I just replaced studs on a 02 ford explorer, the studs I bought came with the heads shaved on one side. Just as you did. The ones I removed from the factory was the same way, So, I guess your right up there with Ford. Thanks for the video
@philr94078 жыл бұрын
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@amadotacu37077 жыл бұрын
David Lawhon lol.....Ford certified ehhh
@r0wdyn3ss7 жыл бұрын
Maybe Ill get lucky then.
@RedSnakeGT5004 жыл бұрын
"I guess your right up there with Ford" That is a low bar, my friend.
@cjwherley4 жыл бұрын
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@chingonr10 жыл бұрын
Done this plenty of times, never had a problem...those of you that are complaining he mentioned many times this is ONE way of doing it without having to remove the wheel hub and replacing the wheel bearing, not everybody has the luxury and replacing every at once for a simple stud, this method is not dangerous.
@MrFredboy9 жыл бұрын
Recr Actually, that isn't true. This probably won't be, but CAN be dangerous. The shoulder on those studs is all that keeps them from pulling through the hub. On 2 studs, it isn't a huge no no, but if you're doing all 5, find another way, because that's when it becomes dangerous.
@mja90016 жыл бұрын
Never had a problem YET.. removing 25% of the retention part of the nut that holds the wheel on is dangerous..
@CharlesCarabott5 жыл бұрын
@@mja9001 I would think that the force is sideways not outwards so I wouldn't think it's that dangerious
@ThisDoesNotCompute11 жыл бұрын
Yes, this method works. But honestly, if I was paying a shop to replace a stud on my car and they did this without asking first, I'd find it very unprofessional.
@TheRick213011 жыл бұрын
with that kind of hub bearing there's 90% chance you wont be able to remove without damaging the bearing.. as soon as you pull the flange and the bearing race came off that's another $$$ specially on honda,toyota that a freaking big $$$
@ThisDoesNotCompute11 жыл бұрын
Oh I agree, just saying that if anyone is getting paid to do this kind of work, they should be upfront with the customer about exactly what they plan to do. It's like going to the dentist to get a cavity filled and they decide to just pull the whole tooth because it's faster/easier/cheaper. In this case, eliminating the risk of damaging the bearing comes at the cost of a cut-up splash shield and a weakened wheel stud (since part of the head gets ground off).
@user-nl9ne5gk6k6 жыл бұрын
the bearings aren't all that expensive when you get parts through a real parts supplier, and not from a schlep boiz or autobone! lol
@sunsweetsuitable5936 жыл бұрын
this is why you never go in the work bay area
@mopar0IIII0jeep6 жыл бұрын
At $100+ an hour for shop time the alternative will cost the customer a couple hundred extra bucks for no real benefit. The more of a pain in the ass a job is the more it costs the customer.
@dg-xr3gc5 жыл бұрын
"We don't want to mess up the threads that's why we're here" continues to hammer the shit out of the stud as it's going in at an angle.
@MicroSoftner4 жыл бұрын
lol
@UltimateSteevil3 жыл бұрын
as a stud myself? i can confirm that chicks love it when you hammer at an angle. :P
@subele_music3 жыл бұрын
its ok they only got booger’d up a little
@DesignatedName3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing 😂😂😂😂😂
@barrymckinley22927 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your tips here, I was able to do this myself and save myself about $300(The tire shops I called all said about $150 per stud!!! That's insane!!! It literally takes longer to take the brakes apart than it does to remove and install a new stud. Thanks again!!
@Inline3speedy2 жыл бұрын
it's so fucking funny because these mechanics are usually the one who over torque studs and we end up going back to them again for fucking 300$? No thanks, I'll rather do it myself and learn something new.
@silveravnt2 жыл бұрын
The dealer quoted me $615.05 because they said the bearing had to be replaced on a 2000 honda odyssey and it's pressed in so the whole knuckle has to come off.
@sixtyfiveford11 жыл бұрын
I have done this and it is a good reasonable method. Even with the missing portion on the back of the stud there is no way you would be able to draw it through the hub before the threads gave out.
@EpicHeroSandwich11 жыл бұрын
or before the hub gave out for that matter.
@bmxpeter810 жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh those who complaint about this method clearly never worked on old used car someone wanted fixed on a budget (which is the type of job 90% of independent garages live off). Its not the type of procedure you do on a brand new Audi, Eric knows it... its something you do on a 1998 Sunfire that someone use as a winter beater. and I'm ready to bet that those stud wont ever go anywhere.
@ariso8 жыл бұрын
The customer paid for 2 new studs, one of which was broken, and the other one had damage threads. They were then replaced with 2 studs with damaged threads. Plus, he spent time polishing threads and grinding down the studs. He should have just removed the hub.
@eurobeatmachinist7327 жыл бұрын
Aris Oglesby Grinding took about 10s, If you can remove a hub and replace the bearing in that time just go ahead and do it.
@headphonesnotincluded17007 жыл бұрын
But still. At least do it the right fucking way. It takes less time and less effort to do it the right way, than it does this way.
@amadotacu37077 жыл бұрын
Pierre Gauthier preach
@georgeghneim7 жыл бұрын
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@Bones12x211 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky I guess, I just replaced a stud on my car and I had enough to get the full length stud back in with no problem. But my grumpy old neighbor did call the cops on me cause of the noose from hammering it in. It was only one stud and the hammering lasted for no more than 5 minutes. Stupid old man.
@ramanpreciado22414 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm on day two of hammering my rusted in stud. My neighbor did came by though today.....he offered to help me with any tools he had. Great man 😅 sorry to hear yours is messed up.
@roberteberhart11393 жыл бұрын
Yup! And I'll call um again on ya too. Young whippersnapper
@owenfranklin8143 жыл бұрын
Lol the guy next door always helps with tools or to borrow his jack, sorry bro
@rswindello3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been hammering the new one in for 30 minutes. Feeling bad for my neighbors
@DefendTheStar3 жыл бұрын
You'd think an older gentleman would appreciate someone working on their own car.
@henrietn11 жыл бұрын
Like eric said, this is the easy way. A lot of people freaking out here. Some people actually look at the cost of repairs, and this way is much less time consuming and cost effective, if the customer so demands it. If he wants the replacement done the normal way, it will be more expensive. Besides, Eric is just putting up a video that youtubers asked for...
@provostkhot11 жыл бұрын
Freaking out? Man, someone who talks about work ethics shows a video in which he deliberately breaks one thing to fix another? Really? It's not about weather it works or not, it's about sloppy bodged work. We're waiting for a reapir video made entirely on "zipties", I mean who cares about actually doint it the right way.
@ericthecarguy11 жыл бұрын
provostkhot This is not 'sloppy' or 'botched', the method works and in the right application I have no problem doing it and have never had a problem with this in the many years that I've done it. I think you should focus more on the idiot that cross threaded the lug in the first place rather than demonizing me for fixing it.
@henrietn11 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy hit the nail on the head right there!
@rubenvarela40776 жыл бұрын
Hendrik Derudder yupppppp
@kaineshorts1783 Жыл бұрын
@@ericthecarguyhow’s it going eric i have to replace some studs on my car do i need to replace all of them?
@toconnx11 жыл бұрын
When I insert my new wheel stud, I like to throw the stud in the freezer and hit the hub with a heat gun for a few minutes. Those small bits of thermal expansion / contraction make all the difference
@davesippel9142 жыл бұрын
I’m grateful for this video today. I changed out a broken lug on my son’s 2008 Honda Fit. I used this method and it worked perfectly. Another guy online removed the entire knuckle and needed a hydraulic press to finish the job. I was done in about 15 minutes. Thanks!
@kenlemmond673 Жыл бұрын
Just used your tip to replace the two front wheel studs on a 2006 CRV. The hardest part for me was trying to hammer the new stud thru the hub. Gotta check out one of those air hammers from Harbor Freight! Thanks again for the help. You're one of my most trusted resources on KZbin! Keep up the good work!
@estrelladelnorte130811 жыл бұрын
well... i think thats is better and stronger than driving with NO stud at all , think is great that eric is honest and he is there trying to save money for his customers , other mechanics would have recomend changing the hub, brake pads , brake caliper,bearing,axle, transmission and maybe the engine for a broken stud!!! ( if you know what i mean with this) What eric just did made the car safer that what it was before.Gracias eric
@laynejohnson42893 жыл бұрын
I’m sure most people know this but use washers to take up the space in the stud 3 washers or more if you want put the lug nut tighten it by hand or impact it’s up to you the lug nut will bottom out on the washers and then draw the stud in once it’s all the way in the lug nut will stop spinning zap it off take the washers and do the same process until finished out the rims back on tighten torque and good to go if you don’t have washers you can use a nut to act as washer but I suggest washers since they are flat
@eastoahu11 жыл бұрын
Wow @ all the people bashing Eric for this... I really think its these kinds of videos that you learn things from. Factory service manuals don't show you these kinds of things. Thanks Eric!!!
@joshuacarrasco60124 жыл бұрын
I agree
@mrbreezeet14 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacarrasco6012 yeah, it is just fine grinding the flat into the back of the stud. I've done it too. I have even seen factory studs with the flat already machined away.
@patrickl7212 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This method worked well on my 2012 Accord.
@domari945910 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Eric. I'm an IT guy who does my own car stuff in the backyard and garage, and everywhere I can access without aggravating others. ;) Your methods are spot on. They are great for guys(and girls) who work on their own cars, and for pro's as well. A whole world of making my own tools has opened up to me by watching your videos. Keep up the good work mate(I'm from down under) :D
@stevehillier70187 жыл бұрын
The man has been completely open and honest so I don’t see any problem. Keep up the good work Eric
@CptMishMashVonRandom11 жыл бұрын
You were going good until you beat it in there. It is possible while not damaging the stud at all. I do it by completely cutting out the piece as you did, then with a grinding stone I grind the surface of the knuckle back a tiny bit where the loose stud bumps it. You don't need much off, you just soften the sharp edge and the stud will fit straight in there. :)
@th3b0yg5 жыл бұрын
Nice tip! Thanks!
@richardsquires65349 жыл бұрын
Replacement lug studs usually come with a "D" shaped base for easy installation. And Eric, if you air chizzel that flap that you cut, you can probably drive that stud home without thread damage. Isuzu used to pay 6 hours io replace the studs on all 4 corners. Those were happy days! ; )
@WorkableWax2 жыл бұрын
Box truck or light suv?
@DJzSith11 жыл бұрын
This works 100% and is much quicker, easier and minimizes risk of damaging something. That being said, I would inform the customer about the costs of taking of the knuckle and doing it properly and hope he would accept, before pulling off this sort of improvisation on his car.
@edwinreeves65062 жыл бұрын
My only concern is ,would it still pass a state safety inspection. My state ( Missouri) still requires inspections.
@NigOleBigger7 жыл бұрын
"You don't want to booger up the threads" proceeds to bang it through the hub
@bossmaine6015 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@elmecanico49435 жыл бұрын
I would put grease on the threads and hole where stud goes in.. To minimize damage..
@specialed6184 жыл бұрын
At least he owned up to it lol
@juliansaiz57144 жыл бұрын
Lmfao yo
@crawfordoverton778611 жыл бұрын
I found using a few flat washers and your lug nut tighten the nut against the flat washer pulling in stud flush. I have used this with a great deal of success never a failure.
@winstonbuzon11 жыл бұрын
A few? How about one big but strong one? This method sounds good, but would that mean you'd need a longer stud?
@dohnjoe93246 жыл бұрын
Good idea ill try that i have big washers that will work perfect! I aint buying no power hammer tool ;)
@FragItAll6 жыл бұрын
I've done it this way (with washers), works for me.
@fractal42845 жыл бұрын
All the people complaining this is obviously a work around it's clearly obvious that the client/customer probably couldn't afford the extra labor for the bigger job if this method solves it it doesn't hurt anything
@davelowell30088 жыл бұрын
For that type of vehicle, if it's yours. That's the best way to go. I'm sure owners of similar vehicles appreciate this vid.
@fragmare7 жыл бұрын
People talking smack about this procedure must not realize they sell pre-notched studs, like the one Eric made, for exactly this application. Also, a jamb nut or axel nut makes an excellent washer to put between a lugnut and the hub flange for pulling the stud through... never had one spin in the hub.
@random123454577 жыл бұрын
oh my goodness that air hammer is amazing
@Jademyheart3 жыл бұрын
Yep,💯👍 that's MaC for ya😉
@jasonardenyi10363 жыл бұрын
Yes, verry nice
@dougpenn8142 жыл бұрын
Đirt diger hamberger job not even if it was free sorry
@twx89511 жыл бұрын
A suggestion that I have, coming from a manufacturing background, with having cut threads a lot, and fixing messed up ones, when ever I had to fix old threads, I would just take a thread die to them and recut the same size thread, that always worked for me, so I do the same with my automotive work and never have any issues after I do that
@Quake3DeathGod5 жыл бұрын
I totally appreciate this video! It is a massive money saver on a Honda fit! What would have taken me $400 at a shop or two days in 17 degree weather, took me about 30 minutes. Thanks again for the video, keep up the good work.
@josephmckinney48162 жыл бұрын
About to do this with my 2012 Honda Fit. I'm so glad to see your comment on this.
@Hachiro Жыл бұрын
@@josephmckinney4816 2008 for me! Doubt I cross threaded the last one, more likely that I over tightened it. Too bad it didn't happen to one of the rear studs, cause the whole hub is super easy to replace.
@MrSnowmobilefreak9 жыл бұрын
Eric, thank you for leaving your videos relatively unedited, its those things that make me chuckle that make your videos just that much better!
@TrojanHorse195911 жыл бұрын
Eric, When "pulling" a stud back in, try using a larger nut or stack of flat washers for your old nut to pull against instead of directly against the hub. It helps keep the stud from wanting to twist. Also lubricate the threads and the washers or larger nut contact areas to reduce the friction. It works for me when I cannot get an air hammer to the back of the new studs to drive them in.
@johnlagreca62882 жыл бұрын
The air chisel works too.
@ShelleyYbarra2 жыл бұрын
What do I do when the washer become stuck on the stud?
@armchairtin-kicker503 Жыл бұрын
There is a tool for installing studs: Lisle 22800 Wheel Stud Installer.
@benhyzy3662 Жыл бұрын
@@ShelleyYbarramust have been too small of a washer. You’ll have to break it off, try heat.
@benhyzy3662 Жыл бұрын
I used the closed end of a 1/2 combination wrench (didn’t have enough washers laying around the garage)
@donnybruno35945 ай бұрын
Holy moly! Thanx Eric@ You saved me so much time and money. I heated the hole and froze the bolt. IT WORKED!!THANK THE CAR GOD ERIC!
@davidbrennan57 жыл бұрын
This is what I call a rough and ready repair. It is not pretty but it works and the car is fixed quickly.
@Hole_Motorsports4 жыл бұрын
This is what I call a lazy hack job
@gitmoray110 жыл бұрын
I am sorry that so many people watch a free video that thinks outside the box, and all they can do is bitch and complain. I really like the fact that you do very detailed videos, with decent takes and closeups, and that you explain all the pros and cons as you did on this one. My only suggestion would be to throw the studs in the freezer after grinding them down. If you freeze them before insertion, they will go in a lot easier. You have saved my butt on several occasions already. Please keep doing these videos!
@mrbreezeet14 жыл бұрын
Yeah freezing the stud that's a good idea. As I mentioned before I think Eric said some may not agree with grinding that flat onto the back of the stud I've even seen studs in a car that were like that I don't know if it was factory or or they made it aftermarket like that for that reason but that studs not going anywhere with a little bit of that flat ground off what the heck?
@D_mooser4 жыл бұрын
That's great! I wouldn't do this on my nice car, but I just snapped a stud on my winter beater, time to bust out the grinder. Thanks bro
@johnpaulgarcia69065 жыл бұрын
I don't like how it's done but it works plus it saves money and it really doesn't harm the vehicle's steering. Great job sir
@MichaelMantion11 жыл бұрын
I changed 2 lugs on my sequoia, I didn't have to cut anything to get access. That said when I put the lug in I froze it in my chest freezer for a week. I am sure a day would do the same thing. I cleaned up the hub a bit and the lug slid in with some washers and a lug nut. took almost no effort. I will say that I tried it another time w/o freezing it, I got it but it was much, much harder. I am often amazed how much steal shrinks at -20f, which is what my chest freezer is at. I guess if you really wanted you could use dry ice to get even lower, but that is $$$. I have used dry ice to get transmission bearings into place but I wouldn't waste the money on lugs.
@LH816334 жыл бұрын
Issue is the length not fit! No room to remove insert unlike other manufacturers that put at least one hole so that you can pound it out and easily put in the new one!!!
@wingman186111 жыл бұрын
One of the many reason i still drive a 1gen dodge neon.the gap is already there to remove the wheel stud and you dont even have to remove the brake caliper. Its a good way to do it eric..dont listen to the haters.
@eastoahu11 жыл бұрын
That is a horrible reason to justify having a dodge neon.
@dav3fk11 жыл бұрын
You pick your car based on how well it caters to wheel stud replacement? I wouldn't drive a hunk of shit, just to make it easy to replace a part that should seldom need replacing, if ever.
@ohmythatsweird7 жыл бұрын
Half the people that thumbs down the video are the same people that wont pay the extra money to do it the proper way. If all mechanics went only buy factory spec,they would all be rich. This is clearly a work around for certain occasions .
@isahacks4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT!!!! I've done this in the past! And the heat you put on the stud when you grind them will 100% weaken the stud! I had them break off after doing this exact method about 10 yeara ago on a crx! Luckily I was not going fast but i had 3 of them break off in a matter of minutes! That said do as you wish! You've been warned.
@openeyes-4114 жыл бұрын
First thought that occurred to me as I watched was that letting it cool slowly would anneal and weaken it - I would imagine if you dipped in oil or water when you finished grinding it would at least somewhat temper it again...
@vcdrny11 жыл бұрын
I've done this many times on different vehicles and I guess I been lucky that I never ha to cut anything off. There is always a space to get the old ones out and the new ones in. Note to self stay away from older models Acuras RL.
@andyshandyshop92074 жыл бұрын
It's a repair that I have done before, using the same method that he used. He done good! You don;t want to rebuild the entire hub assembly for a wheel stud!
@nickb430210 жыл бұрын
Very heated debates on this video about torquing lug nuts. How hard is it really to pick up a torque wrench? Does it really save you that much time not using one?
@JustinCrediblename10 жыл бұрын
Hmm let's see I've never had a problem not torquing my lug nuts. Same with so many other guys. what do you say about that? blind luck?
@christopherkatz94843 жыл бұрын
It is pretty hard to pick one up when you don't have one 😅
@homeboy3916 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks Eric. I needed this video cause I had no idea how to replace the stud on my 06 Sonata without removing the wheel assembly, which is quite a chore. Some have commented that if a professional shop did this they would be upset. Honestly, if a professional shop use this method and it will resulted in less labor hours and parts for me then I wouldn't mind at all. I'll definitely invest in an air hammer. Thanks again!
@henrybikeman5 жыл бұрын
Pro tip for those worried about damaging the bearing while hammering out the broken stud: Leave wheel on ground and all good nuts tight. Drive broken stud back into hub using stiff punch. All the shock is taken within the wheel and tyre. Remove wheel and continue. I just did it with 2 good hammer blows, on a Toyota.
@itzchaparr06617 жыл бұрын
people actually getting mad by this method, i did this to my nissan like 4 yrs ago, and the wheel hasn't had any trouble :), Good job Eric save the customer some money
@tinydx95t211 жыл бұрын
I think that what you've done here is acceptable. I think that there is plenty of "meat" stud left on the stud head as you stated in the video.I've found that if you don't clean out the hole the stud will usually pull in without spinning using the lugnut method.
@treydogg774 жыл бұрын
Take a angle grinder and bevel that hub guard more. Less likely to damage the threads on the new studs. Nice shortcut I like it a lot!
@Mebob200111 жыл бұрын
for people thinking this would not work, you need to understand the mechanics beind it, the part that he did not grind off is trying to be pulled through the hole in the hub, there is so freaking way that is going to happen, the stud will snap before that happens, lug nuts will still have the same clamping force on them as before, nothing is weakened in this process, dont get me wrong i rather do it correctly but if it was my own car or truck, you better beleave i would do this, yes i am a tech like Eric but i work for Gm on diesel's
@Mebob200111 жыл бұрын
there ya go, people shouldnt saying anything hahah
@q......11 жыл бұрын
From my understanding the pull through force that it can take before the end snaps off is limited, and depending on which side is shaved off it can weaken it laterally to that side, but generally speaking the difference is not enough to make a huge difference.
@steveaverbach16410 жыл бұрын
Eric knows his stuff his advice has been extremely valuable in repairing our Acura CL Captive Rotor and wheel bearings!
@MandrewP11 жыл бұрын
Like Eric said, it's one way to do it. It's one option. And I believe that option has it's place. Anyone with any mechanical sense knows that this is not a structural weakness that endangers anybody or anything. We live in a real world with real considerations that need to be made. If someone has an old car that they need in order to stay employed and can't afford to replace the wheel bearing too, then this method is a blessing and saves the day. So why not? Those that say it's bad engineering need to get off their "high standards horse" and develop some consideration for their fellow man. We don't live in a perfect world. This option is perfectly viable and can be very beneficial to someone in need. In no way can anyone rightly say that this method is too dangerous or risky. It just ain't so! Now you may not want to do this on a new car, or to just save a rich guy some money, but it certainly has a place among the viable options for this kind of repair. It just plain cold hearted to ignore somebody's car repair dilemma for some irrelevant "high standards" crap. THAT'S what's stupid!
@KevinF212253 жыл бұрын
Facts
@matthewstorm51882 жыл бұрын
@ MandrewP On the other hand, there are better ways of dealing with this sort of thing. For instance, you can get an entire hub/knuckle assembly from a self service salvage yard quite cheaply and just swap the whole thing out. Yes, you have to take the time to go to the junkyard. But this is pretty simple for a DIYer. And the knuckle swap can be done fairly quickly.
@mienboiracer20911 жыл бұрын
hey Eric, idk if you've tried it or not, but I usually use a couple washers and an open ended lugnut to pull/seat the studs. the washers are in contact with the hub and prevents it from spinning the stud. I've had many successes doing it this way.
@mtothem133711 жыл бұрын
If you do this to your own car to save time, it's allright i suppose, but if a mechanic did this to my car i would probably not be happy about it.
@ericthecarguy11 жыл бұрын
That's fair. Truth is it's done all the time and very seldom there is an issue.
@sammycat0019 жыл бұрын
+mtothem1337 first of all, if you had a mechanic do the work. You would never know what was done. Unless you go back and check and for that much. You might as well do it yourself. Second this was an awesome video for a problem stud issue. Thanks again Eric. your videos are awesome
@ChaseJanus9 жыл бұрын
+mtothem1337 I mean the other option is the mechanic telling you that you have to pay for new wheel bearings and wait a few days for them to come in which I'm sure you also wouldn't be happy about. Keep up the great videos Eric!
@mtothem13379 жыл бұрын
***** I would rather have the work done properly even if it cost a bit more.
@shodanxx9 жыл бұрын
+mtothem1337 Actually it's often more than a wheel bearing (those are 20$). If you live somewhere there's snow in winter and your car is more than 5 years old, your CV joint will probably be stuck permanently in the hub. At that point you have to replace the bearing, knuckle and CV joint. That 2.50$ stud is now costing you above 1000$.
@tarnowek19 жыл бұрын
Excellent video...thinking "outside the box" ,as usual EricTheCarGuy has come good!
@tyree90553 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I've not had to deal with engineering this bad regarding wheel studs. But once the splines are aligned and it's close to being fully seated, I just torque it down when I put the wheel on. Stay Dirty & Studly! 😄
@tviele111 жыл бұрын
good video...shortcuts i have used many times...quite a few studs come from the factory with a portion already flat spotted for clearance issues... when drawing a stud in with a lug nut i would recommend lubricating the threads to prevent damaging them with the high load you put on them trying to force them in...
@jamisgood2111 жыл бұрын
THanks for yet another great video Eric! Wish i woulda watched this a few years ago when we did a few studs on my buddy's car. This is the method i will certainly use next time i need to do this. Surprised i didn't think of it earlier. As always, LOVE your vids man. Don't ever stop.
@762N8O7 жыл бұрын
Entertaining to say the least. Reminds me of when i was in high school and broke as hell You have steel nuts to post this
@heavydiesel11 жыл бұрын
Think if it was my car i'd rather it was done properly even if it ended up costing more. Though of course there are customer who will only care about the price so they end up getting what they are prepared to pay for!
@Cduerr9211 жыл бұрын
That's easy to say when you're not looking at a 250 dollar repair bill for a lug stud, as compared to 60-80 doing it this way.
@pcmasterfilms11 жыл бұрын
xX53preble53Xx Try about 6 dollars this way lol
@SgtPnkks11 жыл бұрын
pcmasterfilms you clearly forget about labor costs
@pcmasterfilms11 жыл бұрын
SgtPnkks I have a brain, soo only labor cost is the a half hour of my time.
@SgtPnkks11 жыл бұрын
pcmasterfilms that applies to you but not everyone... considering we're comparing to the hypothetical $250 repair bill which i'd assume for you would also be considerably lower
@everettclunie35258 жыл бұрын
I put a stud on a car for the first time today. I used a lug nut to draw the stud back in but I put several washers between the lug and hub down the stud. that did the trick to keep the stud from spinning too much while I turned it with a big boy ratchet. It was an 09 Hyundai Sonata and I lucked out with being able to get the angle to slide the stud in from the back with out grinding or cutting anything. But thanks to this video I managed it, so thanks for sharing the easy way!
@12101DyM8 жыл бұрын
To draw the stud in without an air hammer just use the lug nut and and another nut that slides over the stud, but doesn't thread on.
@CCWSig8 жыл бұрын
That's a incorrect way of doing it. That way will cause the stud to stretch and fatigue. Using a air hammer as shown, or a press is the only correct way.
@antoniomunoz2808 жыл бұрын
An air impact is not incorrect, it's just another method of doing it. And an air hammer is another, neither methods are incorrect.
@CCWSig8 жыл бұрын
You are incorrect. Using a impact can over torque the studs causing them to stretch, crack and ultimately fail. That's why there are torque wrenches, and published torque ratings for bolts. 150,000psi tensile strength sounds like a lot, but it really isn't, and is easily achievable with a quality impact gun.
@eliseviv5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Eric of the past. Your old vids are still the best. Ill be getting a thread file out later today. ;)
@SnowNinja11 жыл бұрын
Don't use an impact gun to tighten lugs on a car, you can lightly drive them on but do not impact them tight, use a torque wrench with the manufacturer specification to avoid doing this =)
@johncornharvester11 жыл бұрын
i've done this twice, on a honda accord and subaru forester, both worked great. would not hesitate to do it again, thanks eric.
@dhestondh8 жыл бұрын
great video used it today on a prelude Eric ur the man bro love the videos
@boofdfast8 жыл бұрын
What year prelude? Mine is an 89 Si 4ws, and it has two broken studs... What a pain the ass. Replaced two studs on my 81 280zx, took less than a half hour. Fwd SUCKS.
@izyb4783 жыл бұрын
I did somewhat the same on me 06 civic si front end. Bent the shield back in the smaller area and cut the cross threaded studs that was so very nicely messed up by tires plus and grinded the side as you did . Not flat though. Needed an angle to slip it in with the use of a 2lb 🔨.fyi tires plus has lost my any business in the future. It will be the 2nd time they do this to the same car. Thanks Eric. I have worked on a 93 accord and my 8th gen civic because you are one of the people out there which have been able to help me gain the confidence to get dirty and make it happen for myself.
@jsnjud3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. After watching it, I was expecting the worst on my 2010 Honda civic. Luckily, they designed it with a convenient hole in the shield to pop the old one out and put the new one in without having to grind or cut anything.
@thesilentdiva2 жыл бұрын
I love Honda, so practical
@SpinolaEnrique11 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the customer would be happier with the bill coming from this method, instead of the cost of paying for remove hub, bearing, and whoever knows what else. I really like your videos mate ;-)
@willrobinson957511 жыл бұрын
Most mechanics would charge what it cost to do it the right way and laugh all the way to the bank.
@s0nnyburnett11 жыл бұрын
That was painful to watch.
@jay73695 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@MC-hs4mf5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Superior97445 жыл бұрын
VALMER LYNN negan the car guy
@MrPew1711 жыл бұрын
You can call him a cheap lazy hack or whatever you want, but it works, and that's what counts. As always, great video Eric.
@jayohhhohhh28755 жыл бұрын
This doesn't look easy at all
@Marcus10k3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Just take off the rotor lmao why are we cutting things
@Marcus10k3 ай бұрын
Wait. After watching a second time. I do understand why he did it lol. But no just do it the right way
@pjkentucky3 жыл бұрын
When I have the problem of not able to feed a stud in the hub due to no clearance with the backing plate,I use a hole saw to make a 3/4" hole in the backing plate so the old stud can be removed and the new stud installed. I then take a solid rubber grommet to plug the hole when I'm done.The time would about the same and you have a nice finish result.
@gvvq-pi5ml11 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, i worked in the trade for 45 years so i know what your up against and how you feel, at the end of the day would the owner want to pay you $300 to do it the other way, prob not, you got the job done with minimal damage, i cant see the stud ever pulling out...i too found it hard pulling through with a nut, air gun seems to do it better, lot of crap sent to you on these comments, maybe they would like to have a go at it...Fred uk.
@ValleyRacing878 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric. To all the haters that's a $500 car and that's exactly what I would do. So simple and the pop-tin POS dust shield should have had an access point like most do anyway. Great Job and love watching your Video's.
@timothycwillis8 жыл бұрын
this works fine. good job
@MorrowSind5 жыл бұрын
My mom had her car inspected and the mechanic forgot to tighten the lug nuts on the one tire after rotation. The car was making a strange noise 2 days later after she drove a 20 mile trip and back. I jacked the car up. The tire was wobbly, so I took it off, and two lug nuts fell out; both broken off. This method looks great to me. Thanks for the video.
@MorrowSind5 жыл бұрын
The studs fell off with the lug nuts after I took the hub cap off. I forgot to mention that. It's late here.
@justsumguy2u11 жыл бұрын
I dunno, Eric....seems to me like grinding a notch in the backing plate, grinding down the wheel stud and then still having to deal with boogered-up threads was just as much work as pulling the hub.
@rayzian11 жыл бұрын
cheaper for customer though, price of 2 studs vs price of wheel bearing & hub assy
@dav3fk11 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't even necessarially need bearings, which are not expensive. It would just take more time to remove the knuckle, press everything apart and back together, and get it all torqued right, etc. He could have modified the knuckle/dust guard more effectively and safely, but yeah, this was generally all the wrong way. And jesus, what was honda thinking?
@dav3fk11 жыл бұрын
Sval Bard True. But that's not important for DIY'ers watching how to do this on youtube.
@atsernov10 жыл бұрын
dav3fk I disagree more with re-using press in wheel bearings than I do with this. Plus, if you don't like the idea of grinding down studs, buy cliphead studs. ;) They are made with a flat spot if it makes you feel better. I will say, as long as the customer is told something like "I can do it the dealer way and charge you 2 hours, or I can do it my way and charge you 0.5" I'm fine with it. The stud is still plenty strong, and the backing plate is still secure. As long as the customer pays an according rate I'm good with this. I'd be just fine doing this to my car.
@dav3fk10 жыл бұрын
atsernov I could be mis-understanding things..... but if it's like my car, I THINK all you need to do is unbolt the axle nut, and slip the hub off. No need to press out or replace the bearings at all, they're not interferance fit to the spindle, they're held on by the torque of the axle nut, they're just pressed into the hub.... right? Axle nut torque is very important (or the bearings have the wrong preload and eat themselves) and it's very important to use a new nut and cotter pin.... but still... Again, I could just be an idiot about it, or have forgotten the exact contents of this video.
@tedbonbrake19677 жыл бұрын
Ouch... I love your channel and most repairs shown are valid. I have actually done this repair on my personal cars a few times with no adverse effect. When you used the side of the grinder to make the flat on the lug though I had to cringe. My left tear duct just under my eye still carries a chip of a grinding wheel that exploded doing that exact thing. I was wearing safety glasses too, but when the bolt jumped just a little, I turned my head and when the explosion occurred, the fragment ricocheted off the bottom edge of the glasses and imbedded itself just under my eye. It looked like I had lost a bar room brawl for weeks. I still use the same method to this day, but wear a full face shield. A caution at this time in the video is warranted I think...
@onogrirwin5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, the customer has the money for the full procedure as specified in the manual. Great! Sometimes they have $82 and need their car back on the road to get to work. You going to help them or tell them to fuck off? That's why we do things like this. Different procedures for different situations.
@latitudemarine49758 жыл бұрын
Definitely going to use this method on my 2012 sentra. It couldn't be any more unsafe than driving around on 3 studs and I don't have the money to replace bearings and cv axles. Thanks for the vid.
@man_on_wheelz8 жыл бұрын
A mechanic replaced a stud on my moms rear wheel during a more complicated job and apparently screwed up real bad. Some time later she tells me her car makes a popping sound sometimes when she's backing up, I couldn't figure it out right away. So some weeks later when I got the chance, I removed the brake drum to change the shoes and hardware and immediately I see there's a broken spring just floating around in the drum and the brake adjuster was all bent to shit. So I'm like what the fuck could have caused this nightmare?!?! I remove the backing springs and the pins are bent all out of whack, and as I'm removing the shoes, half a rusted stud comes tumbling out of the assembly. There you have it! Whoever she took it to to get that work that involved replacing a stud done, they just hammered it back into the drum assembly, was probably too lazy to take it apart and retrieve the old piece, put a new stud in, put the WRONG TYPE OF LUG NUT ON THE CAR and sent it on it's way. I wish she could remember who she took it to cause I'd drill them a new asshole for causing us all this trouble. Do you know how hard it is to get a new brake adjuster for a 2003 Mitsubishi Outlander?!?! Out of sheer luck I found 1, count 'em, ONE Outlander at the junk yard with the back drums laying dug into the ground. I had to pull a jack from another car to lift it a little to get the part out. In all the years she's owned that car I have never come across her car at the yard, it's actually a really well built car and reportedly seems to run forever.
@joeespinoza39818 жыл бұрын
people don't understand this method is wrong should not be taught thank God this guys mom didn't get hurt or worst
@dylandrumhero67 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip man! I gotta get new studs and start this project ASAP, just snapped a couple lugs putting my summer wheels back on.
@danosleeper92947 жыл бұрын
Good shit! This is exactly how i do mine.good to know the world has some smart people left
@nd41203 жыл бұрын
The only thing i could think of was ..."happy gilmore" "just give it a tap!! Tappy tap tap taparoo" lmao 😂
@danabasinski11 жыл бұрын
Can vouch for this method working well, did the exact same thing on my 95 Honda Civic. Worked well and was quick and easy.
@matthewlee91311 жыл бұрын
Changed the brake pads on my 97 Avalon last summer... 2 studs broke after using my impact drill to replace the lug nuts. Damn tire fell off while my wife was driving :( Got new studs on it immediately, lesson learned.
@miloman8125 жыл бұрын
Dude really knows his shit. Love how fluently he speaks as well. Goes to show he really does know what he’s talking about. If I made this video, I’d be saying “uhmmmm” a lot
@naturalresourcepro83834 жыл бұрын
I'm here because I'm currently doing this job myself. Couldn't believe a broke stud turned into such a huge job. Personally, I wouldn't do it his way, but I get why people do. On my 07' Honda CRV, there is zero room for cutting - the back of the stud is not too far from the bearing housing. It's of course not a removable assembly either. I was able to leave the steering knuckle partially installed, and with the CV joint out, I used a puller/installer on the bearing and hub assembly.
@shodanxx9 жыл бұрын
Why not dig a groove in the knuckle ? Grinding off 1/4" into the knuckle casting seems to me safer than removing 1/3" of the stud thrust surface.
@Bryce.H6049 жыл бұрын
+shodanxx so instead of effecting an interference stud with a hubcentric wheel (takes load away from the studs). You what to score also heating a cast piece of the suspension, which will than shatter the first pot hole u hit hard. its not 100% proper yet customer didnt have to pay an extra $250 they probably didnt have
@shodanxx9 жыл бұрын
The casting is about 1 inch thick at this location. You don't have to heat it, just grind a bit off. As long as you blend it smooth it will do nothing bad to the part. Castings work mostly in compression and most of the weight goes through the knuckle's central axis. This is nothing compared to what corrosion does to these parts yet they rarely break. Those studs hold just as much weight as the entire knuckle and they do it on that tiny face which just had 1/3 of its trust face grinded off. Way, way better to grind that off the knuckle rather than the studs.
@ferreiraaveiro39088 жыл бұрын
+shodanxx i was thinking about that
@BigBrotherIsTooBig8 жыл бұрын
+shodanxx Think about it this way...that stud with 1/3 of its face ground off does more to hold on your wheel than a stud without a lug nut.
@shodanxx8 жыл бұрын
BigBrotherIsTooBig It also does less than an intact stud.
@irishk5blazer11 жыл бұрын
usdot has a rule on stud design a> you have taking the harding out of the stud by heating on the grinder b> you have cut a 1/3 of the strength away. C> that dust guard is there for a reason. but guess your right make it cheap screw doing it right and screw the threads up in the process
@mexskal11 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha really hahahahah because he took one third to the stud u came to the conclusion that the took one third of the strength sure and the grinder didn't get it that hard to change anything because it needs to get way hotter to affect it and the ventilation shield was not affected because he did not cut the actual shield just one section which does not redirect air to the rotor due to the small size. u could consider it a inert section meaning honda could easily not include that section in the shield period so i don't know where u get ur info
@dabruiser79386 жыл бұрын
Did the same thing on my 2008 Accord in the front passengers side. I had to grind some more metal between the hub assembly and the dust shield for clearance. 11k Miles later and no issues, and I have taken off that tire a few times since with no issues. This is a cost saver, and don’t worry to much about the metal not being strong enough after tapering the head of the bolt because it’s still better to have that than not to have a lug nut on it anyways. Godbless
@illusmode10 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy, Thank you! I have a 2001 acura CL and replaced a stud using this method. Worked! I don't have air tools and it took me a few tries. But i just used a hammer, nail set kit (used to countersink finishing nails), bench grinder, vise grip pliers, rachet, rope to tie caliper, and sockets. The nail set kit worked really well to punch the stud out (I was lucky enough that my stud broke short enough that i could punch it out.). I'd say maybe a punch would work better, but i thought this tool would be useful down the line in household work. Anyways, thanks again.
@moxiemovers67758 жыл бұрын
Worth watching for 3:55 slip
@mrchabs68564 жыл бұрын
Moxie Movers Lmfaoo
@VeryTucker11 жыл бұрын
I've seen this method before. I do not like the idea of grinding off any part of a stressed stud's head. While there is not nearly as much lateral load on the wheel hub when compared to other forces, there is still some. While this is not really a big deal and I am 99.9% sure nothing will ever happen to it. I just don't like the idea and I couldn't sleep on it. I appreciated the video though! You have taught me lots so thank you for that!
@GloveBunniesVideos11 жыл бұрын
A somewhat elegant solution to an obvious design flaw. ;-)
@tyree90553 жыл бұрын
Yes, the automotive engineers f'ed up on that one. What were they thinking? I wouldn't buy a car where the engineering was this ignorant! 😅
@jthresher786 жыл бұрын
Can't believe so many people get upset with this method. Nice idea, Eric. He clearly states not everyone may like it, but it is a viable alternative and some of us do work on old cars where what it looks like isn't all that important. Does anyone think some car manufacturers purposely design them this way in order to ramp up the cost and complexity of repairing them? I do. This is what's wrong with the engineering designs on newer cars and manufacturers don't care about the cost to customers, only the bottom line profit$.
@agg4210 жыл бұрын
pretty sure every honda DIY'er have been doing this job just this way if they don't have access to a 20 ton Hydraulic press and a set of large sockets. In fact this method predates eric's video by some years. Take a look around Honda/Acura forums. No need to rip on anyone Chis Pellatt.
@Fortheloveofjdm3 жыл бұрын
Did this today to my 7th gen ex front passenger side. If I break another one on that same side I already have a neat section cut out too. Thanks Eric
@lukeFugate11 жыл бұрын
I would do this on my own car but not on a customers just doesn't seem professional.
@changospank17 жыл бұрын
customer- "I need these studs replaced how much would that cost?" Ericthecarguy- "well on this car i need to remove the hub assembly, axle nut which sill sometimes result in a damaged bearing which will set you back a couple of $$$$$ or I could just cut away that metal piece and it would only cost a quarter of the $$$" customer "hmmmm just a metal piece huh? fuck it, do it" and that's how these things go my friend.
@Letusbeguided7 жыл бұрын
Haha that's pretty much it. Customers are tight arses who don't want to pay for proper repair. I always offer the proper repair too though.
@user-nl9ne5gk6k6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even ever give a customer this DANGEROUS option! Cutting all that surface material off of them studs DOES weaken the studs, and I know when I'm doing 55-65-95mph on a highway, last thing I would want is for my wheels to start falling off due to failed lug studs! I've pulled countless axles over the past 35+ years that I've been repairing vehicles and have NEVER once ruined or busted any bearings doing so, and I have also NEVER cut holes in heat/dust shields! That is just some LAZY amateur bullshit! If you can't pull a rear axle and change the stud correctly in 30 mins or less, than you're just in the wrong line of work and need to find a new job!
@alexandercabral13966 жыл бұрын
It’s not just pulling the axle, the hub has to be pressed out of the knuckle and that could damage the bearing in removal
@TheBlackstealth6 жыл бұрын
NYMetal Guy I think that's a front axle as well
@frankm23854 жыл бұрын
I got ready to bang my wheel stud out with a hammer until I saw this video. Put it back and grabbed the air hammer. 10 seconds later I was putting in the new stud. Thank you 🙏