How to Convert 12v 7Ah Lead Acid Battery Into 12v 16.8Ah Li-Ion Battery Pack and 50400mAh Power Bank

[@hyperrunner4589]

Woww, plastic bottle shrink wrap was mind-blowing 🤯

[@hyperrunner4589]

@@Naughty_Squad For sure! 😅

[@gappxalpha707]

@@hyperrunner4589I am from India we Indians do also same bottle wrap with criket bat Handel to protect it

[@vgfxworks]

I know it was not the focus of the video, but yep, same here!! 😅 .. when I watched that being made, I immediatelly clicked on like ... anyone else? 🤨

[@ManoloJSQ]

Es posible obtener el diagrama de montaje?? Mil gracias 😊

[@ErCanEverything]

In the description there is a link where you can buy the BMS and there is a battery connection diagram on their site

[@stevemiller5214]

Man the most amazing part of this video is the heat shrink it is effective and good for the environment I learn a lot from this video thanks 😊

[@troyyarbrough]

Dude has some serious soldering skills. And the plastic bottle shrink wrap was an awesome trick.

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much🙏

[@jacquesb5248]

yeah that bottle shrinkwrap was a great idea, cheaper than shrink wrap

[@ErCanEverything]

Its heat up to 40⁰C. You can see in this video at 6:43 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3TIlnx8mshqj5o

[@bingosunnoon9341]

@breezetix Soldering lithium cells is really dumb. It shortens the life of the battery

[@balloney2175]

yah, the plastic bottle is all i like

[@PlayerLeonardo]

Instant like for the idea of using an old plastic bottle around the battery to protect it. Great ideia!

[@lloydsshednanigans]

I must say, this is one of the most well thought out builds I've seen for a long time. Careful wire runs etc. Suggestions, if I may, I would also have another 2 series links (like another comment said) and I would like to see some thermal separation between the charge controller and the battery pack. Either the thin composite board for even Kapton tape in a pinch. Also, I know it was sped up and it's hard to tell, but when using the heat gun to shrink the plastic, take a break every now and then so as not to stress the cells out from overheating. Oh and whack some hot glue or kapton tape over the 12v terminal undersides for good measure. If something pops off under that lot, then there could be a colourful fireworks display. All just suggestions and not meant as a criticism.

[@ТатьянаКорбут-э2у]

Эээээз

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝🤝🤝

[@БакурЭрдниев]

Цццц2йй 2

[@antoniocaetano5095]

P⁰⁰⁰mm

[@guruoo]

You've covered every single one of the issues I have with this build. Only other thing I can think of would be to provide for improved cooling while the pack is in use. But I'm nit picking there. 🙃

[@mai-ow6mk]

Instant like for the idea of using an old plastic bottle around the battery to protect it. Great ideia!

[@boblewis5558]

I made one of these about 2 years ago using a commercial case kit inc BMS. No on/off switch but added a small push button switch and a battery level meter. I also made another including a cell monitor instead which shows voltage overall plus volts on each bank & alarms when individual banks drop below minimum volts. The level display and the alarm/monitor are available online for a low price and are a worthwhile addition.

[@josuedanielmartinezsanchez4540]

Link hehe

[@johnme60]

I want to ask you something . Please tell me if you know about it. For many days I'm trying to find or build a hot cutter knife like tool which can cut the plastic so I can put switches , led lights or connectors in the plastic body. soldering iron only works for round holes and it gets messed up with melted plastic, small cutting disk doesn't work everywhere. I tried to modifying a soldering iron but it didn't work as expected. Currently I heat up a knife on the gas stove and cut the plastic with it , But it is so frustrating, I have to keep re heating it and I can do it in kitchen only, I end up giving up on many projects. Please tell me if you have solution to this issue. I'll be very thankful.

[@ErCanEverything]

Renovator multitool!

[@boblewis5558]

​@@ErCanEverythingyes they're great with a fine blade for straight edges and the narrow width blade does great holes for rectangular switches. The sides of the blades can also be ground down to get them narrower.

[@boblewis5558]

​@@ErCanEverythingJust remembered, they work on Aluminum also!

[@sincerelyyours7538]

A very fine build, I was not aware that a pack of 18650 cells would fit so perfectly inside a 12V gel-cell case. Also was not aware that a PET bottle would shrink so nicely over an 18650 pack - a good idea if/when you don't have commercial Heat Shrink Tubing that large when you need it. I would like to give three minor suggestions: First, go easy on the heat around the cells when shrinking down the covering (as Lloyd's Shednanigans suggested below) to avoid overheating the pack. Second, use 1/4" tinned braid instead of flattened solid core wire to join the cells together. It's just as thin but will carry more current and give you a small degree of flexibility which could prevent a cracked solder joint from disabling or causing sparks inside the pack. And third, put in an inline fuse, such as an auto fuse, above the cells like you did the switch and USB connectors to protect the pack from over-current situations.

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@bimrz1642]

BMS covers the overcurrent/overvoltage

[@ajtelecom4417]

Appp😊

[@boblewis5558]

@@bimrz1642 ✅✅AND undervoltage!✅✅

[@VinayakPatgaonkar]

Kindly show polarity of 18650 baþary

[@Полезныевещидлядома]

Я собрал аккумулятор тоже на пальчиковых 18650, на выходе получилось 12.64 В

[@UnknownPerson-cl9di]

That bottle idea was really genius

[@chinmengfong937]

Good skills. Good ideas. Perhaps the cells should not be touching each other to allow air gap for air flow to cool the cells. The shrink wrapping with PET bottle also restricts a lot of air flow. Not sure if the final product is a fire hazard or not.

[@barthchris1]

Fire hazard? No. If the cells are heating up to the point that combustion was possible you are abusing them not using them. Heat produced during normal use would not create any issue whatsoever.

[@bingosunnoon9341]

@@barthchris1 It's KZbin. Nobody takes these comments seriously. Batteries barely get warm during normal service. That's not news but thanks for pointing it out.

[@boblewis5558]

@@barthchris1 I have a slightly different BMS on mine that has a thermistor to monitor both charging and discharging temperature that cuts off the input/output on overtemp. Not all BMS's are built to the same standard. Caveat emptor!

[@stinkycheese804]

Meh not really true at all. Batteries routinely get warm when put into the same roles as that 12V/7Ah brick, for example they are commonly found in 600VA UPS, where there may be 50A current draw. Granted, since he has 8 cells in parallel per series, that's only 6A each, but 18650 cells do get far more than barely warm at 6A sustained draw. @@bingosunnoon9341

[@qnedim3200]

You used spot welding to avoid damaging the batteries by soldering. Then you soldered the wire to the batteries. You are very smart. So what did you do with the toxic waste coming out of the battery? Did you throw it in the trash?

[@vladtepes9057]

Получил огромное удовольствие от проделанной работы. Что бы у тебя НИКОГДА не болели руки

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much🙏🙂🤝

[@user-lx2yc5mr2t]

В чем преимущество переделки ?, Типо объем больше?

[@Дрывня_та_Нызалыжня_Вукраыня]

@@user-lx2yc5mr2t Типо качан длиннее🤦

[@user-lx2yc5mr2t]

@@Дрывня_та_Нызалыжня_Вукраыня чё за качан?

[@svyatoslavsobko7447]

Вопрос. А чем заряжать этого монстра? Лабораторным зарядным устройством? Его чем попало не зарядишь где угодно. Есть решение с мобильным зарядным? В ИБП его не воткнешь будет заряжать его сутки а то й больше там ток на 10 ампер!!! Но идея бомба. Тоже попробую такое сделать

[@kiranvc9338]

Wires stripping Soldering Battery arranging Plastic Wrapping Wires bending Holes drilling Overall Packing What a neet aesthetic electrician you are ! ❤️‍🔥

[@gregorykusiak5424]

I would’ve bought a project box rather than risk exposing myself to the lead and acid. I was going a little insane that there seemed to be some solder rationing happening - a little solder on each surface will help them stick better/faster and longer/more reliably

[@AshiqurRahman]

But what about these cells? How would you find promising 18650 which will keep it's original capacity for say like 1 year....

[@kimmer6]

Very nice build. My dyslexia saw 50,400 ah watt hour??? battery and thought it was bigger than my battery pack. Mine is 3600 Amp Hours, 46,000 Watt Hours and needs a forklift to move. I stayed to the end and was impressed with your skills. I had a bit of PTSD with the Dremel tool work as it sounded like the root canal I had that went wrong. Very nice work!

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝

[@bhupendrakumar2520]

lol. and your build is impressive. IS it even legal, I saw someone made a 25kwh battery, and turned out it won't pass inspection.

[@kimmer6]

@@bhupendrakumar2520 It's currently in an off grid location where regulations are simple. Besides, it has multiple breakers and electrical outlets and nothing is permanent or hard wired. It has 50 amp 240 volt outlets, 30 amp 120 volt RV cable outlets, and 20 amp 120 volt outlets. It is no different than running an EcoFlow unit. It's just bigger and more powerful. Even the solar panels are ''portable'' and have angled frames that have indoor outdoor carpet on the bottoms and they can be readily moved in seconds. I built it here in my shop, ran it for 3 months, and we disassembled it to transport it to my old college buddy's mountain cabin. He paid for the parts long ago. Hese's a very early video of it before the improvements. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYG8mGSHj69latE

[@adelemartinez8235]

You cracked me up!

[@Once_in_a_Lifetime]

I think he meant 50,000ma continuous discharge! I don’t know how he even can use this without a 5 v step down converter for the Usb ports as this is not a 12 v battery and should not be used as such.. I would have reservations about even using a pop bottle for this as I would want more insulated material used.

[@DaVeT_Ci]

Geri dönüşüm, estetik ve becerinin harmanlanmış hali bu olsa gerek. Tek kelimeyle harikasın...

[@khamismuniru5188]

I love the bottle idea so much!😎

[@ErCanEverything]

I'm glad you liked it my Friend🙂🤝🍀

[@AlanFox555]

На это хочется смотреть бесконечно😌😌Человек - гений👍.

[@ХитрыйДжо-ж8ю]

Что тут гениального? Зашёл на али купил комплектующие и спаял. делов то.

[@КириллТрофимов-ш1й]

@@ХитрыйДжо-ж8юа батарею тоже Али распилил и очистил от старой начинки?

[@guruoo]

Skillfull build, thoughtful, and well produced video. Definitely a keeper. More, please! 👍

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you my Friend🙂❤️🤝🤝🤝

[@macksuting6263]

​@@ErCanEverythingI'm late but I wanna know how do you charge it? Since I didn't see charging port

[@A2z_video286]

প্লাস্টিক বোতল এই কাজ টা করে ফেললেন আমি তো অবাক আর জিনিসটা এত সুন্দর হয়েছে বলে বোঝাতে পারবো না সত্যি বুদ্ধি মানতে হবে এই প্রথম এমন কম খরচে এত সুন্দর জিনিষ টা না দেখে কমমেন্ট না করে থাকতে পারলাম না 😊😊 !

[@nxesr]

Freaking unbelievable from start to finish super BOSS mode, bro you're a true prepper🙏

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you my Friend🙏🙂🤝

[@andymora5595]

This is a wonderful project! If I built it, I would not trust the bottle as insulation material. I would add an extra layer. And also a separate layer between the external battery poles and the PCB. In case a wire is getting lose, it can lead to a serious shortcut and fire. A fuse would also be good to protect the device, at best an external fuse which can be reset in case it has tripped. Battery voltage of 12,2V is very low for lead acid batteries, most appliances need voltages between 12 and 13V. If I connect a battery charger for 18V batterys to a 12V lead acid battery, it stops charging the connected battery if voltage is lower than 12V. Also consider that there is a voltage drop inside battery and on the lines.

[@thesnack7240]

What an amazing idea for shrink wrap I genuinely learnt something today

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@debendrabudek2770]

Waa bhai botle kya use kiya hai amazing nice bhai love ❤ from odisha, bargarh

[@Sobakin76]

Nice. But I prefer 4S LiFePo4 for lead-acid alternative because of better voltage equality and compatibility with chargers and equipment and higher currents capability. Did in same case battery from 4 32700 6a-h elements, it can start Yamaha R6 engine. Now building in case of originall motorcycle battery which is a 5mm thicker so I can install 4x 33140 15a-h LiFePo4 elements, and battery is still lighter than original lead-acid was (2kg vs 2.8kg)

[@ncdave4life]

I completely agree, Sobakin76. Lead-acid batteries charge at 14v. With only three 3.6v lithium-ion cells in series, you get 14v / 3 = 4.67v charging voltage, which is way too high. The BMS will presumably lower that to something reasonable, but probably at the cost of a lot of waste heat while charging, and you'll get less than 11v out of the resulting battery pack. With four 3.2v LiFePo4 cells, instead, you get 12.6v, which is a perfect match for a lead-acid battery, and you get the longevity and safety of LiFePo4, too. Where do you get your 32700 or 33140 LiFePo4 cells, are you pleased with their quality, and what BMS do you use?

[@Sobakin76]

@@ncdave4life BMS won't lower charging voltage, it just disconnect batteries. I got batteries in local store in UA, I use 60/100A "white board" BMS with balabcer from Ali, it has variants for li-ion and for lifepo4 (different chips) and from 3s to 5s (can be changed)

[@ncdave4life]

@@Sobakin76, thank you!

[@Once_in_a_Lifetime]

@@ncdave4lifeI heard a comment on another video that the solution to mismatched battery/device would be to go to around 24v 7s and then using a buck converter to bring to down to a steady 12 volts with a desired amperage. Have you ever heard that before and hows that sound to you? Thanks!

[@ncdave4life]

​@@Once_in_a_Lifetime, sorry, I don't know.

[@ngrader]

5:37 First time I've seen this, luv it.

[@ErCanEverything]

I'm glad you liked it🙂🤝

[@artursmihelsons415]

Excellent project! I have same BMS, but I planned to use it in drill battery.. Now I considering to use it in garage Lithium battery project to replace SLA.. My solar charger can charge SLA and Lithium, only I need to change settings.. Love idea to use old used soda bottle as heat shrink tube! ❤️👍 Great video with cool ideas!

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much🙏🤝

[@_specialneeds]

If you're going to spend the money on all those 18650s, you might as well spring for another $10 and actually buy a shell along with that charging board that's made for what you're making. Then you don't have to deal with poisonous battery bits. Soda bottle heat drink ideas fantastic though. Plastic bottles are blow molded so when you heat them they shrink, good idea.

[@gideonlapidus8996]

I love that home made copper busbar

[@سيدالقاضي-ب9ي]

هذى البطاية تكون عند الشحن ترتفع حرارة البطاريات والمكان ضيق

[@ErCanEverything]

Batteries for electric scooters and screwdrivers are assembled in the same way

[@gregx9419]

Great! I like the choice of music. I wish you add subs describing what you are doing.

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@jackevans2386]

Plastic bottle shrink wrap is a GREAT IDEA !!

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@TheSpotify95]

20:20 The bench PSU was shut off because the over charge protection (battery BMS) turned off the charge, the battery voltage was over 12.9V which is too much for a 3S Lithium Ion battery pack. Li-Ion cells should not be charged to anything higher than 4.2V per cell, which is 12.6V total. So you need to set your power supply to 12.6V and wait until it drops down to a very low charging current.

[@ErCanEverything]

You are absolutely right. I wanted to show you that the BMS automatically shuts off once it reaches a critical voltage for the batteries. I set the power supply above 13V to show you that the BMS works, but the current must be observed according to the numbers of batteries and the manufacturer's specifications.🙂

[@budzio135]

This battery is not available to a car or motorcycle. Because in those voltage is on 14.2volt level. Simply acid battery can be loaded by 16.2 voltage. Maybe we can take one liion battery more on one cell than a capacity. Then in the loading process we have 12.6 plus 4.2 and will be 16.8. And in the lowest lvl of voltage will be 3.3 x 4 equals 13.2volt. A little more than we need. 14.2 is the limit of loading in cars/motorcycle. And this is a little under we want. In the past I think about this kind of battery and this kind of problem. But if we want a good capacity of power bank we have a good one sample on the move. Good job.

[@TheSpotify95]

@@budzio135 Car or motorcycle batteries will usually be much larger than 7Ah. Car batteries in particular will be about 80Ah or more, so this small battery will not be able to replace a car battery. However, for 12V appliances that need a lot of power and need to be portable, this battery pack is ideal. So boomboxes, portable televisions, etc. I will probably make one myself for a 12V car clock, which has always been known to chew batteries.

[@MrBesmir7]

@@TheSpotify95 there are lithium battery for cars but are too much in parallel..to handle 100_300amp should 40_50 lithium battery in parallel and 3_4 in series..of course a powerful charger..fo fast charging constant current charging...

[@FixitEasyDIY]

Трябва да ти призная, че имаш много прецизни ръце. Евалла!

[@ErCanEverything]

Благодаря ти Приятелю🙏🤝

[@Wtever]

thats the perfect use of space and technology ..mind blowing...🤟

[@ErCanEverything]

This video has 322K views, so maybe it will bе interesting for YOU. DIY 20 000 mAh QC3.0 Supported Parkside Power Bank from 20V 4Ah Parkside Battery! Just for $1 👉kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIPclYCkaqdmea8

[@JoshuaJapitan]

A battery pack's total mAh is determined by the total mAh of any one of the paralleled cell groups right? So if those were 2100mAh, and it is 3s8p, then it would be 2100 mAh x 8 = 16800 mAh, not 50400

[@josuedanielmartinezsanchez4540]

But what if.. the first pack has 2100 mah, but the second pack (mid) has 1000mah and the third (top for example) has 500mah? what happens there? thanks in advance

[@razorramzan-inc]

This is on another level. Very nice job.

[@ErCanEverything]

❤️❤️❤️

[@cmmb3android]

EXCELLENT!!! The best project with an old lead acid battery 12v and li-ion cells.

[@wideawaketotruth5301]

First time I've watched one of your videos. LIKED and SUBSCRIBED! The level of innovation and skill was simply put, incredible!

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much my Friend🙏🙂

[@wideawaketotruth5301]

@@ErCanEverything Your Welcome 😁🙏

[@T-Craft]

a great idea. but it will be very difficult for newbies without a wiring diagram. but very good and worth learning. Thank you😊

[@to220]

Good job 👍and I'll probably steal the idea with that bottle ;-)

[@ErCanEverything]

Thanks buddy🤝🍻 They are really very helpful👍

[@Bogdosko]

Nevieš kde nabral 50 400mAh ?😂

[@ErCanEverything]

If you carefully read the title and the description, I wrote there that it is 12V 16.8A, but if we calculate it as a Power Bank, it is equivalent to a 50400mAh Power Bank. if we connect all 24 x 2100mAh batteries in parallel then it becomes 3.6V 50400mAh which is equal to 181.44W

[@to220]

@@Bogdosko Tipujem že to bude kapacita pri 5V výstupnom napäti z powerbanky. Keď to má pri 12V 16.8Ah tak pri 5V by to mohlo byť 50Ah ale prepočítavať to a kontrolovať to určite nebudem.

[@titigrewa824]

Parkside tools rock!

[@TheSpotify95]

Good idea, though you can actually buy pre-made cases (with cell holders) so you can just make a 11.1V Li-Ion battery pack without needing to destroy a 12V lead acid battery in the process.

[@dragonmaster9543]

Where?

[@shariatmoallemi1100]

This idea is very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience. Please tell me how many degrees did you set the temperature of the heater to connect the batteries?

[@ayubshaikh9156]

Heat shrinking …….Genius !

[@mhdh78]

عمل رائع و احترافي الى أبعد الحدود ...... كل شيء مذهل و متقن ...... 10/10❤❤❤

[@mitchellminer4596]

Awsome man! Wish I was that electronically smart ......definitely use the plastic bottle trick now! 👍👍👍👍

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you for the kind words my Friend🙂♥️🤝

[@divikumar5475]

@@ErCanEverythingDude made his own copper strip and a heat shrink using bottle, I am really impressed

[@amhalabdelah3993]

السؤال يأخي المحترام أشمن الشرجور باش كتشارجة هاد البطرية شحال ديال الپولت والأمپير جزاك الله خيراً وبارك في عمرك وصحتك وبالتوفيق نشاء الله

[@Tugitu]

Wow its very nice mate, and i like the way you use the bottle, its nice idea 👍👍👍

[@ErCanEverything]

Yes, these bottles are very useful. Thank you my Friend🙏🤝🤝🤝

[@kevinf8323]

In general I like the idea, but.. 1. That's a lot of work to get to the point of having an empty box to work with. 2. What are you going to do with all that hazardous waste? I may be wrong, but I doubt that a recycler will take the lead cells after you rip them out of the case. So why not find or make a similar size box to work with?

[@ErCanEverything]

You are right that there is a lot of work to do before I empty the box, but I used the lead battery box to make it look more interesting to the viewers. And the waste lead goes to recycling🙂🤝

[@stephentaylforth4731]

Other than a 3S 8P 18650 pack being significantly less than 12V for most of its discharge cycle and possible fire risk, bravo. Being a nominal 11.1 volts may or may not be a problem depending on what you use it for.

[@balloney2175]

"possible fire risk, bravo" .... i don't get it

[@stephentaylforth4731]

@@balloney2175 Bravo for doing a good job other than the 2 problems. (not 12v and it possibly being a fire risk)

[@immrnoidall]

Free giant shrink tubes. Saw that trick years ago and use it to fix many things. Cracked cordless screwgun? no problem. Soda bottle. That was years ago and it still work fine. That stuff is strong when it shrinks up.

[@DeltaLima274]

I was supprised when I saw here that old bottle can be also used this way! will use this on my own next battery project! thanks for this :) very help and useful

[@supermpe]

OKAY BUT WHY SHOUT THO?

[@immrnoidall]

@@supermpe LOL. I hope you're OK from all that yelling.

[@Segphalt]

This is the least jank no voiceover build video I have seen on KZbin. Congrats.

[@isaacmalco452]

Wires on bms needs to be on same lengths and gauge sizes to have similar resistance for accurate voltage balancing.

[@isaacmalco452]

And you can atleast put a voltage indicator to let you know the charge level..

[@ErCanEverything]

There was no space for a voltmeter but I will add an external small voltmeter

[@Micro-Motive]

Not quite correct in regards to voltage balancing, as the voltage balancing only occurs during the charging cycle at lowered current. Hence the resistance of the wires in the BMS Monitoring path (Resistivity * cross-sectional area * length) is not a significant factor during the charge cycle Where the wire size does matter is in the discharge path - the cell to cell connections, the Cell Bank +ve & - ve to BMS B+ & B - , and the BMS P+ & P - to the External Case Terminals.

[@maurizioschenone8405]

Excellent. The part of the heat gun ajajaj. Nice!

[@ima4tubing]

Very creative. Very nice design and build. I will have to get brave and try this sometime.

[@ErCanEverything]

Thanks for the kind words🙂🤝, but you have to be very careful with the batteries!

[@mariaampula4185]

Great job

[@fraaggl]

3s liion for 12v is a little bit short... 13.2v /4 = 4.4, knowing that max voltage for each cell is 4.2...

[@dschannel1171]

There's sensitive electronics that doesn't handle over voltage

[@whoknows8225]

nominal voltage is 3.7x3 = 11.1v you are right, it is a little bit short But the voltage sag is less at higher currents, it can make up for it.

[@nikolndasler1942]

BMS vonted only 12,8 v !!!

[@fraaggl]

@@dschannel1171 electronics suited for 12v can handle 14.5 v normally...

[@dschannel1171]

@@fraaggl My reference is the IC TEA2025, it's a very sensible circuit, it's made to operate on 9v DC and can handle 12v without issues, but if reach it's absolute maximum voltage (the value depends on manufacturer, can be 14.5v or 15v), it simply burns, above the limit, the chip trends to heat more than usual with voltage higher than 12v and lesser than the limit.

[@jh4mte237]

Japanese people who do not speak English can easily understand So it will be helpful. Very great! The 18650 is easy to use and very good, but now I'm making a portable power supply with LFP.💐

[@luminousfractal420]

The metal panels look a similar size to the 6800-9800mah lithium flat packs, I'm sure you could get some directly matched sizes and boost that mah rating even more.

[@lalremruata7209]

Good idea👍. But I think it needs another charger for 3.7V+3.7V+3.7V batteries. If the charging voltage reach 13.20V soon the lithium batteries get damaged.

[@FixitEasyDIY]

Полезно. Скоро ще правя и аз батерия за една количка на лапето. Благодаря ти за видеото!

[@ErCanEverything]

Това ще е идеално, направих такъв за осветлението на градината със слънчев панел от 2-3 години насам си работи без проблем.

[@AiHDang]

Very well project! But if we have more detail explain is better ! 2 board is why we need ? Where we find it out ?..,

[@ErCanEverything]

One is called BMS and serves to balance the cells. and the other is a Quick Charge QC3.0 module with 2 USB outputs for charging a phone, etc.

[@alexsiniov]

you need 4S lifepo4 configuration to match VRLA working range. 3S li-on will not work in 12v application

[@ErCanEverything]

In this video you can see how it works on UPS kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZeQZZhmptSCjK8

[@alexsiniov]

@@ErCanEverything It can't work properly. 12V application will try to charge battery to 13.8-14.4 volts. BMS will cut off overcharge, UPS will loose battery. If you wanna use it as USB power bank, that's another question :)

[@itsL7L]

Wow cool, I'm going to copy this almost exactly. Question. What would happen in I added a 9th battery on each row of 3? Would capacity just go up? or would the bms not function properly be used it would make voltage go up instead.

[@bentheguru4986]

Good time chewing video watch but here are some points. The pack is 3S and not 4S thus voltage output and charge voltages lower. Lead-Acid (LA) runs very different volatages and current flows on output and charge. Putting Lithium into a case designed and configured to plug in LA applications just doesn't work without changes to the system feeding to/from it. So many have gone down path of trying to run UPS's of these turds and find it sucks bad, especially with 3S. If you wanna build a power bank, put it in a different container/package.

[@ErCanEverything]

Initially I also thought that the voltage would be low, but they are almost identical. the minimum voltage for LA batteries is around 10 ~ 10,5V, for 3S it is 9.6~9.9V, I even made a 3S 22Ah Li-ion UPS pack and so far I have no problems. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZeQZZhmptSCjK8

[@Yesican24]

Just a simple question, will it work in short backup UPS for PC? KINDLY GIVE sure answer please....!!

[@ErCanEverything]

Of course it works and this video is the proof kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZeQZZhmptSCjK8

[@rorye.derrick6636]

Hi there, I'm building a battery pack very similar to yours, and I was not sure what BMS or power shear board to use, and so I learned which one is going to work from your video build, very nice job..😎👍 PS. I also like how you used the plastic bottle as the insulation for the battery's cells, Nice 👍

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝

ngl, the pet bottle wrap is pretty smart.

[@HandSolitude]

It's much more useful if you go for LiFePO4 4s rather the Lipo 3s... The 3s won't match alternators and other 12v systems properly.

[@kiryutinaleksey]

Exactly. 4.3x3= only 12.9V. But usual chargers give 14+V. So it will be 4.7v per cell. It is well too much. May explode.

[@innpressTV]

Maybe show a wiring schematic or something like ”Gear Show" youtube channel and explain it in a little more detail. Also, what about charging.

[@andrewhudson2860]

Great build but do you think maybe some better thicker cable to the 12volt terminals would be good. They must have got very hot with that halogen lamp.😊

[@darkknight145]

One suggestion: The USB modules have LED's on them, You could have drilled holes in the lid of the box above the LED's then refilled the holes with clear Epoxy, this will allow the lights to be seen as an indicator the the USB modules are turned on. I've done this many times and it works well.

[@DigitalIP]

I probably would have doubled up the copper strips to make sure they could handle the current going through them, but its not for a vehicle like i originally thought so i guess it doesnt matter.

[@ErCanEverything]

The maximum discharge current of these batteries is 5A total 40A. I don't think I'll load it more than 40A because that will destroy the batteries

[@DigitalIP]

@@ErCanEverything Yeah, after i saw what it was gonna be used for i disregarded the need for extra copper..

[@Полезныевещидлядома]

Отличное работа, за труды однозначно лайк 👍

[@engr.ediyoakpanesen7260]

These has been my challenge with these lithium ion batteries. Full charge is 12.6v. Without using dedicated lithium ion battery charger, you will not get the full charge. Other charges will cut off at 12v or a little above that. So, how do you solve this challenge?

[@bentheguru4986]

No, think about it some more. Dangerous idea building Lithium into Lead-Acid cases.

[@ErCanEverything]

It was an LA battery from a UPS whose charging voltage is 13.7V. I made a 3S 8P Li-ion battery that can be charged at a maximum of 12A, I don't believe the UPS charger will exceed 4A which will not affect this pack. And once the voltage reaches 12.7~ 12.8V, the BMS will automatically stop charging

[@bentheguru4986]

@@ErCanEverything and totally different voltage profile to what the UPS is expecting thus you won't get anywhere near a deep discharge or most of the actuall current Lithium can produce. Unless you have a lithium configured UPS, stick with a chemistry it is designed for. Besides, 3S is a cheap way out from using 4S.

[@msbtechvlog2048]

Great ...you are very Good ...love from saudi Arabia

[@evgeniignatiev1442]

Бутылка?!Это находка!!!🤔👍👏

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙏🙂

[@alteschule300]

Mit der Plastikflasche, ist eine wirklich schlaue Idee 👍🏼. Überhaupt was du alles so machst ist genial 🤩👍🏼

[@ErCanEverything]

I am glad you liked it my Friend🙏🙂🤝🍀

[@himalayanbgguitarworkshop1474]

video is so best but what component you use that's matters n people need that video what you use. If you read my comment plz tell me what you component you use for this video

[@ErCanEverything]

I always leave links in the video description for the components I used

[@MeteorMark]

Very nice build! And I would add a way to see/test the remaining capacity, Voltage & Ampèrage of the battery!

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝

[@bingosunnoon9341]

Really?

[@AlGritzmacher]

1. Solder is not glue. Make a secure mechanical connection, then solder the wire. This is what the holes in the circuit board are for. You might be confident enough in your soldering skills to get away with it, but the viewers might not be. Solder will fatigue over time and vibration and the connection will break at the worst possible time. 2. Great idea and implementation using the old SLA casing, but, use your words... Explain why you are doing what we see in the video and where you are going with it.

[@ErCanEverything]

I'm glad you liked the video. Maybe you're right about the solder but there wasn't enough space in the box and if I had soldered the wires in the holes there was a chance they would short circuit over time touching the cells. Otherwise I use it for lighting or to charge my phone when I go camping

[@bingosunnoon9341]

Soldering lithium batteries will cause damage to the cell. Everyone knows that, unless you don't nothing about batteries.

[@jacksonphilip3651]

could you please share the circuit diagram for benefit of learning

[@isaacmayorga3932]

Hello, as I have been able to observe, it was enough with a charging voltage of 12.65 maximum 12.7, when applying 13v that's why the battery shows a voltage lower than 12.6 since the bms protected it.... On the other hand what a good battery elaboration!!!

[@b.powell3480]

Where did you buy the batteries and circuit controllers from ?, thanks 😊

[@ErCanEverything]

I bought the batteries from someone who replaces defective electric scooter batteries. The BMS and QC modules are from Aliexpress, the links are in the video description.🙂

[@romanshorif2330]

@@ErCanEverything would salvaged batteries from broken laptop battery pack work?

[@ErCanEverything]

@@romanshorif2330 Yes, they have identical parameters

[@dlloyd6300]

would something like this be suitable to replace an old lead acid battery in a PC battery backup system?

[@ErCanEverything]

It can also be used in PC battery backup system and this is the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZeQZZhmptSCjK8

[@aznative_]

Step the game up, use yourself some cell spacers. At the very least put something between the cells. Only the worst packs on the market will ever have cells touching each other. I can personally attest to that.

[@paulscottpadgett1996]

EXCEPTIONAL Content

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you my Friend🙂🤝

[@narpat007]

complex, difficult to implement for a normal guy, but really creative idea

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much🙂🤝

[@prashantthapliyal2861]

Very good work, I am your new subscriber from India 🇮🇳.

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you my Friend🙂🤝🤝🤝

[@luisjosecordovarueda1777]

Gracias excelente ilustración, lo hace ver tan fácil, gracias

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much🙏🙂🤝

[@s.m.shawon9931]

lol.. everything was great, but u forgot cover the 12v output inside the case , which can make serious damage... i loved the way u used bottle plastic to cover the battery

[@DjaniAgain]

Wow, this pack would have juice to charge whole family's phones on picnic 😉. Great project again! Where from you salvaged this much batteries?

[@ErCanEverything]

Yes very practical for a picnic. Some time ago I bought them cheap, they were from an electric scooter🙂

[@成非-l6c]

太复杂！ 在每个电池一端都用 细电线当过流保险丝 不是更好而且更简单？

[@sheadjohn]

Get a box. Do not cut open lead acid battery. 😐

[@anishadak000]

It's gone so no problem

[@Nice_Gaming001]

It is a smf battery

[@garethwilliams2173]

18650 Li ion cells presumably; 3.7V 2Ah. At 3s8p the voltage will be a bit below 12V but the 16.8Ah is conservative with decent cells. Where does the 50.4Ah come from?

[@nandopokator4185]

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