How to make Lithium ion Battery pack for Motorcycle? Forget Lead acid Battery CPI Oliver Sport 50cc³

[@DjaniAgain]

I like how batteries fit perfectly into these lead acid battery shell's 😍 Thanks for sharing with us awesome ideas! 👍

[@ErCanEverything]

I'm glad if you like it Bro🙂🤝

[@einfachnurso-SJ]

​@@ErCanEverything What mount do you have there? So that the 18650s stand still. Seen at 05:07

[@ErCanEverything]

@@einfachnurso-SJ Flat piece of wood and parkside bar clamps

[@ddfgtdjt9668]

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[@jhaybee8172]

What is the name of the PCB module ypu used?

[@JaydenLawson]

That plastic bottle trick for the battery cover is genius!

[@PlayNewMobileGames]

Awesome, my friend. 😍 💕 Thanks for sharing. 👍 Have a nice day. 🤗 ✨

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you very much🙏🤝🤝🤝

[@tade769]

...the music that gives shivers while waiting for an explosion... 😲💀 , very good job... 😜

[@ErCanEverything]

😄😄😄

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you my Friend🙂🤝

[@HandmadeCreativeChannel]

Great project, very smart solution👌👍🍀

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you my Friend🙏🙂🤝🤝🤝

[@mamunsharder3704]

এত সুন্দর একটি কাজ করে দেখানোর জন্য সকলের অবস্যই লাইক কমেন্ট করা উচিৎ।

[@waynegabler6570]

3:00 a pair of wire snips is all you need if you put the case in the freezer for a few hours. The soldering of the cross pieces could be done on the bench. If a 'ladder' dia could be used the 'steps' would be made of a 'fuse wire between two cells 9@2.5ah) that has a common wire that is a tad thicker to complete the 12v s4 20ah battery. Times that by 5, you have an e-bike you can ride for a few hours.

[@bryancunningham1095]

Great battery build, love your shrink wrap trick be safe and careful.

[@uddhav2480]

Perfect presentation 👍❤️🌹🙏

[@ErCanEverything]

🙏🙂🤝🤝🤝❤️

[@FargothPL]

How does the battery perform after years? The cells do not overcharge due to too high charging voltage? After all, the alternator generates a charging voltage of 14.5V, which is too high for 3S Liion. By the way, using a plastic bottle in this way is one of the best and smartest tricks I've seen on the net! :D I'll try that too. Thanks for video!

[@allsearpw3829]

Hi, great work on this set up . Even the snap bottle fit with the ridges .👍

[@alandasettt]

Exelente trabajo...tu eres muy creativo...Thanks

[@ErCanEverything]

I'm glad you liked the video.😊🤝🤝🤝

[@RafaelCarbonell-h9y]

Será creativo pero eso no es una moto es una bomba con ruedas a quien se le ocurre poner en una moto de gasolina un pack de baterías de litio 18650

[@markkay8117]

One thing to ask: disconnected battery voltage was 12,3 volts. battery voltage, connected to the working bike 12.2 volts. this means only one thing, alternator on this bike is not working or missing or disconnected. Otherwise how the original lead acid battery is going to be charged? Lead acid batteries require around 13,5-14 volts DC in the electrical system of the bike or a car. Battery shown in this video is not suitable for direct replacement of the Lead Acid battery. It will fail !

[@RafaelCarbonell-h9y]

No solo fracasará es una moto bomba cuando explote veré a ese en el cielo

[@Umski]

Nice job, kind of weird that the cells fit so perfectly into the battery case! My personal preference is to twist wires prior to tinning which keep all the strands together and prevents any stray strands. Only other caution would be the fact everything is quite tight in there but in the use case with a very short discharge when starting and relatively low current charging it seems like a good solution 👏

[@helloscoopa]

Soldering wires after wrapping battery with the protective plastic is absolute diabolical

[@nashdaflash]

Bravo beautifully done

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@ThusithaThanthirige]

Greetings From Super Extremes

[@EDJCTOP1]

竟然用矿泉水瓶做热缩膜，👍

[@alexmoro348]

Nice video but, if you place a buck converter between original charging system and the battery, set the voltage to 12.4-12.6 volts it's better for the battery and the BMS.

[@skyjon6359]

Bms needed for Li bat, for balancing

[@Nigeria_slime]

I think he mean the output of the scooter so the voltage entering the bms is lower. But it's needs to do current both ways so I'm not sure how that would work

[@Nigeria_slime]

Oh actually separate the alternator from the starter motor, lower alternator voltage perhaps

[@ErCanEverything]

the scooter generates 14.4V but the BMS has a controller, and as soon as it reaches 12.6 - 12.8V it turns off the power supply to the batteries using the mosfets

[@Nigeria_slime]

Oh so does that mean the bms can accept more then just 12.6 to 12.8 safety? I have the same bms so I'm curious

[@艾布利亞]

Using plastic bottles for packaging is surprisingly clever.

[@qazimtahir]

Excellent 👍👍👍😊

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@saed19771]

Thank you, I tried it your way and it worked ❤

[@danyneshwarpujari595]

Hi so much and Thank you betri impormeshn

[@GabiFodorrasRO]

Big like!👍👍👍👍👍✅💪Felicitări! Great video 👍👍👍😎

[@mhamedalia4919]

Bravo bon électricien chapeau

[@johnedwards315]

nicely done. q1. don't you need thicker cables?for around 20-30 Amps? q2. is that bms capable of handling such amperage? q3 no heat sensor/alarm. what if bms fails and keeps overcharging? explosion and fire. I have yet to see any diyer in you tube to take into consideration safety and the limitations of lithium batteries. Good effort anyways.

[@ErCanEverything]

Оnly the cables in the poles should be thick and they are 6mm² the rest of the cables are for balancing and no need for a thick cable. The BMS is 100A, the starter draws 30A and the alternator cannot exceed 5A when charging. Yes, you're right, I didn't put a thermal sensor, but I should have.

[@johnedwards315]

I have seen 'miracles' happen with solar lithium bats as well as 18650. Fires, explosions, bms failures, melted cables etc etc. Mind you that bms's are chinese junk. Quite unreliable and fry easily. Once they fry your only safty angel is a thermal sensor -provided it is reliable- lol. My comments have only safety in mind with the chinese unreliability variable. Keep up the good work. Tnx

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙏🙂🤝

[@mdshihabmolla6822]

Nise battry. Low cost

[@maatiraouki9124]

Excellent

[@Adolfot1961]

SI POTREBBE AVERE LO SCHEMA DEI COLLEGAMENTI DELLE BATTERIE 😉👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@charlesfitton9677]

This is one of the neatest hacks I've seen

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝

[@abubakarmansare4779]

It is indeed a fantastic job, keep up thanks.

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝

[@rogeriodiasdossantos6213]

Top 👍🏽🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋⚡⚡⚡⚡🇧🇷

[@aothienuong9789]

hello i'm from vietnam nice to meet you

[@ErCanEverything]

Hello👋 Thank you for your comment🙂

[@aothienuong9789]

@@ErCanEverything 😊

[@tubeinfoful]

Very nice thanks

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝

[@sharukhmatekuki5830]

Nice 👍🏻👍🏻 🇮🇳 Kuki 31|05|2022

[@darkmatterisgrey]

I think it would be better if you properly spot welded the 18650 cells with zinc plated strips, between them. I have tinned a lot of copper wiring to cells and stuff. I don't think it is the best approach for this case, a motorcycle battery, which has to endure a lot of vibration and shaking/bumping, especially if the roads are rough in your country, because there is a much higher risk of cracking a solder joint and making a short or just killing the battery pack and your precious work, faster than you would believe. Nice job though.

[@BOB-eb8xz]

And the fact that is charging up to 16volts is ok, right? Fuck the risk of fire, just use zinc strips.

[@darkmatterisgrey]

@@BOB-eb8xz Not really. The bms board charges each cell up to 4.2v and stops charging omce it reaches that value or about 12.6v total. I've made a similar battery and tested this myself. Provided that he bms doesn't malfunction and everythimg goes south of course..

[@burnzy56469]

Amazing work every time. Maby next time a 4s lifepo4 cells so you can use more of the capacity.

[@benjaminawat6458]

very clever...

[@mavibisiklet1]

O sistem de mutlaka şark kesici bir devre kullanman gerekiyor, lştyum iyon piller fazla şarjda patlar

[@ErCanEverything]

Zaten 100A bir BMS Modül koydum ve denedim, 12,8V ulaştığı zaman pillere giden akımı kesiyor

[@michaelaleyh1570]

Best Video i Seen

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙏🙂

[@Csp_2013]

Wish you could have explained this step by step! And where did you buy the circuit board?

[@teknisiamatir91]

Nice... video

[@powergeneration3198]

16:12 Greetings From Super Extremes

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@tombertas2864]

Good job! 😁👍

[@ElenaShumilina777]

Благодаря ти Еркан!

[@ErCanEverything]

🙂🤝

[@espa_py7170]

Very good

[@93556108]

The 18650 lithium battery pack you inserted into the bike, does it now have the same charging source from the bike as the earlier lead acid? Thank you.

[@judaclarkson5012]

nice video brother please what I would like to confirm is how many voltage is the battery each and how many do I need to put together to get that 12 volt 15 amp

[@bolivargomez7679]

Una pregunta ,esa moto es de combustión (gasolina),creí que era una moto eléctrica .muchas gracias .

[@khemay007]

Apakah setelah di pasang di sepeda motor akan automatis terisi atau tidak

[@chrisdonovan677]

Maybe I missed it, but is the overheating protection in place ? this is foundamental.

[@fireguardburnt]

In this application the battery is isolated from the engine, so overheating is less likely.

[@yogeshnaik9276]

How will this charge on DC from magnet coils ...as this BMS needs CV cp current

[@Resolvendo-e-descobrindo]

Essa BMS suporta o pico de corrente da partida ?

[@donancantv3801]

Helal olsun Şapka Çıkardım Fakat ICR pillerin (LAPTOP dan çıkma) max desarj akımı düşük olduğu için yüksek amper çektiği için uzun vadede sorun yaşanmasın ?

[@electronic7979]

👏👏👏

[@dgsouza89]

Usually motorcycles charge batteries with 14.5v max, is this ok to charge a 12.6v 3s battery? Won't it overload?

[@NyamkhandKhalzankhuu]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@antoniooliveira1501]

excelente video, parabens pelo projeto, gratidao

[@ErCanEverything]

Thanks Friend🙂🤝

[@onnoanik]

Can i use 40a bms for bike battery?

[@ErCanEverything]

Not because the defense turns on and doesn't rotate the starter

[@Edmorbus]

Thanks for sharing

[@avi-crakhome2524]

Скутер на аккум выдаёт 14.3V, удачи в эксплуатации.

[@ErCanEverything]

I know this but the BMS in this battery turns off charging after the voltage reaches 12.7~12.8V

[@avi-crakhome2524]

​@@ErCanEverything It is very difficult to convince a person who believes in BMS. But still. You need an oscilloscope, you need to disconnect the battery with the engine running, and look at the voltage waveform of the scooter's on-board network. Almost all models have voltage spikes up to 70V, they will look like needles. Interference energy is sufficient to disable bms keys. The solution is very simple - add a capacity of 10000mF * 16V to the battery terminals.

[@ErCanEverything]

You are right. That is not a bad idea to add a capacitor. Thank you🙂

[@uniqueanimals8977]

that was perfect. But my question is, can the engine charger charge this battery? 2- And this module has 5 cells. Is there any problem with charging the batteries?

[@vasilemihai8456]

yes

[@mrcleanisin]

Will the scooter charge the lithium battery?

[@RosemaiMacalino]

Boss ano ung my diode or mga capasitor mkakabili kaba nyan plug n play ba

[@1981dasimpson]

it would be better to do 4s and undercharge then 3s and overcharge

[@konix148]

Super! 2 questions: 1. how does the zinc plate (not the flattened copper wire) get on top of the cell? 2, is charging the motor good for the Lithium-Ion battery? Thank!

[@Chairman750]

Those are used batteries and the flat tin is the old connection between them. The circuit board allows the alternator to charge the batteries safely. I have a spot welder to reweld the batteries together with new flat tin. Either way if fine.

[@konix148]

@@Chairman750 OK thank you! Unfortunately, I don't have a spot welder - I can do it: DIY?

[@atifkhantvofficiai]

Nice

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂

[@joelfiat147]

what amperage for the BMS?

[@devsankhla5307]

Good bms is protection bettery

[@EFDawahWiseLanternDen]

slm aleykum Ercan kolay gelsin...satin aldim bende 4s aynisni yaptim ...pilleri tam 16.8 den 14v dusurdum discharge yapip ve bms taktim ....super calisiyor vespa motorsiklet 14,4 volt veriyor......ama sen dedin 5A max sarj yapicalak...internette bu bms 60A charge oluyor yaziyor...nedenini sorabilirmiyim ?? pillerim high discharge 10A ve 4 tane yan yana toplam 16 pil...4s4p.

[@kiraws25]

What kind of solder do you use???

[@kalaythulay4543]

Can you charge directly with solar?

[@laszlovalki8884]

Hi. I did it too, perfect. Thanks for the video.

[@ErCanEverything]

But check that it still does not heat up and measure the charging current.

[@laszlovalki8884]

Everything is fine, it doesn't heat up. And the charging is also optimal. Thanks again.

[@ErCanEverything]

I am glad, Thank you🙂🤝

[@adnabandasha3201]

Nice bro ..what was the cost of all this ...

[@genelkonular2638]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@duende2524]

Do you think it can operate in a honda 600cc motorcycle?

[@ErCanEverything]

Not sure but it should🙂

[@امجدابوحسين-س5د]

Amazing... My question is, does the amount of charging voltage coming from the bike's charging coil affect the L(BMC) of the lithium-ion batteries... Thank you.

[@ErCanEverything]

The voltage is around 14.4V, but the most important factor is the charging current, which should not exceed 8-10A. Which in my case is on the order of 5A

[@ainhoasamford8046]

Otra buena idea, voltaje no ácido dirá el motor de arranque y las lámparas de alumbrado

[@SLBackToLifeRepair]

is it safe? have overcharge protection and short protection ? and i want to know my bike has a 12v 7a battery and my bike charging voltage come 14.9v .i have 25A (hx-3s-fl25a) bms . can i use like this battery pack without damage my rectifier

[@ErCanEverything]

This BMS has short circuit protection and recharge protection, which interrupts charging at 12.6 ~ 12.9V. You must know, when the battery is fully charged interrupts the circuit to the battery until it starts to consume from battery.

[@SLBackToLifeRepair]

@@ErCanEverything however can i use this battery in my bike ?

[@SLBackToLifeRepair]

@@ErCanEverything sir my rectifier out 13.9v charging current when race my bike can i use this bms ?

[@SLBackToLifeRepair]

@@ErCanEverything i use my 25A bms my bike self start will work ?

[@ErCanEverything]

This BMS supports 100A and I think it will work properly. But I did not use for a long time and do not know what will be the effect after a while

[@jaciks]

your scooter alternator support charging for lithium batteries?

[@ErCanEverything]

Charges with 14.4V but the battery after reaching 12.7 ~ 12.8V BMS turns off charging

[@RichardGillo-ano-lu2nt]

There are many direct lead-acid battery replacements with Li-ion cells. The easiest way is to contact a Li-ion battery packer such as Lithium Batteries,Motorcycle Batteries,Solar Batteries,KOK Power Limited that specializes in automotive, motorcycle and eBike batteries as drop-in replacements

[@Thomas-yr9ln]

What my dad would call American ingenuity.

[@babsap]

c est le BMS qui gere la tension de 14.4 v fourni par l alternateur ??

[@dillipdas4509]

Not survive

[@nayananaik2423]

Let me know how chip as compared to readymade battery. Just ask.

[@ErCanEverything]

The capacity is 3 times more and almost 2 times lighter

[@grandphycoman]

Nice video. What is the name of the tape you mount on the + and - side of li ion bat prior to soldering.

[@ErCanEverything]

Crushed copper wire

[@ALEXANDR9911]

Nice 😊

[@t.nitheesh5898]

Bro i have dought, you used different mah battery right as i could see, like samsung and other type. Will it work properly.

[@ErCanEverything]

All batteries are from the same type of vacuum cleaner wich I bought from the bazaar. However, the batteries are from different manufacturers, so I decided to put them parallel to the others so as not to unbalance. Otherwise, if I put them in parallel, there would be a problem with balancing maybe.

[@ErCanEverything]

But it was not have of the same type. So I decided to put them parallel to the others. It is important that 3 × 3 are the same and you can arrange 8 rows this way. If you do not have the same batteries on hand.

[@t.nitheesh5898]

So they may get discharged at different rate right, would it not affect there life span.

[@ErCanEverything]

For example we have 2 batteries, one with a capacity of 4Ah and the other with 2 Ah. Their total capacity is 6Ah. When connected in parallel, both batteries are discharged equally. Most current flows through the more powerful battery and there is no way to discharge the low-power battery faster because they are connected in parallel. But as you say, the best option is to have the same batteries.

[@t.nitheesh5898]

Last dought,. Would it not distroy the smaller battery which has lower ah.

[@wahabfikri4207]

Bravo pour le moment je suis en

[@Sandokans]

Yes ok, but for charging liion is different kind of charging constant voltage

[@ТехноФікс]

Дуже круто но я раз припаяв провода і тоді в бутилку стягнув а так дуже круто

[@ErCanEverything]

I did so, because there was not enough space to bring the cables at random. And I wanted to use as many batteries as possible🙂 Thank you🙏🤝

[@ТехноФікс]

@@ErCanEverything understand

[@Broken_AK47]

its not charging tho ? to charge a 12v battery ( 12.3-12.5 to be exact ) you need MORE than that. at 12.6 it will keep it in its state ( running with NO additional load ), but to CHARGE it, it must be at least 13v. ideal is 14.0-14.7v. some OEM see peak at 15.0v but never stays there. so how do you charge it ???

[@tofayelahmed3966]

Will the batteries charge using only P- pin?

[@AlbertoDiGiovanni]

technically all very good, but how much did you spend? surely by buying the original battery you save.

[@ErCanEverything]

I bought the batteries cheaply from damaged vacuum cleaners. When I need a 12V battery for camping, I will take it with me because it has 3 times the capacity of a lead acid battery.

[@abdulrahmanabdulrahman7939]

Nice sir good

[@akram10211]

Which type of BMS you used??

[@ErCanEverything]

There is a link in the description 100A

[@AzizEkinci]

Theraphy :)

[@MyIstrice]

just a simple question......I wanna do a rap what should I focus the most on when I wanna edit or make a good soft?i would love to

[@salipk6678]

ഇത് എത്ര mh ബാറ്ററി ആണ് എത്ര എണ്ണം വേണം എങ്ങനെയാണ് കണക്ഷൻ എന്ന് വിവരിച്ച് തരുകയായിരുന്നെങ്കിൽ ഉപകാരമായേനേ

[@oz457]

IT WORKED FOR ONLY 3 DAYS. I made this battery, but after 3 days, the BMS failed (the BMS mentioned in the description). It seems the current coming from the alternator and the voltage of the battery has a too high differentia. So don't make it. Waste of money.

[@markkay8117]

it failed, because in normal conditions alternator produces around 13,5-14 volts DC , to charge original Lead Acid battery. in this video voltage in the system was always 12 volts, meaning alternator on this bike was faulty or disconnected. Battery that was shown in this video is not suitable as direct replacement for the Lead Acid battery.

[@inatiofariua4063]

Avec la différence de voltage il y a pas de risque que le BMS crame ou que les cellule chauf avec la surtensions ? 14v et 12,6v il y a une sacrée difference ☝️

[@Bi_Club]

perfect

[@ErCanEverything]

Thank you🙂🤝