Era's Gone .31 Conical Performance Test *Velocity Penetration* 1849 Colt

.31 Cal Era's Gone conical bullet penetration and velocity test from a Uberti 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver. Thanks for watching!

[@blackpowdershooter44]

This is a new revolver to the channel - full review coming in the upcoming months!

[@justinholoviak5357]

I like how some people tell you things that obviously you already know. You clearly are well informed and have expertise here.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Thanks Justin! Lol, it happens but it's no big deal at the end of the day

[@denisdegamon8224]

For a fair comparison you need to load the same number of grains. Penetration is a controlled by velocity and bullet mass. Speed being the most important. Your round ball won't bounch off and it will be faster than the conical when using the same powder charge. Also the manufacturer as well as the granulation size greatly affects the velocity with black powder. Swiss powder being the hotest black powder.

[@twistedyogert]

Why is Swiss powder so energetic?

[@453421abcdefg12345]

@@twistedyogert Because of the way it is made.

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

Good video on the 1849 31 caliber. I liked that you did a penetration test and a chronograph test,, very informative. Thank you, look forward to seeing more black powder percussion firearms videos.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Absolutely! That's my goal- to make informative and enjoyable reviews. Thanks for watching!

[@63DW89A]

Best to use 4Fg in a .31, for loose loading. Mark Hubbs of Eras Gone Bullet Molds got 900 fps using GOEX 4Fg. Swiss 4Fg would be even hotter.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

I will have to try that. In the past, I was apprehensive about using 4F in a revolver, but I'm curious to give it a go.

[@63DW89A]

@@blackpowdershooter44 I usually replace stock nipples with quality after market nipples having the proper very tiny flash holes used on original Colt, Remington and other revolvers. The tiny flash holes minimize blow-back, preventing cap jams, and also prevent the fine-grained 4Fg from dribbling thru nipples with too large flash holes. The fine powder dribbling thru a nipple and coating the breech area sets up a possible chain fire. The proper nipples prevent the dribble-thru of fine powders during loose loading. For constructing revolver combustible cartridges , I use Swiss Null B powder, an extremely fine grain 5Fg powder, which would be very close to the Hazard Cartridge powder provided for making revolver combustible cartridges in the 19th Century. With the very fine grain powder contained in the paper powder envelope, there is no danger of powder dribble thru when loading. Thanks for your video work, and Safe Shooting!

[@SteveAubrey1762]

Excellent video! I REALLY enjoy your channel! I'm very interested in these traditional BP guns and seeing the actual penetration tests is very interesting. Keep up the good work!

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Thank you!! You're going to like January's video where we've got 2 .36 cal revolvers going head to head for velocity & penetration!

[@blkfld7850]

Been watching your vids for years. You all grown now haha

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Haha, thanks for watching the videos!!

[@jumpkickman1993]

Great video I just bought the eras gone conical .31 for my Wells Fargo model

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Based on what I've seen in my experience here, you will like them!

[@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods]

Good video! Lol that COLT sure looks sharp!

[@blackpowdershooter44]

It's almost as good looking as a Remington!

[@Varmint.357]

A full chamber of Hodgdon triple seven could give you better velocities.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

I agree, however with too much compression on T7, the results have been all over the place for me in the past, so I generally prefer real black or Pyro P. It's difficult to seat the projectile lightly on the powder when the cylinder is loaded off the revolver.

[@jumpkickman1993]

@@blackpowdershooter44 that's absolutely true I've done some velocity readings and with less triple seven and less compression I get better velocities and normal goex3f but pyrodex P usually outperforms both of them

[@Squib1911]

Good to see how well conicals work in one of these. I want to get a pocket model before next summer.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

It is an effective little gun with the conicals!

[@BlackChowder]

Little guy packs a punch!

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Sure does, such a cool little revolver!

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Powder matters a lot in the.31 percussion revolvers. Goex 3f or triple seven pistol propellant would be the best the triple seven being preferred because a little faster and cleaner . And you'll get more velocity with the round ball because you can get more powder behind it

[@Everythingblackpowder]

What kind of black powder were you using? The pyrodex outperformed it by a long ways. I have a 44 Johnston and Dow mold from eras gone, it work’s great.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Grafs and sons black. I like it for target shooting, but when it comes to performance tests Pyro P always finds a way of outperforming.

[@KeiPyn24]

I've used 777 with great results. Great video. Thanks

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Thanks for watching!

[@seantierney3]

great video

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Thank you Sean for sending over the bullets for the video!!

[@twistedyogert]

The .31 had more power than I thought. I honestly didn't expect it to go through more than one slab.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

I wonder the same thing. Did not expect as much from the little .31. Thanks for watching!

[@DeucesWildRC]

Nice test, the .31 performed well with Pyrodex and eras gone conicals, I have the 1862 pocket and wouldn’t mind trying out some conicals in it

[@blackpowdershooter44]

It did do well; I like the bullet. The 1862 models are nice guns, I've held them before and was surprised at how small they are compared to a Navy.

[@DeucesWildRC]

Yes it’s a small one but really cool, way smaller than my 1851 Navy and 1858 Remington by far, I was surprised when I shot it I was thinking it would have much more recoil because of its smaller size, I upped the grains from 15 to 20 grains of Pyrodex and it was still an easy shooter, I’ve since slicked up the action on it and installed Slixshot nipples on it and my 1851, now I need to test it again and see if I get less cap jams, I also polished the hammer face to help increase its reliability as well, we’ll see the next time I take them to the range

[@blackpowdershooter44]

@@DeucesWildRC Awesome. I would like to get one one day, 20 grains in that little gun isn't bad at all.

[@jumpkickman1993]

I have one of the 1862 pocket police's and I would absolutely recommend the .390 diameter Conicles from Mark hubs "eras gone" they're 147grain and you get a huge ring of lead when you seat the bullet.

[@DeucesWildRC]

Jumpkickman what grain of powder charge are you using in your 1862 with conicals? And which conical? The Richmond lab?

[@ronrobertson59]

I had so much problems out of my 1849 I sold it about 25 years ago. I think it was Pietta if I recall it could have been uberti. I had to put two main springs in it to get good ignition out of the caps. I been thinking of buy another one

[@blackpowdershooter44]

I have 2 Ubertis, and besides cap jams, they work well and seem to be of high quality.

[@ronrobertson59]

@@blackpowdershooter44 have nine cap&ball revolvers seven are uberti one is Pietta and one 1860 Colt. All are well made with the normal issues you get from BP revolvers.

[@loquat4440]

So the 80 grain .31 Cal Eras Gone conical bullet seems to be traveling at between 700-800 fps. Penetration seems ok penetrating3 boards using the pyrodex load. Sounds close to a 32 special short or colt short. I might try FFFFG black powder.

[@josephgioielli]

You can try the round ball. They aren't going to bounce off.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Perhaps, but I don't want to risk it!

[@Matzah1982]

It’s about like a .32 S&W load. It’s putting about about 70 or 80 foot pounds of energy roughly

[@blackpowdershooter44]

It's likely similar

[@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV]

Awesome test, Ben! Do you notice any cylinder dimensions difference between the Pietta Pocket Remington and the Uberti Pocket Colts? I am working on a new bullet to add to my Kaido Ojamaa-VKJV Universal Bullet Fishing Sinker Survival molds series. This new series 31 caliber Kaido Ojamaa-VKJV Universal Bullet will be ready with molds either before the new New Year or early in 2024.

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

Cap n ball is better off using round balls.. more ppwder. More velocity. Thanks for this video its just what i was looking for

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks!

[@khester7397]

Whoa bro, looking ripped! Ive got the eras gone 44 caliber Kerr. I cant speak to its penetrating characteristics, but a round ball is a bit more accurate.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Thanks haha! I haven't tried the Kerr bullet, after checking a quick google search it looks like an interesting design and I'm sure it gives good power and penetration.

[@Lucas-nh2mk]

Grains of conical bullet?

[@dennisstonebrink1215]

I used Era gone bullit. Bent heck out of my loading lever. Bullets just seem a tiny bit to big around (dia) 1849 uberti

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Interesting observation. I prefer to load these little revolvers off the gun anyway, perhaps that would help with yours. Thanks for watching!

[@Tenn-pipes-powder-ponderance]

Almost 800 FPS. So much for " that's just to give someone an infection and die a week later " garbage. Slap some Pyrodex P or 777 and you have yourself a pretty decent lead thrower.

[@dougb8469]

Id like to see triple 7 velocity

[@TurdFerguson321]

Were those conicals bought from eras gone or did you buy their mold that makes one conical and one round ball and cast those yourself?

[@garyruxton5226]

Do you think finding something that conforms to the bullet profile preserving the tip, may possibly improving penetration?

[@blackpowdershooter44]

That probably would be beneficial, yes. Thanks for watching!

[@josephlahood4647]

Can you send a link for those conicals? I have that gun i cut down as a snub nose. I feel conical is best. Thnks

[@blackpowdershooter44]

They are made by Mark hubbs: www.erasgonebullets.com/

[@josephlahood4647]

Thanks just emailed but it looks like he just sells molds. Not really interested in casting them. Just want to buy some. Thnks

[@cowboywoodard2569]

What your Fear of using round balls,

[@josephlahood4647]

Want those conicals

[@WilliamHorsley1962]

Does grinding pryodex pistol powder to a 4F consistency increase ballistics?

[@blackpowdershooter44]

I have actually not tried that so I could not tell you for sure

[@drmachinewerke1]

Please know exactly how much power you are using when testing

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Power was displayed in the video, but for powder: the cylinder cannot hold more than 15 grains, and I filled up each chamber when loading so thus the 15 grain estimate.

[@ClydeAdams-vq1tq]

Are the darned .44s often on a .45 barrel?

[@blackpowdershooter44]

No, just the balls used are oversized in a .45 diameter (.451", .454", .457") so that there is a tight seal when the ball is pressed into the chamber, at which time they are brought down to a .44 diameter

[@aarondalton2223]

The lisping outlaw.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Yeah what's wrong with that guy

[@billythekidd623]

use tiple 7 3f

[@egomaniac8510]

Just my opinion but if you have customers waiting on a box, put down the camera

[@blackpowdershooter44]

I have a box available for sale and recently made a video featuring it. So, you can keep your opinion

[@lymancargill1720]

ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ

[@blackpowdershooter44]

what

[@mudweiser007]

Round ball will penitrate just as good if not better than those conicle bullets in my experience because more powder fits. It takes an extremely anemic load to richochet like a slingshot basically. So unless you suck at loading your just being scared