JJ Redick calls out Mad Dog Russo in a fiery First Take debate 🍿

[@practicalworkingpower6829]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 😂😂😂😂 JJ is a beast

[@Centure120]

😂😂😂😂

[@sflora951]

came here for this comment. Beat me to it.

[@jaelinbrown3510]

JJ spittin tho😹😹

[@okey7118]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rohangupte3545]

Finally someone said Mad Dog really says teams in 60s who played against Janitors would beat today’s NBA teams

[@ProfHoff]

JJ always owns the debate stage. Nothing is manufactured or fake. So refreshing to see. Best addition to it in years.

[@jasonj5292]

The entire show is scripted

[@ncb9354]

@@jasonj5292 there’s no way kendrick Perkins would let the scriptwriters embarrass him as bad as he does

[@Amor1990]

@@jasonj5292 Topics are, but not what they say specifically.

[@lordbeerus6182]

Riddick is cool but own every debate is a bit of stretch

[@18_Mikejr]

@@lordbeerus6182 totally agree

[@jackcall3815]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand" lmfao im crying

[@SmashKing17]

BoB cousey could easy play this era . Just beacuse your in the beginning of something doesn't mean your not the best. You guys telling me Jerry west wouldn't be knocking 3's in this NBA he was shooting from half court before the 3 point line

[@juice4617]

@@SmashKing17 never not dribbling wit one hand looking down😂

[@kcjones713]

@@SmashKing17 bob not jerry tho bro🤷🏾‍♂️

[@blackmist1981]

@@SmashKing17 maybe Jerry, but not Cousy

[@Michael-vn2jj]

@@SmashKing17 Cousy would need to improve his skill set though, not saying he can't but Cousy skill set that we have on camera, is CLEARLY not good enough to play in current era. CP3 has a far superior skillset to anybody who played in Cousy's day. Comparing based off peers is just dumb. Need to compare off skillset. Magic and Larry for instance are CLEARLY skilled enough to be dominate in modern era. Same with MJ, Oscar, Kareem, Gervin, Dr J, McAdoo --- Those guys had the skillset where its beyond obvious it would be a seamless transition in any era. Guys like Cousy and Sam Jones and Tommy H and other HOF players from the 50s and 60s, did not have a skillset that translates. That'd be like comparing a Web Programmer from 1992 to a Web Programmer from 2022. The 1992 guy was good for the time but would need massive evolution to be up to speed with current guys. Cousy was good at 60s basketball. CP3 is just good at basketball. Jerry West was just good at basketball, he had immense skill. Cousy was not skilled lol

[@seanm7575]

“Has Paul ever been first team All-NBA?” -Yes. Four times, and second team five times.

[@beno6496]

Dude even carried New Orleans to RELEVANCY

[@MIMadDogsHC]

@@beno6496 And then underachieved in LA with another star.

[@beno6496]

@@MIMadDogsHC how’s he underachieving when the team just couldn’t stay healthy together and his playoff stats have always been top tier old head

[@MIMadDogsHC]

@@beno6496 There was time when the big 3 in LA were together for the playoffs, it wasn't just him loan wolfing out there. I'm not even putting the Houston underachieving on him, I'm not even putting his wilting in the finals on him last year. But fair or not, just like TMac gets criticized for lack of postseason success, CP3 does as well for not being able to make it out of the second round with a pretty good squad.

[@beno6496]

@@MIMadDogsHC please tell me that time

[@pabl0sauced0]

"I was on the team" JJ wins almost every debate with a cold line🤣

[@carlosaterorey]

Facts

[@ShaunYan]

Not just on the team but was a starter

[@Damari90]

@@ShaunYan 🗣

[@hexagonoctogon3140]

Avg 12 points🤦🏾‍♂️

[@dannynhl9441]

@@hexagonoctogon3140 12 more points then I ever would. Not everyone is destined to score 30ppg. Robert Horry got 7 rings for being big shot bob and being clutch when he shot it. Don't mean Horry going to hall of fame but he was part of team for 7 rings and some of his last second shots were the reason. Sucks you and many online always look to troll or be negative about a situation instead of just being a man and being supportive or positive around situations for yourself or others. That's the sad part about society long before social media was a thing. People just jealous and hate for no explanation.

[@Nick-sr4fe]

“I was on the team” Debate ends right there

[@KC-uc9zj]

He was on a lot of teams. He probably doesn't even unpack after every trade. Lol!

[@ItsYaBoi888]

Haha true

[@elrifle24]

No. It really doesn’t lol. If anything it shows your inability to debate the topic objectively

[@Nick-sr4fe]

@@elrifle24 yeah it does if you don’t see that then you are as delusional as Mad dog

[@elzrobinson3307]

@@KC-uc9zj he mainly changed teams through free agency....

[@023scarter]

“Well he was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this man really mentioned BOB COUSY ?! 😭😭😭

[@Notcleverenough]

Not only that, but tried to say COUSY > CP3 😆😆😆😆

[@023scarter]

@@Notcleverenough this is true trolling if I’ve ever seen it..JJ should’ve just stopped talking after that

[@kynston]

Amazing!

[@CTFinest]

Wow 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CTFinest]

These NBA players be in they're feelings when it comes to they're friends.

[@Actlikemjsmith]

Thank you JJ, they kill me with this prehistoric Bob Cousy talk 😂

[@Notcleverenough]

JJ wasnt having any of this nonsense today 😆 not on a Holy day

[@JackOBee29]

He was being guarded by plumbers and firefighters 🤣🤣

[@lakernation26]

Bob Cousy gettin cooked by dudes at the park. He had no left hand 💀

[@lesterwhite4631]

I hear u but in the year 5032 no one is gonna hear about Michael Jordan so to each its on

[@BlackedOutDreams]

@@JackOBee29 dont disrespect

[@kodi258]

I need a weekly debate with these two

[@jp1672]

The face SAS was giving off this entire clip was killing me 🤣🤣🤣

[@ksantosh100]

He was just glad he wasn’t on the receiving end!

[@TattletaleStrangler_]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand” lmaoooo THANK YOU JJ 🤣🤣

[@okey7118]

😂😂😂

[@michaelbailey702]

Yet was still more impactful in the NBA than a man who could dribble with his left hand, despite you ironically clowning him

[@blackmist1981]

@@michaelbailey702 yea cuz he was playing against other guys who were barely athletes

[@globalevents0]

@@michaelbailey702 Chris Paul would beat him 21-0

[@fastballfilms4214]

@@michaelbailey702 jj would destroy bob in a 1v1 stop it

[@Nappylox71]

That last comment from JJ had me dying 😂

[@derekkeane5152]

hahahhahahahahahahahah

[@johnlebonte3176]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@JoeSmithGOAT]

JJ had no actual rebuttal against Cousy making it over WEST & the BIG O 😴

[@sarjoty]

Me too

[@SimplyOneSound]

lmao! me too

[@marcusjones4761]

I love the rotating cast they bring in vs. SA but I would also love to see JJ on the show more consistently. He really challenges the old heads during the debates.

[@WBaltimore]

I think he put his podcast first, then these small gigs after. Nevertheless, I agree.

[@trainerrob1622]

Can`t challenge anyone on eras that`s why these debates always end up being two people yelling their opinions at one another. If one person has made up their mind that x era was the best then there`s nothing anyone can say to change that. This conversation here. Bob Cousy changed the game... Curly Neal was just as popular as Cousy at that time and he played with the Globetrotters... Today`s fan and apparently broadcasters don`t realize how big the Globetrotter at that time. They sold out arenas all over the world and Curly was the show. In terms of NBA players it wasn`t until the 70`s when guys like Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Tiny Archibald, etc really started bringing in what today`s fan would recognize as NBA footwork and ball handling. Mad Dog is wrong here on many fronts but so is JJ. He said the 80`s which is a few years off. Around the time of the merger is when you can pin point the start of modern NBA basketball and basketball players.

[@NintyPrime]

He should be on for any and all nba debates. Period.

[@holden6104]

Stephen A doesn't want to be challenged. That's why this show sucks now.

[@Michael-vn2jj]

@@holden6104 This is why Russo is on the show. He says Skip Bayless caliber takes that Stephen A can go on raging rants about, they just trying to recreate the old days. With Max it was way too much logic and takes with reason behind them. Stephen A wants this "Cousy is better than CP3 and Curry" kind of takes that anybody with half a brain knows is completely ridiculous. Cousy changed game due to era he played in, put Cp# or Curry in his era and they still change the game. Put cousy in todays era and he cant make a G League roster.

[@LoganAJoy]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand.” -JJ Redick 😂😂

[@seshadhri_s]

It is true though. He wasnt joking.

[@underratedszn6549]

@@seshadhri_s no it isn’t he actually was right handed and learned to shoot and dribble with his left

[@KjapPascua]

If you put cp3 on that era. Maybe he won’t be able as well since he got nobody to study.

[@gills77]

Why am I dyinnnnggg at this statement 🤣🤣🤣 and it's so true watch the videossss

[@MrE_]

@@underratedszn6549 I could probably dribble better with my foot than cousey could dribble with his good hand

[@PeterParkedHer]

JJ started with “I was on the team…” ended it before it started 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@2dmartin]

The fact that Mad Dog had to ask if CP3 was ever 1st team All-NBA tells me everything I need to know about his NBA knowledge. He’s arguing about topics that he has limited information about, which is a microcosm of the biggest problem of NBA media. (And yes CP3 made 1st team All NBA, 4 times actually)

[@ThirdThinker]

💯

[@damianwayne6816]

Excellent point. I guess its our fault (collectively as viewers) because the networks probably believe "all we want" is drama/entertainment/yelling, and not debate with substance and quality. And I guess their ratings data supports that. So a ton of these opiners can get away without watching stuff in detail.

[@HollandMariahGrossman]

OMG enough of Russo... and ESPN needs more JJ.

[@BlaiseLabs]

Honestly I have to say that I’m impressed by how ESPN is able to adapt makes me wonder what their process is. I feel like I’m being A/B tested but what’s crazy is to actually see this work out. With that said a gross fact error like this completely breaks the immersion.

[@NoSpinster0909]

And second team 5 times

[@brooksmd]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” lmao

[@michaelspencer9815]

I screamed lol 😂

[@antibrotha]

That was disrespectful and INCORRECT

[@terronwilson647]

Checkmate 🤣🤣

[@jaleelgoines9949]

@@antibrotha if you dropped any top ten players in todays game in that era they would be considered top ten players of all time

[@jaleelgoines9949]

@@antibrotha put jimmy butler in that era and he’s considered an all time great

[@StephIsColdG]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 JJ funny asf

[@alainlamour5868]

Under 40% from THE FIELD BRUH???? JJ lookin at him like “why is he talking to me?” 😂

[@ohjee5725]

WE NEED TO GET COLDER

[@JarodJoseph]

aSffssdftf

[@beno6496]

@Raymond Sims I mean if I’m facing plumbers with a dominant big like Bill I think I’d have as many rings just playing left bench alone 💀

[@PrimeAquatics94]

Stay cold

[@TheWillibob123]

“He’s not bob cousy” Who says that!!?? 😂😂

[@brandonmaryland]

JJ’s last take was a perfect way to end the video he really said fireman and Plumber’s 🚒🛠😂😂😂

[@Wedigele1]

Is the B silent or invisible!!! 🤨 either way I love it

[@brandonmaryland]

@@Wedigele1 auto correct 😂

[@FadeHook23]

@@Wedigele1 the b in plumbers is silent

[@sakimtornado]

i knew it. this was all the way up to the 90s. thats why mj dominated so much.

[@tommysoneill]

My man said he was being guarded by “plumbers and firemen” hahahaha JJ is hands down the best addition to ESPN in years!

[@lane1776]

Those plumbers and firemen could prob give modern players a run for their money in toughness

[@shawnrutherford8523]

Jj is a horrible addition. He is so f*cking stupid

[@jaeyoung4233]

@@lane1776 what about in skill?

[@endangeredspecies8441]

@@jaeyoung4233 skill doesn’t mean much when your getting locked down. Just ask KD and Kyrie about that.

[@jaeyoung4233]

@@endangeredspecies8441 Boston’s defensively-skilled players won them that series lol

[@Vondad2004]

“Cousey had 29 assist in a game” “Yeah he was being guarded by firemen and plumbers” 😂😂

[@djstubbs]

Dying at that line!!! Lmao

[@kb4231]

That's stupid 13 year twitter stuff. JJ's better than that.

[@HR-ms6ed]

@@kb4231 it’s the truth

[@Notcleverenough]

@@kb4231 its true though, the 40s-60s role players were known volunteers of the city (firefighters, tradesmen, masons)

[@jamiecamcan8587]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MafiaboysWorld]

"You can't compare pre-1980 with the modern NBA". Spot on JJ. Post-Merger was a different league.

[@ravishingrookrude]

but then says great players can play in any era

[@ryancusimano5892]

Untrue, Wilt and Russell would run circles around the nba today with the way the game is played

[@alexescutia4805]

@@ryancusimano5892 two guys don’t make up the whole league bud

[@NoSpinster0909]

@@ryancusimano5892 yeah right 😂

[@blackout07blue]

Jackie Moon!

[@richardcranium5801]

"He’s so hard to root for,” Russo commented. “Shut up and play. Will you please? America’s tired of Draymond Green." Speak for yourself and the other dinosaurs, Chris. Draymond is hilarious person and gives zero effs what people think about him. America loves that!

[@nurseypie]

This!

[@CliffPierson777]

Well he does give a Eff because he addressed it and seemed hurt and out for vengeance. Triggered by a comment that cannot be proven was about race.

[@nurseypie]

@@CliffPierson777 Explaining one's perspective doesn't mean Draymond gives a f-k about what an old outdated racist thinks. You're being simple-minded.

[@CliffPierson777]

@@nurseypie Its ridiculous that this guy Mad Dog is being dragged as a possible racist. Hear all the messages on foxx news or newsmax and those are the real undertones.

[@nurseypie]

@@CliffPierson777Russo engages in microaggressions. Please don't try to police a Black woman on what is or is not racist. And look up the definition of microaggression and tell me how Russo does not engage in it.

[@nomad_wm]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” is the best 😂😂😂

[@TZN86]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand.." lmao

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

We need more JJ and Mad, period. This is the first time I've seen them interacting. The newest and two biggest draws. Off-camera, they probably share a lot of laughs. Boomer (1959) vs. Millennial (1984). Good stuff.

[@mccreav]

I wouldn’t consider Russo “new” by any stretch but you’re right more of them is needed

[@NewKingBrandon]

@@mccreav I would speculate that GOAT was referring to Russo as new from the standpoint of a consistent guess on First Take.

[@mkhanman12345]

I like how Americans do this boomer mellenial stuff

[@datsapaddlin6449]

It’s like some dude arguing with his great uncle about sports 😂

[@adingdingdiiing6740]

JJ yes. The other dude, nah.

[@sakthithanigai5036]

Can ESPN just sign JJ for the next decade or so? Ye he doesn’t know much about other sports but he can learn. We as listeners need JJ for bball debates.

[@Nick-sr4fe]

Honestly I would trust JJ with other sports more than the media right now too. JJ would at the very least watch the games

[@b.g.3073]

SAS knows less about other sports. Not much of a difference.

[@jackdiddIey]

Look at Shannon Sharpe; he was in the NFL but look how knowledgeable he is in other sports. Anyone can learn

[@metalcoremania1]

He has his own podcast. This is real life not a video game who knows if JJ wants to be there full time we don’t know any inside information about contracts or anything. Stop asking for another man to do something and just enjoy that he’s doing it since your just a guy behind a keyboard doing nothing.

[@dannynhl9441]

I'm 42 years old and not gonna lie JJ has helped me take some of my nostalgic glasses off at times and realize how crazy I've been in the past. So it helps

[@finlayson6868]

Chris Russo’s all time starting 5: Bob Cousey Jerry West Larry Bird Dirk Nowitzki Bill Walton Bench: Steve Nash John Stockton Rick Barry Kevin Michale Rick Smits

[@ugoeze7360]

J.J: “He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen”. Me:💀.

[@QankoIvanov]

J.J straight up disrespected legends. I would like to see him playing against Wilt Chamberlain let's see who is a plumber now

[@kpaukeaho6180]

@@QankoIvanov dumb comment. Has nothing to do with whether Cousy or Paul is a better PG

[@spirenoir]

As a tar heel fan, I thought I was excited for Vince Carter to get out the league and do commentary but JJ is really killing it 😂🤣

[@Teffy2105]

Once is horrible he’s too nice nice and never says anything that might get you thinking, his points are weak, I can’t listen to Vince.

[@PMKru]

@Canelo "I take Steroids" Alvarez As A Tar Heel Fan I Always Liked JJ Lol

[@TheBeanBandito]

Bob Cousy 😂😂😂 that’s his argument out of every generational point guard he goes to bob cousey…never change Mad Dog

[@dudsulugulugan7639]

@Raymond Sims Cousy has more accomplishments but CP3 is a better player. But you are measured by accomplishments.

[@Michael-vn2jj]

Mad Dog goes by accomplishments only and not eye test. Anybody who understands basketball will tell you CP3 is a better player than Cousy. That's just beyond obvious. Magic would be a transcendent talent from the 50s-2020s. Same with guys like Curry and CP3, they are just so good at basketball that you drop them into any league era and they are great instantly. Cousy is only great in one era of basketball. He would need to be a completely different player to play in other eras. Jerry West would be great anytime from 50s to now but not Bob Cousy lol.. Cousy is not on Jerry West level, guys like Russo are just spreading misinformation to new generations lol. You want to harp on old school greats, talk about West, Oscar, Bill, Wilt, McAdoo, Kareem.... But when you start preaching Cousy its safe to assume: The person preaching is an old white guy from the east coast. I had a co-worker that was convinced Jerry Rice wasn't best WR ever, its the slow little white dude who played for the packers when there were like 5 teams. Racists refuse to acknowledge that the first to do something isn't the best. In fact more times then not, people get better at things as time goes on.

[@jonb2437]

@@Michael-vn2jj maybe not racist but more like, "We need to make sure the white athlete is not forgotten. There's not enough of us out there today" dude is feeling mad threatened 😂

[@Michael-vn2jj]

@@jonb2437 Thats probably more accurate. I know someone who stopped watching Baseball because "its not americas sport anymore" cause he was triggered that its "just not what it used to be" haha

[@danacdgo]

@@Michael-vn2jj What would Curry do in the 60s without the 3 point line? He would not even be drafted to the league. And with the rules back then any player from today would be turning the ball over every possesion because of palming, side steps, step backs, euro steps...

[@sman6501]

I think “analysts” and commentators lose their credibility when they show favoritism towards one era of any sport. If you can’t say that Chris Paul is one of the greatest PGs of all time; you don’t know what you’re talking about. A great player is someone that could play in any era of the sport; CP3 has the old school toughness balanced with the modern high percentage shooting ability. It’s either a back in the day argument or recency bias stance. You have to evaluate every factor of competition/rules in each era and take that into consideration. Rules did not benefit scorers in older eras as much as they do now. Sometimes it means records held in those older eras are more impressive, sometimes it doesn’t. There are amazing players in all eras of the NBA - it’s so exhausting that we can’t just appreciate greatness and leave it at that.

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Cp3 not top 10

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

@@BoosterGoldEarth6if we’re talking point guards this is an awful take

[@CJY-p6y]

Not even top 5. Magic, Steph, Kidd, IT, Stockton, Nash, West, Big O, Parker, Kyrie, Lillard guys barely top 10

[@pompelmostique]

God I never knew I'd love a man so much as I love JJ Redick for shutting down horrible takes with facts and class. Thank you sir!

[@nbagrandpa2656]

Bruh I almost spit out my food from laughing so hard at the end.

[@smoothiej7648]

JJ is the greatest debater I’ve seen. Logical, historian and reasonable. More JJ less Russo.

[@QankoIvanov]

Historian but doesn't know NBA history? Firemen? I would like to see J.J Reddick playing against Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell. There are probably atleast 5 players from the 60s better than CP3 - Robertson, Baylor, Barry, Wilt, Bill Russell,Nate Thurmond and others debatable.

[@smoothiej7648]

@@QankoIvanov you do understand he was speaking about the guys Cousy played against? Like the others. Which a lot of those guy weren’t getting paid enough to only play in the NBA/ABA so they literally were firemen, plumber, etc. He has said on numerous occasions his respect for the older players but they aren’t competing with the athletes today. Dudes didn’t even use their left hand. Which is fine for their time but in comparison to today it’s not close. There are a few exceptions to the rule and wily is definitely one of them. Bill russel wouldn’t win anywhere close to the amount he did (11 rings sheesh) with the limited talent and teams back in his day. None of this is meant as disrespect to the OG’s just pointing out the obvious for the most part which is what JJ did.

[@DaMillerBoi]

@@smoothiej7648 facts

[@sumwonpharted8402]

@@QankoIvanov yeah and that’s okay. These old heads make it like the current players are absolutely cheeks compared to the players of the previous eras. Whereas skill wise it’s completely the opposite

[@RobertSaxy]

@@QankoIvanov you’ve been served sir

[@MattTheDreamer7199]

"Plumbers and firemen." They were making honest livings bacc then.😂

[@QankoIvanov]

No they werent. Only some bench players. I would like to see JJ reddick playing against Baylor Russell or Chamberlain.

[@djstubbs]

Need more of these segments

[@pedrobisono747]

they have got to give those two a time slot i love the chemistry between them it would make a great show

[@jakeoberhand3893]

What makes CP3 so great is his ability to play traditional style point guard and make everyone around him better in an era where scoring point guards are coveted

[@Qpxy7]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand”🤣🤣🤣🤣 THATS FACTS😂😂😂😂

[@tonysopranooo1]

Albert Einstein wouldn't even know how to use an iPhone.. does that make u smarter than Einstein?? same logic here.. Cousy was way greater for his time than CP3 is right now

[@Qpxy7]

@@tonysopranooo1 how many teams were in the league back then?

[@RicoRamone09]

@@tonysopranooo1 We talking about basketball bruh he compared CP3 with another PG who can't even shoot or score efficient let alone handle a ball with either hand instead of being one dimensional lmao

[@defer114]

@@tonysopranooo1 That's not really an apt comparison. The real comparison would be comparing Einstein's knowledge of physics to a modern day physicist at the top of his field. Obviously a modern day physicist knows a lot more about how the universe works than Einstein did. They have a lot more information and they're able to expand on Einstein's ideas as well as all the other scientists in the last 70 years. Likewise, CP3 is a much better basketball player than Cousy ever was because there's a lot more infrastructure to become better, a lot more people play, and the game has evolved leaps and bounds in recent decades. That's all Redick was pointing out, which is why he said you can't compare people pre-1980 to the modern game.

[@gobot581]

@@tonysopranooo1 Bob Cousy played in a league where teams where still preferring to have a certain amount of white players irregardless of talent at times. The game was less widespread or popular meaning not known and rarely would receive the best athletes simply to say his Journey wasn’t harder his competition wand more and the more you expand the required skill sets the more those guys get weeded out

[@mitchwilliams8747]

give JJ his own show at this point... he too lit!!

[@KillMoeM]

He has his own show lol

[@MastermindRell]

Hold my 🍺 -JJ on his own show

[@lordbeerus6182]

He had his own show go watch it

[@mrlilrip10]

he will have one on espn if people keep commenting about it and he accepted it if they offered it to him. don’t underestimate the power of the people!

[@bxi1547]

@@KillMoeM Nobody watches to see JJ.

[@BlaztOffTV]

That’s why you shouldn’t have dudes on there who’s never played the game because they look at it from a fan’s point of view.

[@thescrolls9190]

Imagine Cousy trying to score against Pat Bev😂

[@michaelmoore9518]

Lmao If u seen what he did to lonzo ball his rookie night. It was be nasty what he would do to cousy lol

[@ceegreen1899]

When JJ says a fact, it seem so cut throat 🤣🤣 but technically he was really right 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@tonysopranooo1]

Albert Einstein wouldn't even know how to use an iPhone.. does that make u smarter than Einstein?? same logic here.. Cousy was way greater for his time than CP3 is right now

[@Treman198]

@@tonysopranooo1 Your argument is flawed. You’re comparing a “normal” person to a scientific genius. CP3 isn’t a “normal”person. He is in most peoples top 5 PG ever. Plus, Bob Cousy shouldn’t be Einstein when he is vastly overshadowed by other players at the time like Wilt, Bob Petit, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, and even his own teammate Bill Russell. He wasn’t the pinnacle of the basketball world like Einstein was of science and mathematics. Bob Cousy couldn’t even dribble left-handed and you think CP3 isn’t better?

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@Treman198 if Cousy didn't exist, and others in the 50's didn't exist... CP3 would be looking goofy af dribbling with 1 hand right now... i'm not saying Cousy is better, but he is definitely greater and more accomplished than CP3

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@Treman198 only thing CP3 is top 5 all time in is blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs lol.

[@sportsnerd100]

@@Treman198 bob cousy was arguably better than jerry west

[@tonyh9886]

He was guarded by plumbers and firemen!!! 😂😂😂😂 JJ is a real one!!!!

[@SimplyOneSound]

@Awesome Sauce He didnt bring it up though. Mad dog did. Mad dog was saying Bob is better than Cp3 basically. That's ignorance.

[@DelGTAGrndrs]

@@SimplyOneSound cp3 is above average not transcendental at all

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@SimplyOneSound Albert Einstein wouldn't even know how to use an iPhone.. does that make u smarter than Einstein?? same logic here.. Cousy was way greater for his time than CP3 is right now..

[@elzrobinson3307]

@@DelGTAGrndrs 🤡

[@danacdgo]

@Awesome Sauce not to mention that Kyrie and CP3 would make like 30 turnovers per game in the 60s because there were different rules. People are clowning their dribbling but dont realize that they needed to keep their hand at the top of the ball all the time something like in handball.

[@misterjojo240]

“Well he was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 😂😂😂

[@mananz5877]

Maddog vs Ryan Hollins vs Nick Wright debate would be hilarious 😂

[@Davoice00]

The look on Stephen a smith face when jj said cousy was guarded by firemen and plumbers is priceless and funny lol

[@aqibrizvi4859]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand" I'm DEAD

[@gregorywilson2124]

Go watch Bob Cousy highlights. He was an excellent ball handler and floor general.

[@aqibrizvi4859]

@@gregorywilson2124 I'm sure he was. Against plumbers and firemen

[@Justin683]

That plumbers and firemen comment was emotion at that point. CP was JJ’s former teammate and he was not having this Bob Cousy BS

[@Dbd3k]

Yeah for sure JJ got a little tight at the end lol

[@Christian-eq6pq]

Yeah but it is pretty ludicrous to say CP3 isn’t an all time great because of Cousy. I’m a Celtic fan but Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, and even Steph Curry have better resumes.

[@AfonsoHenriques1139]

to much emotion...like females. mad dog is right..history is to be respected not dismissed. ignorant fools are to be called ignorant. go back to school you woke karen.

[@EdgarCotija]

Get both those guys a show 😂

[@McYates24]

CP3 can't be considered in the best PG convo when he's exclusively choked in the playoffs, definitely needs at least 1 ring to be considered

[@alexescutia4805]

That’s literally what jj said

[@xZaaminator]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 💀💀💀💀

[@shadowNooob]

First time I’ve seen Stephen A not say anything 💀

[@clownfish92]

bro was befuddled 😭

[@JamesHall_II]

3rd. The 1st was when Mark Cuban got on demon time with Skip & the 2nd was when Richard Sherman did the same thing 🤣🤣🤣

[@alexescutia4805]

@@JamesHall_II ain’t kds mama get him to be quiet too

[@JamesHall_II]

@@alexescutia4805 I’d say no because I believe that he said to her face that KD joining GSW was the weakest move he seen from an all time great

[@hellstone115]

honestly you gotta love seeing JJ defend his friend and former teammate. Especially after watching the interview he had with him on his podcast

[@daelin9759]

JJ is like the one guy on espn that doesn't speak based on narratives or his own biased opinion he speaks on facts he may give his opinion and you may even disagree with his opinion but 9/10 it's based on reality and common sense and you can tell he actually studies and loves the game espn needs more like him and less people like Stephen A

[@blackout07blue]

Mad Dog is a beast.

[@sportsnerd100]

Tf you mean. Purely narrative when he made the plumbers comment

[@mattesser5027]

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Tons of the clowns on ESPN like SAS just blab about EXCRUCIATING PRESSURE, nothing about actual basketball. JJ, Legler & J Williams have something to say. SAS, KeShaun, Max, Nick Wright, and ofc Drip Baseless ALLLLL worthless. I don't even watch them speak anymore. Notice a trend though. Former players > Media personalities.

[@vladimirdodig6813]

@@sportsnerd100 no he was right

[@sportsnerd100]

@@vladimirdodig6813 he clearly doesnt “love the game” if he talks like that about the legends before him. Kobe loved the game. He had a great appreciation for the greats

[@apep06]

More mad dawg and jj on this show immediately we need it🙏🏼

[@ND-OPS]

Her after Jerry west savagely destroys JJ lol. I was not expecting the "Firemen and Plumbers" to be said by a professional tv analyst. bro you dont have to disrespect pioneers of the game just to prove your point. JJ your on tv youre not on twitter you cant say silly things like that.

[@joeydubznews]

More JJ! He’s more real than even Richard J or Perkins. He’s 100% REAL

[@reggie7408]

Thank You JJ, also CP3 is a 4x First Team All NBA. Russo is a typical old head who hates to give credit to modern day players

[@J7mmy2K04]

I totally agree with most of what JJ said, and I think mad dog is an idiot, but I will say, one chip will not put CP3 in the convo for best PG all time, That conversation includes Magic, Steph, and maybe IT, Chris Paul needs at least 2 chips to be there.

[@reggie7408]

@@J7mmy2K04 Oh yea I agree with that. The goat PG is unquestionably Magic and there’s nothing cp3 can do to pass Magic, or Steph atp. But everything else JJ said was true

[@fastballfilms4214]

@@J7mmy2K04 steph curry above chris paul...LUL me to sleep

[@82dupont]

Isaiah Thomas is the best pure point guard ever and I hated the Pistons but you have to give credit where credit is due.

[@JoeSmithGOAT]

@@fastballfilms4214 LMAO you're the problem if you think Curry ISN'T above Paul 😴 Tell me when Paul ever won an MVP

[@NoName-cn3cp]

"He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen." Lol dead.

[@AnthonyBrown-xd2lw]

😂😂😂😅

[@LeanieSigel]

The plummers and firemen line 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@wwCs49]

Comparing players from diff eras is such a boring and pointless debate already

[@drruru15]

Cp3 is buns stop it 😂😂😂😂😂 Pels in 6

[@dmoney51630]

L

[@liamiangaming7931]

Suns in 6.

[@tashrif46]

1:53 JJ, don't be that disrespectful. To say players are plumbers and firemen is very disrespectful to the history of the game of basketball.

[@Luis.BerriosVidal]

maybe you should go and learn some history of the nba, in the 50s the league was mostly a part time job and they used to have another job like plumbers and fireman. hes not lying

[@tashrif46]

@@Luis.BerriosVidal Or maybe don't belittle the players of the 50s and try insinuate that they had little to no skills because they had part-time jobs as the NBA salaries were not what it is today. Don't be so thick.

[@hiphopesq]

@@tashrif46 lf you have a full time job, and it’s isn’t basketball, you can’t guard ANY players in today’s NBA on a regular basis. That’s not disrespect, it’s facts.

[@tashrif46]

@@hiphopesq thats not the point though. Today's players don't have that burden because the previous generations made sure they can make a living just by playing basketball. To be that blatantly disrespectful is just wrong.

[@tashrif46]

@@BlondeEmu why does it deserve no respect? Just because they were born in the 30s, does not mean you have to completely disrespect the history of the sport that JJ played in

[@johnnymyers20]

JJ came with all the smoke today 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dmailaddress25]

He left no smoke at home. Gave em every bit!

[@loudpac4lyfe497]

Bob Cousy couldn’t gerbil with his left hand 😂😂😂

[@austinfigueroa4851]

I would’ve never guessed for a single minute during his career that I would love JJ so much one day 💀

[@toreyd9728]

Keep jj on the show he the only person that keeps it real!!!

[@69xMetalheadx]

Mad Dogg is the Jim Cornette of the NBA

[@Gabe_Lopez]

Ironically enough Jim Cornette hates Vince Russo with a passion and you compare him to another Russo

[@smokespurp2801]

He really said plumbers n fire fighters 💀💀

[@sunvalleyslatt1781]

There is no way he think Bob Cousy over cp3💀

[@justtwizzey2429]

I still watch this clip once a month 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Frank_San_Nicolas]

In the film Blue Chips, with Shaq and Penny, Bob Cousy couldn’t miss a free throw in a scene when he was already an old man. JJ is right, it’s hard to compare pre-modern NBA to today but Cousy was a special player regardless.

[@OfficerJakeyPoo]

Chris Paul was do things one on one to bob Cousy that would be considered war crimes

[@Frank_San_Nicolas]

@@OfficerJakeyPoo Maybe. Maybe not.

[@markozbunjol625]

@@OfficerJakeyPoo Cousy is way better then overrated CP3

[@QankoIvanov]

@@OfficerJakeyPoo Adjust eras - Cousy was a better player then than Paul now? Isnt he

[@kpaukeaho6180]

@@QankoIvanov your key phrase there is “adjust eras”

[@f3rnsworld791]

This was awesome, we need more debates like this!

[@jimhartt4129]

I worked with the magic and heat and every player always commented how dumb reporters are with their questions and stances. JJ was being respectful of past athletes but telling the truth regarding the advances of the sport and the players (other great players like J. West also couldn't dribble compared to today). JJ is sharp, funny, actually understands basketball, and can put you in the ground with a debate. These guys are idiots for challenging him in anything basketball! He is gold! GOLD!

[@sillygoose635]

it's not them being dumb, it's their questions, they're just doing their jobs. leave em alone and just shut up

[@Zoomyi]

Duke graduate

[@farziran87m6]

Kareem played in 69 to 89. Grew up when russell wilt were on top played against wilt jordan. Won a chip in 88 finals in 89. He was 40 y o in 89 dominating with a skyhook against modern centers. Nobody could stop him. Is ben wallace sjilled? Wallace never dribbled the ball at tge park but his gritt determination iq on d made him a hof player. Your telking me russell couldnt be one of tge greatest defensive forces today. Was rodman skilled? Oakley? These guys were tough but thry had zero handle coukdnt do anything but set picks on offense but they were smart. Kareem was smartest player ever. They asjed him why he always went to the hook. His answer cause nobody knew how to stop it.

[@user-nc8re4hh4o]

He was been guarded by plumbers and fire men 😂🤣 JJ a Savage

[@06asheville]

Did Bob Cousy ever go 14/14 in a playoff game?

[@demetriusthacker1511]

He was being guarded by plumbers and fireman 😂😂😂😂

[@crypto_thug9218]

This 70 year old think bob cousey is better than cp3

[@josephhinton9716]

If you have bob cousey an anime power up… he still couldn’t beat cp3… this is getting ridiculous lmao Cp3 top 5 pg of all time wins a chip there’s a discussion for best ever. He is that dude.

[@prolific1518]

JJ a real 1

[@patek9789]

not really he just disrespected a nba legend for no reason although little kids like you think that’s funny and all

[@prolific1518]

@@patek9789 didn't average 40% for his career. Couldn't use his off hand. Plumber.

[@patek9789]

@@prolific1518 you obviously don’t know the context of that era the dribbling rules were different you had to keep only one hand either if your were right or lefty on top the ball at all time with no side palm allowed. since 1990 you could palm the side of the ball at all times. as far as his fg% around the League (regardless of position) were a lot lower then due to multiple factors. Heck, George Mikan, the most dominant big man in his era who was viewed as a force of nature shot 40% for his career. The art of shooting wasn’t yet fully mastered like today we all know that today the game is 85% of the three ball, players back then we’re shooting what is called a “set shot.” if you really wanna go down by fg% you might want to take a look at James Harden because he is tied with bob cousy at 20% from the field in his playoff career.

[@prolific1518]

@@patek9789 you saying a lot of stuff but not coming to the conclusion of being less skilled. Keep trying with those mental gymnastics. 👍🏾

[@patek9789]

@@prolific1518 well if you just wanna go by less skilled then sure he’s not skilled then most players in the nba today but that was over 60 years ago. in 60 more years are the players gonna be more skilled then the players now or no?

[@skeeminplot]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen.” 😂 😂

[@javianjohnson8746]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand!” 😭😭😭 this quote takes the cake lmao

[@MDA00xx]

Man i freaking love JJ bro his takes are impecible the only time i watch first take is when he's here!

[@kynston]

JJ is amazing. This was so much fun.

[@blackout07blue]

Mad Dog made it fun.

[@onyx9857]

When Cousy played, half the league (4 teams) made the conference finals.

[@QankoIvanov]

Less teams - more talent

[@onyx9857]

@@QankoIvanov AAU teams didn’t exist so the talent pool was very small.

[@jianjian1791]

When I took a quick glance at the headline I thought I saw “ Chris Paul is not a transgender player “ 😂

[@shakiemjeanjoseph428]

Jerry West responses to JJ Redick’s Comments about “Firemen and Plumbers” and he said the game is changed because they didn’t have Weight Rooms,Personal Trainers,Nutritions,Practice Faculties back then which they have today

[@catwearingshades]

Discount Skip Bayless

[@joshhighwind9886]

Lol what? Mad Dog is a legend.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Mad is old enough to be JJ's dad. Heck, I'm 1980 and my dad was born 1959. We got people saying Michael Jordan played against plumbers and firemen. In 50 years, they'll say the same thing about LeBron.. 🤣

[@AB1B1]

Lol fax

[@andresdelportillo9917]

Bob cousey played electricians and plumbers

[@focusedchick]

Yep. I remember Nick Wright arguing that Westbrook's numbers in Washington were good because he was the best player among plumber teammates. Instead of arguing real points, remedial analysts say this anytime they want to downplay someone's talent (there are far better ways to argue against Westbrook, like his stat padding). I was disappointed to hear JJ go the plumbers and firemen route. I thought he was better than that. But you're right. This will carry on forever and in a few years younger players/fans will be calling JJ one of the plumbers of this generation.

[@alexescutia4805]

I’m a bron fan but they gonna say “he played against tik tokers and instagrammers

[@deeegeeekay]

JJ was the most needed thing in announcing and analysis by far. Ever since his podcast, it was clear this guy has known way more than any of these guys for a while.

[@hitman321100]

No he doesn't, he's disrespecting players who paved the way foe the game today. Players back then were playing in horrible court conditions wearing Chuck taylors. Today's players have it easier.

[@deeegeeekay]

@@hitman321100 Having access to better equipment produced better basketball players. If you wanna do the “If Bob Cousy had a Tesla…” argument, I’m all for doing that. I’m just letting you know that being able to dribble with both hands was a STANDARD in any era of basketball, despite whether you were wearing Chuck’s or Kobe’s.

[@hitman321100]

@@deeegeeekay First if JJ Reddick is lying, Bob Cousey could dribble with his left. The biggest part people are missing is you couldn't even palm the ball. You know how hard it is to dribble without palming the ball? Also taking 2 steps was considered a travel back then.

[@deeegeeekay]

@@hitman321100 Didn’t ask about past NBA rules, stop leading away from the initial argument. I’ve met 12 year olds with better handles than Bob Cousy bro, get out of the past and go to your local park.

[@dakotakearney996]

My guy said he was being guarded by plumbers and fireman.😂😂

[@moonoo2353]

What is with this dude bringing up Bob Cousy all the time lol? He aint touching nobody from later eras

[@ricosanchez202]

Because Cousy is white. Duh!!!

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

It's sad how players continue to load manage and they still get injured! While Jordan had 9 82-game seasons and 11 out of 15 playing over 80. And that was a more physical era where the league didn't protect their players like they do now.

[@jdilla4591]

Guys over train now and basketball is more of a year round sport for all players because the competition is high around the world. Plus these kids have been playing a lot of games since the aau days

[@alexescutia4805]

Jordan also only lasted how many seasons?

[@sulley119]

Didn’t Jordan take two years off in the middle of his career. Talk about load management LMAO

[@monstermix7134]

Please keep mad dog in the show he is awesome 👏🏽

[@The_IcemaN_723]

Name the all time point guards you would take over Chris Paul. The list is actually pretty long.

[@AB1B1]

I don't know how JJ came up w) that foolishness. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@therealdakshina1051]

Magic, Steph, Zeke, John Stockton that's pretty much it

[@The_IcemaN_723]

@@therealdakshina1051 is it wrong that I don't consider Steph a point guard? Same for Allen Iverson.

[@therealdakshina1051]

@@The_IcemaN_723 ok fair point

[@tylerdavis6873]

What’s the list then? 😂

[@angelkila]

He was guarded my plumbers & firemen 😂😂😂😂

[@APJDFSONLY]

Man said Bob Cuz lol 😂