Lance Armstrong talks training under Michele Ferrari, EPO | ‘LANCE’ Part 1 excerpt | ESPN 30 for 30

In this excerpt from Part 1 of ESPN’s 30 for 30 “LANCE,” Lance Armstrong describes how he connected with trainer Michele Ferrari and how he followed the advice of Ferrari “to the word,” including when it came to the use of erythropoietin (EPO), a banned drug that stimulates the production of red blood cells.
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[@suziederkins3310]

In another lifetime Ferrari would be regarded as a genius

[@phililpb]

an evil genius

[@Lovicide]

I'll always respect lance for his role in Tour De Pharmacy

[@DublinDapper]

You think Tour De Pharmacy doesnt happen anymore...lol

[@martin.B777]

@@DublinDapper Who claims that? Pharmacy is always at least one step ahead.😜

[@suziederkins3310]

Name one sport that's not tainted by PEDs? Funny how cycling gets a bad rap yet every other sport get a free pass.

[@trackandfieldnews9122]

@@suziederkins3310 literally no sports get a pass stop making up stuff

[@doc_Louis]

@@suziederkins3310 Any other sport where your performance is not solely dependant on easily doped physical characteristics like endurance or strength will have way less doping. Cycling results are almost exclusively dependant on aerobic capacity and so the sport is inherently vulnerable to doping. Other sports that require more technical skills form their athletes like gymnastics, tennis, golf will also have their doping problems, but not to the same extent as cycling.

[@PoliticusRex632]

Lance's comment "It worked for me" pretty much explains everything.

[@VitalMusic217]

Just like "this would have never happened [me getting caught] if I didn't make that 2009 comeback [got too greedy]"

[@danielkubik2501]

@@deuterium_pottage yes cancer

[@markwhaley596]

It also worked for everyone else. Lance would be the goat on any equal playing field.

[@PoliticusRex632]

@@markwhaley596 actually not so but whatever.

[@tfa8]

@@markwhaley596 not everyone had 45k US to pay for EPO per month so it wasn't 'everyone' or 'leveled ' but clean riders of this generation got nothing because of cheats like this fraud

[@DynamiteDB]

The actor who played Dr Michele Ferarri in The Program did such a good job. He looks exactly like him.

[@KusHNinja]

Looking like someone and doing a great job of portraying them are two different things..

[@timetrialist]

Eddy is Dope! 😂

[@Chucky_-kg2ij]

The guy destroyed his own legacy and u treat him like it never happen

[@mindciller]

He didn't destroy his legacy. Everybody knows he won those seven tours. Nobody could stop him until he retired and tried to come back and the younger talent was at their peak (doped). That's his legacy

[@ChristopherX30]

Who treats him like it never happened?

[@keithjones6240]

Complexion for the protection

[@dontbesoemotionalmate9468]

They were all using and some are still cheating .. Lance is the GOAT no matter what !

[@shineonnent.7951]

Hes white he can always bounce back in this society

[@greatstate58]

I find PED’s in sports so fascinating. I want to see this.

[@joesutherland2017]

If you are still interested in the PED's in sports subject, look into "The Secret Race" by Tyler Hamilton, one of Armstrong's former domestiques. It does a great job of pulling back the curtain to show exactly what went on in pro cycling with regards to doping. Even if you are not a cyclist, it is a fascinating read.

[@sabrina.natalie]

I do too. It’s a pretty intriguing topic. I would also recommend the documentary called “Icarus” on Netflix. It really goes into Russia’s extensive strategy to having their athletes use PED’s in the Olympics.

[@essexbirds1870]

Best races I have ever seen, Loved it.

[@PersonaN007Grata]

Aren’t pro cyclists still doping? Doubt they’re all clean.

[@SmellyBoy28]

@fensterfred you know Lance never tested positive right? He was tested as much as any athlete ever. They will always be 1 step ahead.

[@johntharp22]

I grew up watching Lance Armstrong racing his Tours de France, and as a competitive young cyclist myself, it seemed clear to me that he (along with most other professional cyclists) were doing something that pushed past what mere mortals such as I could do, and I suspected that it wasn't legal/ethical. I was angry because it tarnished a truly beautiful sport. I've actually found Mr. Armstrong more interesting as a person now that he's been forced to face the truth of his past than I ever did when he was portrayed as a superhuman.

[@pwnster14]

I don’t know much about cycling I was born in 1998 but my opinion is it definitely tarnished his career but playing devils advocate just taking it doesn’t do anything for you, you have to train like an animal so he was superhuman just the captain America kind brother

[@rebinu]

@@pwnster14 yup he was still training like 30+ hours probably

[@michaellopez2070]

Eddie Merx was stimulant user in his day. It’s a weird sport to begin with.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

TJ Dillashaw has entered the chat

[@BG-fh5me]

Nah Jon Jones has tho

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

@@BG-fh5me TJ takes epo

[@BG-fh5me]

@@MichaelP-ke1tm true they're all on something though

[@Giuly_927]

LOL

[@thrasher797]

USADA has banned TJ from the chat

[@user-dg5nj1ez8c]

Can you Imagine Greg Lemond’s mindset after Lance finally getting exposed

[@braves5696]

He probably used stuff too. His competition did, it started in Europe before the US. It was already in baseball during the mid 80’s when Lemond was winning.

[@franz009franz]

@@braves5696 of course lemond was doping, you can't win the tour twice in the late 80s and not dope. impossible. he's the biggest liar of all of them. trying to expose others to feel better about himself and feel superior to them. what a douche.

[@alexanderishere1857]

@@braves5696 he definitely did

[@cyril4046]

@@alexanderishere1857 Source?

[@frankducky6130]

@@braves5696 Read Fignon's book. EPO didn't exist in widespread use in the 80's. Try again, Lance Lover.

[@wedialamin4437]

Michele Ferreira is a genius 🦁

[@martin.B777]

Ferrari: All you need is red cells! Russia: Hold my vodka!🥃

[@dyschromotopia]

Somewhat more than that.

[@JustAThought155]

I completely respect him being this real. It happens. Denying it and all the other negative stuff against others is what bothered me. I can deal with this. And I completely understand.

[@iaingreig9685]

Don't be fooled, he is only this honest now because it is his only hope in hell of winning back any respect from the public. The guy would still be the same asshole he was before if he never got exposed the way he did.

[@phililpb]

@@iaingreig9685 no he is only honest now to avoid jail

[@georgekontogouris6618]

No respect for cheaters

[@MrBurns-fq2xf]

Everyone was cheating in that sport so just say you don’t respect the tour

[@Daniel-yo5es]

every single rider on the pro circuit are using peds…. simple as that... you cannot even stay with the main group without using peds…. let me say it again.... EVERY SINGLE RIDER ON THE PRO CIRCUIT IS USING THE LATEST PEDS AND BLOOD DOPING

[@blinzi69]

its not cheating if everybody does it.

[@dkharris111]

@Wilson 95%. anyone in the top 3/4s for sure.

[@mperhaps]

Here's how you can tell if you're an ignorant P.O.S. If you think Lance did ANYTHING differently than every other competitor in that race you are an iP.O.S.

[@dontbesoemotionalmate9468]

Lance is the GOAT no matter what they say 😆 The whole top 10 was using but he was still beating them up 😅

[@blackmamba3060]

Not true, everyone wasn't on the same gear.

[@francescomancetti8327]

@@blackmamba3060 you are right. ONCE and Telekom had way more budget and experience with EPO than Armstrong in 1999, US Postal wasn't even equivalent of what is a World Tour team today and got invited to the tour. It's like comparing bardiani with quickstep or ineos

[@leonellangston2009]

You had to witness the streak 99-04 of the Tour d' France to know how huge this story is. It was a dark time with peds in North American sports.

[@mindciller]

It wasn't a dark time. This year is dark. I'd rather have all our sports back than being cancelled by a virus. North American sports are awesome it's non Americans that don't want to see us beat their roided athletes.

[@robbanks4356]

What doping has always existed in sports? They are only sorry because they got caught.

[@AlwaysSunnyInNorway]

All of your American athleats are drug useres, past present and im sure for the future as well

[@janeztomazic5546]

@@mindciller ha ha

[@CautionBeforeCoffee]

60-70% if not more of the top athletes are on PEDs. Just wake up. You think world records that’s were set by dopers are being beat by ‘clean’ athletes lol. It’s a business, end of. Move past it and enjoy it for what it is, a spectacle.

[@Covid--ts5cw]

See kids, he's still getting all the attention he desires. Don't play by the rules, you'll get ahead, use each shortcut you can. Dope, dope up with anything that will go inside your body. Live your dreams.

[@HarryPNess-us2vs]

Lance wanted to be a champion & during that era, that was only gonna be possible if he doped to level the playing field. It was evident by the fact even other pros were told you either dope or you don't in that sport but if you don't dope, don't expect to win

[@mrtoad1408]

The real lesson this teaches is try and become too big to fail. If you generate huge amounts of revenue for the right people you can get away with anything.

[@mattreyes4803]

Don't hate the player hate the game

[@janeztomazic5546]

@@HarryPNess-us2vs he was doping long before he came to europe

[@Lerch-zc3ww]

@@mrtoad1408 Not forever.

[@nicoderhunter]

Ive been waiting for this just like any Cycling Fan

[@roadracer1584]

EPO rocks! A Pharma that makes EPO should sponsor a pro bike racing team!

[@joesutherland2017]

Well, Amgen DID sponsor the Tour of California for a good while when it was around. Close enough?

[@spaceshido6124]

Yeah people say is bad ...lence looks good to me after all this years of doping 😂😂😂

[@daboxingscholar]

😯😯😯😯 I hate when athletes point the finger instead of taking personal responsibility you're an athlete it's your job to know what you're putting in your body lets not make this man the big bad wolfe

[@parkerjones6598]

I hear what you are saying, but in Lance's case I believe he did address this in the full version of the documentary... he said he always knew what he was taking and never played the plausible deniability card, he stated that he knew it was wrong and made the choice to do every substance he took. Don't quote me, but he said something to the effect of, "I always knew what was going on; it was never, 'take this, don't ask questions'. Because I would never have been down for that."

[@ranelgallardo7031]

Russian Olympic Team: This dude is our role model.

[@janeztomazic5546]

oh yes, the "clean" US olympic team

[@randyevermore9323]

He's AMERICAN

[@NTL578]

@@janeztomazic5546 Yes but the STATE sponsors it in Russia. (Not American)

[@davd1986]

@@NTL578 Yeah, let's dismiss the US doping problems (in all professional sports) simply because others do it differently. Typical American.

[@VitalMusic217]

mmm... He is american dude. Yet you bring up russians into you sentence... hilarious.

[@roadracer1584]

You are the best doper EVER Lance!

[@abone2pick]

Bjarne riis*

[@mperhaps]

Here's how you can tell if you're an ignorant P.O.S. If you think Lance did ANYTHING differently than every other competitor in that race you are an iP.O.S.

[@MrQuietman87]

7 Tour de France on drugs, and when I am drunk I can’t even find my bike 😀

[@sebastian7112]

This joke is lame and old

[@austinbench110]

Sebastian I thought it was funny

[@victorious541]

Super lame! 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@charlesellis4775]

If he was introduced to Ferrari by Merckx... then Merckx was ...

[@treygray2817]

Everyone knows both Merckx's were dopers

[@andyrusellthunderbrook4651]

@@treygray2817 but still presented as a hero from Aso and LA is banned what freaks

[@JumpingWatermelons]

Of course, the cycling God knows all about it and has conmections

[@jasegmoney9542]

When you listen to Tyler Hamilton speak about this period he seems very contrite and he knows the severity of his actions. Then there’s lance , he’s so arrogant. He’s like a child that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

[@justtestingonce]

No, people just like to believe in teddy bears and unicorns. Lance decided to look at cycling for what it was during this time and decided he would be a winner and the best at it, that same mindset made him beat the cancer in his testes, lungs and brain. You may not like it but you’re linking in dreamland if you think a clean rider was going to win the TDF back then.

[@jasegmoney9542]

@@justtestingonce I know they were all dirty. It doesn’t make what Lance did to people (lawsuits) right. I was a fan , but when lance chased down Simeone on a stage and signaled to the camera to keep quiet just because he testified against his dr . That was the height of arrogance, which is all I was saying.

[@justtestingonce]

@@jasegmoney9542 yeah, my point is Lance knew what he was and committed 100% to it. Guys like Hamilton wanted the wins, the success, the fame and then grew a conscious once they were getting caught and started ratting on Lance. Same with Floyd, it wasn’t like they said “you know I don’t like this and I’ll not join the top team for all the glory and fame”. Today they wanna act like saints and rest everything on Lance’s shoulders.

[@ParzivalPlaysAtari]

The only thing Lance is sorry about is that he got caught.

[@phililpb]

@@ParzivalPlaysAtari Hamilton only came out to avoid jail

[@theworkerhours3141]

what kind of documentary is it? who is Lance Armstrong?

[@matejburian3191]

It is a documentary about greatest cyclist of all time, His name is Lance Armstrong (7xTdF winner)

[@theworkerhours3141]

@@matejburian3191 what did you mean? I googled his name and came out DOPE Armstrong. He couldn't be the greatest cyclist of all time. what a joke

[@Patrick-yo6mz]

@@theworkerhours3141 in his time all good guys were doped. Level playing field. So he was the best. He won 7 tdf.

[@theworkerhours3141]

@@Patrick-yo6mz he cheated. period

[@Tdope768]

@@theworkerhours3141 No, he just got caught, period. When it comes to most multi-millionaire/world stage athletic sports chances are they're using steroids.

[@Devin_MMA]

A roidhead beat other roidheads for 7 years I think he is the goat

[@sprayaho1ic]

@tehanomander your naive to even consider other riders were not doping "as much" as Lance, and that its his doping alone which won him races. He was by far the best out of a Peloton full of doped up riders. If all that was required for other riders to win was to take MORE magic juice, then that is exactly what they would have done. He is a liar and a cheat, but still an incredibly talented cyclist. The best of a "bad" lot.

[@sprayaho1ic]

@tehanomander Thanks for your reply. I'm not a fan of Lance. Not sure why you thought that. My main issue is that you were implying that he might not have been even a "good" cyclist. Anyway, we are all entitled to our opinions at the end of the day and I accept we disagree on this one. In the end, neither you or I really know what was going on behind the scenes. We can assume who was and who wasn't cheating etc, but its all really educated guesswork in the end. Not too sure what your comment at the end was all about. The "heroic" part that is. anyway, hope all is well :)

[@simonknowles4267]

Can this be seen on the internet anywhere. I’m from Australia

[@thomasmyers9134]

Get a free trial for Kayosports, it's on there

[@simonknowles4267]

@@thomasmyers9134 thanks for that I’ll look into it.

[@glasshalffull8471]

You can't argue it worked for Lance, 7 wins is still the benchmark.

[@RadioNul]

1:45 "and that's it" and then Lance licks his lips. ahahahahaha. there was more, clearly

[@tryhardpker]

There isnt much else to take in terms of performance benefits in endurance/aerobic sport. They stayed away from hgh or anything anabolic to maintain a low body weight. Some pain killers were used but those were mainly legal and some still are (with doctors prescription)

[@yeimarsoto3196]

​@@tryhardpkerThis is false. There are dozens of PEs cyclists can ingest. They can drink derivatives of liquid oxygen and bypass aerobic respiration altogether. They can cycle for miles on end without having to take a single breath in.

[@kampfpilot4751]

genius this italian doctor

[@fiestaphil8209]

I give my dogs Red Cell and I always repeat what Ferrari said to Lance. My gf has no clue what I’m talking about lol

[@julio5497]

Best doper of his generation. Legend in his own mind until he got caught.

[@iammaximus614]

Everyone was doing it It just level the playing field

[@julio5497]

@@iammaximus614 Yup everyone was doing and I'm sure thats why there wasn't an official winner for those years.

[@franz009franz]

still a legend. the greatest ever. if all wouldve been clean he would still have dominated. there really was no choice.

[@frankducky6130]

@@franz009franz nope.

[@mperhaps]

Here's how you can tell if you're an ignorant P.O.S. If you think Lance did ANYTHING differently than every other competitor in that race you are an iP.O.S.

[@chadog900]

Cant spell DOPE without EPO. Soak that in, kids.

[@officialbrandonlampkin]

I don’t care what PED’s he was on! The guy almost died of cancer and not only came back, but won the tour d’ France

[@officialbrandonlampkin]

Jonathan King what are talking about man the guy is a beast... whatever he was taking everyone should take it! Including your weak a**. Enough of this natural athlete sh*t because no one at a high level of sport is “natural” they all supplement.

[@rhaybans]

Anyone else get a drug commercial ad on this video? lol

[@kabelomaragelo2745]

Glorifying a cheater . Absolute madness

[@ChristopherX30]

No glorification. Just telling the guy's story.

[@MrLeoMessio]

Lance is a champion, drugs are everywhere in sports, he’s still the best of his generation and his rat teammates who outed him should live their lives in shame and he should live guilt free

[@YPeezy]

Lance goes hard

[@thomasb4357]

does somebody know the background music?

[@j.a4923]

Where can I watch the whole doco?

[@SIMOLAMBOTZ]

ESPN plus

[@jamskof]

@@SIMOLAMBOTZ thats not what hes asking...

[@tomloa245]

michele ferrari is a genius

[@dawsonnance4407]

But let’s be honest. Does anyone really care about this one

[@ChristopherX30]

This documentary was about as needed as "The Last Dance".

[@VitalMusic217]

It's impressive how he still manages to stay relevant after being exposed as a shameful fraud.

[@SurrealExposure12]

@@ChristopherX30 what 😂😂

[@emissary_kyle]

The OG CEO of EPO!

[@vernefits1953]

Lance is the GOAT

[@Sills71]

Lance likes to say "it was a bad time" as an excuse for his horrendous behavior. Let me detail just how Lance was so much worse than anyone he raced against. First and foremost, Lance Armstrong is a CRIMINAL, you can watch him commit perjury on KZbin... he abused the legal systems of several countries... failed false claims of slander and libel... and infringement on the civil rights of Americans. Not to mention the fact that the UCI gave him special treatment. Lance Armstrong is the very definition of evil.

[@jaagmari]

MJ: GOAT for team sports Lance: GOAT for individual sports

[@Lusting4Legs]

Armstrong wants forgiveness, but can't say I'm sorry.

[@bluebirdrunningcompany1840]

Definitely, there's no need to continue telling his story. He lied, he cheated, he had his 7 titles stripped from him, though if you look at his Twitter handle, he touts himself as a 7 time winner of the maillot jaune. He's still in denial and continues to evade responsibility for his deeds and actions. How can anyone believe a word he says-past, present, or future? It's a better story to tell of someone who struggled through adversity and still came out a winner, despite the odds, through hard work and determination, not blood doping.

[@pagejustin5572]

Bluebird Running Company like Derek Bouchard Hall and Christophe Bassons could have had a chance to let hard work pay off if the system kept docs like Ferrari the fukc out

[@wrxzboost]

any cheater was a liar - and they all cheated. you simply don't take PED's and admit it. i don't understand why everyone attacks his character. undeniably, he was the greatest cyclist from his era. therefore, he had a lot more to protect including his Livestrong foundation so to punish the guy for trying to keep his name clean just like EVERYONE else in this sport that was doping is hypocritical. and cinderella stories are boring - this is a breathe of fresh air.

[@dyschromotopia]

They all cheated when he won, many still do. PED's are essential if you want to compete in any sport. Lance won those titles...he knows it & so does everyone else in the sport, past & present.

[@clayvianwilliams8624]

The greatest sports doctor ever to walk the fave of the earth

[@leedorney]

Old news, back when Axel Merckx went to Ferrari it was in the cycling press...

[@frikkelisjes]

wow, never heard that before. Can you imagine sending your son to a doctor to get doped? What a POS

[@phililpb]

from his first win everyone in france knew he was doped. the US corporate sponsors and us press help cover up for their golden goose. the same lot washed their hands of Lance when it finaly came out

[@Giggin-yourmom]

World: So the two supposed best cyclists ever. Both dope their blood cell count. ESPN: let’s pay the cheaters more money

[@Daniel-yo5es]

EVERY SINGLE RIDER IN THE TOUR DE FRANCE IS DOPING HOMIE.. THEY ALL DO IT... YOU CANNOT COMPETE IN THAT GRUELING NONSENSE WITHOUT IT. if there was someone not doping in that race.. they would be twenty miles behind and falling fast.

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

@@Daniel-yo5es This is not true! There have always been clean cyclists - even throughout the toxic 1990s/2000s...

[@Daniel-yo5es]

@@Abnsdllnnlosnfd not any that win anything. also... how would you know? everyone thought armstrong was clean.... till they didnt.

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

@@Daniel-yo5es Actually no one thought Armstrong was clean. At least no one of his competitors. Yes, casual cycling fans believed his story but people within the sport knew what was going on. On the other side there were (successful) cyclists who have been labelled "clean" by their competitors, for example Charly Mottet, Greg LeMond, Gilles Delion, Christophe Bassons etc. So the argument that everybody did it is just not valid!

[@PoliticusRex632]

@@Abnsdllnnlosnfd I don't remember the name but during Lance's run a European domestique won a transition stage of the Tour and after his win all of the peleton was celebrating it. As it turned out he was one of the few that refused doping. At least the other riders gave respect.

[@burritobandit45]

I need some epo

[@williambentzen7686]

Since fluids in space float would stomach acid float as well? If so is their a way to keep it down? I’m working on something and need a response in 2020-2030

[@williambentzen7686]

I’m watching the Astronaut farmer just a note

[@JumpingWatermelons]

AORTIC VALVE

[@andyhall7032]

all the frontrunners were doping...and he still won seven...because he was the best. like to see you take some EPO and even complete a single stage of the tour...let alone a mountain stage.

[@cyclingnerddelux698]

If Floyd Landis is a “piece of s$&#” as Lance said, what does that make Lance?

[@eunicechannel837]

At least Landis is cooking dope now legally 😀

[@Dk-xp3yx]

Armstrong is the real JR EWING.

[@theradioramires]

Lance you broke my dreams

[@waltermanhead2249]

They were broken long before you realized. Take responsibility for your own broken life.

[@MrgrayMrgray]

People want to see superhuman performances but act disgusted when they realise how it happens hahahahah.

[@mperhaps]

Here's how you can tell if you're an ignorant P.O.S. If you think Lance did ANYTHING differently than every other competitor in that race you are an iP.O.S.

[@oscar5211]

Everyone else was cheating at that time. Lance the goat beat them all.

[@TheSHAD0W93]

People respond differently to dopping. Biggest thing was how much of a bully Lance was to teammates, media, and rivals. Especially threatening teammates to dope or else.

[@HarryPNess-us2vs]

@@TheSHAD0W93 you didn't have to like Lance as a person, but you should still respect that he was the best at what he did at the time

[@TheSHAD0W93]

@@HarryPNess-us2vs i never said he wasn't. No one could touch him from 99-05 besides Ullrich in 03 when he finally showed up in 97 shape. The fact he survived cancer and came back is commendable and all he did for cancer charity. His work ethic was superb and he got his sponsors to work together to make his equipment. But without the top of the line program I don't think he would have been as good as he was during his TdF run. Others including Ullrich were more talented, Armstrong just wanted it more and had better pieces around him. All the work he did off the bike doesn't make up for what his personality is. We can't change history with hypotheticals but the notion of since everyone else was doing it makes him still the best without drugs or them all with it is false. You and I can both take EPO and blood bags and have different effects.

[@TheSHAD0W93]

@@HarryPNess-us2vs and what's even crazier is he could have got away with it if he never came back in 09-10. There would have been no investigation, nothing. His own hubris and attacking everyone was his downfall.

[@johnbarry5036]

yeah, and everyone who doped also calls the UCI to get rid of any positive test results (Lance tested positive in 99' and 01'). Also everyone else flies their dope in private jets into private airports so it doesnt get screened. Oh, also if they feel threatened, any cyclist can call the UCI to threaten any other cyclist (what Lance did to Tyler when TH almost beat him in a mountain stage). Yeah, everyone cheated like you said... but Lance just had a few extra little perks. :)

[@bajardepesorapidoerestupro8298]

Donde en español?

[@joebloggs5387]

Aprender ingles.

[@bajardepesorapidoerestupro8298]

@@joebloggs5387 puede ser

[@80srocknroller]

Lance Fraudstrong

[@BoyBlessing]

Fraudweak*

[@jamskof]

lance cellstrong

[@jamskof]

lance liestrong

[@unknownobserver7250]

Grow up son.

[@hebebendnsnen3327]

newie best comment ever lmao

[@charliebabbitt3314]

So would Lance have been a hero and would his foundation have generated 500 mil, and would he had brought hope and other valuable consideration to cancer survivors and those afflicted with the dreaded disease----So would all this have happened if Lance did like the 3% who chose not to engage in what everyone else was doing---The answer is an obvious NO....No one would have cared about Lance Armstrong, we'd never hear from him again, and he would have faded away like a nobody but hey there woulda been, I guess those others who wlda given him props for "doing the right thing." They wouldn't be hard to find either, they would be the ones finishing last.....So 0 good comes out of him competing on bread and water, except maybe a pat on back but abundance of good comes about because he did what everyone else was doing....I really don't understand the dilemma tbh.....

[@tatters1232006]

Relagated to the dustbin of history

[@coollibra3644]

I believe lebron got a lil lance Armstrong in him

[@flexbori]

He would of got caught by now

[@Rlucas198823]

STFU

[@djt8870]

@@flexbori nba dont even test.

[@mindciller]

@flex holland obviously Lebrun is on. His hair is all patchy just like Mike Tyson in his heavy ped days.

[@ChristopherX30]

@@mindciller - Black men go bald. Happened to MJ, too. Doesn't mean much.

[@RooiWillie]

Pantani - Doped. Ulrich - Doped. Armstrong - Doped. It was effectively dope and place or race for last place. Everyone is pissed at Armstrong, but others came off lightly. But, lets be real - he had skill. Dope alone won't get you 7 Tour de France jerseys.

[@remolinace]

The ones that won doped.... Bit many other cyclists did not....

[@geena8414]

I don't think anyone is "pissed" at Armstrong, but not only was he a doper, he threatened to ruin the careers and lives of people that questioned him. None of the other cheats did that

[@cigardawg]

Rudi Coetzee You are a simpleton. Please don't vote or operate machinery in public.

[@michaellittlewood3032]

The GOAT. Thank you Lance.

[@abigailandino6251]

Never even hated him for doping.

[@johnpontes812]

7 TDF in a row Lance was also the best bike handler in TDF history look how many pros have crashed out

[@davidehmann8105]

His Team was so strong, that he always was protected in the first rows of the field...but indeed, he had also a good technic in the bike

[@phililpb]

@@davidehmann8105 yes agree the doping was ot the only factor in his wins thats why it was great to watch

[@stewartisan1902]

A shame that this cheater gets more attention than front line workers who show 100 times more courage, honesty and compassion.

[@rickjohnson4887]

kinda like influencers on the internet, versus real talent, eh?

[@ns1559]

Lance has managed to give people (fans and haters) unprecedented life action and drama, controversial and interesting! All, in one way or another enjoyed the play. Just quick reminder: Contador and Valverde are still out there busting ... keeping up with best young men half their age ;-) In my opinion Lance has "served his time" for the wrong doing, and maybe he is returning again to give another insight into sport (his and Hincapie's WeDu talks about TDF are much more insightful than sports channel and commenter notes).

[@VitalMusic217]

served his time? He is still liying, hiding the truth and insultin people that exposed him.

[@joesutherland2017]

Um, Contador retired in 2017.

[@traveltm]

He says will never forgive Floyd but Floyd just told truth. Wonder if Lance hopes all those he destroyed to cover his lies or just for fun will forgive him. The things he did so much worse than “ratting”

[@deleonbenson741]

Barry bonds better get a doc

[@robertacosta6633]

He does have Sports Century espn doc 1990's Early 00's

[@matthewcarmichael5080]

Right on lance

[@YuTg-or8rc]

Hgh, trt, Adderall and epo are the common base line

[@Charlie-fu3ge]

He should have never admitted

[@gyp3xp48]

Looking at the comments, there are as many opinion's as people. At the end of the day, a bad guy gets headlines in this world and he put cycling on the map. I just feel sorry for those who didn't dope as much as he did. Sport is never a level playing field.

[@RSHekscher]

What Lance actually means is: The GOAT believes doping in cycling is part of the game.

[@drjwbriand]

anybody who really thinks lemond wasn't doping too (while dropping hinault) and otherwise will happily purchase a large bridge over waterfront property in the sahara-

[@ynwmellyupdatedeutsch5710]

Legend this man

[@spaceshido6124]

Everybody did epo at thet time so lence was the best.

[@larrymarshall8900]

Even though he doped his way through the Tour De France and lied to the world. I still forgive him for doing that.

[@cigardawg]

Well, I guess that settles it. Thank you for putting us all at ease.

[@timw4369]

doping under michele ferrari. He never trained he was told what his doping schedule would be

[@HarryPNess-us2vs]

Numerous people doped in this era so it came down to genetics & hard work whether you like it or not. For that reason, I feel like what he accomplished was still by definition, great (even if he's been stripped of everything)

[@cassidyerickson7408]

You're dumb dude.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

You say that cus hes white. What about Jon Jones??

[@ryanhale4116]

It's interesting how the sport still accepts former dopers while shunning others. Pretty selective in their outrage.

[@lm7_gio]

"there were clean athletes who did not get to have experiences (winning) because of their (athletes who were doping) actions, and i'm one of them". What a lying hypocrit. There is not 1 pro cyclist since the 50's that didnt use "illegal" methods to boost their perfomance. And he gets to stare at the camera and lie to our faces and passing judgemental on his betters, just cause he didn't get officialy caught. These people are the worst kind. Lance is still the best cyclist ever. If there were no drugs available, he would still be the best. The guy risked his cancer treatment efficiency (and therefore his life) so he could have a chance of competing IF he lived through it. I would never do that cause i value my life way more than any activity, but it was his choice, and it paid off for him. He is a f@cking legend.

[@cd66061]

Κωστής Lemond must be due sometime soon, I mean come on!!

[@Roger-tv7sf]

Everyone is on gear in the Olympics

[@phililpb]

yep and in pro boxing, mma, NFL, and even in sports like golf there is so much money in pro sports it will be corrupted

[@justtestingonce]

People just like to believe in teddy bears and unicorns. Lance decided to look at cycling for what it was during this time and decided he would be a winner and the best at it, that same mindset made him beat the cancer in his testes, lungs and brain. You may not like it but you’re living in dreamland if you think a clean rider was going to win the TDF back then.

[@mayatuck]

After watching this 30 for 30, I despise him even more.

[@bernardosanchez9303]

Lance Armstrong is the GOAT, he won against his roid contemporaries

[@VIi726]

Orrrr you could look at as those top 20 or whatever it was cheated against the other clean athletes

[@johnbarry5036]

yeah, and everyone who doped also calls the UCI to get rid of any positive test results (Lance tested positive in 99' and 01'). Also everyone else flies their dope in private jets into private airports so it doesnt get screened. Oh, also if they feel threatened, any cyclist can call the UCI to threaten any other cyclist (what Lance did to Tyler when TH almost beat him in a mountain stage). Yeah, his contemporaries had all the advantages he had.

[@mario10zeus]

90% of the riders were using EPO or other PEDs,, technically Lance is still a better cyclist. Ullrich used, EPO so did Contador, Pantani. Riise, and many others. Indurain was never caught. I think Lance's biggest problem was the he was too much of an a-hole, who didn't mind using his power to destroy others.

[@davidwalker5054]

Wish people would stop giving lance a hard time for winning all his races on drugs. When i was on drugs i could'nt even find my bike

[@jrdinero79]

Cycling is still the dirtiest sport on the planet......

[@mindciller]

I've won races and never used peds. Not on their level of course but obviously you're not gonna win the olympics or the tdf without them

[@demdjen77]

No top sport without doping. Get over it.

[@BG-fh5me]

@@mindciller yeah cause at your level doping is still rare people don't have sophisticated systems and the money for docs like Ferrari so honestly your winning is irrelevant to Lance lmao

[@workingguy6666]

Yeah, the world has some harsh lessons waiting for you, Dinero.

[@rickjohnson4887]

NOT EVEN CLOSE, powerlifting, pro and amateur and even non-competitive bodybuilding, Olympic lifting, strongman comp, want more?

[@Sir-FryDaddy]

Bonnie Ford the same as Carol Baskin

[@carussoelespanol1271]

What does Lance say in 1:32? Lance all you need is.....?

[@joesutherland2017]

"Red Cells". Red blood cells.......

[@carussoelespanol1271]

@@joesutherland2017 Thank you so much! I´m spanish i was not sure what he said

[@justinbouchard]

Yo espn. Let me watch this in Canada on demand man. I can't watch 30 for 30 in canada at all You're screwing up hard.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

It was on TSN. I can't think of any 30 for 30s that haven't been on TSN.

[@drjwbriand]

the reason they went after lance and usps/radio shack wasn't because they thought they were the only ones doping,it was because they figured out how to do it better than anyone else ever had!!!

[@cycleoflife565]

They went after all of their rivals and their teams first. Lance was protected because of his power and influence and thus so was his team.

[@drjwbriand]

@@cycleoflife565 you're absolutely right becuse the tour execs knew that lance was the best thing that had happened to the tour for a while. record viewership in the u.s. and around the world, and there's certainly a chance that trek with record sales and profits may have had their finger in the pie. there's the well known fact that the officials gave lance a mulligan when they found steroids in his pee test and allowed him to get an rx for creram to heal a "saddle sore" that likely anyone else would have been tossed.

[@NealyLL]

It’s all out there already. This stuff isn’t new. I think the only difference is that those in this excerpt haven’t spoke candidly of it before. What this is is an acknowledgement that those who were brave enough to speak out both at the time and some time ago were telling the truth. Simone and Landis to name a few. Oh how differently some people manage to poorly judge Landis yet can’t get past the hype of Armstrong. It’s a funny ole wurld.

[@JapaneseReds]

Your choice, Armstrong