A class tier list for early 2024, based off of Update 40. Ranked based on how strong each class is when optimally played in a purely randomized PvP scenario. ▶ / discord ▶ / decimus ▶ / decimusofficial ▶ decimusgaming....
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@ssjhunterx9 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I was in agreement with everything you said! I play every class as well, which leads me to similar conclusions for each.
@Ragedrum19 ай бұрын
i see a bearded man talking about eso without a slimy screeching voice like deltion or however this guy is called , i press like xD
@ohdontmindme58009 ай бұрын
Finally a tierlist i can agree on some still coping that necro can do something or even puts it high rank or putting NB godtier.
@ericg99509 ай бұрын
This tier list is spot on, well done. Moving stamcro to C tier was the final touch.
@summerbrez9 ай бұрын
This is a very good tier list! As someone else said in the comments I agree that NB nowhere near DK and it's annoying when people put them in the same tier. DK is basically THE CLASS if we talk PvP although NBs are good too just quite not at that extend So 1 place I'm 100% agree Then I'd personally put stam arc Then magblade and stamsorc Then stamden, stamblade, stamplar Magden I like a lot and think it's super fun but it requires either wretched or Breton to even be able to play it (at least in bgs) cuz sustain and also unfortunately it doesn't have the best damage but from the fun standpoint it's great Honestly stamcro with dot meta setup can be quite good as well Mag sorc , plar, cro I don't really like that much, they are basically the weaker versions of stam of the same class
@Offenberg899 ай бұрын
Necro is doing rough atm but i still play it and have fun. Nice list btw.
@ibraheem64449 ай бұрын
You having fun and that's the most important thing
@MarkHoover-dv7mf8 ай бұрын
Nb has the highest ceiling imo. You can easily outmanuever people if you really want to by using the the shade. Incap is better than corrosive because its far cheaper and once you see that green glow, you just bail for a second and then reengage. Dk doesn't have merciless resolve. Whip is powerful, but nothing to really compete with a 1 button evade any single target and 100% crit, incap 20% bump do dps, merciless and a unblockable/dodge able cc (fear).
@volodymyrsavchuk24497 ай бұрын
if dk survive this, wich good player can easilly do if ping let it, he break free from incap, rolldodge bow proc and use coag for 70%+- amount of health. And even if mersiless proc was not dodged it is not garanreed that this combo will be enough for killing, just 1 coagulating blood (in rare situation 2) will be enough. I dont even remember that i had killed by nb (exceptions:bomers and vampgankers) when i was on dk(had only bloodspawn and trickery for survivability). Gankers are annoying, bombers are annoying. But it is a neccesairy evil to counter ballgroups and very tanky players. But it's just my opinion. I'm a semi-noob in PvP
@christopherwilder589 ай бұрын
What race would you play on MagDK beside Khajiit?
@Decimus9 ай бұрын
You can really play any race on it, but maybe I'd prefer dunmer for the simple fact that having higher stamina pool means you get more stamina back from Battle Roar passive as well as you won't go over your maximum off-stat as easily when you ult. If you want to meme around dunmer also allows you to stand in lava a lot better and chain people into it. Small things though - you'll be fine on other races too (maybe not stamina ones like bosmer, redguard etc).
@blikakos9 ай бұрын
Nice video!! What is the MagAnist build?
@Decimus9 ай бұрын
Magcanist is not on the website yet (working on it), but here's a build editor link to what I like to play on it: en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=592170
@knavenformed94369 ай бұрын
Is this based on the best setup you could do aka comparing the DK build, or is this every iteration of the stup overall? I started the game again as a magDK using Force Pulse as a spammable, a more PvP centric build So I'm just wandering if I managed to make a "metaslave" character lol
@Decimus8 ай бұрын
The list is based on the maximum potential off classes - off meta setups don't really factor in much on the rankings. There are some people playing ranged mDK and it's definitely viable, but it wouldn't make it to the top of the list imo (lacks the insta kill potential of a DK using Shattering Rocks/Molten Whip)
@knavenformed94368 ай бұрын
@@Decimus Thanks for the reply. I just found myself fond of the debuffing from all of the elements and in Battlegrounds it's great group pressure. Also I try to keep the character in a "Modern Dragonpriest" flavor anyways
@ThatLegoDude-q9l6 ай бұрын
yes you can block nightblade but thats why we build for penitration.
@Queenfisher4449 ай бұрын
Finally, so sick of hearing “nightblade is s-teir” from every content creator. This might be the legitimate first time I’ve seen a video from someone that actually plays the game since Zilla and Nyce stopped making videos. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou. Subbed, bell’d, watching anything you upload for the foreseeable future.
@ibraheem64449 ай бұрын
Nightblade used to be consistently ranked in the highest tier until the release of the Elsweyr patch.
@Queenfisher4449 ай бұрын
@@ibraheem6444 that was literally more than half a decade ago fam. What point are you making? I dunno if you’re agreeing with me or not?
@ibraheem64449 ай бұрын
@@Queenfisher444 totally agree 💯
@kingsebrok91149 ай бұрын
@@Queenfisher444half a decade ago, and still the best PvP patch in my opinion. Rip Elsweyr
@Queenfisher4449 ай бұрын
@@kingsebrok9114 the Blackwood year had its merits, hybridisation was the real killer. Fuck homogeneity.
@einreide44019 ай бұрын
Amazing beard my man. Very impressive!
@YoussefMoussa9969 ай бұрын
now lets see paul allen's beard
@ibraheem64449 ай бұрын
Viking be like hahaha
@paoktaison118 ай бұрын
Magicka arcanist is really better that the stamina one? Which one has better sustain?
@Decimus8 ай бұрын
They're pretty much the same honestly, but having a few more points into magicka lets you manage resources better in my opinion as it splits costs more evenly between stam/magicka (runeblades/runemend/beam becoming magicka cost) and makes sustaining easier, since having the majority of your abilities cost stamina *and* dodging, CC breaks etc is tough on the stam sustain. That said, there's a lot of setups (such as bashcanist) that kinda have to be played as a "stamcanist" due to set 2-4p providing stamina and so on. In the end, I rank them kinda equal with maybe a *slight* edge for magcanist overall.
@gunjack20647 ай бұрын
Does this apply to pvp healers? Or is the meta now just standard builds?
@Decimus7 ай бұрын
I did consider healing as well for the tier list - if it was *only* about healing (in a purely random pvp scenario) then Warden would probably top the list though.
@gunjack20647 ай бұрын
@@Decimus Warden is for sure meta. What about A or B tier pvp healers?
@Decimus7 ай бұрын
@@gunjack2064 I've seen Arcanist & Sorc healers do well so that'd probably be A tier, with NB following up at B tier & DK/Necro at C. Things change a bit in organized group, but that'd be my healer tiers for random PvP. Maybe I'll make some more in-depth video on that some day when I've played all of them (only got a NB & DK healer... and DD warden with Polar Wind that isn't a "healer" but heals for more on average than either one of them).
@RIprosayden7 ай бұрын
Good content !!!
@wrath69199 ай бұрын
Got builds for these broken Dk so would you make videos about it?
@Decimus9 ай бұрын
Website has the current mDK/stam DK builds (gonna be adding a more of a hybrid max health approach as well). Stam DK might get better with Way of Fire over Trickery this patch, next thing to test for me at some point.
@IncultaWolf9 ай бұрын
Necromancer 🤡💀😭
@Hotwire9999 ай бұрын
:(((
@Stncold2239 ай бұрын
Thought of coming back after not playing since last november after seeing the news to see that DK's STILL reign supreme utterly uncontested. What an absolute joke. Killed any desire I have to come back. ZOS is beyond incompetent.
@Bloodsaber646 ай бұрын
i knew to disreguard this list when i saw magsorc at b tier. I cant think of a more s tier class
@Decimus6 ай бұрын
You absolutely should disregard it for U41 - this video was published in January before U41 was on PTS & was meant for last patch (U40). Thanks for bringing this up though, I'll change the title to avoid any confusion.
@Gleandra5 ай бұрын
@@Decimus How would you rate Magicka Sorcerer nowadays though? Compared to U40, the main thing that changed was the heal on Conjured Ward, which helped a lot. But I still see just as many free kill Magsorcs as before.
@freqrid40149 ай бұрын
wowowow nice amazing!!!!!!! big fan!!
@HarryDavis-df1qj7 ай бұрын
No pen on the dk build though..
@Decimus7 ай бұрын
When running Corrosive you don't want to build around pen, you already get 100% pen on all direct attacks. On more leap oriented builds (I have a max health DK for that) you'll still want to stack it relatively high though.
@ibraheem64449 ай бұрын
you mean just play DK?
@Queenfisher4449 ай бұрын
Thats pretty much cyrodiil in a nutshell for at least the last 5/6 patches yes. Last time something could compete was harmony necro during necro.
@jobayerhossain95429 ай бұрын
nightblade is s++ tier. you said you r nightblade main. That explains why u put it on a tier..you don't want it to get nerf.
@Smok.Wawelski9 ай бұрын
Maybe just play NB on Ravenwatch - in an environment, that shows the whole truth about what a given class looks like. I wonder how quickly you will abandon NB for any other "S++" classes.
@xmasso2k129 ай бұрын
he's reffering to the class in general, if you get caught you're basically fucked, if you were on a dk, there's a huge chance you'll be fine
@Decimus9 ай бұрын
I don't really care what gets nerfed and what doesn't, I play every class. Nightblade is ranked as it is because there is a lot of scenarios when the survivability just isn't there and your damage is always counterable. Stam Sorc, Arcanist & DK have less of these situations overall, and in case of stam sorc & DK their damage is a lot less counterable (latter's being almost uncounterable if played properly).
@dakarbrown54749 ай бұрын
Magic sorc should be in the c class. It's not that good the damage is just impossible to find at times