ESPN Responds to "Cease and Desist" | Baylor Meets with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott | Big 12

[@bwbucs99]

Baylor asking to be saved by another Texas Governor. Except this time it's NOT a Baylor grad. Maybe have a seance and the ghost of Ann Richards will help.

[@Tijuanabill]

The entire SEC process was done through lawyers. We are supposed to believe that these lawyers gave no legal advice to their client in the process, and just exposed them to liability? That is the dumbest notion I think I ever heard.

[@Swagalious689]

Baylor is meeting with the governor on how to strategize on the financial short fall from texas and ou leaving the confrence and how Baylor can survive and prosper even with this news. Dont over think it. Baylor is working a back room deal and it has nothing to do with UT or Oklahoma.

[@blue_diamond_gem]

Bowlsby is all kinds of incompetent.

[@Summitclym]

He’s such a disaster. Enough to bring down the conference from his stupidity alone.

[@djdg131]

Maybe the Governor had a hand in this because he did say they wanted to see Texas vs Texas A&M play each other again a couple years back.

[@MrJara1018]

ESPN is actually Disney ……… good luck fighting them.

[@Night_City_Vibes]

There are going to be law suits because ESPN interference with the schools. That’s serious implications. Think about it . The SEC was against expansion. Than suddenly they were for it. ESPN has actively been playing way to close to this. Watch what happens when the facts come out

[@Night_City_Vibes]

@@jvanek8512 you do not know that. This is still a developing situation. It’s about to get ugly .

[@yellowmartian]

If I'm the Big 12 scraps, invite UC, UCF, Houston, and BYU immediately. Force UT and OU to pay up. Fire Bowlsby and hire Karl Benson, the longtime WAC and Sunbelt conference commissioner. If not him, hire away Aresco from the AAC.

[@Alohanate2004]

Exactly! The "leftover 8" are still considered power 5. Stay together, add teams and get into the CFP as a conference champion. Bowlsby should just retire.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Where is the school with the street cred to keep this a power 5 conference? The NCAA will need to declare it a power 5 conference. I hope they do. I’m really concerned about this for the good of those schools and college football.

[@RCmack]

Also invite USF(South Florida). USF will end up going wherever UCF goes. UCF and USF need each other in this game of switching leagues.

[@trueauburnchampion1322]

Everybody hates ESPN now so sue em. I would favor for the big 12.

[@Lunzatis_Palemoon]

That's not how that works. As much as everyone may hate ESPN, the Big 12 has no proof and the law favors ESPN. This is nothing more than absolute desperation by the Big 12 Commish.

[@trueauburnchampion1322]

Maybe you did notice but somewhere between the eighties when I was growing up and now people quit listening the laws and following the rules police officer speed right front of us without blue lights on and people do what they want look at what ESPN does a person I hope it gets sued and I hope they go away and that's what they deserve for this give woke in your face I'm going to dog you out villainize people that are white just because they're born White I'm sick of Berkeley that I want people like that pay or company like that

[@RCmack]

College football wouldn't be as big as it is now without ESPN. ESPN has helped make virtually every FBS game and many FCS games available on TV through their app.

[@willyschmidlkofer1753]

How do you guys not get a headache thinking about the senerios

[@northface484]

That letter from the B12 means absolutely nothing it has no teeth....

[@markschrader5921]

S

[@ice-xv1hi]

ESPN has collapsed the past few years. No doubt they will try anything and everything to stay relevant.

[@smallbutmightymma6171]

Get woke go broke

[@thebacons5943]

I mean financially, no

[@ice-xv1hi]

@@thebacons5943 true dat.

[@RCmack]

ESPN has totally changed college football during its' 42 year existence.

[@RCmack]

Baylor could end up being part of a new Greater Texas Conference, a super conference that would also include SMU, TCU, Houston, Rice, Texas El-Paso, Texas St., Memphis, Tulsa, Oklahoma St., New Mexico, New Mexico St., Air Force, Colorado St., Nevada, Nevada Las Vegas, and Grand Canyon.

[@michaeldoyle2725]

Hey I want to thank you guys for giving your honest opinion I will definitely refer to you people for information thank you you have a little fan now

[@cliftonsmith4013]

Question, will UT lose the Longhorn Network going to the SEC?

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Yes.

[@kevinjohnson3085]

I find it funny the big 12 had no problem with espn blocking Cincinnati, ucf, memphis and about 10 other schools trying to get in the big 12. Now the shoe is on the other foot and espn is trying to break up the big 12 and there is crying. This is also what happens when you let two teams run the conference. The conference name now should be the mountain 8 it is no better than the mountain west.

[@jameshoops10]

how did espn block them and now break them up?

[@kevinjohnson3085]

@@jameshoops10 in 2016 espn and fox sports did not want the big 12 to expand because they said it would water down the conference and the teams that wanted in added no value. Espn is now going to the AAC to have them get 3-5 teams to break the conference up faster. They were going to give the AAC more games on tv in the future for doing so.

[@jameshoops10]

@@kevinjohnson3085 proof?

[@kevinjohnson3085]

@@jameshoops10 it aint hard to look it up go for it.

[@jameshoops10]

@@kevinjohnson3085 are the sources credible tho?

[@btetschner]

Thank you for the video.

[@davidfloyd9134]

Texas Tech fans want the PAC12

[@grahammees]

As a tech fan and student, I am concerned about realignment, I would love tech to play the teams out west more but I’m also intrigued to see what would happen if we stay with the other 8. So I’m conflicted, lol.

[@RyanPoehls]

It's done now, 14-0 vote for Texas and OU.

[@soonertee]

You guys started out when this first happened sounding pretty reasonable and pretty middle of the road for the most part. As time has gone on your voices are sounding increasingly shrill. I get it. You're a Baylor channel. That's fine I still enjoy listening to you for the most part. Baylor got the favor of political pull to get into the Big XII to begin with. Just be happy you took advantage of it, probably more so than any other school so that you are at least still in the talk for a P4 slot.

[@barretthaines6330]

Bebe let ut have their way!! Bowsby wanted to keep ut happy. In a nutshell, both commissioners put ut over an elite conference.

[@shannonday205]

Big 12 or Angry 8 get over it. Period. Your conference had 10 years to fix your conference. You didn't. The SEC takes care of member schools. Texas and Oklahoma saw the writing on the wall back in December and did something about it.

[@cliftonsmith4013]

@J R I agree bro. That guy is talking out of his ass

[@stevethomas2435]

How does the SEC take care of Ole miss Arkansas and Vanderbilt

[@tacticalmattfoley]

@@stevethomas2435 money. They gave all schools in the SEC $43Million when COVID measures were announced. All schools. Vandy included.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

The Big12 would have been fine if Texas would have agreed to the same profit sharing agreement as the SEC and they could have come to an agreement on the Big12 network. The Longhorn network and FOXSports coverage ruined the Big12’s media coverage. FOXSports college football games are unwatchable.

[@cliftonsmith4013]

@@tacticalmattfoley I agree bro

[@cliftonsmith4013]

I believe ESPN and the power 4 want this to happen. Currently, there are only 4 playoff spots. You make the Big XII fold, its truly a power 4. Now the Pac-12 get an automatic spot along with the ACC, Big 10, & the SEC.

[@marine76a]

Important to note they were legally confident enough to put it into writing. Secondly, if they did tamper it was through intermediaries to prevent legal ramifications.

[@randomguy5284]

We will get to a point where if you’re not a great football school in your conference, you’re not worth much. Ask yourself if that is right for college in general? Schools are being left behind bc they don’t have a good football program?

[@tobiasj2455]

Bring UC and Houston to the big 12

[@RyanPoehls]

Need to go ahead and add 4 or 6 or 8 teams.

[@carsonc29]

@@RyanPoehls right..if no other power conference wants to invite anyone and the BIG12 is downgraded from power 5 to group 5, they might as well be the best and largest group 5

[@JWCFB]

Too smart for his own good? He's just another blame shifter in a world full of blame shifters and it's childish.

[@thedoo777]

Sometimes smart people cannot way certain factors against one another. Just because you're smart does not mean you make the best decision. That's why small businesses succeed and educational behemoths don't always make good use of their money or resources

[@chrisrecord5625]

So exactly what is the actionable request from Baylor to Gov. Abbott? Likely, it would require legislative concurrence and that's not going to happen soon.

[@ethanhill9460]

Great put down of UT football fans.

[@FirstLast-rd6hw]

Big 12 has the worst commissioner in the NCAA. He hasn’t done a single thing to help this conference in his 9 years. He is the only person to blame for this collapse. Best thing about this is Bob losing his job.

[@kansaskristi]

I’d say tied with the little 10.

[@novicetrainer3985]

Let’s make a new Southwest conference, Houston, SMU, Rice back with Baylor/TT/TCU and figure out who else is valuable to join

[@davidfloyd9134]

Tech wants the PAC12

[@sammyvillena9777]

Too regional, no TV appeal. That was one of the downfalls of the SWC.

[@timmeyer9191]

In ESPN letter to Bob, they didn't say ALL of Bob's accusations are without merit. In fact, at the start, they mention apart from a vague conversation with an unnamed conference. I get the feeling that this "apart from" line is a cover your butt kind of line and there could be some evidence that ESPN did have a conversation with a conference about inviting some big 12 schools. If they didn't add this "apart from" line and denied everything, their letter could actually be used as evidence of deception. Of course this is all ALLEGEDLY until actual evidence is presented.

[@johnpierson4696]

The only hope for WVU is to go to the ACC with ND and be in a pod system: a.) PITT, VT, Virginia, WVU b.) ND, Clemson, BC, Syracuse c.) Miami, GT, FSU, Duke d.) UNC, NC State, Wake, Louisville.

[@RCmack]

The ACC already turned down West Virginia once. WVU's academics don't fit ACC standards.

[@thebacons5943]

Texas shouldn’t be going to the SEC, it’s bad for football… but the Texas government has no business undermining a public university for the benefit of a private religious institution

[@timmeyer9191]

Normally I would agree with you, but there's more at stake here than realized. The annual athletic partnership with UT elevates the other partners' (in this case Baylor, TCU, and Tech) athletic teams. This elevation increases their monetary value and revenue as power five schools get. Without that they probably lose 2/3 of their revenue. Who cares, right? Well that revenue pays people's livelihoods like with facility construction/maintenance workers. It also pays for many of the non revenue generating sports like wrestling and gymnastics and their athletic scholarships. Then, there is the indirect revenue the communities make with home football games: hotels, restaurants, bars, and other areas. Yes, UT gets more revenue in the SEC but that doesn't go to Waco, Fort Worth, and Lubbock communities. It doesn't provide athletic and academic scholarships for those other universities. That power 5 status matters to many people in those communities. Jobs and scholarships will be lost. I don't blame the remaining 8 schools one bit to fight for every dime they can get, and they absolutely have the right to feel bitter about the departure. They lose more than money.

[@jasonprestonATX2140]

Yeah right you are pissed about losing your gravy train it’s cool we all know.

[@jasonprestonATX2140]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Oh so now bob is smart y’all were talking a bunch of shit the other day about him funny.

[@ericblomquist1975]

I don’t like ESPN at all!!! But blaming them on this breakup is ridiculous. Sounds like a lot of panic. Own your own house and you wound have to worry about people leaving out the front door.

[@brian2440]

I mean if what the commissioner is saying is true it’s literally market manipulation otherwise known as committing a federal crime.....

[@zeljr]

Hey Baylor….. It’s like the song goes..” I can’t make you live me.. if you don’t “ Stop begging to be loved!! It makes you look DESPERATE!!

[@JohnnyBoyGaming1]

The BIg 12 has too many low brands teams. So it makes ESPN TV ads less attractive.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Think about this: the movement of these two teams just shut out Baylor, TCU, Kansas, OK St, K St, Iowa St, etc from the New Years Six and any chance at a playoff berth. IMHO, this isn’t good for many, many college athletes and college football as a whole.

[@slibertas1996]

Fight back and force them to stay. You are in the right

[@Svalleyown]

Hope they can stick together and get the money from Texas and OU and ESPN.

[@chriscarpenter5139]

Texas and ou should have gone pac 12 and took the pokes and cyclones and created another good conference

[@chriscarpenter5139]

True , but not every state in that conference are leftist. Arizona, Idaho, and Utah are heavy conservative states. You might even be surprised to know that New Mexico is more conservative than left, but because Albuquerque and Santa fe and Taos are the only cities that are heavy left which is most of the population of the state. So mainly the crazy ass motherfuckers in Oregon, Washington, California will be the ones that we will have fun destroying every year lol

[@chrisrecord5625]

ESPN to Baylor, so sue me. Someday you will be asking for favors.

[@brian2440]

Favors from a media conglomerate facing bankruptcy?

[@sbcbaits994]

Baylor is just sad faced because they know that when the big12 dissolves, they’ll be left out because of how rapey their school’s history is.

[@bwbucs99]

Baylor's motto: Rape ah no big deal but don't you dare dance!

[@Matt-hl5vm]

Who else? Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC….

[@danielmoorefield5371]

ESPN Needs to be STOPPED

[@stephenyoung2742]

Lobby to have NCAA change out of state recruiting rules to where it is the same has in state recruiting! Go back to taking partial qualifiers! Extend college baseball to summer to generate revenue! Go to 5 years of eligibility do away with redshirting increase scholarships to 90 or 100! Would then see fewer higher quality players willing to sit on bench at bigger name schools. Form up a organization of schools not in super 4 conferences who could get more tv revenue and either not play unless everyone in top division gets same tv share of money the top 4 conferences let them beat themselves up! Increase coaching staff size so you can develop players! Maybe put in a nearby JUCO to stock and develop players!

[@blackanimelover18]

Lol, stop it. People are still gonna go to Alabama and Clemson, especially with the new NIL rules because now just being apart of those teams almost guarantees some big checks coming your way.

[@craigkelm180]

Jimmy Carter was a Complete joke as a President!! JEESH!! TRUMP2021!!

[@yfna1]

Leave it to the Trump supporters to not know the years in which presidential elections are held.

[@RCmack]

*JOE MANCHIN/TIM RYAN 2024* Mitch McConnell likes Manchin a helluva lot better than he does Trump and Trump Jr. Manchin is adored by conservatives in West Virginia and Kentucky, even though he's a Democrat. Having Ryan on this ticket will draw the working man's vote.

[@cadengrace5466]

So much talk about something that is really straight forward. The exit by Texas and Oklahoma is in the domain of the lawyers now. They will play one last year and be gone no matter what the monetary value ends up being. I expect it to be closer to the 80 million figure for each since there is no reason for the Big-12 to let them go without a high cost. We are still in the shocked stage. That is coming to an end and for some, like me, not shock at all. I always expect something dumb to happen in college sports. The remaining Big-12 members cannot afford to leave and the only way they can get out without paying is if 7 of the ten all leave at the same time. Not happening. We are all staying put. Once they all realize that the better and we can all get down to business. Texas mucked up expansion over the years just as Miami did in the Old Big East and then left. That interference is gone now. The Big-12 needs to expand immediately. But, doing so involves conferences and media rights and usually some for of a buyout, with one exception: BYU. The Big-12 needs to invite BYU into the conference immediately and work out the details as they come up. BYU needs this because without a conference they are going to be left out of the national picture. Notre Dame has a seat at that table, BYU does not. The Big-12 then needs to confer with the AAC Commissioner and ask to speak with Cincinnati, Houston and Memphis right away. All of this needs to be completely in the open so that it does not appear to be a raid but rather an offer. If all goes well and there is no reason why it should not, the Big-12 invites all 4 of these new institutions to being play in the Big-12 July 1 2022. The Big-12 simultaneously, erects a CCG format for the cash and exposure. Hopefully, calmer heads and threats of opening the back door conversations to the public eye will keep ESPN semi-honest and decent media package will be retained. If not, there are alternatives. All of the Big-12 members have extensive tier 3 rights that bring in millions. It will not match what we got before but it will not be shabby and might still approach what the ACC brings in. Then long term, the future is obviously settling at 16, so we begin to explore the Big-16 and consider who 13 through 16 might be. Many assume the super conference is coming, meaning 16+, I do not think so. This puts the Big-12 at a cross roads, does it wait for a potential Pac-12 implosion brought on by the Big Ten or does it grab the next best 4, even if they have issues with those 4? Time will tell what is going to happen. Arizona and Arizona State constantly receive some chatter. How much of it is warranted I do not know. If they cam in, would Colorado and Utah follow suit? It would be a huge gain if that happened, but the more likely scenario is the Big-12 expands to the Big-16 by adding members like UCF, USF, SMU and Boise State. I would be fine with that as well.

[@vivahernando1]

Sidenote ….. monopolies are part of capitalism. They actually are the inevitable conclusion of efficient capitalism.

[@carsonc29]

monopolies are never good for society as a whole...a 16 team SEC with 3/4 of the college FB blue bloods will be horrible for college FB as a whole

[@vivahernando1]

@@carsonc29 I agree there are negative aspects of capitalism. This is where if college football was a society a government would come in and block OU and UT from joining the SEC for the benefit of the entire sport of college football but there isn't so hello SEC

[@carsonc29]

@@vivahernando1 it should be blocked..this is bad for college sports period

[@lordrayden3045]

The governor doesn’t have shit to do He should be worried about the third world power gird in the state….. but he doesn’t seem too concerned

[@Lunzatis_Palemoon]

Wow. You really showed your ignorance with your statement. The "third world power gird" as you call it only had an issue during an Ice Storm that happens only once every THIRTY Years at most. Now, if we're going to talk about third world then let's talk about your education and intelligence or lack thereof.

[@fnkdtnk]

@@Lunzatis_Palemoon every 30 years? Try never before in recorded history. I have seen single digit temps here and there during the dead of night, never have I experienced sustained single digit temps dipping into negative temps, nor have my parents, or my wife’s grandmothers.

[@tacitus7408]

Hope you didn’t injure yourself patting yourself on the back

[@thebacons5943]

California has more power 5s but good point

[@yoshimcclendon6093]

They suck

[@brian2440]

UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford and who else?

[@ORANGEBLOODS21]

NOT IN BOB BOWSLBY TO STUNT.... WHAT THE HELL YOU THINK HES BEEN DOING ALL THESE YEARS !!!!!!! LOOK AROUND YOU BAYLOR, GET OUT WHILE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GO SOMEWHERE . WOULDNT YOU RATHER PLAY USC OR CLEMSON, OR OHIO STATE? DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STAY AND ADD HOUSTON? SMU? CMON STOP KIDDING YOURSELF. ITS OVER

[@carsonc29]

every BIG12 school would rather be in another power conference...from OSU,KU all the way down to TCU and KSU..but they cant force the other power 4 conferences to add teams..especially not now...

[@ORANGEBLOODS21]

@@carsonc29 they won't have to force them... those other conferences are foaming at the mouth to get Isu, Osu.... etc in their conference. They know they have to act quickly also

[@carsonc29]

@@ORANGEBLOODS21 i mean, as a KU fan I do hope you are right..the BIG would be a great landing spot for them...

[@slibertas1996]

Indiana has 3 Power 5 teams

[@brian2440]

At this point what even is a P5 school, because it’s becoming very clear that this distinction has NOTHING to do with sports in any capacity but rather what is your media potential.

[@Crankinstien]

Boomer!

[@greg4ou]

SOONER!

[@mostlypeacefulprotestor1310]

Going to sue espn huh...good luck on trying to leverage networks for your next tv contract. If you survive of course...

[@kujhawks35]

CALIFORNIA HAS MORE THAN TEXAS.

[@brian2440]

Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, A&M, Texas UCLA, USC, Cal, Stanford

[@bobglasgow3508]

Bowlsby is a buffoon. He over looked his cash cows for years. Color ole Bob gone! The Hatefull Eight remain as of today.

[@danielmoorefield5371]

misoouri and texas a&m would never vote them in

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Supposedly it was a 12-0 vote.

[@Blackkrimson89]

It is capitalism why does he keep saying cronyalism as if that's a thing. 🤔

[@WBougie]

IMO ESPN`s coverage of the NFL is terrible. I pray for the day that ABC takes back Monday Night Football although i know that`ll never happen. Disney sucks, they have flooded the media with too much Marvel crap to the point that it`s unwatchable. Now they r messing up college football, what a surprise!

[@RCmack]

ABC owns 80% of ESPN.

[@WBougie]

@@RCmack That`s funny the broadcast said ESPN was 100% owned By Disney....

[@ramiroreyes5390]

No useful takes.