Eric Weinstein - Why Does The Modern World Make No Sense? (4K)

[@ChrisWillx]

Hello you savages. Get a free list of my 100 favourite books - chriswillx.com/books/ Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 The Downfall of Harvard 11:02 Is This the End of DEI? 22:14 Are Legacy Admissions a Bad Thing? 29:58 Why Stephen Hawking is in the Epstein Documents 38:45 The Problem With String Theory 52:45 When Will it Be Time to Put String Theory Down? 56:00 The Current State of Aliens & UFOs 1:05:00 Technology Required for Aliens to Come to Earth 1:18:29 Why Can’t We Say Certain Things? 1:23:59 Eric’s Predictions for the 2024 Election 1:35:55 Wanting Fame is Like Wanting to Be on the Titanic 1:53:16 Society’s Nostalgia for a Unifying Narrative 1:59:57 Is There Power in Prayer? 2:15:14 Why Teenage Boys Are Becoming More Right-Wing 2:30:20 The Rising Trend of Toxic Compassion 2:38:10 The Letter Churchill Received From His Father 2:44:40 Why the UK Makes Eric Angry 2:55:37 What’s Next for Eric

[@KitaJabig]

I'm a simple man. I see Eric, I watch.

[@kungfujoe2136]

narrative storytelling ...sounds like simulation theory to me

[@codydog1700]

I like Eric but on Joe Rogan, his TDS was a bit too much.

[@Eric-vy6wd]

If it's Eric or Bret, I'm in....

[@ernestb7055]

Please bring in Martin Armstrong from Armstrong Economics.

[@russianfolktales3641]

A linguistics professor at Harvard was lecturing his class the other day. He said, " in English, a double negative forms a positive. However, in some other languages, such as Russian, a double negative remains a negative. But there isn't a single language, not one, in which a double positive can express a negative ." A voice from the back of the room piped up, "Yeah, right."

[@jimjamjerry]

Hahaha

[@MrNickEarly]

Solid hilarity right there

[@aquachonk]

An old joke, much circulated, not Harvard.

[@JohnDeanMusic]

​@@aquachonk just take the joke!

[@BlackJesus8463]

lol

[@pineapplesandthegovernment6522]

I swear no other podcast host/interviewer gets quite this level of upbeat, relaxed energy from Eric- it's great to see.

[@gps9715]

Yeah this was the best I've seen Eric. He's usually quite frustrating to listen to. Lots of word salad and empty pontifications. This was much more enjoyable.

[@dildofaggins731]

How so ? Jk 😊

[@mattk8810]

@@frankcooke1692he is known to be very smart and very involved in deep shit. He is a great philosopher that struggles to dumb down his speech

[@earthian3658]

I would beg to differ. I really enjoy the way Lex gets him to open up get along.

[@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners]

I was thinking the same thing. He seems to really enjoy showing him how smart he is. They have great chemistry.

[@steveturner1472]

I don't think Eric is arrogant. I believe he just thinks at a higher level than me and probably most of this audience. He doesn't disparage his colleagues, but actually defends them. He is open to being wrong, but requires evidence, and is willing to defend science with mathematics and data. I admire someone who is willing to openly discuss the many topics this interview touches. I also think Chris is amazing at asking for clarification and dumbing down the responses for those of us that don't have the background or IQ of these two people. New fan of both.

[@realestatesuzzi]

Indeed, a real scientist. That is how scientist are suppose to be. '

[@Kris-l3u]

That’s right….. his IQ is…. Outstanding.

[@RafaelAguilar1987]

I didn’t know Eric, but he seems to speak from wisdom. When you know know so much and yet make an effort to find simple words to explain is humbling. I don’t completely agree with his opinion but because of that I think I have seen things I’ve been missing.

[@solasolandra4175]

he comes across as having a MASSIVE ego...

[@skyethibodeaux9959]

A logical, rational, and discerning human being?!? Whhaaaaaattt?!?

[@tnt6715]

65 y/o lady here.... love Chris and Eric... I'm just a RN for 40 years and still working... These two are spot on about EVERYTHING! Brilliant minds...

[@anderander5662]

D.O. for 45 years, now retired....completely agree.

[@marilynspriggs5350]

You are not JUST an RN. Great respect for your occupation.

[@HumbleDriven]

Courage!

[@marilynndue6580]

Can't be "truly" understood- another level of synopsis

[@catchyovibe]

If you think these two are spot on about everything, please take your gown to the dry cleaners and get those spots out.

[@kiloyardstare]

Could we just have Eric on every month? He seems to be one of the only people spreading sanity.

[@jpthinks]

I concur

[@capitalofcambrom]

He's incredible, I could listen to him for hours and hours (and in fact just did haha)

[@DEANMORGAN-ej9du]

He is great! He does need a dose of his brother. Brett is better at explaining things to dummies like me

[@78dancosta]

He's great but he would be even better if he hadn't spent SO much time in academia. He's become unable to speak in a way that isn't condescending.

[@drts6955]

He's full of shit. But definitely interesting to listen. I can't believe he's still banging on about his theory about the CPI being fixed. He had a friend and economist on his own podcast who explained to him why he was wrong about it. And he's acting like that conversation never happened

[@user10cool]

I had the privilege of meeting Eric at a cafe last year. He was so humble and spent almost an hour talking to me and my group of friends. Funny enough, we talked about how we attend a Latin Mass Catholic Parish. God bless Eric.

[@CC-uq4hu]

He’s so clever and I love his wise eyes…what colour are they? I bet green

[@soonerbmama6727]

God bless you all.

[@josephlebard2061]

Jesus said no one comes before God except me , why do catholics pray to deities such as mother Mary, Peter, etc. That, to me, is non Christian do you not have fear for your soul . Lord be with you .

[@jadioris]

He’s humble in many ways yet so incredibly arrogant as well.

[@smeuchel]

​@@josephlebard2061 they do not pray to them they pray for their intercession. There is a difference. Think of it like asking a friend who works at city hall to talk to the Mayor for you.

[@Hard_7_Iron]

The very first time I heard Eric, I thought he was just pissed off. However, 40 plus years working in engineering made me want to hear more. Now I realize we got lazy with our thinking…or scared to speak when we realize (feel it in our gut) that something is wrong, we just go along to get along. I throughly enjoy hearing his thought process on various topics. Chris, your methods of getting those thoughts flowing is terrific. Thanks to BOTH of you for great conversation.

[@justsayin3600]

My first time listening to this podcast. Eric is brilliant.

[@brendansullivan3408]

Sounds like a charlatan to me. I know his cv. But seriously. On other episodes he thinks physicists should work to exit this planet wtf. And all the cheerleaders... I mean all these comments. What a joke. He expresses a couple good thoughts.. e.g. bashing modern acedemia and weak majors, string theory, etc. However I must say, he says what he wants and doesn't seem to worry about upsetting people.

[@nedhill1242]

lol! Eric is arrogant beyond belief. I have seen him for a few years. He always thinks he’s the smartest person in the room. At some point in every podcast he interrupts the person whose podcast he is on to tell him let me tell you what you’re trying to say or let me tell you why you’re right for the wrong reasons etc. etc. He thinks he’s the smartest person in the room, brilliant, while at the same time thinking he is equally aggrieved & victimized. I’ll take his brother Brett any day of the week and twice on Sundays over Eric!

[@brendansullivan3408]

We fight the good fight. I want someone that says all the sensible stuff without all the wacky stuff.

[@nedhill1242]

@@jacklondon999 Bravo! That is some first-class sarcasm, my friend. It’s a dying art, but I love when people know how to use it effectively!

[@judyweerstra9164]

I'm a Mexican American from a border town female, 77, two master degrees in cultural anthropology and theology, and author and I watch every one of Wienstien's interviews. Bravo for his wonderful mind!

[@lindataylor9683]

Your degrees mean nothing. How has your degrees changed your life? It appears that your degrees are what you lead with.

[@RealziesCuts]

523 days No Alcohol 🥇

[@ChrisWillx]

You're an animal. Congrats

[@wombatburrito5896]

Congrats buddy I’m three days in

[@theunluckycharm9637]

5 years sober off of heroin I now ride a motorcycle and am happy.

[@natekidwell]

Congrats. I'm almost at 8 months which beats my old record by 7 months.

[@sibusisondaba4354]

Congratulations!! I'm just a few weeks in

[@thomasmoss1066]

Harvard is done being respected.

[@RealziesCuts]

🦊

[@12coco100]

"The worlds biggest mass murders come out of Harvard University"

[@FazeParticles]

Academia needs to be regulated. Sounds weird but the lack of regulation gave birth to critical race theory and DEI.

[@mr.cantsay]

​@@FazeParticlesI'm sure the regulators hate the easy votes.

[@007bbox]

I suspect they don’t seek approval from strangers online

[@michaeljohnson1761]

I live in a rural area, drive a pickup truck, wear cowboy boots, have horses, would absolutely go see Nitro Circus, and I still watch every interview with Eric Weinstein that I can find. So, no, you wouldn't be completely unknown at the Circus.

[@casperblackwell6831]

Same!

[@WraithlingRavenchild]

You and I use race cars to race and education to be better informed. Judging from this interview, we would be out of place at Harvard.

[@felixzulauf2162]

Are you a serial killer

[@carefulcarpenter]

​@@WraithlingRavenchildI worked in the private residences of some of the most brilliant an powerful people on the planet. A highly-skilled carpenter who lives rural and drives to Silicon Valley. I haveca wide variety of experience, education, skill. I self-learned (5) high-skilled trades. Always fixed our vehicles. Did 24 years of research and discovered something that the brightest people like Eric and his brother likely could not wrap their heads around. Why am I so confident?

[@carefulcarpenter]

@@NDScope .... that you have seen on your phone. ☺ Eric admits that he is a narcissist. If sincerely true, and from the mention of stalkers he has had, then you may be in love with his charming persona?

[@tabithan2978]

My father went to Harvard and he laughed at its status as #1. Every time he came back from a reunion he’d tell us of his fellow classmates in jail!!!

[@DellaWatson-cz3mq]

Oh shxt, wasn't expecting that 😂

[@splintershield]

I was spellbound for all three hours. Incredibly thought-provoking. Thank you all!

[@RMHeemstra]

Yup.

[@dredrotten]

Yeah, some people can waffle on for a long time.

[@dermotmeuchner2416]

@@dredrottenyou listened through.

[@spudwesth]

Some lacunae

[@AustinKoleCarlisle]

"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

[@karolisz815]

Jiddu Krishnamurti ☝️🙏

[@DrBrainTickler]

Well then, I am the healthiest unhealthy person within this Romanesque dumpster fire emulation.

[@brendawilliams8062]

@@DrBrainTickler😂

[@domelessanne6357]

@@DrBrainTickler bad take

[@Future_looksbright]

This is fitting for today’s times. I shall wear this like a badge of honor

[@Ratinevo]

“Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things.” - G.K. Chesterton

[@Joey-bj5lq]

Like being civil...

[@Ratinevo]

@@Joey-bj5lq And forgetting that we are autonomous thinking individuals, not piles of sh!ts. They don’t understand anthropology at all.

[@Rishabh-Dev]

Like taking moral and Ethical values for granted. Sure shot recipe for decaying civilization.

[@lopa-u9f]

civilization is human domestication not a good thing, ever

[@AlyThree3]

@@Joey-bj5lq If we go by history... it was never really civil. LOL

[@PsilliPig]

Oh my gosh, the voice of sanity and brilliant observation. How wonderful to have met you, Eric. And thank you Chris, for inviting me to your party. I intend to distribute this podcast to my friends, old and young. A breath of fresh, clear air, this.

[@WreakHvok]

Crazy thing is I’m a Jamaican man from the Bronx New York with no specialties in anything he was talking about and I completely feel the same in most of his points.. and felt alone as if I was a crazy person asking some of the questions he is asking… honestly I’m surprised this isn’t censored!! You know elites hate people knowing the truth

[@veronicasavage814]

I feel the same. I grew up on Long Island and always told I'm wrong in my thinking every where else I've lived.

[@lovejumanji5]

@@veronicasavage814. Woot woot same ! People lack imagination, that’s sad .

[@rawthentictruth]

You don’t have to feel inadequate. You’re just as unique in yourself. When society wants to control people they do that by controlling the institutions we believe in: media, education, government, politics, economics, etc. These institutions are controlled by individuals, most of whom are buffoons, who decide what or who is smart and who is not. They determine what get said and heard and what should not. That’s exactly what Eric is explaining. You don’t need any human to tell you that you are not worth anything because the whole idea is for control. You’re who you are and nobody can ever be you. The problem with society today is that most people don’t have appreciation for their core identity and are looking for validation outside of themselves. So, there are constantly waiting for someone to tell them that they’re special. You don’t need that. You need to have appreciation for your core identity be the best version of yourself regardless of what others think or say about you.

[@HumbleDriven]

Courage!

[@julianneavery6995]

you are not alone. their are many of us. perhaps at different levels. the more i think about life the more i ask myself questions. I find I have came up with the same conclusions as Eric. perhaps not all. however the majority. guess what i live in a small village. it doesnt matter where one grew up their ethnic background or gender. people need to listen think not be followers of false ideals. keep open minds. thank you for sharing. Isnt it nice not to feel alone.

[@katiemcclain4758]

I never take the time to comment on podcasts because I listen to so many, but I wanted both you, Chris, and Eric, to know this conversation was one that needed to be had. I get lost in a lot of the physics rhetoric, but the bigger message isn't lost on me. This was a beautiful exchange, and I admire the courage of you both.

[@michaelrobinson1003]

Socratic method is alive, not so sure, outside of this conversation, and well.

[@ilja9230]

Dude this conversation is intense! The long pauses to give each other room to think and to see who will talk is poetry like. Well done bro!

[@antirealist]

I and many others have noticed these tendencies of his but am very surprised at how few see it and how many just buy into his "genius" at face value. I like the general ideas this guy brings up but he comes off as such a conceited "I know things neither you nor anyone else knows" narcissist that I can hardly stand listening to him. Mr. Weinstein: Stop pausing for dramatic effect so much as if we're just hanging on every word you say. You're not the smartest, richest, wisest, sexiest, most educated, most interesting or most accomplished person who's been on this podcast. Also, many of his sentences are just empty and lacking in genuine content. He simply hints at possible things, gives cryptic responses, or just babbles incoherently. Yes, he makes some interesting points but a lot of it is incoherent rambling and, I'll chance a guess, confabulation. Again Mr. Weinsein: You're just one of many who may have some interesting perspectives and ideas to present but that's it. Just say what you mean, give your honest opinion without all the theatricality, and have a real, genuine conversation.

[@andrejm77]

Nah, it's so pretentious from both... made me uncomfortable way too many times watching this podcast. Still it was great show.

[@___Truth___]

@@andrejm77 You’re way too used to noises. Silence & clear words let alone clear thoughts will help you.

[@teIezet]

@@antirealist when exactly did he claim those things you mentioned? are you basing all that on the fact that he makes long pauses?

[@vargas0897]

​@@antirealistOn what did you base your conclusion that he acts this out and it is not genuine? Do you know him personally?

[@mysterymanla6158]

Not only is Eric wonderfully refreshing to listen to, but the interviewer is also excellent! He gives Eric plenty of room to digest his own thoughts and feelings as he progresses. That is a highly professional gift. 👍🏼

[@tomorrowtodaylane]

I genuinely think you TWO speaking together has become one of my favorite things on KZbin. Thank you for this!👏👏

[@douglasborgstrom2023]

Eric is one of the most brilliant minds of our time. Please bring back the portal. I for one, am listening. Thank you, Chris. These discussions are invaluable to our world view.

[@IanG-tu1mb]

lol

[@DrBrainTickler]

Yeah, even though this is slightly watered down wisdom. There is a lack of existential intelligence and a hint of a myopic tendency.

[@CountMeOut33]

right…

[@TheLuminousOne]

please, stop with the fawning 🤦🏼

[@douglasborgstrom2023]

@@TheLuminousOne since i posted that comment,i i have decided im not really a fan

[@jimbopeebles8210]

This conversation started off so good and then got exponentially better.

[@TheWisdom3]

Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@SubvertTheState]

I would say it got better in a linear progression.

[@eliteexcavationpros]

thought it would be put me to sleep, half way through and i’m getting coffee

[@jimbeam4736]

@@doglifehub But he would be too polite and soft spoken to even mention it.

[@andy347]

I keep coming back to Chris Williamson with Eric Weinstein podcasts. Most of the time I’ll see a video that’s 40 minutes long and think oh God I can’t listen to anything that long. I see one with them that’s three hours long and look forward to the next three hours. Eric’s polymathic wealth of knowledge is fascinating, and Chris is very intelligent in his own right and is very adept at drawing out Eric‘s interesting ideas and adeptly reveals his own experiences or a timely saved tidbit of someone else’s observations that neatly mesh into a wandering, but highly fascinating conversation. I’m sure I am like others here in that it feeds my brain. The three hours go by too quickly.

[@sr20veplus350z]

I don’t follow either of these two men religiously (even though I like them both), but man it’s hard to quantify just how much I love them together in conversation. They just have some special level of chemistry. Never step on each other in response or expression (even through extended pauses, which inadvertently end up punctuating certain times), always bounce things back and forth in a very entertaining way, somehow always ask for further clarification or exploration almost in lockstep with when I would personally ask the same, and very eloquent speakers that use detailed and colourful language. without it feeling like it pomposity. I’m watching this for my second time after watching a few weeks ago. Lucky to have free access to such quality ❤️

[@rickelpers1820]

This is a respectable conversation you hardly ever hear .

[@debslagel1132]

I follow Chris and can tell you, this man in any interview I’ve seen is like this with everyone. He’s amazing and well versed in many subjects. If he isn’t he does his research or asks questions in a way to find the answers that maybe he couldn’t before. I find many of the conversations he has is interesting even if I don’t know much about the topics 🙌🏼 ❤️

[@SuitedPup]

Having just watched snippets of this episode so far and about to begin watching it in full, I’m impressed as well by your breakdown and genuine, heartfelt complimenting and appreciation of others work that you find value in, thanks for contributing and spreading the positivity 🙏

[@brendawilliams8062]

Agreed

[@katjamoltgen5456]

Well spoken

[@ebf336]

Eric's discussion of the power of music and prayer and the link between them really moved me. I study music history and culture for these exact reasons. The way we think, talk, socialize and even entertain ourselves is rooted in spirituality, even if we don't immediately see or feel it. There is power in the mundane, even things we don't associate with being spiritual, religious, etc. Even if you don't believe in a higher power, you can find the transcendent in the simplest things. The art and culture we make and the spiritual practices we engage in are so deeply and beautifully linked.

[@GaZonk100]

today's spirituality is manifested in DEI which is basically christianity without the God. . .

[@sallyharrison8265]

Very moving . He is not an atheist, I could see God's Grace wash over him. Interesting.

[@vijaz5559]

This is the same guy who whines at elon about why his video with tucker carlson isn’t trending 😂😂😂 ya’ll sheep

[@jdaze1]

Finding the TRUE God of creation requires removing yourself from all distractions and that includes music which plays on the emotions and feelings of man. God communes with those who seek his wisdom and knowledge ABOUT who he really is thru the mind and thru the wisdom hidden within the words that seriously falable men tried to put in writing. Those that seek these writings long enough eventually find the hidden truth within all the distractions and hyperbole. Over the last 3k years that has been very few. As God calls them the "little flock". This truth has NEVER been mainstream nor known by the masses, intellects, scientists, religions, politicians, the Pope, the Kings, the universities, the monks, the Budah, etc. Only the very few that seek the TRUTH about God while knowing one must separate fact from mans fiction ever get close to understanding the cosmos and the true meaning to life and death.

[@user-yk4gd1fl4z]

Music is dead. AI has shot right between the eyes. Unfortunately.

[@AstroBioMan]

What the hell, I would never have trusted my advisor to defend my thesis instead of me - it's not his role to be the expert in what I did. That's insane

[@likwidsun2303]

I don't think Eric it fleshed it out here, the way he has in other interviews. My understanding is, they shut him down, not because he did a poor job on his argument, but because they didn't like the subject. They do not believe it speaks well of physics to indulge in what they consider to be the fantastic…? (this is my, very poor interpretation of what occurred.)

[@knowahnosenothing4862]

@@likwidsun2303 String theory is a religion and the gatekeepers it's zealots, my take.

[@vandogtrailer6701]

​@@likwidsun2303 Eric did receive his PhD from Harvard. They didn't shut him down by not giving him the degree. I think it's important to listen to what he said about the two faces of Harvard to understand why they handled it like that.

[@joseaguirre744]

Physics is a pseudoscience.

[@boburanus69]

@@knowahnosenothing4862 Most of what we discuss right now in physics is religion. Quantum this, teleportation that, worm holes, spacetime, all of it is a belief held by people who can't bigger picture.

[@nancysaflarski1780]

Eric is so interesting! Great podcast questions Chris. Truly enjoyed this dynamic conversation

[@MajikMann-d5z]

I’m 48, and Harvard hasn’t been the “shining city on a hill” since affirmative action sunk its dirty talons into Harvard. Now, DEI makes the old affirmative action look conservative.

[@BenMJay]

“When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - You may know that your society is doomed." Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

[@williamh.gatesiii8183]

Most affirmative action went to white women.

[@Michael-qy1jz]

People are NOT getting this as a whole, and there is a 99.99% chance my comment is ghosted or erased, but>> This Warfare with woke, DEI, gender pronouns, open boarders and all this other stuff is there to BRING DOWN our institutions and our trust as subversion & demoralization programs run rampant in the west, mainly America. We may see the U.S implode and split, which is the GOAL of international Oligarchs/Corps.

[@q__________]

I don't agree with DEI. BUT, People are celebrating the glorious dismantlement of "DEI" at Harvard, but there doesn't seem to be any "DEI" actually being dismantled. Seems like the only tangible impact is the further chilling of political speech critical of Israel This is what actually happening. The people fighting for free speech became the first ones to silence it. Both the right and the left are frauds. One thing is clear: Don't criticize Israel in America.

[@BrownOpsLeak]

All according to plan

[@paulalexander823]

This is the first Modern Wisdom Episode I have watched. It was an absolute treat to watch you two sit there and have an actual conversation. My favorite parts were the extended periods of silence at the end of a thought and each were given the time to think about what was just said. I also enjoy the line "say more." This is now one of my top three casts and I can't wait for more.

[@spudwesth]

Watch Preston Dennet n

[@joyfulone1816]

Yes, humility and mutual respect are seriously lacking in important discussions in the last 2 decades. This was fabulous.

[@immortalsofar7977]

I wasn't planning on watching a 3 hour interview, even with Eric, but the video started and I didn't move for 3 hours.

[@MsElke11]

I was mesmerized too by the obscure language in the first hour, and then Eric started playing the blues and I felt like i found my soul brother.

[@wojecire]

This is how I felt precisely

[@shannamcdonough9588]

When I recently heard him - I was like this is one of the smartest person I've ever heard - glad he is not afraid to speak up - against some very dumb violent people

[@JP.Danny007]

Almost hypnotic!!

[@danielcillie1856]

​@@shannamcdonough9588he makes me feel smart and then very dumb again, especially when he says stuff like the 42:17 that goes over my head.

[@ferdinandakesse4078]

I know I'm the less science guy here, BUT I can listen to Eric for hours. So much to take here.

[@kosh6612]

"I don't know how to react, the world doesn't make sense anymore" (rough quote) - oh... that hits hard. I really appreciate hearing an adult and informed conversation. A rarity nowadays

[@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq]

Sex with animals, I swear it that a foreign lady I internet-dated admitted to me that his father had done it, I was so shocked, the Adams Family.

[@davidingham3409]

The world never did make sense.

[@KatJ3st]

Indeed

[@GlennErikMathisen]

The fact that it goes quiet for a few seconds sometimes only adds to the intensity and enjoyment. Both people take in what the other is saying, and give their best articulated response. I love that, and I listened all the way through

[@TheMrBigJeff]

I was starting to think it was just me: the silences, often times throughout this conversation, literally felt deafening. I had to check the video was still playing multiple times when they paused for so long: I wanted to know what they said next and… they were just thinking and it was really gripping. Ramble ramble - I liked your comment; happy days fellow travellers 🙏🙌☀️

[@ecatcheshire9741]

Allows me time to process what was just said- much more easeful to listen to and allows more depth in the conversation and the listener

[@digitalperson108]

Two very intelligent humans interacting.

[@jfkajeh4043]

The pauses for thinking through an answer are precious. A relief in this rapid-fire world.

[@freestylediamontae4498]

This was the first thought that I processed as well while listening and watching this interview! 🥂 What’s equally interesting is at least 106 of us are on the same level of agreement. These are the things that I appreciate in life. How fascinating it would be to organize a dinner with all of you and have an open discussion!

[@wl4446]

When Eric said he didn’t know why they are guarding the exit to “limitless energy “, I thought, “I have an idea why.” Those with great wealth and power are likely very comfortable with and quite fond of the current structure of our society. And such knowledge would completely disrupt that.

[@sunshinewalker6074]

Maybe, they have found the key and send everyone who could replicate the work, off into String Theory so that only they have the power? Jeffery was just keeping Tabs on who what working on what so that " they" would know who was getting close and needed a nudge " funding" away from discovery ?

[@leslielearnorth]

Yup. It’s very simple.

[@donaldrobertson1808]

I agree. Karl Marx was quite prescient in the predictions he made. But his proscriptions were monstrously wrong. Marxism & subsequent extensions to his philosophy is vile in every way. Being implemented as a form of governance has always led to catastrophic amounts of death, misery, bleak arrested development, dysfunction, & ultimate societal collapse This being stated & out of the way, his prescient predictions included that bourgeois capitalism is such an efficient powerful system of innovation that it would ultimate reduce industrial manufacturing processes would ultimately be reduced to information which has no cost. They will be able to manufacture goods so cheaply & abundantly that the price of their products would fall so low that they wouldn't be able to afford to pay their employees which render the masses with no money to pay for their practically free products. The economic model of bourgeois capitalism would collapse ending it as a viable system. Thus it would lead to its own demise However, the owner class would not go quietly into the night. This is because they never were truly interested in manufacturing products more efficiently to be more competitive to make a profit. It was the profits with the power that they brought to this class that was most important. It was even more important than the vast luxury & material comfort there wealth brought. They would never willingly give up this power, doing whatever were required to retain it. To move beyond the old economics of scarcity into a new era of abundance, the workers would have to engage in a violent revolution to overthrow the owner class & seize control of the means of production After deposing the owner class, & whatever means of governance & police enforcement that supported them, they would then set up a dictatorship of the proletariat which entailed establishing an absolute dictatorship by seizing all power & nihilistically murdering anyone who could possibly challenge them Next they would begin carrying out the communist revolution by removing all remnants of the old bourgeois order. This is when communism would become violent in a pathologically sick manner, becoming much more bloody & genocidal than what had already occurred during the workers revolution & the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat I don't see how it would be possible for a better more "just" & "equal" system to emerge with people being selfless to the point of voluntarily sharing all material wealth equally from such a morally depraved violent system that does not value individual freedom, individual life, or objective truth at all Up until recently I didn't think that Marx's prediction that the owner class would never willingly give up power was correct because I didn't like the idea of engaging in a violent overthrow of the government & bourgeois capitalism that I thought would be unnecessary. I still don't like the idea of engaging in violence & am willing to avoid doing so until the point of being violently attacked or being enslaved by having all rights & property stripped away with no possible way out in order to avoid such enslavement. You can be assured that such enslavement would quickly be followed by the slaughter of a large percentage of the enslaved population If we were to survive the end bourgeois capitalism & any attempt of the owner class holding on to power then the ensuing era would become interesting. Let's say that cheap limitless fusion energy & virtually full industrial automation led to the end of scarcity & bourgeois capitalism. We would then have an economics of abundance that would no longer require never ending increases in growth & consumption of resources in order to keep the economy healthy & providing employment & growth opportunity for most people. This would usher in the opportunity of ushering in a steady state economy that would require consuming an ever increasing amount of resources. TBC, growth in production would be achieved by becoming ever more efficient using the same amount of resources. With limitless cheap energy we could recycle much of our resources. We would still need to consume new resources but not an ever increasing amount of them. With the advances we could make in material science coupled with limitless energy we could minimize the amount of environmental damage incurred obtaining whatever new natural resources that would be necessary each year. TBC, in a steady state economy the amount new natural resources need each year would remain constant. We would also be able to afford mining near earth asteroids to obtain rare elements There would be a few serious social issues that would need to be overcome. How would this post bourgeois capitalist system be structured. I believe that we would need to make it as free & decentralized as possible. If we turned to centralized power, to implement such a new economy we would be assured that such power would end up crushing the individual, most of mankind, all freedom, human thriving & happiness. Perhaps it would crush humanity all together. We need to return to a liberal that provides true freedom as intended & has done so quite during various past eras. But it would do so much better than before avoiding the known mistakes & limitations of the past. How this could be achieved one could only speculate on at this time The other problem would be what to do with all of the unemployable people who would no longer be needed in the workforce to create abundance. An open ended BMI system will never be sustainable in the long run. Possibly BMI for life could be provided in exchange for reproductive sterility. Only people who earned a living by working would be allowed to reproduce. This would provide a one time massive reduction in Earth's human population over the course of a single generation. Be repulsed by it if you wish but it wouldn't involve such massive unwanted death & much less misery than what the monstrous course that our current global elite seem to have embarked on by culling the population through disease, poisoning by way of vaccines, possibly mass starvation by invoking artificial famine, economic collapse by restricting total energy use, & quite possibly the outright slaughter of populations. This would also involve depriving everyone of all freedom. This future of early death & misery that these monsters in the global elite & governing class have planned for us must be avoided by all means. It is vile, disgusting, inhuman,, & unnecessary for humankind to survive well into the indefinite future. It would probably be less likely to achieve its goals than if were to quickly go full steam ahead freeing people to work in groups among others as they wish & to engage in free discourse sharing information freely to maximize innovation & with system incentive guiding us on as straight forward of a course as possible towards developing cheap limitless energy & virtual industrial manufacturing automation to arrive at abundance, environmental sustainability, & a permanent greatly reduced risk of groups going to war with each other by no longer needing to fight over reduced resources

[@jacinda1385]

No invention will benefit the world of man, until I get the money for it in my hand. - Capitalism.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Remember 'Brasil'... This guy is Robert Dinero.

[@jaijai1132]

I am often guilty of living under a rock, so never heard of Eric Weinstein. Really grateful to come across this episode. What a dynamic thinker and it’s a rare treasure to experience someone who can actually explain their opinions. So much of the scientific conversation went over my head, but that’s exactly I loved. Conversations that cause us to pull out google means we are learning something new. This was dope!

[@josephnolan8217]

DEI, eliminates merit and is anti character based. It focuses everything on identity as opposed to character. I am convinced we will look back at this time and see it as being very racist, sexist, and bigoted. The recent lawsuits against DEI and ESG are going to be a wake up call for companies and universities. It has promoted people regardless of their merit or character. An unearned position is insane. The fact is it encourages quotas and anti talent hiring. We already have countless examples of it cost businesses and entertainment billions.

[@aftermath4096]

There isn't going to be any wake-up call. DEI nonsense is just a reflection of two underlying population-level philosophical beliefs: Collectivism vs Individualism.

[@imaginalex5850]

Yeah, and by listening to this guy, you are actually listening to the hypocrites running this show and these theatrical companies

[@OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld]

@@imaginalex5850 where in the fuck did you pull that stance from?

[@chrisschey7818]

Character is everything.

[@kahner93]

So I assume you're also against legacy admissions in colleges and nepotism within the workplace, correct?

[@mattsilberbauer3373]

Listened to this over 3 days… and uhhhh Eric is utterly, bewilderingly brilliant. What a pleasure listening to him. A true pioneer of thought. Well done to Chris, too, for orchestrating an excellent conversion that I shan’t forget soon.

[@josephpierre2827]

Hillary was inevitable, but the pilgrims looked the gift horse in the mouth and went with the Covid golden boy, Donald John Trump. "Muricans" will never cease to amaze.

[@JM-gs4bu]

"Where are you? Where are you with the power of the Word? Are you afraid to welcome it in? Are you worried that you'll lose your atheism?" Powerful questions, difficult questions.

[@dontmatter1368]

"I don't know how to react, there's no part of this world that looks sane to me" - this cuts deep 🖖

[@Foreverfallen88]

Hurts real good though yeah. Almost like one of JBPs many comments when he's failing to hold back the tears. Realize real life.

[@memyselfandi8544]

Because everything you have been taught about the world, was a deception. The secular reality is very compelling and alarming. But it’s a diversion from truth.

[@doesntno]

None of us are sane anymore. Why is our society and government like this? Why won't we all together stand up and shout "ENOUGH OF THIS!"

[@systemicsystems703]

You live in a fantasy, snap out of it!

[@disposabull]

@@doesntno Our leaders have deliberately created a hell world, an inverted reality to enslave us in delusion so they can destroy Western freedoms and rule over us. It's about power and control.

[@crisismanagement]

People are realizing that what they've trusted in is falling apart.

[@1x93cm]

by design

[@user-ic1lo9wh5f]

the most crazy part is that they trusted it in the first place

[@Tylerdagoat7]

@@user-ic1lo9wh5f exactly. Everything changes..and nothing is forever...Harvard? So thats one very small representaion of a huge country..and frankly Harvard doesnt understand anymore what really makes up this country. Im not of a place "of priveledge" but that doesnt mean I don't have the ability to think, reason and progress. Harvard....whatever...

[@charleswalker2484]

You're still trusting someone like Weinstein then you're in for another rude awakening

[@dougg1075]

It was all a lie. The central banks run our world

[@richardpaczynski5486]

What a pleasure to see another side of Professor Weinstein’s personality. Watching him riff on guitar and talk about religious iconography made just about everything else he said on this podcast carry much more weight. That’s my take. Thank you Chris & Eric

[@geometerfpv2804]

He is not a professor by any measure, don't call him that. He has a PhD, which is many, many ranks below professor. You can call him "doctor".

[@benegeserit1]

Wow! When Eric sings songs that move him religiously, all of a sudden he sings with confidence, holds the tune, comes alive… wonder if he or Chris noticed this. Amazing!

[@ronjennings7533]

"Lying, lying, lying is the substrate of our society." Nailed it.

[@MrRmann1234]

A hallmark of Marxism.

[@Dragonladyrvrr...]

Usually I don't listen to long podcasts, but this was absolutely fascinating! I was hooked from beginning to end. Managed reality has now caught my attention. Big Thank you to both of you.

[@randlecarr3257]

Start listening to more long form podcasts. There’s really no way to explore the complexity and nuances of any serious topic in less than one hour

[@sunso1991]

Chris Williamson is great and Randle is 100% correct. treat it like listening to someone fascinating at a party there is so much to think about and discuss in a calm long form interview dont let short form destroy your mind and brain chemistry

[@joyfulone1816]

Don't overlook the "enforced pretending" 😮

[@masonics2927]

We need a podcast with you guys every 6-12 months. The depth of knowledge and insight comprised within Eric is extremely fascinating. Love hearing his unique perspective on current events occurring within society and around the world as a whole.

[@justsayin3600]

For sure! I can tell by your comment, and other comments there are many intelligent people viewing this.

[@masonics2927]

@@justsayin3600 Appreciate. Grateful to be amongst other intelligent individuals such as yourself. 🙏🏼

[@Jackisback31645426]

Best line for me: "Vatican II may have been kind of a big mistake." I love hearing that from someone who was not raised Catholic, as I was. He's right.

[@Really250]

That is hard, it had some good parts but also cause some true damage.

[@petecollings7708]

I am stunned. I was going to go to sleep, just wanted some background noise, now I'm 1/2 awake, sloppy with my words, but I can't stop thinking. I am so lucky I stumbled upon this interview, discussion. I was that kid, why why why? I have to listen again. I want to know how neutrinos get through the earth unscathed, gain a better understanding of power. I forget the exact term, but Eric's "departure" from string theory to "geometric" something. Discussion about Harvard has me thinking, hell, all of it has me thinking. Then when the guitar came out, well, I started lessons when I was 11. Rough times at the moment, I needed a serious jump start of the mind. Gentlemen, Thank You Both.

[@lufran3346]

Thanks

[@MicheleKaiser-io2dx]

Isn't it great when one sentence triggers everything to fall into place like dominoes? Very cool experience!

[@stoneskull]

never give up!

[@AkamiChannel]

Geometric unity. Instead, look into John Baez, Cohl Furey, the octonions, and the Klein quartic.

[@StephenHall-d4b]

15:12 15:25 15:30 16:08

[@Bern1808]

This is such a great conversation. It's great to see Eric so relaxed, so much of what he says is thought-provoking. In many interviews I've seen, it comes across that he is uncomfortable and frustrated. His process, voice, and ideas are so valuable and he articulates them so well, often unpredictably.

[@00TheD]

"it's a spell" that's the most real thing that has been spoken is years. Eric has the big picture reality perspective which allows for human nature to be human and thusly make sense, most others have removed humanity from their equations.

[@monaskulll]

Hahahaha 🤣

[@aldebaranredstar]

Agree!

[@joyfulone1816]

Yes. Spell-ing.

[@judwatkins9478]

This interview is one of the most shocking, most honest conversations I've ever heard. And yet, it explains a lot of mysteries that have bothered me for years. It's like turning on a bright light.

[@joananne7802]

This gentleman is so right on. I'm at a loss when it comes to math, but yet this man thinks like I do and speaks like I do. Pure and applied sciences doesn't mean that you can't think like the social sciences.

[@tbotwest]

I got my STEM PhD from Harvard in 1993. I was pretty cynical about the place by then. I left Boston shortly after and never looked back. That it has reached this point of dysfunction is not a great surprise. You could almost see where it was going even back then. I should also say that it wasn't just me. Virtually all of my peers were of the same opinion.

[@kimphilley621]

I am very glad you watched this. 1993 you and all your peers shared this opinion. I wonder what you all may have done in that intervening 31 years to have kept this woke stupidity from happening.

[@pyhead9916]

Boston is in fact a dysfunctional city!

[@mibli2935]

@CdawgAMVsFilmEditing : Can you please expand on this statement a little bit more? "Education will become a waste of time at a traditional place of education". I can understand that AGI may kill traditional lectures, it might make studying certain subject to be obsolete, but how can it make education in general a waste of time?

[@alanbland1976]

​@@kimphilley621 the people that graduate from a University/Collage have no obligation to maintain that place after they are gone. Even if they wanted to, they have effectively no influence over it.

[@jamess.2491]

MIT alum, definitely disappointed in what's happened but nowhere near to the degree of Harvard.

[@jeremy454]

The reason we have Trump vs. Biden is because we don’t have a media that does its job

[@TheRealCaptainFreedom]

Or is it because the media has been doing their job and doing it very well, but their job is to serve as gatekeepers to keep actual reform from ever happening?

[@stephencorsaro954]

No that's not it. It's because we had a terrible Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v FEC.

[@jeremy454]

@@stephencorsaro954 I agree with you that Citizens United is contributing heavily to corporate interests being a stronger driver of the political process in a negative way, but you are incorrect to call the SCOTUS ruling on that “terrible”. The ruling is constitutionally and legally correct IMO also. A free society has to include the freedom to allocate capital to influence. Making this illegal is not the way forward it sets a dangerous precedent. The court isn’t there to legislate. If congress enacted a law to set overall campaign donations limits to all candidates across the board instead of trying to say who can and can’t donate, SCOTUS could uphold that and take care and of the problem without infringing on constitutional freedoms which are an essential precedent to uphold to maintain the integrity of the republic going forward. On a related note, we as consumers of media need to be more vigilant at vetting our sources of information to prevent big organized interest from living rent free in our heads. Be it big business, government, education or anything else.

[@stephencorsaro954]

@@jeremy454 the constitution wasn't meant to be written in stone. It was meant to evolve. Jefferson, Franklin and both Adams ( Abigail ) spoke to this point. I'll quote some if you want. The point was so that things could change without violent revolution.

[@jeremy454]

@@stephencorsaro954 I am aware of the different legal theories. There was even a difference of opinion even shortly after the founding between constructionists and federalism. These same concepts are still debated by current justices today and you can make foundational arguments for either. What I am saying is that the least we bastardize foundational concepts in the constitution with unnecessary precedent the better and more flexible we will be as a nation moving forward. I think they should just write a better law that a majority of the justices can get behind. The legislative route is better but there isn’t a lot of appetite for such a law in congress now with all of the hands in the cookie jar but don’t blame SCOTUS, congress is messed up and corrupted

[@vidmasterben]

I really enjoy these chats. They encourage me to think bigger. I wish they were regular events.

[@stevenw7438]

Dude’s saying the quiet part out loud…respect!! 👀👀👀👀

[@lisareiter5368]

Not in everything. He says it’s mean to not use trans people’s preferred pronouns. It’s not mean. I refuse to tell lies for others’ feelings. Our society is bending over backwards to protect people’s feelings. Give me a break.

[@colovick]

​@@lisareiter5368he's not being quiet about it, he just disagrees with you on that topic

[@ThereIsNoSpoontang]

@@colovick dude lay of her, we've got to protect her feelings 😅

[@YoMateo.]

If you didn’t come from TikTok raise your hand ✋🏽

[@langermain]

Good one.

[@THEVIRTUALBACKOFFICELULU]

🤚🏽😊

[@GerardoHernandez-mw4mh]

✌🏻

[@jonascederholm5981]

TikTok? What’s that?

[@MarkShinnick]

It really is Amazing what we see has been happening.

[@HighlandBound]

I admire Wienstein so much. I think he may be the most intelligent man I've ever heard. Not pretentious, doesn't use his intelligence as a weapon, and when he tells you that you're wrong or mistaken he does it with tact and grace and kindness. Major Props!

[@angelabrooke5059]

I like him and I also enjoy listening to Iain McGilchrist.

[@existentialhotdog5380]

Agreed. After watching his discussion with Terrance Howard, I was so impressed (& very much appreciated) with his candor. I wish all humans were able to be objective enough to be emotionally removed and focus on solutions, ego removed, in conversation and debate.

[@JeffreyPhillips-w2d]

Exactly. I love people are noticing this. He’s making an international effort I believe to let that show. It only aids in his ability to be heard. We need to hear

[@ManneLjung-f5t]

I see the same. Feel the same as you folks.

[@tammyteej861]

I think Eric’s brother is equally, if not more, intelligent. Watch Dark Horse podcasts

[@Adam-dn1vp]

I don't know if I have ever been more moved, excited and terrified by a conversation in my life.

[@703simpson]

Masterclass in listening. “Say more about that.” “What do you make of that?”

[@ezekielbrockmann114]

I found it tiresome, personally, but it does seem to be what Eric responds to.

[@CindyBalog]

ChrisEgonotDiscerningGoEricHealing4u.

[@beachnap]

I'm personally getting a bit tired of "say more". It's not just Chris, it's a popular turn of phrase these days on the internet. Just feels like podcast speak because nobody would ever say that IRL.

[@SolaAesir]

@@beachnap It's a way to say "I'm not understanding what you're saying" or "You're not quite being clear" without making either person look bad. Yeah, it's not something people will say in normal conversation, but it's a good way for a public discussion to make sure none of the participants look bad.

[@beachnap]

@@SolaAesirYea I get that. It's not bad per se, but pop culture does have speech trends that come and go and this one feels like it's time to go, in my opinion. Another example is when people say, "Lean into".. as in, "Let's lean into the hard things in life". Nobody ever said this until about 5 years ago and I distinctly remember when all of a sudden, every podcaster began saying that. Still to this day, nobody IRL uses that phrase. Still more examples are when people use tech phrases like "receiving downloads/uploads" to describe learning information or spiritual awareness, or "software/hardware" in reference to our minds and bodies, etc. I could go on but you get the point. One day we will look back and see all this as a funny moment in pop culture history.

[@shawndeprey]

When you two get together it's magical. Keep doing it.

[@khalidrashid2092]

I am a long since retired physics and Math teacher and my knowledge is limited. Listening to you is mesmerizing and wakes us up. I never could imagine what you say about Harvard and the like.

[@patricksullivan6176]

I think Eric is an asset to all, he has indirectly displayed the wonderful qualities of a mature human being, so nice to see. Hope to hear more of your well expressed wisdom, this recently retired robot is in a “download” mode!👍🤓

[@interpolagent9]

I thoroughly enjoyed the dialogue between the two of you. The questioning back and forth is refreshing.

[@tritium57]

I crave having this sort of conversation among peers or anyone for that matter. I have skated the fringe and when it happens it’s usually unexpected. Simply enjoyable. Chris is intelligent and an amazing conductor of the information flow and Eric is a chasm you can get completely swallowed by so maybe I’m not capable of their depths, intelligence etc. but I just want to experience in the slightest what I experienced internally while watching this episode. I want to be able to generate that feeling of wonder and connection for myself (in conversation) and others and not need to watch it somewhere. Anyway, Really great to watch. Brilliant commentary and interaction by both men. Thank you.

[@RichardHarlos]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Truly lovely comment. Thank you.

[@anomietoponymie2140]

Me too, me too. I wish I had understood this earlier and dedicated my life to it. It's too late now, not enough years left and so many other time-consuming things to learn like, at the moment, Hebrew. So far, I see no candidates among my children and grandchildren to carry the torch on. My husband was a physicist but he was only very smart which isn't smart enough.

[@Bankerstello]

Easily the best comment on here! Like everyone here - COULD NOT AGREE MORE! well said! Thank you

[@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All]

I was thinking the same (similar as I cannot express myself so eloquently, English is my 3rd language). I live in a small town and it is very difficult for me to have an intellectual conversation with somebody. Most people I know shut me down very quickly and say "you think too much". And that is it. Thanks to KZbin I can at least passively participate in interesting debates 😊

[@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq]

1:22:39: Creating spaces to freely discuss anything, in a sense these are symbolic spaces, indeed very necessary for a healthy society.

[@n8s8]

The extended pauses created by these two are absolutely lovely

[@linkawaken]

My gf pointed that out while listening over my shoulder. I think to some extent, it is Chris mirroring Eric

[@zachminarich577]

As a great interviewer should!​@@linkawaken

[@BarryFranks]

They turned me non-hetero.

[@berjo77]

The two of you have created at least one new fan, I so enjoy listening to your conversations. The two of you have a fantastic chemistry. I’ll be looking for more. Great work.

[@kcvriess]

I love the pause moments ! It shows patience, mutual respect and reflection. These dudes are not bs-ing, they're vibing and getting to places.

[@PtotheMtotheK]

I've seen a lot of people give Elon Musk crap for doing this same thing when going back-n-forth in conversation. Simple people just blurt out crap and don't understand why other people pause and think before speaking.

[@Sweethands4]

It actually just shows that they have gone through media training, and are very careful about what & how they present to the unknown audience.

[@zaccrisp9988]

Never thought about it like that begore, is this common? ​@@Sweethands4

[@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq]

I majored in Psychology. My favorite experiment was the Arch experiment: How someone who stands firm against the rest within a group over time will attract them to his side.

[@DrBrainTickler]

Well, that's only if they are allowed to be heard. In our current social atmosphere, especially here on antisocial media, the rebel geniuses have no voice and aren't allowed to work so they are slowly being murdered by destroying their health through sabotaging their ability to socialize and make money. The experiment you're mentioning does not scale.

[@shanejones578]

And this no longer naturally takes place…

[@TheHandThatWipes3406]

​@@shanejones578 careful with using absolutes

[@shanejones578]

@@TheHandThatWipes3406 oh believe me, I’ve been trying 24 years now you think I’m one of these spineless cowards?

[@leslielearnorth]

Really!!? That explains a LOT BUT Also gives me hope

[@cblondesreport]

I grew up in Germany and Austria. No form or document ever listed "Gender" (Geschlecht), it was always "Sex". Gender was only used for declension of words to express different grammatical categories such a case, number and gender (male female and neutral)

[@zimzob]

Same in English but after people stopped using elaborate euphemisms for coitus and “having sex” became a common expression, making “sex” from a noun to a verb, typical Anglo-Saxon prudery meant “gender” became the euphemism for the noun “sex”, heretofore a word that never required euphemism. Women’s studies came out of literary departments, and adopted the linguistic term “gender” for the idea of socially constructed sex roles, which do comprise additional identities beyond binary sex itself, just as linguistic gender has neuter, and in some languages, more categories. This confusion allowed certain ideas to tunnel into public consciousness.

[@hypergraphic]

I find the word "GeschlechtsVerkehr" entirely too funny when transliterated: Gender Traffic 🤣

[@cblondesreport]

@@hypergraphic ..that is hilarious. Additionally I haven't "heard" that word in like 30 years :-)

[@DailyPolemics]

@@zimzob Hah hah, I posted a video a while ago called "the academic appropriation of gender" inspired by this exact thought. I'm going to assume that I just met one of the 13 people who have watched it, rather than admit that maybe others have had the same thought. 😄

[@aldebaranredstar]

This is absolutely correct-gender is a grammatical term; however, look up a sociologist called John Money. He’s the one who developed the theory of “gender” in the 1950’s as a “social construct,” as behavior, as opposed to sex, which is obviously biology. If you look him up in Wikipedia you’ll find out a lot of very remarkable information, including what happened with twin boys, and how he interfered in their lives to encourage one to be raised as a girl and the other a boy. it did not end well- very sad actually.

[@jpmzo]

It's become increasingly difficult to be 'Proud to be British' when they've practically criminalized that sentiment in the UK.

[@joeytbonejoeytbone]

2:10:00 It's called a Latin Mass! As a Catholic I loved hearing an "atheist" talk about the richness of prayer. Great conversation guys.

[@TheGringoSalado]

Amen! The NO (which I attend regularly), is oriented around entertainment and the laity involvement. TLM is oriented around God, and when we have the proper orientation Mass becomes about us in the most profound way.

[@smeuchel]

​@@TheGringoSaladoone wish I have is to have experienced The Church prior to Vatican II.

[@TheGringoSalado]

@@smeuchel you can. SSPX FSSP Institute of Christ the King, Benedictine Monastery.

[@jelink22]

I agree. Chris doesn't know about Vatican II and the shifting from the Latin mass to the local vernacular, including English.

[@TheGringoSalado]

@@jelink22 and how the mass changed from God oriented to laity oriented, which has had disastrous consequences.

[@effexon]

Chris is good at taking a challenge despite not matching Eric's knowledge.... lot of hosts would simply skip this kind of discussion due to that level difference.

[@nyahhbinghi]

Chris knows a lot more than Eric and is probably the wiser of the two

[@gregorypeterson9]

They both are very knowledgeable but in different areas. It doesn't have to be a competition just suppose to be a conversation.

[@nyahhbinghi]

@@gregorypeterson9 Eric is obtuse and non-committal. Chris can be that way too. Neither brave enough to take a true stand like some brave others do, but at least willing to stick their necks out a little bit. Good on them.

[@RandallNewman]

I sometimes lose where Eric is going because of the way he talks about multiple perspectives at the same time. Chris is more explicit. I appreciate both.

[@aaad3552]

All I see is him giving opanions.

[@DanielMenza-q3x]

Thank you for appearing Eric. You are always a pleasure to listen to. I promise that if our paths ever cross, I will make do with a wave and not treat you like one of the Beatles. Please do not disappear, your voice and sense of reason are direly needed.

[@831Billy]

You’re joking I hope

[@davemartino5997]

@@831Billysays the clown who has no argument whatsoever.

[@831Billy]

@@davemartino5997 I think you’re wrong there mate

[@big_red_machine3547]

I concur- he does know what he’s talking about. He’s in the ADD sweet spot

[@big_red_machine3547]

@@831BillySay your point then or don’t say anything

[@OMGItsJimmyNash]

"How important is belief?" "I don't know." Best answer ever!

[@jamesflowers7142]

What a fantastic podcast….. you forget how much you miss them…. Listening to Eric reminds me of talking to my grandfather a nuclear engineer who spoke 5 languages including Latin who was scientifically religious…… and the interesting pathways his conversations take…. Thank you for sharing these conversations

[@green1880]

You’re probably busy but care to share any interesting stories?

[@captainbube1217]

Please tell me how to have a conversation with a religious person about their beliefs they always just blabber nonsense.

[@jamesflowers7142]

@@captainbube1217 well it depends on who you talk to….. we’ll educated articulate AND religious people aren’t interested in talking with someone who’s openly hostile…. Think of it this way, Neil DeGrasse Tyson has said he won’t debate flat earthers…. Why because there is no convincing then…. It’s the same way with you, how can I tell? Because you said you’ve never had that conversation…. The zealots who think that it’s their job to convert everyone will spend the time talking to you but the other type of people don’t have time or patience to waste on you…. But have a an interesting conversation with someone and it brushes against belief it’s dependent ON YOU and how you talk about it…. Is it, oh yah big spaghetti monster judging blah blah blah…. And they’ll shut down and move on…. OR do you say something like I’ve never understood how some people can be religious and scientific? Am I missing a part of the human condition that has FAITH? Oh youre religious? How do you navigate those two seemingly (at least to me) contradictory views….. wow I don’t think I can’t view it that way but it’s fantastic that you can….. you saw it with Eric, he’s an atheist who prays…. He recognizes the importance of religion to the human condition…. He recognizes the beauty of the cathedrals and art sponsored by the church…. Sure know where they failed as organization but MAYBE don’t throw those points in religious peoples faces if you want to have an interesting conversation…. Cause they can throw the complete failure of the socialists ideology in yours…..

[@jamesflowers7142]

@@green1880 it’s hard but here’s something that Eric said that reminded me of a conversation around me when I was 11 in ‘91…. Just like Eric it was on a train except we were going from Lithuania to St Petersburg. And my grandfather spoke about how at fermi lab they’ll were using the particle collider to find out the deeper secrets of the universe…. And you have to understand that religion was considered to be the opiate of the masses in the USSR but there were people who still wanted to believe and Slavs AND Russians aren’t afraid to debate…. So they would say “but the Bible says god created the earth in a day” and my grandfather would say what is a day to something that is everlasting, that was always there before and will be after the last star burns out….. always with a kind voice and an understanding to skeptics but with the firm belief that wonderful balance that is our universe shows that something found beauty in making something that no matter how deep we dig there are reasons for why things work. Now this is happening in a crowded train car with people crowding the door to listen and participate and someone playing a guitar quietly in the next car some religious songs with people quietly singing (think like a round a campfire to songs you have the words on sheet in front of you but you really don’t know that well)…. I really miss my grandfather His name was Willie but I called him Pappa…… I (luckily) inherited some of his smarts but I lacked the discipline for higher education but I’m a veracious reader and I LUV PODCASTS!!! And I miss that I can’t debate string theory with him and get his opinions on dark matter and energy AND NOW DARK CHEMISTRY!!!!! His options on how dimensions work and wether or not things like Iowasca or DMT or mushrooms can bring you closer to god or something else? Or does your own mind choose which to allow in, the good or the bad? He might have antiquated ideas about such things but I know for a fact he’s be interested in the data coming out of those experiments! Well this might be not what you were hoping to hear but was nice to share a memory about my grandfather with someone and hopefully you found it mildly interesting….

[@captainbube1217]

@@jamesflowers7142 i am not openly hostile in any way, but religious people see it as hostile if you ask them simple questions about their beliefs. Questions like: „why would god by needed to explain any part of the universe or human condition?“ „How would you explain god to me?“ They will quote 5000 year old books as if its the undeniable truth, but no religious person can just answer the simplest questions about their faith or why i should consider them sane when they believe stuff that is not grounded in any phenomenon besides the human condition. If a rock falls down a cliff, how does god come into play there? What is the difference between a rock falling of a cliff and human evolving from a single celled organism based on the exact same physical phenomenon. I dont know what you are on about with the socialist stuff when all of my family members alive at the time of national socialism where in line with the party standards through memetic warfare of the SS AND in line with the religious memes they were TAUGHT by their elders. To my knowledge there is no human being that conceived the existence of god or the nonexistence of it through pure logically explainable deduction, it always comes down to whether they where biased by the opinions of some demagogue. I dont deny that religious institutions over the history of humanity build good things and fabulous cathedrals, my entires homecountrys heritage and any great building in my homecountry is informed by religious motive, None of that makes it any more logical or explains to me why these people believe in things they have no reason to believe. Ive talked with many intelligent religious people about their faith but they all cannot give me a single reason or even an explanation why they believe in anything besides their opinions of the world. But it still is their opinion and nothing else, but to claim that their opinion is divine truth is just straight insane. I am fully willing to be convinced of the existence of god or the logic of religion beyond as a bandaid of the human condition, but as you showed in your comment noone can even start to explain the usecase of religion beyond basic group dynamic and the human condition. Its all just gobbledygook that goes nowhere in the end.

[@hoonami139]

Incredible conversation, I could listen to you guys chat for 3 more hours, thank you Chris and Eric

[@AntiNeoFascist]

Yeah, Eric claiming nobody wants to listen to this must necessarily be relying on specific meanings of either the word 'listen' or 'wants'.

[@clintbillton2161]

Everytime i hear a ad its like a knife stubbing my brain!

[@Borrelaas]

I love listening to Eric

[@Anastasia91000]

From a 77 yr old Canadian woman with grade 12 and a few Technical Inst. courses, I enjoyed this up to the 2:15 hr mark. Will finish tomorrow.❤

[@nashole23]

have you had a chance to finish listening yet? I absolutely loved the last half.

[@Anastasia91000]

@@nashole23 Not yet. I saved it. It's Sunday in Lent for me. Will give it a go for sure. I don't watch tv news at all. Mostly KZbin or Rumble.

[@gloriarodgerson1537]

Eric, I can understand clearer how you are viewing the world as it is at the moment. I believe there has to be a change, or the simulation we live in is doomed. I play in a band and write music to stay focused. I can't focus on what could happen. I try to focus on creating and celebrating what I have now. If I concentrated on what's going on in the world, I wouldn't be living this life. I enjoyed listening, but I see how lost you are, too. Change will come. I believe that. PE. Canada.

[@Nico-hy6fb]

the only thing that keeps us from doing the right thing is our need for comfort

[@hypno5690]

Far from it.

[@jbc242424]

I mean... well... there's also Intelligence, know-how, awareness, alacrity, habit formation, blind spots, exhaustion, fatigue, fear (which is why we seek comfort), illness, **dishonesty**. There's a lot to it and it ain't easy.

[@TJ-kk5zf]

power

[@TJ-kk5zf]

@@Flexible_photon live for others rather than yourself

[@denisevarner7308]

Comfort is a response to immediate fear versus nurturing compassionate courage.

[@garythegoat2112]

"Get the crazy people who do not understand human development away from our children" This may be the most poignant moment of this discussion. I aspire to understand what Eric is speaking about and I am as confounded as he is as to why everyone seems to be focused on the wrong things in life.

[@pugsymalone6539]

Because the majority of people have their every waking moment squandered or monopolized by work and various government requirements. People are consumed by the urgency of now.

[@blackjackjester]

I followed almost everything he said... Except when it came to sex and gender. Gender can be separated from sex, but then it also loses its grounding in principle. If gender is expression, then it is equally sensitive to cultural norms - eg Scottish skirts. But it isn't a skirt, it's a kilt. If it is just culturally presenting on the gendered style spectrum, then it is little more than personality and style, which is individual, not measurable in a meaningful way. And when it comes to sex, it's more about how the exception proves the rule. Sex is binary because we can discretely identify the exceptions. A car doesn't stop being a car just because 2 wheels fell off. But I also completely disagree with the mind/body incongruence argument. You can't be born in the wrong body because nobody chooses that, and the two develop inexorably from each other. If you are uncomfortable with being a man, the best you can do is present as a woman... That's something else... It's a fantasy. We all tell ourselves false stories to get through the day... But going so far as to not just picking a unique style to your own, but choosing the stereotype of the other is... Well... Something is not right.

[@charlesreaddy6585]

As he then unscientifically promotes the idea of multiple genders and multiple sexes , through genetic mutation ( exceedingly rare I might add ) and compare us to non primate species that can have a variety of ways of reproducing ! Certain amphibians can regrow whole body parts ,

[@paulwally9007]

Having met people who work for NYU, none of this comes as a surprise. When my friends explained what controversial things happened in the uni, I couldn't entirely bring myself to believe them. But now it's all too apparent they were being utterly sincere and not exaggerating.

[@dacrab1]

Amazing interview 🤙 Inspirational moments and key takeaways for the vision of the future… Craig Collin’s 3 Things for impactful development: The physical…Not just the place you build The programming…how you curate the uses The connectivity…not just the place but the people and organizations Harness the big desire for people that want to be here, to stay here…our youth…not just 65 and older, health and wellness focused, our diversity of knowledge, art, and food exploding Resilience of the Central Florida as a strategical location as we consider environmental impacts Collaboration…What you do not your title. The youngest person may have the most important thing to say…because their ideas are not their anchors And last but not least… Recognize impact…no-one wants to get up and half ass it 🤙

[@ideologybot4592]

Both the beginning and the end of this interview had an emphasis on exclusion and greatness, and it's sorely needed.

[@Copa20777]

Am from Africa, am so zoned in on this man Mr Eric Weinsten, yep he would restore Harvard for the scholars

[@thrakattacks]

I wish there was a double like button. I love your interviews with Eric.

[@kyliepechler]

I was going to make the same comment. I Really enjoyed this one.

[@siriusBhive]

"A world surfused in delusion" "Why are you afraid to submit to something bigger than yourself" Thank you eternally for this insightful debate. Outstanding

[@DrBrianKeating]

Describing the despicable support of antisemitic events, anti-intellectual, anti-scholastic behavior of Claudine Gay as mere “fallout” is quite the opening hot take! Harvard is supposed to be the gold standard. Now it’s a laughing stock. Talk about destroying brand equity by the billions.

[@kadourimdou43]

Sadly it’s the logical trend for a hateful ideology.

[@DrBrianKeating]

And Harvard is Ground Zero for intellectual persecution, suppression of academic freedom and punishment of heterodox ideology no matter how rational.

[@moldyzucchinis3251]

also the multiple fraudulent data scandals as this is all happening, including a leading professor & researcher being exposed as a sham

[@andrewofaiur]

Can't help but think there are insidious forces at work proactively seeking to undermine the legitimacy of our most trusted institutions

[@meltingintoair7581]

The scientific, empirical materialist metaparadigm is responsible for the corruption of academia. It’s a radical worldview that abandoned an authentic exploration of reality ages ago. Only a rational idealist intellectual revolution can offer the way forward. Godel’s incompleteness theorems should have been the point at which we made the shift to rational idealism because they logically proved rational idealism. But even to this day, the meaningful interpretation of Godel’s work totally mistakes what the theorems say and this mistake is exactly in the direction of the opposite of what they say. The theorems are presented as evidence of empirical materialism. It’s maximum irony.

[@laughingliberaldad]

"Explain it to me like I'm a golden retreiver." Chris is kinda like a Golden. In the best of ways. Love you both!

[@meganmarie2173]

This guy is so arrogant, he talks in riddles and circles also....

[@laughingliberaldad]

Maybe you're just not bright enough to understand@@meganmarie2173 🤷🏻‍♂

[@spottsmdable]

I feel that Eric interviewed Chris exceptionally well throughout Chris’ podcast.

[@DuckyQSimmons]

Haha! You said it!

[@petemarkey626]

The more you interrogate Eric the more he closes down, by demonstrating a willingness to embrace an invitation to answer a question the More Eric opens up. the trade off was probably 15 to 85 In part because answers were used to further better illustrate the scope of his own questions.

[@majorbarbara1]

I feel so moved that he validated my experience of society’s toxic compassion and managed reality. I appreciated how he could exist in the ambiguous truth regarding the gender issue and wavering faith. In having to take these polarized stances politically, we have stopped thinking and asking questions as well as trusting our perceptions. I really cried at points because I felt sad for where we are and how I’ve stopped thinking for myself. It just showed me how important it is to be educated and not indoctrinated, to continue to ask challenging, unpopular questions. His discussion of the negative effects of being famous made a great deal of sense. What a burden. I’m glad he spoke about music and language and the generational threads of cultural wisdom and identity. I love how he encouraged the interviewer to take pride in his heritage. Recently, a white male said to a black female who constantly gets mad at him saying how she envies his white privilege, “I want you to have all you want, but I don’t feel you want me to have what I have or want.” She said, “I’ll have to think about that.” It made me think about this war on men that has been taking place, particularly white men. Just more to contemplate…..We should all be studying childhood development.

[@BarinKayaoglu]

I finally got to the end of the interview and didn't regret it. Eric is probably the most underappreciated, humane genius of our times. Much love and respect from Türkiye. ❤ And Chris, keep up the great work, brother.

[@DrBrainTickler]

That's probably true but you should also acknowledge that the smartest people of every era have always been oppressed, sabotage, economically terrorized and ostracized to the fringes of society, usually dying alone in their early to mid-40s... The smartest people alive currently, you don't even know who they are.

[@DanielFBest]

Yes, I agree. He's brilliant and original, and yet so full of humility.

[@treeglass]

I agree with you sir.

[@ZakBellinger]

This is probably the 4th or 5th podcast I've watched with Eric, and for some reason in all the others I felt I didn't fully understand what he was saying. The first 20 minutes of this episode really helped me understand his cryptic, metaphorical way of speaking about certain subjects. I totally get it now. I watch Brett and Heather stuff all the time, and have for years, but THANK YOU CHRIS for allowing this man's intellect to find it's verbal footing. Well fucking done sir.

[@heidi22209]

Absolutely

[@Schachtens]

It helps to hear it a few times to get into Eric's way of thinking. Every time I get some more out of each sentence.

[@fenrifegads5571]

It's called pilpul and it's not a good thing.

[@Schachtens]

@@fenrifegads5571 not at all. Did you try to listen several times to him in a podcast?

[@fenrifegads5571]

@@Schachtens Why on earth would I want to listen to a J? Your rabbi would be ashamed of such weak pilpul, moshe. You can't just say "not at all" and have that be it. Do better.

[@TheWinterfox10]

I really appreciate Eric being able to explain the distinction between a university's exercise of power/control and its academic horsepower. It's a distinction that a lot of people would not know/understand how to communicate why the statement "trust the science" is so unbelievably naive.

[@etiennedegaulle3817]

Good point. People really misunderstand the "objectivity" of science and the scientific method. The scientific method is a method for evaluating the veracity of hypothesis. "Science" is intertwined with mechanisms of power, control, and economics. We don't have bad health care because of the scientific method. We have bad healthcare because science is controlled by money and power.

[@pn5721]

👍 Eric's well- worded distinction in this regard is the most important point made in this talk so far.

[@lenoraturner8853]

I enjoyed the discussion for many reasons and appreciated his honest atheism. Interesting how he, likely unknowingly nearly quoted Jeremiah 29:11 about hope and a future.

[@markbrown1609]

as a recent Harvard grad, I nominate Eric as the the prez

[@slowjamcdub]

😂😂😂😂 sure you are😂😂😂

[@Rocket9944]

How was your experience at Harvard?

[@markbrown1609]

college is college, beer bongs, girls, girls, books, and more girls.@@Rocket9944

[@kevinc.8885]

"Faith is a gift that i have yet to be given" that hits really hard. I was there brother, keep searching and you will find it.

[@markoboychuk]

Seek and ye shall find

[@saphricpcgaming5182]

Not really. If you care about evidence you will never find faith.

[@ThisIsMattsLife]

​@@saphricpcgaming5182Faith is accepting humility in the absence of evidence. If the ego refuses to allow such cinviction then no faith will be found.

[@AtrusOranis]

@@saphricpcgaming5182 In order to believe evidence, you need to have faith in some sort of axiom that allows there to be evidence.

[@boringstuff1542]

Once he gets mental illnesses as he ages or his finances diminish so he will need to grift more to the religious right he will "find it" - that's for sure!

[@AnonymousSquirrel123]

*As a Yalie, allow me to interject: Yale Alumni Contributions have been driven down year after year since the late 1980's, primarily due to the Alums being **_embarrassed_** at being associated with our Academy. I was a STEM student at Yale (for my professional degree - I made no attempt to finish a terminal degree), in the 1978-1981 period. At that time, Yale was, to paraphrase Weinstien, both a terrible place, and a slice of heaven, both at the same time.* *When I was there, the "invisible side of Yale" was the exclusive domain of the so-called "Secret Societies" - places like Skull and Bones. The academic side of the institution was just beginning it's flirtation with with today's Leftist ideologies, but they were still very much a fringe minority and they were mocked mercilessly. Today, the roles are reversed: the STEM academy is completely subsumed (in reality, not on paper), by the Humanities department. So, the people with no interest nor ability in STEM are running it [into the ground], while the people who have these scientific gifts are second or third class academic citizens who have to go along with this if they want to graduate with anything more than a quarter million dollars in debt. I have several friends who refused to pay for Medical or Legal training for their children, as they no longer believe there Is any such training available. Concurrently, all but one of the people in my class have moved into a non-clinical position, or else, gone into a niche corner to practice - so-called "Boutique Practices", where people like Dr. Gay can have no direct nor indirect effect on their lives.* *We have such a serious shortage of physicians in this country that Medicine as a field has been atomized and credentialized, to allow non medical people to cover some small area of medicine for them. For instance, Respiratory therapists are the ones most likely to place an airway outside of the OR, and they have full prescribing rights as well, provided they stay within their credentialed scope of practice. There are dozens of variations on this theme, from Surgical "technicians" to "Physician Assistants", to "Nurse Practitioners". We as a society have effectively killed the **_practice_** of Medicine, by replacing the _"Art" of Medicine with "Evidence Based Medicine (essentially a a methodology of turning practice into a flow chart), while relegating the actual science of Medicine to the PhD researchers, in toto. The result is severely undertrained, underinformed, questionably competent MD/DO (they recently became legally identical) graduates. This makes the shortage worse, and the circle goes round and round.* *Yale has been a laughingstock for a very long time now. Harvard, despite Dr. Weinstein's belief, has also been a laughingstock for a long time - just not as long as Yale. If you go into a university library system that carries "The Crimson" [Harvard Alum Magazine], you can see the changes starting to take place, gaining momentum, and finally reaching the point of adverse Absurdity in the 2010's.*

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

Did you call people who pointed out the dangers with giving ground to the Humanists, conspiracy theorists? I mean at any point before the 2010s.

[@AnonymousSquirrel123]

@@Ewil.Bluetooth Yes actually. As any of my friends, victims, or wives will attest, I have been railing bout this since at least 1980, when "DRG's" became a substitute for professional judgement. I was careful to keep my concerns at a low volume until I could graduate, but the worry was already there and in loud stereophonic sound. The group cries didn't become loud enough to be universally heard and discussed until the 2003-ish destruction of medicine was made official through the fully implemented credential system. This forced everyone to have a "specialty" if they wanted to use their license to practice, and that credential requires (a) renewal by examination every 10 years, and (b) that every practitioner (not just MD/DO practitioners) follow the ridiculous "Evidence Based Medicine" structure. EBM is a blight on medicine, society as a whole, and on every individual it has maimed or killed - while proving cover for an EBM Based killing through practice norms set by EBM. People forget quickly how fast things move: in the 70s and 80s, extreme trauma patients were supposed to be fitted with pressure suits ("MAST trousers" - you'll have to look it up to believe it) - when they were bleeding fast, or were more than a few minutes from the nearest trauma rated emergency room. Those MAST pants killed a LOT of people, and it did it in several different ways - ALL of which were fully obvious before their use became the standard of care. MAST pants are museum pieces now, but there are many things just like them in medicine now, and these have more protections, and will be used far longer than they would have been when "professional judgement" was the standard of care. In our attempt to "fix the horrors of medical training, and ostensibly in the name of Patient Safety, we deliberately cut medical training (post graduate training, aka Residency) by more than 2/3rds. And the result, which was obvious from the moment it was conceiver, is now ours to try and avoid. Good luck with that, as practitioners trained the old fashioned way are dying off, retiring, or getting new careers that have less stress, abuse, and regimentation - with similar or superior rewards.*

[@heribertorivera6519]

Wooow!!! 😮 It's sad what's happening and disappointingly true.

[@jeffswingdancer8302]

The absurdity is now on steroids. A Canadian university announced it was going to "decolonize" engineering and start the process with a two-row wampum treaty with Indian tribes. Comedy ensued as tribes in New York state were referenced. I guess they don't have a competent history department. A peer-reviewed journal described efforts to develop "feminine glaciology. I tell people about these bizarre developments, and they believe it's the work of isolated wackos. The bad news that this is the current state of universities in the English-speaking West hasn't sunk in yet.

[@mariedelozier2530]

An accurate observation and history…

[@susanpetropoulos1039]

First time any long discussion has held my interest to the end and I actually want to hear more.