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[@melissamallery-wells7806]

OU fan here. I am enjoying the conversation. From my perspective (and that of many Sooners fans), I think it would be better to have a conference like the Big 12 in the middle of the country, but once Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Colorado left it was just a matter of time until the conference split up. There just are not enough TV sets or premier programs in this part of the country to make a top level conference work without those teams. There are no big teams that could be poached, and adding non-power 5 schools wasn’t going to stabilize things. It’s too bad. I got the impression over the years that OU tried to make things work, but when the tv partners indicated an unwillingness to consider renegotiating contracts early, supposedly did not like any of the possible expansion options, gave the conference bad tv slots for premiere games, etc., the writing was on the wall. Hopefully some of the conference teams find okay landing spots.

[@debbieelder5140]

When Texas said jump YALL said how high.

[@saraho8540]

@@debbieelder5140 no we said how much 😉 jk. But really I think Big 12 leadership is the real reason for the move. OU can't do much more than we've already done in the Big 12. Going to struggle to win a national championship without better competition and not enough money to make it worth it. Thank you TX for the initial dominoes falling though. Pretty suckie that they are going to benefit from that though but makes sense OU wouldn't let the rivalry game go away.. SEC was not where I wanted us to go, but I didn't think OU could afford to stay at the Big 12 anymore.

[@raggles123]

I think 0u was as culpable in the BigXII issues, but it is easier to blame Texas. Glad we are staying together, and I cannot wait for 0u to play the aggy. Maybe you can beat them this time after they smoked you in 2012.

[@saraho8540]

@@raggles123 it's been funny to me as an ou fan with all this to learn that apparently we hate TX the least of everyone. You're right though Ou is definitely not getting the brunt of the backlash on this though. Except from OSU. They're pretty pissed at us right now.

[@icemanx5085]

When Colorado and Nebraska left I said they should get Boise and Houston.. Had the done that Texas may not have their coach and we probably not in this place.. if they can keep West Virgina and Iowa St they should try to pick up Houston Boise BYU and probably UCF... They fumbled this early trying to stand back

[@jacobk4412]

Texas Tech alum here... you are VERY correct. You don't go to Lubbock unless you have to. Still would fit in well in PAC-12, though not because of Lubbock. More in spite of Lubbock. The campus is just as beautiful as any of the dozens I have toured visiting friends and such and The Jones gets packed and is ELECTRIC. The enrollment has been growing year after year for the last decade or so, very heavily, and we have alum and fans spread out all over the nation. PAC-12 should be thrilled to have the Red Raiders, but Tech should proceed with caution. Might do better to keep the BIGXII together and try to be a top dog there, now that the annoying big brother is leaving... I'm pretty sure they were adopted. TAMU is the brother we would love to hate, Texas is the brother we don't want at all. GOOD RIDDANCE! I hope they have fun getting STOMPED in the SEC

[@raggles123]

Agreed, we do need to fill in Ws somewhere else as the Prairie Aggies lost to the Horns +75% of the time. Good point.

[@jacobk4412]

@@tmjel1 definitely more Red Raiders come from DFW than anywhere else, but the numbers coming from the Houston area, as well as San Antonio/Austin(to a lesser extent), have been growing fast. If we don't go to the PAC-12, we need to welcome UH to the revamped Big XII. Adding UH to the mix doesn't dilute the Texas market, it would be a positive for Tech and I would be very happy to see Houston move up to a power 5. I think that could be a very mutually beneficial partnership. Opening game this season will be a good preview of what could be.

[@crockettwv]

What about boise st. and Cincinnati to be added to the big12

[@jmjbda504truth3]

The big 12 needs to add 4 or all 8 Houston, Louisiana, Memphis, Georgia State, Cincinnati, App State, Coastal, UCF

[@CoachShannonBoy]

If all these conferences are going to consolidate teams then the they just need to become their own entity. Separate the "big" schools from the smaller ones. Divide the NCAA into tiers and and put the teams in the "tiers" into geographical divisions. Very sure there would be some big money television contracts to watch some of the games from these groupings of people. Could separate the super divisions into sub divisions for championship games. Scheduling could rotate by years and keep some games as rivalry games every year. Have "Super Tiers" with "Super Divisions" with Tier 1 teams. And with the onset of the Playoff System, they need to put a playoff system into each separate Tier so that you have a national champion from each tier. This gives the teams that aren't in the Tier 1 Super Divisions a chance to win a national championship themselves in their own division. If you have some teams from the FCS that want to join the Tier 2 then they have to meet certain criteria. If not then FCS becomes NCAA Tier 3. NCAA Tier 1 North Tier 1 Super Division Michigan Michigan State Army Syracuse Boston College Purdue Notre Dame Indiana Ohio State Pittsburgh Penn State Rutgers Maryland Louisville Kentucky West Virginia South Tier 1 Super Division Miami Florida Florida State Alabama Auburn Georgia Georgia Tech Clemson South Carolina Vanderbilt Tennessee Virginia Virginia Tech North Carolina North Carolina State Duke Wake Forest Midwest Tier 1 Super Division Baylor Texas A&M Texas Christian Texas Texas Tech Oklahoma Oklahoma State Missouri Arkansas Iowa Iowa State Wisconsin Northwestern Illinois Mississippi Mississippi State LSU West Tier 1 Super Division Washington Washington State Oregon Oregon State Stanford Cal USC UCLA BYU Utah Arizona Arizona State Colorado Minnesota Nebraska Kansas Kansas State --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NCAA Tier 2 North Tier 2 Division Western Michigan Central Michigan Eastern Michigan N. Illinois Ball State Bowling Green Toledo Buffalo Miami (OH) Kent State Akron Ohio U. Cincinnati UMass Temple South Tier 2 Division Marshall Navy East Carolina Coastal Carolina Central Florida Florida International Appalachian State UNC Charlotte Georgia State Georgia Southern South Florida Western Kentucky Middle Tennessee State Liberty Florida Atlantic Midwest Tier 2 Division Memphis Southern Mississippi Tulane UAB Troy Louisiana Monroe Louisiana Louisiana Tech Arkansas State Tulsa Rice Houston SMU North Texas West Tier 2 Division Texas State UT San Antonio Texas El Paso New Mexico Colorado State Air Force Wyoming Boise State Utah State Nevada Nevada Las Vegas San Diego State Fresno State San Jose State

[@Aardvark-1801]

Kansas, Missouri, Colorado, and Virginia to the Big Ten in two divisions, East and West. Play nine division games and three inter-divisional games as a warm up replacing non-conference games. Then, have 1-10 East play 1-10 West on the "championship" Saturday the week after the regular season ends. Big Ten champion play the Pac-12 (or Pac-whatever) champion in an actual Rose Bowl. That is a good COLLEGE football year.

[@stephencjacks]

Viginia's media rights are owned by the ACC until 2035 so they aren't going anywhere. The B1G doesn't want Kansas or Missouri. Colorado has a shot because the B1G is going to take 4 Pac12 schools but it isn't a good shot. The B1G wants USC, UCLA, Washington & Oregon.

[@newyorkgiants1fan-133]

@@stephencjacks is Missouri leaves sec who goes to sec

[@stephencjacks]

@@newyorkgiants1fan-133 Missouri isn't leaving the SEC. To much money to be made. Oklahoma and Texas owe the Big12 between 70 and 80 million a piece to buy out. Neither 1 of them batted an eye. SEC media contract is a license to print money

[@newyorkgiants1fan-133]

@@stephencjacks I miss read it

[@tarheel7406]

Like visiting these old realignment vids when they pop up. If UVA is in play, why would anyone think the B1G would pass on UNC in favor of KU, MO or CO?

[@tomturnipseede6462]

Combination of 16 best teams from Big 12 and AAC, stay as Big 12 to get payments from UT & OK, then change name to Mid America Conference, be known as the BIG MAC (McDonald's could be corporate sponsor) Gotta have a sense of humor during these times.

[@argletherebel6266]

Great show I found y’all last week I’m an ole miss fan and Cowboys.

[@TheYates27]

Nowhere, they’ll just get more money and add 4 teams

[@carverraymond4161]

I hope Okst goes to the BIG 10

[@WBookout10]

They’re not an AAU member and bring in less athletic revenue than Kansas and Iowa State. They probably have a better shot of getting in the PAC with Tech.

[@raggles123]

I do not think Okie Light has a shot with ISU and Kansas in front of them. Just look at the financial income of the balance of the Big XII.

[@kennybir7432]

@@WBookout10 AAU status will probably be overlooked. OSU has been 3rd in TV ratings for the last 10-15 years. Newer facilities, better sports overall. Kansas wouldn't go because they're awful at football and that's the big draw, moreover Basketball (which OSU is on the upswing). ISU doesn't go because they add zero markets, at least OSU can add OKC/Tulsa. Being a Land Grant and Research Institute, the ability to raise that profile being a member of the B1G will push there profile MUCH higher, MUCH faster. OSU is probably the next prettiest past uo/ut.

[@stephencjacks]

If the B1G expands it will be schools from the Pac 12. They aren't taking any of the Big 12 schools.

[@ianburns2436]

A&M needs to have a conversation with Arkansas and Missouri....talk about Texas past actions towards the 3 schools and get them on board with rejecting this.....They have to get Arkansas and Missouri on board before going to Vanderbilt and pitch to them they would be minimized more and in the future may even be kicked out the conference.....That is the play that might keep OU and Texas out the conference.

[@raggles123]

WAH wah, ppppooooorrrrrr aggy.

[@aleanufopilotftlcertified5663]

10+ years??? Try 27 years of BIG12 Conference. Quit belittling the significance of the BIG12. The 8 should add the teams that auditioned @5 years ago. OUUT influence drove their rejection. Add 8 universities and accept a lesser cut on the TV contract. The $150+ million from the OUUT desertion will go nicely towards rejuvenating the new BIG16.

[@rayderusa3812]

If the Big Ten denied Oklahoma due to the Aau prerequisite then there is no way in HELL They'll do it for little brother OKST

[@saraho8540]

I hope OSU finds a good new home, but your 100% right. Big ten was where I wanted OU to go to. I can't chant SEC it's going to hurt my soul.

[@MrDayJobFreedom]

nil was the dagger that killed college football!

[@nzonesportssocal2458]

Turning into the NFL.

[@SoonerTruth]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ! TEXAS 80 MILLION OU 80 MILLION 160 MILLION DIVIDE X 6 LIL PIGLETTS THATS 20 MILLION EACH ! OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS IT 5 MILLION PER YEAR ! AND THEY LEAVE .. THE EXISTING CONTRACT IS OVER ! ALL 6 TEAMS WERE SCHEDULED TO MAKE 37 MILLION EACH FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS THATS 148 MILLION ... IM NO ALBERT EINSTEIN BUT IM PRETTY SURE ALL OF YOU ARE $141 MILLION IN THE HOLE !

[@blackwind6317]

Big 12 will not be a power 5. It will be seen as the big east. Your flag ship school can't be iowa st or tcu.

[@willyoushutupman4747]

It'll be Kansas, the 5 time national champions.

[@ianburns2436]

@@willyoushutupman4747 Kansas football program is a joke....basketball seems to be taking a backseat.....the best move for Kansas, Baylor, and West Virginia is to call the ACC.....ACC takes basketball powerhouses that have decent football programs. Kansas would be a basketball tradition play.

[@kevinmays5308]

WVU kept big east a power conference by itself

[@ianburns2436]

@@kevinmays5308 Big East was never a football power conference. It was a basketball power conference. However, the school that really carried the Big East in football was Miami. Especially those years just before moving to the ACC with Larry Coker as head coach, the Hurricanes were getting national championships. WVU been good but they never, EVER, won a national title in football. Miami and to a lesser extent Boston College and that's why those schools got poached. Pittsburgh and Syracuse came later, and now you can't play D1 football and be in the Big East. Uconn tried, went to the AAC and was the worst football program in the nation much like Kansas but even Kansas is better than these fools. Basketball is king at Uconn and the basketball program began to suffer not being in the Big East or ACC so they came back to the Big East and dropped down to FCS I think in football.

[@debbieelder5140]

Randy Peterson was clueless and out of touch with reality.

[@milanphillips7492]

Cfb is dead in 20 years it will be one brand SEC said days we live in don't belive me look at pro wrestling Vince Mcmahon started buying the territories until it was just two major companies then he finally bought them out and now you have one major brand WWE and pro wrestling has been on a decline

[@nathanrogers5277]

Big 10 doesn’t need expansion! Big 10 has storied historic programs with fans Alll OVER the country!

[@willyoushutupman4747]

Rutgers though... Why not kick them out with maryland for KU and ISU

[@boognlady]

Lol

[@r.farciert]

If the Big 10 does not expand it will eventually die, you need recruits and kids will all want to go to the SEC! LOOK ahead and you'll see Big 10 needs to expand asap.

[@nathanrogers5277]

R. Farciert People all over the US will always watch BIG 10 football ! The SEC is a regional Conference! Outside the South nobody cares!

[@r.farciert]

@@nathanrogers5277 I don’t disagree people watch the Big 10 I’m trying to tell you recruits will start heading in droves to the SEC and Big 10 will die…. recruits are your lifeline you can’t have football teams without them again Big Ten needs to be proactive to continue to get TOP recruits!!!!

[@SoonerTruth]

The reason those schools survived greyboy ! IS LEAVING NOW !! BAYLOR TREATED RICE HOUSTON SMU THE SAME WAY !!