Eric Hovind meets Greydon Square

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[@cartmanrlsusall]

this was a total backfire creation today the athiests came out on top in this clip

[@PavelRogala]

Confidence comes from the latin "confidere" meaning "full trust", which is not the same as faith.

[@cartooniverse8891]

o.O I have no idea what the purpose of these videos are. They single handedly made me an Atheist

[@Daniel-dc5mr]

really?

[@ScientiaPerceptum]

Isn't it interesting that every time Eric goes out in public to question people or make a video, HE is the best provides the best evidence against creationism and for atheism.

[@10Cicegim]

lolz, he did not had a second question prepared xD, and Greydon is an Iraq War veteran cant mess with him.

[@Gada101]

I'd like to see a longer interview with Greydon, he handled those questions like a boss!

[@cartmanrlsusall]

this is awesome eric falls for the im a clown look and finds out he is talking to an intelligent ,well spoken man.seems like many atheists have studied religion more than theists

[@jamesfrazier4005]

This interview is a joke and the guy was totally just tip toeing around what Greydon was saying

[@spinosauruskin]

Greydon did that perfectly

[@louisluggak6342]

Greydon Killed him

[@Sylinic]

Everyone should support Greydon and buy his albums that are super cheap on Bandcamp if you Google it, only like 5 bucks for 18 song per album, insane. My favorite artist, along with Immortal Tech.

[@MattiasDavidsson]

Beautiful display of how to disarm theists, and hair.

[@greydonsquare]

haha, yea, I should go with that look at every debate.

[@vladbcom]

Well said, Greydon.

[@toddmoorephotography]

it looks like Eric was unable to get his message across. Greydon was pretty articulate. and i think that got Eric off guard. i notices he couldn't remember if he had any more questions

[@thetrav2100]

killed it greydon, guy had stupid dumb questions, put it infront of me and show me proof it exists and ill belive you until then we all can be wrong.... and science has proven time and time again that things can be rewritten and nothing is set in stone..., now we got people thinking the world is flat n shit... hey show me a universe where it is and ill believe you, until then ima stick with galileo.

[@TheBestMovieAlive]

He makes great music too.

[@Eric23er]

Confidence: Confidence is generally described as a state of being certain either that a hypothesis or prediction is correct or that a chosen course of action is the best or most effective.

[@amindlost]

confidence c.1430, from L. confidentia, from confidentem, prp. of confidere "to have full trust or reliance" "Faith" can be a synonym, but it is not the Latin root of confidence. Faith, in the context of religion, is believing without evidence.

[@Viktir123]

+a1seus "Black Barbie?" That's a weird term to use for him.

[@NickWillSteele]

Having faith is belief without proof, being confident requires proof for that confidence!!

[@putthisonmytab]

Greydons fro lol Seems a little like the guy asking the questions was reaching for them a little, like he wanted that gotchya moment. I could be wrong. Good answers Grey.

[@Treerootz1]

"You need information you cant trust" oh the irony. Saying "you can trust me!" is funny because if people really could trust you, you wouldnt have to tell them that.

[@pauldhoff]

Greydon Square, Love how you took the wind out of Eric Hovind, it was beautiful, thank-you. Paul

[@Yusuf1187]

Hovind tries to make a false equivocation at the end by implication. When he says that the root of faith and confidence are the same in latin, that is irrelevant. The concepts of faith and confidence are different regardless of their origin - like many other words with the same origin - and most importantly, the REASON you are confident in a belief is what we're debating .

[@ScientiaPerceptum]

LOVE It. Thank you Greydon for shutting Hovind Jr. up at 1:40 Eric knows he has failed at that point

[@greydonsquare]

You are welcome, however, i'm not sure he thought that question out.

[@ScientiaPerceptum]

That is very apparent. Also it is evidence he was distracted by your continuous picking of your fro.

[@JidoKashi]

Even though I grew up watching Hovind a lot, he did a pretty miserable job in this video.

[@jkoehler82]

It is true that faith and confidence has a similar origin with the old french word "fidere", but you are correct that they have different uses in Modern English. It is almost like trying to pose similarity in meaning to the words like accuracy and cure which have a similar origin in Latin "cura" which means to cure...They mean different things.

[@bluntrapture]

I love Greydon. And he's very picky. (Ha ha, see what I did there?)

[@Siccn_Iksentrik]

Idk what was worse, how hardcore Eric failed with his logic and covering of false intentions, or the fact that he was too stupid to recognize it.

[@BWBloom]

I don't get why we don't just settle this the easy way. Why can't we just have Hovind and Greydon take properly administered IQ tests side by side, and then we declare the person with the higher IQ right?

[@lauracaskey2753]

Eric, love the video. Keep up the good work! God bless your ministry! Ignore the trolls. They seem to be on your channel so you must be doing something right

[@PA1RofRaggedClause]

"confidence" does not come from the Latin for "faith." "Confident-em" means something similar to faith: "firmly trusting, reliant; self-confident; bold, daring; audacious, impudent" (OED), and perhaps at this point I'm splitting hairs. But it doesn't literally mean "faith"; Hovind is imbibing his own understanding of faith in his understanding the etymology of the word "confidence." Besides, it doesn't matter the Latinate root; the words mean related but different things in today's vernacular.

[@MrFranzisko]

If I had the ability to grow a 'fro like that I would.

[@0myjoe]

Gotta love greydon square, he's epic!!!

[@BJoinedBReality]

O.G. stands for Original Greydon

[@miguelbrito7823]

the end is so funy. "Solid information"

[@Bystronicman08]

Na, man. That's Greydon Square.

[@podge2525]

Next question?

[@Bystronicman08]

Oh, that guy next to Eddie is Mc Brooks. He's a rapper too. You should definitely check him out.

[@JeremiahMathews]

Hovind owned

[@EroticWhale]

Your being sarcastic right? Lol

[@EroticWhale]

Oh they meant he got owned I misinterpreted as they thought hovind did the owning.

[@dinosaurwalker]

also, I have to wonder, why doesn't Hovind argue against atheists at the Reason Rally with using creationist arguments instead of trying to use tricky semantics? correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Hovind's known for their creationist ministry? if creationism is so definitely true, and if the evidence is for it is so strong, then why not focus on arguments based on creationism? the fact that Mr. Hovind refuses to do this against people well-versed in science seems quite odd to me.

[@jacopman]

Why do faith based views need to have defenders of the faith? Why does Hovind claim his ministry helps strengthen the faith of the believers? If the God of the bible is a fact...like gravity...why do you need to have apologists like Hovind, WLC or any others? I don't see scientists having studies to strengthen their belief that gravity works or that they have to defend the workings of gravity from nonbelievers. Gravity is a fact of reality but faith is not a fact in reality.....that is why.

[@WoodsRlee]

yes, and that no one else would have been nearly as cooperative. i would not stand and let someone ask the same question over and over like an idiot. Eric had a point and admitidly it was not a bad point, but it droned on for 45 mins. 45 mins of "but your not sure". its the exact same as we have all heard 1000 times before. its pointinf out that athesim allows doubt. thats all he managed to accomplish when the hiulight was, you have to abandon atheism to prove there is not a god.

[@TheMarkNessMonster]

"Fides"(the root that Hovind is referencing as the eytomological foundation of confidence) is not a term that strictly means faith. Faith is one interpretation of the term, the other are reliance and trust, which are terms placed upon concepts, people, or things that have evidence in one form or another which has caused the earning of reliance or trust. Hovind loves to play word games, but I'm the better cruciverbalist here, and I know how to use the internet as well.

[@JustinArdolino]

So it turns out that the interviewer is correct in that the word "confidence" comes from the Latin root word "fid" which means "faith." This does nothing to explain the fact that the claims made by the interviewer and his belief system are true and factual. This seemed like a Red Herring to me, having stated it with the confidence of a person who knows the interview is drawing to a close and will have the last word by virtue of that fact alone.

[@sdasdssadsd6602]

lol ok so confidence is on par with faith. I mean, ya it depends on how you use the word so what..... what does that have to do with anything about god. Hey eric did you know that faith is a belief that is not based on proof. Now thats something for god. How can you have faith in god but then have proof of his existence.

[@s1lkysl1m83]

ok disregard my response to you in your inbox. relying on my hs latin education, ha, ive conjured up memories of the latin, "confidere". thus, i see that you are correct. but yes, more importantly, we are missing the point. getting ourselves tied up in word games! ha

[@michaelbutcher6243]

Well done Greydon. The only way to absolute knowledge is the admission that we don't know everything. While he claims to know God and know everything, he can't produce that God. I do believe they'll try to crucify Kirk though, that'd be nice.

[@annarandell]

I wouldn't even give Hovind that much credit. Fidere means "to BELIEVE", so confidence means "WITH BELIEF" FAITH is a BELIEF without evidence. Ergo, confidence is not faith. I do agree that it was a cheap shot by Hovind but it is completely unsurprising.

[@EzekielTheWatchman]

Karen Owens has captured this witty little paradox in equally engaging verse: Can omniscient God, who Knows the future, find The omnipotence to Change His future mind? Logical people please like this... It's the perfect catch 22 for their god.

[@boejiden6587]

Eric hoven's second question is a gotcha question. He wants to get him to say that they wouldn't worship the Christian God even if he was real. And supposedly if an atheist says that that makes him foolish and unreasonable. Gradon turns it right around on him with a logical and eloquent answer

[@1972badass]

i like how eric hovind went to the reason rally and everyone seemed very civil and even nice to him i wonder what would happen if greydon square and thunderf00t went to a christian rally talking about atheism ?

[@jimjam2783]

I didn't think Bruce Lee really meant that lol, Greydon might have learnt something about how a theists mind works

[@Ironriot11]

That "confidence comes from faith" thing was total BS. Confidence is a derivative of confide, which comes from the Latin "fis, fide", meaning trust, and "con" which means with.

[@jimjam2783]

"A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." - Bruce Lee

[@PassifloraCerulea]

OMG "confidence" = "faith". Lookit mommy, the big bad atheist said he has faith! That means like...wait, that doesn't seem to mean anything much at all. Nice try though...

[@MrGeodee]

I had confidence that the Detroit Tigers would beat the San Fransisco Giants in the World Series too, but like faith in deities, they let me down;so much for faith.

[@Debonair.Aristocrat]

Dear Mr CreatardToday. Why does your proposition have to start with "if"? And why is it your responsibility to prove a god exists? god can't do that for himself?

[@Ragnarockalypse]

Hovind can play his little word games and resort to masturbatory semantics. Red herrings, straw men, arguments from ignorance; fallacy upon fallacy upon fallacy.

[@kainedamo]

It is irrelevant if Hovind thinks that the word confidence comes from the word faith when Greydon defined how he meant to use the word - "Confidence in things that have evidence to support them" That is NOT faith. Having faith in something is to have a belief WITHOUT evidence. This is just another example of Hovind being a dishonest twit and trying to trip people up with word play rather than ask meaningful questions with context.

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

What I found hilarious is that eric hovind actually asked Greydon Square if he "had any beef against Christianity"... LMAO! He seemed like he was a little scared because he was talking to a large black man so he had to bring out his "street cred" in his knowledge that the word "beef" was slang for "a grudge" or "ill feelings". Silly eric, your religion has done some SERIOUS damage to your brain... ¬_¬

[@LucyHarcarty]

i've already answered 2 times--i'll try again though, it's not....LOGICALLY it makes no sense don't you agree?>, since it would be the only one of its kind obviously it doesn't reproduce sexually; therefore it has no gender....even if it has what we would call a penis it won't be 'male' in the human sense. but it's REFERRED TO as 'He' (in Judaism etc) bc of a combination of historical reasons including sexism, gendered language, anthropomorphism....

[@saintbradford]

You're so slimy, Eric. I notice in all of these "interviews", you just ask a bunch of leading questions over and over, hoping the person will slip up so you can go "Ah-HA!" It didn't go so hot did it? I saw how irritated you got when Greydon wouldn't let you put words in his mouth. You tend to give a slicker presentation than your dad did, but I think he'd probably be embarrassed to see how you got handled at the Reason Rally.

[@mikelopez3708]

"Do you know that you can't know anything?" LOL? THE PERSON ASKING THE QUESTIONS IS OUT OF HIS MIND. I am a Christian myself, and Greydon is a very smart intellectual. Most Atheists wouldn't say this, when he said that it's possible for him to not know the truth. That's smart. Really, its is. Greydon Square's my man! And his little brother, Kevin Durant!

[@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM]

is that Tombstone da deadman?

[@Freethinker_94]

Yes

[@LucyHarcarty]

well it would be up to you but since (if it were proven) you'd have to admit you deserve no credit for much of that & the "god" as you say would then it's not all that logical, is it? what makes you say perverted? i never heard about any of that, why don't you explain more, it's a serious charge.

[@TheCurmudgen]

How many times is Hovind going to be told his song and dance is nonsense before he gets it?

[@jimjam2783]

yeah he was very natural, I really want him to do a rap battle with a theist it would be epic

[@soulinthewall77]

Good stuff. Greydon Square, in conceding that any claim he may make is falsifiable shows that he honors the principles of science.

[@LucyHarcarty]

? i'm not aware of any stories about The Lord doing that, bc i'm imaginative i guess you might mean the Immaculate Conception--but that would have been 'immaculate' obviously, so you'd be wrong + for several other reasons i expect

[@crazyfordhat]

Grey handled that very well, erick acted like an idiot once again, couldn't ever remember the question he always asks everyone.

[@SSJ3Ulcer]

Eric, don't worry man: you could potentially make a lot of money, as well, by coming out as an atheist. Think about it.

[@LogicalStatements3]

Again Eric, Do the SCIENTIFIC rubber band experiment and convert these heathens, I promise they won't laugh at you. : p

[@danlane9917]

Why does Eric Hovind make this videos?? They are laughable , especially when he falls back on some word play paradox.

[@EroticWhale]

Ha ha the last statement was completely false XD confidence comes from the Latin word confidere meaning to have full trust lol ignorance

[@rytmen]

divine evidence hahahah what a joke... i dont think you understand the importance of source reliability.

[@AllThreeWitches]

Ode to the art of young earth sophistry. That's one thing you can say about this style of press interview street preaching, you don't really find such strong examples of semantic word play and premeditated trick questions among many other groups as you do in the ranks of these guys. The way everything is a game with them, word games, attempts at logic traps, loaded questions, the list goes on really, anything to spin the conversation in their favour. But whatever.

[@gilesw9178]

con fidence fidence is derived from the Latin fides faith or trust con is derived from a suffix meaning together so the com (con again) binatiotn of the words means a faith supported by other confirming sources and not requiring the blind trust or faith. Feeble semantics, Hovind! F

[@LucyHarcarty]

well apart from the word 'created', yes obviously--that's not disputed by anyone as far as i know.....what's your point?

[@LogicalStatements3]

No I am saying rape happens to this day and "god" watches it........... that is perverse.

[@SkaIathrax]

Agreed: I think the lexical item is finagling (w/ a hint of pleonasm).

[@0myjoe]

Greydon is actually amazing. His words of wisdom touch us all

[@low351orig]

confidence the feeling or belief that one can rely on someone or something; firm trust. greydon has this confidence because of facts and testable evidence to back it up not faith while yes faith and confidence have similar meaning there is a difference. greydon just wants proof that god is loving, exists, and so on for him to even consider worshiping him and none of that is in the bible. faith strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

[@0myjoe]

I was wondering why so many people disliked the video till i saw the last 30 seconds

[@MrJohnAlexanderG]

Alright, Creation today here's your chance, tell me why I should believe in a God?

[@yvesmartin4788]

I think this Eric Hovind twit is trolling and using atheist to get views on his channel, because there isnt on e video that he actually made sense in...not one! Atheist are just kicking his butt while he hold that stupid grin on his face...

[@mrmeatymeatball]

Guys, please check out Greydon's music. Even if you hate rap you won't regret it

[@melese1988]

This is one of those videos, that I'm not sure whether to like or dislike- HELP!

[@msc8472]

Sure you did.The other people were better debaters.You're not fooling anyone.

[@ProletarianTakeover]

God also thanked a father who gave up his daughters to get raped by a crowd rather than angels.

[@Layla5915]

lol, no. you just don't like TF because he was mean about your daddy :L

[@bearwoodcarpentry]

poor Eric ! always 'owned ' by people more intelligent than him ha,ha.

[@me25422]

"lets trick people into believing the God of the Bible"

[@Seffker49]

"I would like to see proof." "alright look it up."

[@brandonatkins3737]

dude was stumped when asked about other religions

[@KirbyPwnz13]

Afro man makes good statements. Good job! :D

[@ArkanumFour]

Hovind should be with his father.

[@mattsingleton5087]

Confidence: con fide nce: fide ) latin for faith

[@LogicalStatements3]

I will ask again, why is it a "he" ?

[@CookieDehler]

Eric answer 6th grade atheist round 2

[@ThePoignantViews]

faith is a synonym not the origin