The Bull Moose With Corvette Sound

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Ray Watson with MooseMods.com was nice enough to take me along for a flight in the Bull Moose that he built. Normally these come stock with a radial engine, but Ray has installed an LS3 Corvette engine that sounds like a hot rod!!!
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www.moosemods.com

[@Scoobyxxxsnax]

imagine hearing a ls swap up above you..

[@JR-ue2cx]

gapped in airplane

[@thatguyalex2835]

I would love to hear that. I am wondering if a supercharged LS engine could be used to recharge some batteries and a super capacitor for a small hybrid regional airliner (< 40 seats). :)

[@deborahchesser7375]

@@thatguyalex2835 it’s the only way electric engined planes can fly, at least for now.

[@lknanml]

That engine was happy to see the "drag strip" again but it was really confused when it found itself at altitude.

[@homefront3162]

nice one! 👍🏻

[@ryanh1222]

Hilarious

[@20yearsago]

@Sterling Phoenix lmfaoo deadass?

[@aidenpedro4819]

you probably dont give a damn but does someone know a way to log back into an Instagram account?? I was stupid lost the password. I would love any assistance you can offer me

[@hunterkaden2701]

@Aiden Pedro instablaster ;)

[@sablestryker]

This is so cool. Automotive engines are so reliable nowadays it’s surprising you don’t see more used in Experimentals. Great sound!

[@Mrcaffinebean]

Yeah it seems to scare even most experimental builders

[@Bray3k]

They were reliable a long time ago to

[@JayAR_YT]

@@Bray3k I can run a 140k 6.0 at like 400 crank hp at 3,000rpm just cruising

[@KlingonCaptain]

There are planes with Honda Accord engines. They seem to work pretty well.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

The problem with automotive engines is the lack or redundancy. If power goes out to the ECU, that’s it. If the plane goes inverted for some reason and looses oil pressure, you’re done. If the primary ignition system looses power, ya done. If the fuel pump goes out, sayonara. Now aviation engines do have failure points, but many of those points are minimized by sacrificing horsepower for reliability. For example, by going with mechanical fuel pumps, magneto ignition, and using an extra redundant ignition system. And other fundamental features lead to a more reliable design, such as using a low RPM engine that doesn’t require a reduction gear. Many of these problems can be solved with good design and engineering, but unfortunately most experimental pilots don’t take these into consideration due to additional expenses and time involved in implementing them. An example would be using a custom cylinder head with an extra plug per cylinder, or giving each bank of cylinders its own ECU and ignition system.

[@flyifri]

I don't know why, but I thought the Murphy Moose had more shoulder room. The engine sounded sweet after idling back into a cruise. Thank you for sharing this amassing update.!

[@bouyant8659]

LOVE THE HEIGHT OF THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER... SITTING ABOVE IT/THEM IS FANTASTIC

[@jim5148]

Those pipes would sound really good for about 5 minutes.

[@smoothuncut]

The shots of the landing was INCREDIBLE. ThanQ 4 that!

[@txnetcop]

That front nose taper and all around visibility are amazing...beautiful aircraft!

[@ErikJohnston]

TxCowPoke It sure is. Taxiing is great with that visibility over the nose

[@herryrachmad333]

I like the engine sounds when throttle up

[@1950harleycharley]

Beautiful sound and flight and the landing was PERFECT....great combination of plane and engine!

[@driftliketokyo34ftw35]

Imagine flying around and hearing a corvette coming up behind you.

[@MrLikeke]

A fantastic landing. No close-ups of the instrument panel. This machine reminds me of what Ben Haas did to his CH-801. Eternal wings, Ben.

[@ozziepilot2899]

Very very nice and the sound of the motor, music to my ears :)

[@CaptainCurt07]

Omg are we related, I love light Sport aircraft and Of course Corvettes, Love it, and nice job on the numerous shots👍🏼

[@dedododo-dedadada7957]

What a beautiful aircraft!

[@GoatMan-dl5ds]

The beauty of putting muscle car engines in a plane is it eliminates the muscle cars main weakness turning.

[@c3vs241]

Beautiful looking aircraft 🛩

[@GM.572]

That’s freaking badass, man !!!

[@Robert-mv8dw]

I enjoyed the whole video!

[@howardskinner4916]

Nice landing!

[@SuperYellowsubmarin]

It just couldn't sound any better !

[@Sussexman.]

I’d love to live there

[@mytubehkjt]

Awesome! Lets hear/see some performance numbers. Also, how are the vibration levels?

[@sumrica]

Fine looking aircraft.

[@Pablo-sr5bx]

Beast.

[@homefront3162]

Damn fine Aircraft

[@jbw3]

I can't think of anything more American. Great video!

[@darrylwbraun]

Except it's a Canadian design 😁 , just a little poke in ribs for ya. Clear skies friend 👍

[@1compaqedr8]

P-51 Mustang.

[@thatguyalex2835]

@@darrylwbraun Well technically Canada is part of North America, so we can say "I can't think of anything more North American". :) I have been overseas, but have never been to Canada, even though it is < 300 miles away from where I live. Would love to go to Canada one of these days.

[@SurfCityVideo]

Amazing plane. What community/airport are you departing from?

[@walttrueman4982]

Super video! I applauded for $10.00 👏👏👏

[@ErikJohnston]

Totally awesome! Thanks so much for your support. It sure means a lot that you just like the video!!

[@HarleybyHerm_]

Reminds me of an airboat comin Down the bayou

[@toomanywaystofall]

Dang those Chevys'!

[@ckafam]

Great video. How many hours on the engine and gearbox now?

[@bobcrawford5083]

real gear head pilot and inventer

[@jimerickson4754]

AWESOME Video! I suggest a stronger camera mount or a yaw dampener for a few views! ;) Incredible sound from the engine, great looking aircraft! Keep the videos coming!

[@ErikJohnston]

Jim Erickson Yea I got a little camera shake from a mount or two. I don’t normally get that but bound to happen with as many planes as I shoot.

[@OldManMuskrat]

The drone inside the cabin must be crazy, I'd have to have a muffler

[@justanotheraviator2357]

I love that engine! A buddy of mine once saw a Corvette LS3 Skyhawk and wanted to make his similarly. I'd love to make a plane engine swap, however I'm going to stick with truck swapping.

[@5xls]

Good thing you’re wearing your Bose. That exhaust would get old quickly.

[@BikingVikingHH]

A single cylinder bank of any V engine sounds like shit. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@robertcecil6880]

5xls and you lost your hearing in your car right? Smartassery aside, don’t know to many pilots who don’t rely open their headsets anyway.

[@indridcold8433]

Nah, you grow to live it like the exhaust of a Harley-Davidson, the flapping of an old Jeep's soft top at freeway speeds, and the turbo whine of a large diesel.

[@richardharrold9736]

I'd put a stock Camaro exhaust with silencers and cats on it if possible...

[@carlmccall7198]

Man card revoked

[@bigmoecosmo8232]

Who says Corvettes can't fly? I like car motors in planes....always thought it was cool. But, what's the NTSB safety record for automobile engines in aircraft? I guess I'll have to look it up.

[@FELiPES101]

wow thats really tight up front with two normal guys

[@MaikiStarwood]

Did it have to have a radiator installed with the Corvette engine? If so, then where, in front?

[@chazdvl]

It seems like approach speed is really high. What is the Take-off and Landing over 50ft obstacle numbers on the Bull Moose?

[@galbar-or7851]

I’ve flown in that airplane in the past and it’s amazing. Not only does it get up and go, but you don’t have to worry about room to carry your camping gear!

[@estudiom142]

My F250 Cummins needs that motor !!! OMG! LS3 480HP!!

[@QuentinCarter1975]

What prop governor is used on the LS3 and how is the oil fed?

[@jeffpennington2043]

VERY NICE. M R. BULL MOOSE!!! What is the reduction ratio 🇺🇸✌👍👍🎦🚀🇺🇸

[@randalljames1]

Tower, this is Ghost rider requesting a flyby

[@MariaOrLex]

What’s the fuel burn look like???

[@AMV12S]

how did you solved the oil sump? it has a dry sump like LS7?

[@AndreS_-df2nw]

How does the ECU compensate for altitude? Doesn't the MAP sensor set the fuel curve at start-up? Or is there another sensor so the ECU compensates automatically as you gain altitude to lean it out?

[@jimmyaber5920]

It has become common to have a surface mounted baro sensor inside the ECM on the board.

[@wileecohagen]

With those air evacuation slots on the side of the nose this plane looks like a bull shark!

[@user-xu3ok2qe4f]

What company provides the engine ready to fly please ?

[@johnchristensen3030]

what about that landing, that was smooth.

[@joejernigan4015]

How many hours is the engine good for

[@terremoto..6809]

Sounds like my weedeater

[@gregc247]

I wonder if they had to switch to dry sump lubrication on it, also what the fuel consumption is like

[@justtwoseats]

I think a standard LS3 build is around 400HP and consumes at about 25GPH at 75%. This one says 480HP on the side so a full cruise might be closer to 30. Which is actually pretty good. That's like a 20% reduction in BSFC compared to your typical Lycoming/Continentals

[@nelsonmartinmusic]

Actually, at 155 to 170 mph cruise, he says he uses more like 12 to 15 gallons per hour.

[@jrgb9945]

The biggest expense in GA is the engines. An LS Chevy is affordable. I'd proven reliable for GA is a great idea.

[@ccubsfan94]

The question is the transmission for the prop, those aren't cheap, iirc you're close to a io540 with cost. But, rebuilds are waaaay cheaper

[@Deterrent-xz5zz]

This is what they mean by LS swap everything

[@randalljames1]

friction tape coming off left side? :)

[@destro513]

So is this plane a kit or full handmade?

[@evopwrmods]

www.murphyair.com/ and Moosemods.com

[@graycloud057]

Vrooom Vrooom!

[@34boo]

what was that bar between them he pulled on for.

[@ErikJohnston]

34boo Flap handle

[@tonylam9548]

Those engines produce enough HP I can easily afford a bit of loss by adding a good muffler Maybe more reduction and more prop blades. One problem with these engines is the single belt driving the alternator and water pump. A single point failure item. I know at least one SeaBee crashed because the alternator front bearing seized and killed the belt, then the water pump quit. It is possible to add a electric water pump to the system. The water pump can also leak.

[@jrgb9945]

I'd have to have a BullWinkle on the side somewhere.

[@Zt3v3]

Was that up by Spokane?

[@rhysjones5469]

Steve Johnson I’d say he took off out of Chewelah municipal

[@ericswild]

What is up with the picture quality??

[@leonardwilliams8109]

Bull Moose with C150 cabin width?

[@JoeLinux2000]

Where is this area?

[@getdusty1]

I'll bet you can really smoke the tires with that!!!!!

[@Messier87_M87]

Would there be any advantage to adding a turbo to this engine for this particular aircraft?

[@williammason5961]

Adding a turbo will allow normalization to sea level. Yes, that's a benefit. Turbo would also take some bite out of the exhaust note. There are drawbacks to adding a turbo relating to under cowl temperatures and system complexity.

[@blackbirdxx928]

Might as well go twin turbo...the last ls6 twin turbo we did for a buggy made almost 900 hp on the dyno....and to prove a point my boss had them run it at 600 hp throttle setting for 20 straight min.

[@ccubsfan94]

@@blackbirdxx928 Turbos on planes aren't usually to add power, its to keep power to a higher altitude.

[@JayAR_YT]

Make 600hp with a nice set of turbos at 4500rpm and a torquer cam obviously built internals low weight everything too.

[@haroldwyaat]

what if theres a planed power corvette

[@1compaqedr8]

Lots of exposed metal in the cabin. Cool 6 seat experimental.

[@chonpiras2815]

chingon

[@obsoleteprofessor2034]

Low cowling..is the engine inverted? Does the prop get fed oil through the crank (modified?) or is it an electric prop? Edit...I saw your walk around video. Clever build!

[@ryanhewitt7981]

obsolete professor i would assume it’s running a redrive kit the engine is mounted with the transmission end forward and a gear box reduction drive on it

[@veizour]

What RPMs was it running at during cruise?

[@hawkdsl]

he said 4k in the vid

[@veizour]

@@hawkdsl Whoops! Missed it. Thank you.

[@asaschlobohm]

So how does the work without transmission? Teach me something:)

[@jacobhorne6749]

Typically a reduction gearbox is fitted to the front of the motor that runs right off the crankshaft

[@scottmajor2620]

I need one of those “Tim the Toolman Taylor” memes.

[@MrDejast]

I love airplane noise.

[@homefront3162]

Cruise RPM????

[@verothacamaro]

This is exactly what I want to know, too.

[@JayAR_YT]

Sounds like 4000

[@stevemyers2092]

i think I would at least put some glass packs on the pipes. sounds like a truck. Your going to get dual frequency "drone" from those separated exhausts.

[@GWH1965]

Man that's loud as F. He should put a stainless exhaust system with performance mufflers and side pipes or system running down under the body like a car or truck. In another video the dude said it will carry 1200 lbs cargo. so the weight of exhaust and mufflers shouldn't be a problem.

[@homefront3162]

Even some shorty cans would help

[@ryanh1222]

Yeah listening to that in flight would drive me crazy.

[@homefront3162]

das wright Very True

[@brianmorrison9066]

Notice those headphones they have on? They block noise very well.

[@nevillecreativitymentor]

deja vu deja vu deja vu !!!!! (guess why?)

[@mrSkandalpolisen]

What rpm are you running during take-off and in cruise speed? Be careful, automotive engines generally aren't built for long term high power and rpm.

[@bluemut55]

Ask any boat owner and you'll find out they're fine for extended run times. Maintenance and service.

[@brustar5152]

Better tell someone at NASCAR. It would seem they're not aware.

[@mrSkandalpolisen]

Bru Star How many races does an average engine make it in NASCAR even though they are equipped with special pistons, connecting rods, crankshaft, bearings, modified oil channels, oil pump?

[@mrSkandalpolisen]

bluemut55 it's a well known fact that the stock LS3 is prone to rpm related failures in cars. This problem should be even worse when used like this in higher rpm and more long term high power.

[@hawkdsl]

@@mrSkandalpolisen All three of your post are nonsense. Modern LS chevy engines are probably the best v8 ever created.. and again with this myth that auto engines can't maintain RPM for long duration. nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense. Just freaking repeated BS. Even gen 3 engines from both Ford and Chevy can run all day up to red line for DECADES... They also are used in farming and some heavy haul trucks geared so high, they run at 4 grand at highway speeds. But go ah head.. say your bullshit until your blue in the face.

[@giocattolo0126]

I dont understand how he got this in there legally? Does it have an aircraft magneto ignition system? Twin spark plugs? Experimental status? If anyone knows pls reply

[@noellwilson1273]

Giocattolo012 There’s a “walk around” video where he says that eight separate coils provide as much redundancy as dual magnetos.

[@sblack48]

It is a homebuilt. Experimental Amateur Built category. You can do whatever you want. You can power it with a giant rubber band if you want.

[@El-Hombre-Random]

How would another with a Ferrari engine look?

[@ToolofSociety]

I almost just posted an image of a plane in the hanger because a Ferrari engine equipped plane would spend far more time in the hanger getting maintenance done than actually flying. That's why used Ferrari's are so cheap because the maintenance requirements and part costs are absurd.

[@BondServant1110]

So......where's the Corvette decal?

[@ErikJohnston]

Both sides of the nose

[@homefront3162]

ErikJohnston Nice Answer!

[@1950harleycharley]

On the engine and cowling

[@lawrencefox563]

Couer de leine Idaho,did I spell it right my French is rusty?

[@raywatson2458]

Close...Coeur d'Alene.

[@theobserver1219]

Cool craft but seating too narrow! Shoulders riding over the other! I don't know if that is standard. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

[@AremStefaniaK]

when your need to overcompansate the muscle car to beat street rice with wing larger than what fits and you end up wheels off the ground

[@jwagner1993]

With redundancy in electrical stuff ok..

[@tinolino58]

That cockpit looks narrow.

[@ScottDLR]

What kind of RPM at cruise? Must use a TON of fuel!

[@johntempest267]

Compared to a Lycoming of equal horsepower it is much more efficient.

[@tommyzawr]

Put a Cummins in one😝

[@Gopferteckel]

Music in anyone’s language

[@jumpinjack1]

Sounds pretty neat but would be a little concerning to me to be running that v8 on such a high power setting and high rpm's.......a step in the right direction though :) . What would be neat is to take a stock 2.7 or 3.5 liter ecoboost engine from a new F150 and mod it for aircraft. There is enough of these proven engines now with a price that would give Cont. and Lycoming some competition.

[@candacebenton9618]

High RPM just to cruise 🤔🤔🤔

[@pcowdrey]

I have this question...no- statement. First of all, I really like the airplane. But- you have to realize that the whole business of "No muffler" was to maximize power-to-weight ratio. To give more power. There are indeed some airplanes that DO have mufflers and I really like the idea. Less noise, less stress on long flights, no need for the headphones to hear the person sitting right next to you.This airplane has enough power that it can well afford the little extra weight of a well-designed muffler. An engine can sound good, even REALLY good and not need to be loud.And, yes- single exhaust sounds really good on a V-8 engine. If you want something to sound like a dragster...get a dragster.But, again- very nice airplane.Now to my question. (And, I should already know this.) With an automotive engine, how do you get dual ignition?Let me guess: You don't. =PC=

[@MrApru1]

Sounds like a rotax honestly. Sounds like hell.

[@ErikJohnston]

Want2Race A Rotax sounds like a weed eater. I guess you have to be there, but this actually sounds pretty cool.

[@raging_rhino2582]

They should have stretched that cabin to be 2 full grown men wide

[@pcowdrey]

Yes- I'm "old fashioned". When I was learning to fly, in '64, we didn't need no dang headphones. We just yelled at eachother. No- TURNED and yelled at eachother. =PC=

[@TruckTaxiMoveIt]

Empathizing with the passenger he looks extremely cramped and uncomfortable