An escorted tour of the inactive E&LS line from Crivitz to Marinette, WI in 4-2024. See current conditions and one surprise that lurked in the forest.
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@Jleed9894 ай бұрын
Interesting video! Wish we had a time machine and could go back and see all of these tracks operating in their hey day.
@paulbergen91144 ай бұрын
Certainly serving some of the smallest towns one could dream of. I was last there in 2011 and I do remember hundreds of cars jamming that line one couldn't help but think of the problems they would encounter if you had to dig out specific cars. Thank you for your coverage of this subject
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
Not always but a lot of time when cars are stored for other parties, there is a "no cherry picking" requirement. And if specific cars are requested, then a hefty switch charge usually makes things worth the effort. But yes, it is still a pain in the ....
@Sven_Okas19674 ай бұрын
Thanks for that video. Thats railroad history. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
@bryceranta38984 ай бұрын
on July 17 of 2022, box cars were pulled out of storage on the line from Crivitz to Loomis. so it there has been a train from Loomis to Crivitz. Anything east of Loomis to Marinette, has been at least from 2008.
@Paul0704 ай бұрын
When i worked out of green bay for the WC/CN, we interchanged cars for storage on those lines. We would get 20 to 40 cars a week for them at one point all going into storage.
@BadgerlandRailVideos4 ай бұрын
Might as well put up Exempt signage on the crossings...no point having school buses stop and check the tracks.
@christolly26904 ай бұрын
Very nice video narrative of that line. I did a pictoral narrative of the crossings on this line back in 2019 and posted them in an album on the ELS FB group.
@twofoottaylor14 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video, it's always interesting but sad to see old right-of-ways that are no longer in use. I'm surprised they didn't take up a lot of the tracks and ties. It's unfortunate a lot of these railways were abandoned. (Sorry, from Ontario, we call them railways) Thank you so much for sharing this video.
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
In a few weeks I'll be doing another inactive line.
@thomasboese37934 ай бұрын
Interesting... I wonder why they left the box cars and if in the past they were going to use them again? Surly they are worth scraping, just roll them into Alter Metal.
@user-lq4mo8dw1p4 ай бұрын
It's storage, they will use them again ...
@QuadMochaMatti17 күн бұрын
Oh, that's close to the territory of that Yooperlite guy with the Grizzly Adams beard.
@killerbee631017 күн бұрын
Yes, Jason.
@seanmalinovsky68714 ай бұрын
I live just a few miles outta crivitz and I live near that particular line. I think its a line that branches off of the one in crivitz. Hey if ya ever wanna get some good railfanin in the main yard is right in town the trains usually go through at around 10:00 am and 12:30. I may be wrong im an amateur railfanner
@buckyc.90694 ай бұрын
That SantaFe "XF" box was a long way from home.
@csxjim4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't turn it into a rails to trails.
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
it is not technically abandoned
@csxjim4 ай бұрын
Ah that makes sense. It's there if they ever decide to reopen it. I ride the haywire in the u.p. trail 41 from shingleton to manistique. So many cool things to see and new history kiosks at what would of been a station.
@littlewingpsc274 ай бұрын
Doesn't look like it would take much effort to clear the line and put it back into use if there were customers to serve and the bridges were still in good condition.
@Palanthon4 ай бұрын
Looks more those cars are never coming out of there.
@fayeharris73914 ай бұрын
Just saw your video and I like to see the rails used and shiny. Too bad those are not currently being used. How are they connected to the trackage that Jason videos regularly and is there a chance they might be reactivated again? PS I live in Ga.
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching !! This line is connected at Crivitz, where the video started, to the active portion of the railroad. The ELS actually operates Marinette-Menominee as an isolated "island", with CN bringing the cars up. So no traffic was lost by the line being inactive.
@microbusss4 ай бұрын
a rail mower would improve the line am surprised there isn't any defunct or out of service signs on the crossings
@buckyc.90694 ай бұрын
I thought they would leave the crossbucks intact and add "exempt" signs.
@matthunt56024 ай бұрын
From what I understand one of the bridges is in bad shape and is not economical to repair. By the way great video!
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
True - it only takes one bridge! Thank you for watching.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y4 ай бұрын
2:09 - we know where all the local kids hang out and horse around.....
@user-dt3nt1gg9l27 күн бұрын
Question, is the E&LS still switching out the Kimberly-Clark mill in Marinette, & if so, is it just a switching road there, that turns the traffic over to the CN main in town, these days 🤔 !!!??????
@killerbee631027 күн бұрын
It's complicated. Both ELS and CN once had line hauls into M&M. ELS then negotiated I believe Haulage Rights(?) by CN to move their traffic from Green Bay up to M&M, allowing them to stop operating the branch from Crivitz to M&M. They then crafted a switching agreement, whereby ELS did the switching for both roads. They both had access to the industries, and it was redundant for both to switch the same industries. I am not sure if there is still separate "ELS" and "CN" traffic going into M&M or if has been all converted over to just "CN" with ELS simply collecting a switch charge. Clear as mud?
@user-dt3nt1gg9l27 күн бұрын
I swear I had just saw a current video of the E&LS once again using the line to Crivitz, but seeing this video tells me it must be from the past 🤔 ???!!!??? It shows a switcher going down a forest tunnel, where the tracks definitely match the forest tunnel it was traveling thru 😥 !!!
@killerbee631027 күн бұрын
@@user-dt3nt1gg9l you mean the Crivitz to Menominee line? It is impassible and also has a handful of storage cars still sitting on it.
@the_atsf_railfan29264 ай бұрын
As someone from Wisconsin, this happens to about 50 percent of railroad lines that are not CN (It's not actually 50 percent but that's just what it feels like)
@nancy85214 ай бұрын
Why dont they up grade and update
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
ELS cars get to Menominee-Marinette via CN. So this line is redundant.
@Thunder_6278Ай бұрын
Dead as a dodo. No need for it if it doesn't serve any customers anymore. Sad.
@chuckgilly4 ай бұрын
You must be the one who called me "Capitan Obvious" in the comments on another channel. Hummm, KillerBee. That rings a bell.
@killerbee63104 ай бұрын
I do not believe so. I think this is the first time I have used that moniker.