to continue to have a roof over their head, not leaving any time for perusing passions and working on things that could actually positively impact the world rather then just working to continue living while the owner steals all the surplus value you make further cementing your position as a wage slave. So yes, I agree that equality of outcome is bad. What we don’t agree on is that equality of opportunity is good. I actually think equality of opportunity is good. You just pretend to.

[@shawnpavlik1293]

This might seem to be true, but in reality, something like 80-85% of millionaires are self-made, i.e. they did NOT get the money from their parents.

[@georgiomouawad4329]

so if i am from a poor family and make my way to the top because of my hardwork and my knowledge i shouldn't let my future children to use my wealth?

[@emberd-l795]

@@georgiomouawad4329 No one should be born poor in the first place. We have more then enough wealth to spread around to make everyone well off. Instead, it’s all hoarded at the top for a few people to get ridiculously and disgustingly rich while letting billions of innocent people go hungry and struggle through no fault of their own. If you are born unlucky and work your way up, that is admirable, but there are plenty of people who were born in a similar position who have worked just as hard, if not harder and got no where. Getting rich isn’t about hard work. It’s about manipulating the system to your own ends. And those ends generally involve stepping on other people to climb further up the ladder. Meanwhile some people are born with elevators. The ladder should be dismantled. I believe in a meritocracy. I don’t think your lot in life should be determined by the luck of who your parents are. I think everybody should be given the means to peruse their passions and work with the fullest extent of education resources they need to achieve that. This would be a true meritocracy. There have been an uncountable amount of people who would have changed the world in great way, invented new technology, medicine, art, all sorts of things, that have only been hampered by being born poor. This needs to change, and it can. I don’t believe in equality of outcome. I believe in equality of opportunity. And in order to get equality of opportunity people have to start in the same place, with the resources at their disposal to actually be able to achieve their dreams.

[@emberd-l795]

@@shawnpavlik1293 bullshit. Cite your sources. I believe you are pulling that statistic out of your ass. Feel free to prove me wrong.

[@shawnpavlik1293]

@@emberd-l795 By the way, the figure was 88%. Pretty much what I quoted.

[@edh3881]

Equal pay? Why chicks can't do most of the same work as a man. When a chick at works asks me to help her say move something I always say "why? equal pay equal work"

[@edh3881]

Just today I got this pallet that needs to be moved into this ladies department. I told her to come get it. She told me to bring it over. Equal pay equal work. Blah blah blah..... Oh she's seven months pregnant. I didn't get her pregnant. So what's that mean? She don't have to do equal work for 9 months? When can I take it easy for nine months and still get paid equally?

[@flamiemushawatu583]

This is awsome

[@FormulaProg]

Where can I find a women like this?

[@alexgalitschenko3633]

99% that she is from Russia. She made typical phonetical mistakes as Russian speakers do/doing/done

[@kay_bird]

i see you a good listener of Mr Jordan Peterson 😉

[@brianlaudrupchannel]

Intelligent woman

[@DanielAleksanderJensen]

Your accent sound Eastern European.

[@jordanpeter8566]

U r awesome.

[@madeasimmons9746]

Simple supply and demand. Women sex workers are paid way for then men sex workers

[@willharriman1881]

This video is a cute distraction from the actual problem! Here's a true life example of the actual race problem in employment. A Black man (me) applied for a skilled position as a service technician. He meets all education and experience requirements of the position. All the applicants had to take a required competitive examination on ELECTROMECHANICAL TECHNOLOGY. The Black man scored 97% on the test to make the number one highest score. THREE white males with LOWER test scores are hired. The Black man who made the top test score was NOT hired! THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM! FORGET THE REST!

[@paulairola7041]

What if someone is smarter than another person and makes more money? Is someone less equal? Leftists have a real conundrum on their hands? Do we all get the same grades?

[@bigjohn2810]

Example, Venezuela. Their All Equal, while eating out of a dumpster. Socialism is Communism's foyer. Beware of socialism. It is for the elites only..

[@paulbriody297]

My view exactly. Yet Biden often states Equity to be a goal, amazingly dumb.

[@anthnyl]

Equality of outcome is a race to the bottom

[@aboba3527]

Oh my gad, I love you, marry me!

[@bettyparis3186]

😂😂 couldn’t this be more ridiculous!!! You are totally wrong !! Are you sure women have a choice?reproduce the humanity is the most valuable endeavour anyone could possible have, giving birth is not the only part were women participation is needed !! This is an INSULT !!!!

[@ayshazaheen3402]

Thank God you stopped making videos.

[@joe18425]

Oh what's this ?? An episode of seasame street ??

[@mrtnite9780]

WRONG.

[@hickory100]

How exactly?

[@norfolksouthernrailworks1543]

Equal outcome means you force minds to choose professions because there needs to be equal outcome in those professions, problem is, it's only against straight white males. Equal opportunity means you allow ALL individuals of ALL identities to choose their profession based on what they want to spend their life doing, and based on if they like field work vs time at home. Women don't like hard labor, that's a given fact. Men do, thats also a given fact. Teachers are dominated by females. Quota's are a problem because in promotions, you end up giving people promotional priority based on gender or color vs qualifications. It's a serious problem and the snowflakes in the modern society absolutely hate it when this exact argument gets made because it tears their argument apart.

[@SirPunchy]

What ignorant drivel. I'm glad you reach so few people.