Joe Burrow vs. Patrick Mahomes: Stephen A. addresses QB LEGACIES 👀 | First Take

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@IamJdTrent
@IamJdTrent Жыл бұрын
I think it's funny how the media was trying to say Josh Allen was better than Mahomes earlier this season,hyping up the next decade of Bills/Chiefs playoff duels...then Burrow just slides in and destroys that narrative.
@scottmorris5108
@scottmorris5108 Жыл бұрын
They said josh is better than both Burrow & Mahomes lol. Burrow & Mahomes are light years ahead of Allen.
@bossplayermfs5972
@bossplayermfs5972 Жыл бұрын
It’s the media what else did you expect?
@jognfong8557
@jognfong8557 Жыл бұрын
even tho Burrows and Mahomes have been in SB while Allen is slowly known for choking in the playoffs
@Fairfield34
@Fairfield34 Жыл бұрын
For some reason they keep trying to replace him. If Burrow was hurt they would say that's the only reason Chiefs win
@theholyregime7131
@theholyregime7131 Жыл бұрын
They’re all top 5. You’re arguing amongst the best of the best.
@devinmcclenton1941
@devinmcclenton1941 Жыл бұрын
They act like Mahomes plays defense, the Chiefs have the worst defense left in the playoffs what can’t these analysts see?
@DorianFr1992
@DorianFr1992 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. If the defenses were somehow even, then yeah, Burrow would be better. But Chiefs haven't had a good defense since Pat started, lol
@donarmstrong2182
@donarmstrong2182 Жыл бұрын
You are right, and to see ex players talk this nonsense is pathetic.
@DorianFr1992
@DorianFr1992 Жыл бұрын
@@donarmstrong2182 yeah, it's weird to not acknowledge defenses. When it came to Brady vs Manning, Brady had the better defense the majority of the wins
@SoulDu_Jour
@SoulDu_Jour Жыл бұрын
@@DorianFr1992 I think the ex players have up on fighting that narrative. They used to like 5 years ago then things became more QB centric in sports talk. Now they only bring up good defense to take away from a performing QB like Hurts lol
@DorianFr1992
@DorianFr1992 Жыл бұрын
@@SoulDu_Jour LOL, you know that makes perfect sense 😂
@darrylachia855
@darrylachia855 Жыл бұрын
Stephen A Smith about to host the 1993 Oscars with that suit
@thenoseknows9391
@thenoseknows9391 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😄😆😀😀😅😁
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@zachb2943
@zachb2943 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes would break every QB record there was if he had Burrow's WR corps. They also play against the defense to which the Bengals have had a better one ... Pat is better and it's not really close atm.
@manuelshaul9244
@manuelshaul9244 Жыл бұрын
Huh I'm lost didn't he have the best receiver in the league meaning tyreke and the number one tight ends.kelcey. ..what do y'all be talking about.
@ItsBobEvans
@ItsBobEvans Жыл бұрын
I guess Kelce and Hill are jobbers then lol clown
@lukaviljakainen
@lukaviljakainen Жыл бұрын
@@manuelshaul9244 Didn’t have hill this year and still had better stats
@malachiburnett9016
@malachiburnett9016 Жыл бұрын
@@manuelshaul9244and when he had hill n Kelce n hunt that’s all people talked about. Mahomes is the best QB in the league easily.
@bsmoove2357
@bsmoove2357 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsBobEvans bro joe burrow has three 1 thousand yard receivers. Also tyreek has an issue with drops bro
@DShot_202
@DShot_202 Жыл бұрын
So this game is more important to the legacy of Mahomes who has 1 Super Bowl win, 1 Super Bowl MVP, 2* Season MVPs, and 5 consecutive AFC championships since he’s started in the league. Not taking away from Burrow but he’s accomplished 2 consecutive AFC championships, with 1 AFC championship win, and everyone’s favorite stat. He’s 3-0 against the Chiefs by a total of 9 points in all the games combined. Love the math there guys, your doing a great job.
@alant9517
@alant9517 Жыл бұрын
Say it louder for the people in the back with their head in the sand
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 Жыл бұрын
He got GOAT Andy Reid who schemes people open for insane yac And elevates QBs. Chiefs could have hung 30 easily on the Jaga with Chad Henne. Reid is like a rich mans Shannahan. We seen how Shannahan elevates Purdy, Tua and Garappolo. Reid elevates QBs even mkre.
@chayimclark2270
@chayimclark2270 Жыл бұрын
@@erikpuka2627 What do that have to do with anything? Reid wasn’t a Super Bowl winner until Mahomes. So Mahomes upped Reid success.
@alant9517
@alant9517 Жыл бұрын
@damiensaidsheshungry 5 straight AFC championship appearances is not easy. Haters going to hate
@ericshyaka2587
@ericshyaka2587 Жыл бұрын
@@damiensaidsheshungry1329you act like them having a bye week was handed out to them by charity
@drizzydre2007
@drizzydre2007 Жыл бұрын
talking bout legacy when both QB's are not ever 30 years? Quick answer no.
@jfacts192
@jfacts192 Жыл бұрын
So let me get this right Marcus, Josh Allen take no blame for the loss to the Bengals? Last year everyone blame the over time rules, this year it’s injuries. Meanwhile Cincy played with 3 backup offensive linemen and manhandled the Bills at the line of scrimmage, rushing for 172 yards. Allen was anointed the best QB in the League by the media and Vegas even before the season began just because he can make great throws and run over defenders. Where was that on Sunday when they were getting blown out by the Bengals. Where were the Bills team leaders Both on Offense and Defense firing up their teammates on the sideline or in the locker room at half time to stop the bleeding? Allen still had Stefon Diggs, Gabe Davis and Dawson Knox to throw the football to. This is the NFL, any team can get beat any Sunday. It’s about how the Bills lost, to get blown out at home in the playoffs in the snow.
@damonjohnson7044
@damonjohnson7044 Жыл бұрын
To be fair if Lamar Jackson played Joe Burrow will be at home right now so I’m pretty sure they still have to worry about the ravens In the future
@just_meech28_k26
@just_meech28_k26 Жыл бұрын
They play a whole different game if Lamar in next
@kevinmoten6566
@kevinmoten6566 Жыл бұрын
@@just_meech28_k26 What do they do differently
@zackclark2265
@zackclark2265 Жыл бұрын
All I can say the NFL is so stacked in QB's this is definitely a great time to witness all of this burrow and mahomes are great but there definitely is a lot of competition going on in that position.
@KperkIns54
@KperkIns54 Жыл бұрын
It’s the offense against the defense, not the offense against the offense!! The bottom line is that this is a TEAM SPORT. This is it not golf or boxing. So the truth is that Cinncy’s defense beat the Chiefs offense. And you know the QB is part of the offense.
@arielfigueroa2122
@arielfigueroa2122 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean you can't compare the QBs. Last year Mahomes choked it with the INT in overtime. Yeah it's a team game but the QB leads the offense the ball always in their hands, so who gonna lead their team over the other. Whose not gonna make the mistake to cost the game or make the play that wins it.
@jaynorman6307
@jaynorman6307 Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen just needs better staffing around him and he’ll be ok
@JJ_2110
@JJ_2110 Жыл бұрын
Funny how they forgot that Mahomes been to back2back Super Bowls winning 1 and been to 2 in 3 seasons (not counting rookie year)🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@JJ_2110
@JJ_2110 Жыл бұрын
@@damiensaidsheshungry1329 No O line and about 100 dropped passes
@d.minicksr.1597
@d.minicksr.1597 Жыл бұрын
This is about scheming and executing, we need the offensive line to play one of it's best games ever since Mahomes isn't 100% and the defense to put Burrow on his back until he's frustrated.... We need to play them like Bmore plays them
@michaeld.lancaster4953
@michaeld.lancaster4953 Жыл бұрын
This is a definitely a legacy game for Patrick Mahomes against Joe Burrow specifically
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 Жыл бұрын
Other way around tbh. Beating KC last year in playoffs was called a fluke. Doing it 2x and winning a SB would boot Allen out of the top 2 QBs convo
@successfulusername
@successfulusername Жыл бұрын
Yes, as we remember talking about Eli beating Brady in super bowls.
@Tikitorch523
@Tikitorch523 Жыл бұрын
I guess we should just tell the rest of the Chiefs and the Benegals players to stay at home for this game. Everyone talking like it's just Patrick vs Joe on Sunday.
@dariusjohnson6013
@dariusjohnson6013 Жыл бұрын
Josh was never in their tier 😂. He’s in Jalen hurts Justin Herbert in just for consideration Tua Tagovailoa he’s in that category💯
@WW-ff9nd
@WW-ff9nd Жыл бұрын
QB head to head debates are so dumb🤦🏾‍♂️ it's not like they play defense against each other
@almightymike9484
@almightymike9484 Жыл бұрын
I swear they act like it’s basketball and the 2 star players are going one on one at the top of the key or something
@WW-ff9nd
@WW-ff9nd Жыл бұрын
@@almightymike9484 Exactly! I saw another video about Purdy outplaying Dak....Foo Purdy didn't have to play against the Niners defense
@Cmonkey752
@Cmonkey752 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes literally went to two straight super bowls in his first three years starting 🤦🏻‍♂️
@neilk11
@neilk11 Жыл бұрын
There both good quarterback the game is between the chiefs and Bengals and the better team that day will advance
@Landoees_World
@Landoees_World Жыл бұрын
I expect Chris jones to help change that narrative
@kcsniper1243
@kcsniper1243 Жыл бұрын
Burrow is in his 3rd season & Mahomes is only in his 5th. Mahomes has been to the AFC championship every year since being a starter including 2 Super Bowls. Burrow been to 2 Aftc Championship games and a Super Bowl. This is the modern Brady vs Manning rivalry. However if Burrow doesn't win this game. it will finnally get the one thing holding back Mahomes from being unanimously the best QB. Which is his loses to Burrow.
@darrellmcnair9858
@darrellmcnair9858 Жыл бұрын
Watch All 3 Previous Games, Kc's Quick Passes And Runs Are Actually What Works Against Cincy. The Extended Play Works better Against Other Teams But Not Cincy. So With A 70Percent Mahomes What Do You Think There Going To Do, Mostly Quick Passes And Runs. When Mahomes Held The Ball To Long Against Cincy Thats When Things Went Wrong. So The Lack Of Mobility May Not Be As Serious As We All Think. Now The Real Issue- Us Getting Pressure On Burrow And Guarding These Good Azz WRs. We Keep Pressure On Burrow We Will Win.
@lamakicker69
@lamakicker69 Жыл бұрын
Brady had beaten Mahomes in the AFCCG and the SB lol I’d call that a “blip”
@TheZayzay18
@TheZayzay18 Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is bengals as a TEAM is better
@markzimmer1486
@markzimmer1486 Жыл бұрын
Won back to back at Arrowhead? At BURROWHEAD!
@JavierGarcia-hd7xm
@JavierGarcia-hd7xm Жыл бұрын
😂 5 AFC championships games straight. Mahomes went to two superbowls as well, won 1. MVP 2x lol these dudes they forget quickly.
@skinydayunstar
@skinydayunstar Жыл бұрын
Its not Burrow vs Mahomes. It's Mahomes vs Cincy defense and Burrow vs Chiefs defense
@andruherford8549
@andruherford8549 Жыл бұрын
now we lost…. shannon never gets any predictions right
@baltimorexanax4472
@baltimorexanax4472 Жыл бұрын
sooo, the spotlight is on spags and his above average defense, so the players r there, but spags gameplan, is pitiful?
@electricalsociety5593
@electricalsociety5593 Жыл бұрын
Joe burrow is going to turn arrowhead into a butcher shop. I’m sorry if that hurts your ego but it’s going to happen, You will lose the Patrick price at State Farm and Allen may need to look into a backup career in the XFL, the rock needs a big name in his league after all.
@josevillalobos408
@josevillalobos408 Жыл бұрын
Yes Marucs just like Dak right. Lol...
@dionmcphail1626
@dionmcphail1626 Жыл бұрын
Even as die hard Chiefs fan there is no denying Burrow is a problem. Think Buffalo has missed their window due to Mahomes and Burrow.
@bigbromcgee7118
@bigbromcgee7118 Жыл бұрын
He may be a problem but Tom Brady put the nail in the coffin for any debate for Mahomes vs Tom Brady 😂
@UnknownRaiderGuy
@UnknownRaiderGuy Жыл бұрын
@@bigbromcgee7118 Post season Brady is 2-0 vs Chiefs
@jognfong8557
@jognfong8557 Жыл бұрын
this was like Rivers, Manning, and Brady in the AFC always remembered how Chargers always beat the Colts and everyone was anticipating Colts vs Pats every year
@jalenmackall6743
@jalenmackall6743 Жыл бұрын
@@jognfong8557 forgot Big Ben
@bravewarrior7044
@bravewarrior7044 Жыл бұрын
His defense is a problem. Quarterbacks don't play against each other. Mahomes has never had 3 #1 receivers, let mahomes switch the receiving Corp with burrow and we'll see how good he is.
@RealYungKing
@RealYungKing Жыл бұрын
Love how They keep acting like they ain’t win by 3pts each game , an as if Kelce didn’t fumble the ball last game to even make that possible lol
@jackkappel7442
@jackkappel7442 Жыл бұрын
Bengals left a lot of points on the field that game. Chiefs were thoroughly outplayed. We’ll see how this next game goes
@marcelp7059
@marcelp7059 Жыл бұрын
@@jackkappel7442 chiefs missed a FG in that game
@joshlaguardia6568
@joshlaguardia6568 Жыл бұрын
@@jackkappel7442 chiefs also left points on the board. jus saying people been acting like it’s been blowouts. i truly believe last years was rigged. i’ve never seen mahomes play that terribly up by 18 points in the second half. also some obvious missed DPIs on mike hilton on 2 separate 3rd and 8s which kept the bengals in the game in that 3rd quarter.
@thronesofgaming5240
@thronesofgaming5240 Жыл бұрын
@@jackkappel7442 you a dam lie clown ya should have got blown out we kill your defense with the run then second have andy stop running the ball he did this the last three games we played bengals.
@limitedcask7560
@limitedcask7560 Жыл бұрын
@@jackkappel7442 you didn’t watch the game I watched. 😂
@tombystander
@tombystander Жыл бұрын
As a Bengals fan this is a team sport. Both r tremendous and I hope we get 3-4 more meetings in the playoffs in the future.
@rickbrenner6079
@rickbrenner6079 Жыл бұрын
You will. The Bengals, Chiefs, & Bills are the 2020s version of the 2000s “big three”, the Patriots, Colts, & Steelers, which means for the Bills, Bengals, & Chiefs, it’s going to be wash, rinse, and repeat for the next 8 years, mark my words. And I’m not a fan of the Bills, Bengals, or Chiefs, but one has to blind or in denial to think otherwise.
@HeinousAnus95
@HeinousAnus95 Жыл бұрын
@Rick Brenner you have no idea how good it feels to hear this after suffering through andy dalton and carson palmer years. The bengals are a perennial playoff threat. The line just a year ago was they can't win a playoff game. Now it's expected. Pinch me
@luckitae7592
@luckitae7592 Жыл бұрын
The bengals gave a way better team
@NozdormusRage
@NozdormusRage Жыл бұрын
@@HeinousAnus95 Added onto those, I remember Jeff Blake, Neil O' Donnell, Akili Smith, and Jon Kitna too. Our suffering has been long standing. I'm so happy to see the Bengals be mentioned in any playoff-oriented air.
@AntEater152
@AntEater152 Жыл бұрын
It's incredible what the Bengals have accomplished. They are definitely a SB team no doubt in my mind.
@KEENANALLENASMRGLASS
@KEENANALLENASMRGLASS Жыл бұрын
Mahomes all day. Here we go sounding like the preseason. He really needs to show yall again dont he? Smdh 🤦‍♂️
@doctorgarbonzo2525
@doctorgarbonzo2525 Жыл бұрын
Both of these Championship Games look spectactular on paper
@rickbrenner6079
@rickbrenner6079 Жыл бұрын
So true. I have no idea who to pick. I’m leaning towards picking Philly because of the home field advantage, but I would not be surprised at all if SF wins. It’s the perfect story. Brock Purdy, “Mr. Irrelevant: The 7th round rookie who was literally the last pick in last year’s draft leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl.” But it’ll be tough. Philly looked on fire with Hurts back against the Giants.
@joeheasley8046
@joeheasley8046 Жыл бұрын
I agree great games. Remember cowboys looked great against the bucs. Giants aren’t good. Another thing even though both teams are better this yr. 9ers beat the eagles last yr. Brown is a huge addition but so is Mccaffrey. I don’t think it’ll be a blow out. Close game
@elliotwilkinson8784
@elliotwilkinson8784 Жыл бұрын
Agree, since I’ve been watching what is 2014 season being from UK I dont remember going into a Championship game where I think both games are coin flip games and whoever wins either end the Super Bowl feels like a coin flip too.
@doctorgarbonzo2525
@doctorgarbonzo2525 Жыл бұрын
@@elliotwilkinson8784 exciting stuff
@zy9662
@zy9662 Жыл бұрын
@@elliotwilkinson8784 Agree, first time i've seen this
@wilfredruiz8609
@wilfredruiz8609 Жыл бұрын
This gives me Peyton Vs. Brady vibes and I’m all for it!
@scottmorris5108
@scottmorris5108 Жыл бұрын
Peyton = Mahomes / Brady = burrow
@isaiahrobertson3371
@isaiahrobertson3371 Жыл бұрын
@@scottmorris5108 eh idk if joe doesn’t win a Super Bowl then it kinda doesn’t make sense for burrow to be Brady. Like if mahomes can’t beat burrow burrow never wins a ring then what. 🤷‍♂️
@jasonr.3694
@jasonr.3694 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully my team got brady
@jasonr.3694
@jasonr.3694 Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahrobertson3371 lol
@SouthJerzVillains
@SouthJerzVillains Жыл бұрын
@@scottmorris5108 atleast let burrow win something first lmao
@Rodrigo4391
@Rodrigo4391 Жыл бұрын
It's funny cause in the past mahomes play was getting downplayed for having talent around him but nobody mentions that with burrow. Nobody keeps the same energy
@detectiveharris8772
@detectiveharris8772 Жыл бұрын
Different for white guys
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
Lmao right
@takashikakashi3116
@takashikakashi3116 Жыл бұрын
mahomes had a goat te when he came in , the talent burrow had when he came in was aj green and third year tyler boyd so quit the cap
@ckmoore101
@ckmoore101 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Mahomes haters are odd. Mahomes is apparently the only QB that has a great team, and Ryan Leaf as QB would be just as good. I guess Burrow is throwing passes to himself.
@DaNewWaveLee
@DaNewWaveLee Жыл бұрын
For what ever reason Taylor’s defense is polished compared to Reid’s.
@lukaviljakainen
@lukaviljakainen Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that Keyshawn says that if Burrow wins and then he has been to two super bowls in his first three seasons as a starter and he says not many people has done that. Well Mahomes has done that. And I will give you that if Burrow wins you can talk who is the best but don’t forget that Mahomes has a MVP, will get a second one, a SB MVP and a superbowl win. Let’s see if burrow can match those in his first five season.
@wsforlife9699
@wsforlife9699 Жыл бұрын
Losing back to back championship games at home to Burrow would be a stain. 0-4 overall record. Burrow easily ascends to the throne regardless of Mahomes's MVP awards. Not to mention Mahomes played on a squad with a first-ballot HOFer HC that was 53-27 without him.
@Burl_Hurlbutt
@Burl_Hurlbutt Жыл бұрын
No one cares about MVPs if you get tossed out of the championship game every season by the same team. Are you a more valuable player for meaningless stats in the regular season, or for taking your team to the super bowl?
@bigbromcgee7118
@bigbromcgee7118 Жыл бұрын
Tom Brady did it…
@bigbromcgee7118
@bigbromcgee7118 Жыл бұрын
@@Burl_Hurlbutt exactly…is like these people swear Regular Season MVPs is somehow better than SBs 😂
@afterbangz1
@afterbangz1 Жыл бұрын
Remember what Burrow walked into vs what Mahomes was given
@anthonyburnett6183
@anthonyburnett6183 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes has a Super Bowl in his 2nd year
@Bledsoo11
@Bledsoo11 Жыл бұрын
third year. sat his first
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 Жыл бұрын
Andy Reid is GOAT coach. Chiefs would have hung 30 on the Jaga with Henne easily
@joboiwonder
@joboiwonder Жыл бұрын
@@erikpuka2627 You're drunk.
@kingwein89
@kingwein89 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Mahommes do that at Cincy the same year Burrow inherited that trash can. Not happening
@gpl2008
@gpl2008 Жыл бұрын
@@kingwein89Ja’marr, Higgins, and Mixon aren’t trash can
@withallduerespect5073
@withallduerespect5073 Жыл бұрын
people gotta understand, all the elite qbs kill the chiefs defense, whereas mahomes usually goes up against the tougher defense which is the case once again
@takashikakashi3116
@takashikakashi3116 Жыл бұрын
shouldn’t the best “qb” in the league should be able to beat a top 15 defense?
@joshuajames3453
@joshuajames3453 Жыл бұрын
@@takashikakashi3116 it's the fact that mahomes is always expected to beat greater defenses and if he doesn't then the other QB is better. If Pat Mahomes was playing against the chiefs defense last year instead of buffalos then it wouldn't have went to overtime. If Mahomes played against his own defense in the Superbowl against the bucks he wins. I get it's football nd alot of guys go up against this situation. It's still note worthy.
@NatureBoii99
@NatureBoii99 Жыл бұрын
Do they realize Quarterbacks don't play defense?
@JasenMinus
@JasenMinus Жыл бұрын
So we got Brady Manning in burrow mahomes BUT, josh could be Aaron Rodgers 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Odinson42
@Odinson42 Жыл бұрын
more like cam newton
@eternalselph
@eternalselph Жыл бұрын
Philip rivers actually. Good but no super bowl appearances. You’re welcome
@maddawg8164
@maddawg8164 Жыл бұрын
Philip rivers
@JasenMinus
@JasenMinus Жыл бұрын
@@Odinson42 nahhh he is a much better passer.
@JasenMinus
@JasenMinus Жыл бұрын
@@eternalselph thank you!
@AJ-0003
@AJ-0003 Жыл бұрын
if burrow wins the superbowl he’ll have a very similar postseason resume to mahomes first 3 starting years. convo should be Mahomes, burrow, then everybody else
@michaelkearney1313
@michaelkearney1313 Жыл бұрын
Can you stop comparing Mahomes "struggles" to Josh Allens struggles? Mahomes doesn't make flat out stupid decisions and his INTs during the regular season last year was because his receivers couldn't catch the ball, and that carried over from the Super Bowl. People look at box scores and not the actual game.
@limitedcask7560
@limitedcask7560 Жыл бұрын
Imagine mahomes with bengals weapons 😂
@peyton1458
@peyton1458 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Burrow with Andy Reid and the best TE of all time. Top 3 OL and a killer in Pacheco. Mahomes is still #1 but don’t discredit Joe because of what he has around him. He keeps winning even with injuries all year.
@RD-zx6py
@RD-zx6py Жыл бұрын
Yeah, not like PH has only ever been on top tier teams has it... Stuck with the likes of Kelce and Hill for all those years... my heart bleeds for him.
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 Жыл бұрын
@@RD-zx6py exactly i cant stand mfs that use that argument 😂
@Zach-qo7mz
@Zach-qo7mz Жыл бұрын
Lmao bro dosen’t understand what an O line is.
@kylanwoods349
@kylanwoods349 Жыл бұрын
@@peyton1458bro y’all keep saying Andy Reid where tf did Andy Reid get with Alex smith with the same weapons 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@lancehandy7487
@lancehandy7487 Жыл бұрын
Bengals got chiefs thinking they won't blitz& keep him in pocket since he better outside but they're going to blitz often test his ankle I bet.
@doctorgarbonzo2525
@doctorgarbonzo2525 Жыл бұрын
After hearing the fellas out! Amazing how just One game can make or break you?
@georgewalker81
@georgewalker81 Жыл бұрын
Okay mahomes is a super bowl winner, sb mvp , season mvp 5 straight afc championships .. and the conversation is about burrow
@zachsmith2382
@zachsmith2382 Жыл бұрын
“I don’t think anyone has gone to the Super Bowl 2 times in their first 3 years” Uh, maybe look at the guy he’s playing against’s first 3 years as a starter? Lol
@KevonDaDon
@KevonDaDon Жыл бұрын
How quickly they forget
@nideeshreddy8368
@nideeshreddy8368 Жыл бұрын
lmao i swear
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
LMAO and they call them experts smh
@nitrusxd8951
@nitrusxd8951 Жыл бұрын
Which makes it even more crazier that Brady won 3 Super Bowls in his first 4 years
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 Жыл бұрын
Or Tom Brady😎
@montraedavis2201
@montraedavis2201 Жыл бұрын
Joe is a good QB and much swagger but, they have become our rivals over the STEELERS! Who knew🤷🏽‍♀️We need Mahomes and KC team to take them downnnnnnnn....
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
Who do you support
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
@emmanuelenyinwa1443 Жыл бұрын
Notice Stephen A COMPLETELY avoids mentioning the injury to Mahomes.
@bikesnippets
@bikesnippets Жыл бұрын
Mahomes has a superbowl win, another superbowl appearance, and 4 Championship game appearances. He's about to win another League MVP, and is a First Ballot Canton guy. Unless he kills a kitten live on air after defecating in a Bengals helmet, his legacy is fine. As for the qb matchups, that sports bar talk. QBs don't play each other, they play defenses and coordinators, and need the help of the OLine and receivers.
@bsmoove2357
@bsmoove2357 Жыл бұрын
As a Mahomes fan, Patrick please win on Sunday please…..
@thenoseknows9391
@thenoseknows9391 Жыл бұрын
😆😄🤣👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
@davidmcaninch4714
@davidmcaninch4714 Жыл бұрын
Burrow, my boy, I’m pulling for you to go back to the Super Bowl. You made a believer for the Bengals out of me, and I’m 100% pulling for you to take the Bengals back and win the Vince Lombardi trophy!!!!! And if you guys win, I’ll be super excited to see what your Super Bowl championship rings would look like!!!!!
@ReoBandss
@ReoBandss Жыл бұрын
They act like Burrow is carrying a team. The Bengals roster is stacked. All he has to do is manage the game and they can win. He doesn’t need heroics.
@Jc-ql8dp
@Jc-ql8dp Жыл бұрын
Didn't the chiefs back up when mahomes went out for a couples of series march the chiefs down the field for a touchdown
@PurePain0
@PurePain0 Жыл бұрын
They were god awful until joe arrived. Then they drafted jamarr then all of a sudden free agents wanted to come play in cincy. Give joe his flowers he turned cincy up
@topboynel
@topboynel Жыл бұрын
@@PurePain0 facts Burrow turn cincy all the way up 😂😂
@doctorgarbonzo2525
@doctorgarbonzo2525 Жыл бұрын
Bills really messed up! I like Von Miller but, Bills signed him for way too much $
@n8dawgaz
@n8dawgaz Жыл бұрын
Wow I totally forgot burrow played defense 🤣
@epicharry1172
@epicharry1172 Жыл бұрын
Naw bro football is the two QBs going at it that’s the only factor to who wins a game.
@isaiahrobertson3371
@isaiahrobertson3371 Жыл бұрын
We gotta be honest burrow has the better team. Better receivers and better defense if mahomes wins then it’s more impressive
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
No question lol. That Bengals team is built to win now, Chiefs are in rebuild mode
@BengalsNation632
@BengalsNation632 Жыл бұрын
Burrow is still a good QB, went to that poverty franchise and turned them into Contenders
@dbreiden83080
@dbreiden83080 Жыл бұрын
Patrick Mahomes is playing on one leg. You have to give him a pass on this one.
@huseynmemmedli6638
@huseynmemmedli6638 Жыл бұрын
Pat had all those in just his 2nd year
@maddawg8164
@maddawg8164 Жыл бұрын
Burrow has to actually win it all this time and just beat mahomes. Narrative don't make sense
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Жыл бұрын
Lol why can’t they just be their own rivalry 😂
@rayepps9562
@rayepps9562 Жыл бұрын
Don't you watch the WNBA ? You fcukng pnuk Mothrefuckre?
@kylejay2180
@kylejay2180 Жыл бұрын
They are lol bengals and chiefs became what everyone wanted the bills and chiefs to become.
@kamaubentley3378
@kamaubentley3378 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes went to back to back Super Bowls and 2 Super Bowls in 3 years Key
@frederickwilliams6898
@frederickwilliams6898 Жыл бұрын
“One dude has been to 2 super bowls and has an mvp”
@brucecollett8663
@brucecollett8663 Жыл бұрын
JB doesn't care what any analysts say. He just plays.
@hoeelander
@hoeelander Жыл бұрын
Mahomes is a champion and sb mvp. 2x Mvp. How is his legacy on a line? Burrow hasn’t achieved any of that yet. He’s very good and 2nd best qb in my eyes. Everyone degrades these convos to qb vs qb but they never talk about how much better the bengals defense is than the chiefs. The chiefs routinely have the lesser defense in those high stakes games. Giving props to Burrow for maybe making 2 straight superbowls when Pat did the same thing and won one, but whatever lmao💀. On top of that bro is hurt, and still got here.
@terigiese1322
@terigiese1322 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they ARE 0-3 against the Bengals?I think THAT in combination with the talk that Mahomes injury could cost them the game?Has given Mahomes AND those Chiefs HUGE incentive to BURY BURROW and the Bengals!(in my humblest opinion 🙂) No way those Chiefs want to go down to them AGAIN!
@mmacwebb7306
@mmacwebb7306 Жыл бұрын
Your opinion is right. I agree with it NFL never think about fans first
@colinedelman6392
@colinedelman6392 Жыл бұрын
The bengals will win by at least 14.. AT LEAST
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
I hope you're right Teri
@ComesoonJesus
@ComesoonJesus Жыл бұрын
O give me Mahomes, while Buffalo roams, where the Buccaneers and the Cowboys can''t play, where seldom is heard an encouraging word, as Stephen A rants all day.....Mahomes, Mahomes, finds the range.....
@thenoseknows9391
@thenoseknows9391 Жыл бұрын
🤣😄😆😆😁😁😅👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@kaygokrazy3415
@kaygokrazy3415 Жыл бұрын
Until young joe wins a championship and a mvp… it ain’t close 💯
@jdocollectiblesonline
@jdocollectiblesonline Жыл бұрын
Joe still has own number (we never figured out a way to get through him)
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 Жыл бұрын
until mahomes beat him yes it is 😂
@prayas3995
@prayas3995 Жыл бұрын
It's mahomes and the rest. And I support Josh
@GALLEN-vf7uy
@GALLEN-vf7uy Жыл бұрын
His ankle is torn to ribbons, Kansas City CAN'T win ! No way.
@drexeldragon1723
@drexeldragon1723 Жыл бұрын
Keyshawn brings up Burrow potentially going to 2 bowls in 3 years as a point against Mahomes when Mahomes has literally done the same thing. If you're gonna use a talking point on TV, maybe research it first. And Stephen A. making the excuse for Burrow that he was hurt his first year is silly. They were 2-7-1 with him. They weren't going anywhere. It's not like he had a chance at the Superbowl that year too. Now, you could argue that Burrow's wins mean more because he went through "that guy" in Mahomes both times but I think that's a dumb narrative. QBs play the opposing defense. Burrow has been better specifically again the Chiefs defense than Mahomes has been specifically against the Bengals defense. But overall, Mahomes has been better and more consistent in more situations IMO. Even in his "down year" last year, he had better numbers than Burrow across the board.
@jeremywilliams6730
@jeremywilliams6730 Жыл бұрын
It sucks that Burrow gets a pass bc of his "Team" bt Mahomes played with a bad defense yr after yr even losing Tyreek Hill n still ball out n make it back to the AFC Championship. Well bad DBs I'll say.
@quentinsosa4065
@quentinsosa4065 Жыл бұрын
Guarantee chiefs 1million on them 💯💯💯💯💯🆙
@ZOZOO331
@ZOZOO331 Жыл бұрын
Good thing there delusional takes are only opinions. SAS is in pure denial. They speak as if it's up to them to decide how great someone's Legacy is. We all have opinions but this is just a dumb take.
@WizardBallLikeDamianLillard
@WizardBallLikeDamianLillard Жыл бұрын
I want Chiefs to win cause Patrick Mahomes is my favourite QB but my money is on Bengals
@DylanH02
@DylanH02 Жыл бұрын
They act like he casually got hurt his first year. He blew out his acl mcl came back to a superbowl appearance and now another conference championship game back to back years like hes the dark knight
@benjiman7259
@benjiman7259 Жыл бұрын
Allen really played his way out of being in this conversation. After week 1, he looked like the second coming of Cam Newton with less wear and tear. I think people forget how unstoppable Cam was in his MVP season, and Allen looked like he could replicate that but in a more sustainable fashion. Then the turnovers hit. He made it obvious that when he got irritated, he was going to start acting more like prime Jameis than prime Cam. In those tight games, unlike the Allen we saw barely lose out to the Chiefs in last year’s divisional round due to some problematic overtime rules, he became a game losing machine. Turnover after turnover, he lead the league with 30 combined turnovers this year. While I love Joe Burrow, he didn’t have to do much to beat the Bills. Allen did this to himself.
@Nappyboy0805
@Nappyboy0805 Жыл бұрын
Josh "Mid" Allen
@thomassankara1391
@thomassankara1391 Жыл бұрын
Lol none of Allen's game is sustainable. He's a value village Cam Newton, just because he's white his reckless running is now sustainable? lol
@inefzi
@inefzi Жыл бұрын
Do not compare Josh Allen to MVP Cam Newton... our receiving core was mediocre to what the bills have and he still got us to the Super Bowl
@DRMZ37
@DRMZ37 Жыл бұрын
This reminds of when Lamar Jackson couldn't beat Mahomes and then he finally got a win over Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's crazy that Mahomes has his as they like to call it "kryptonite" in Burrow. Can't wait for the game to be played!!
@geraldhillard2146
@geraldhillard2146 Жыл бұрын
How quickly these guys turn on you... all I heard was Josh Allen all year..
@eternalselph
@eternalselph Жыл бұрын
Josh Allen is Phillip rivers 2.0
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 Жыл бұрын
thats what happens when u lose in the divisional again you update your opinion with new data thats how being a proper analyst works 😂
@LilRod2
@LilRod2 Жыл бұрын
Yea bengals are a better team than the chiefs so now burrow is better than mahomes ? Like cmon man
@yengvang8737
@yengvang8737 Жыл бұрын
This is like Peyton Manning vs Tom Brady. Brady overall got more wins against Manning than losing. However, Manning does got some good wins against Brady.
@lifeforms7423
@lifeforms7423 Жыл бұрын
So if this is Burrow vs Mahomes, instead of the Chiefs vs the Bengals, we need to bring up the fact Mahomes has won 2 MVPs, has thrown for over 5k yards two out of five seasons, has hosted 5 straight AFC title games, been to 2 SBs and won 1 of them, WITH a SB MVP. If Burrow beats Mahomes but then loses in the SB again, and doesn’t win MVP next season, where does that put him? That’s why these debates are ridiculous.
@marcus3490
@marcus3490 Жыл бұрын
Burrow surpassed Allen last year.... people forget burrow has been on fire since his last year at LSU ..the Bengals were 7-4 his rookie season before he got hurt his rookie season...once he found his groove it was trouble... Mahomes is still the best but burrow is right there... burrow wins this weekend he's 1a for me
@alexxtrippi333
@alexxtrippi333 Жыл бұрын
bengals were not 7-4 burrows rookie year. they were 2-7-1
@donnyjames8409
@donnyjames8409 Жыл бұрын
@@alexxtrippi333 Dude wasn't even mistaken, he just straight up lied 🤣🤣🤣
@alexxtrippi333
@alexxtrippi333 Жыл бұрын
@@donnyjames8409 i think he got his rookie season mixed up with last year possibly.. i think they were 7-4 at one point last year.
@alexxtrippi333
@alexxtrippi333 Жыл бұрын
i am glad they weren’t that good his rookie year tho. if burrow never got hurt. Cincy probably wins at least a couple more games that year.. and they probably don’t get Ja’Marr Chase. They absolutely don’t even get close to the super bowl last season or this season, maybe never. Funny how the worst things that happened to the bengals the past 3-4 years ended up being the best things that could happen for them at the same time. going 2-14 in 2019 was the greatest thing they ever did lol
@kungfoomonkey
@kungfoomonkey Жыл бұрын
Bengals over Chiefs by 2 scores..... tough week for Mahomes against Bengals.
@z32twinturbo13
@z32twinturbo13 Жыл бұрын
I’m afraid against the bengals. But I’m ready
@War_Maker
@War_Maker Жыл бұрын
Ok so Eli is better than Brady, got it.
@manuelshaul9244
@manuelshaul9244 Жыл бұрын
You not making no sense .this different. Patrick mahomes 6 afc championship two Superbowl appearance lost one. That's excellence. Burrows two full seasons two afc championship. One Superbowl appearance .beat mahomes 3x. And now slam buffalo. All mahomes has on burrows is he's been in the league longer
@TDR-0484
@TDR-0484 Жыл бұрын
@@manuelshaul9244 and 2 MVPs lol
@lukaviljakainen
@lukaviljakainen Жыл бұрын
@@TDR-0484 Yeah he seems to have forgotten to list those. They seem pretty important to me
@War_Maker
@War_Maker Жыл бұрын
@@manuelshaul9244 Where's Burrow SB ring and 2x MVP titles?
@persistentlypathetic6820
@persistentlypathetic6820 Жыл бұрын
Not a rivalry if one team has won all the match ups.
@williamwright7892
@williamwright7892 Жыл бұрын
Ah reality is finally starting to kick in. No. Allen is not in the same league as Mahomes or Burrow. Allen is the QB, that can look great in the regular season, is on a stacked team, yet they never do anything special come the playoffs. This season they went into the playoffs with the 2nd best offense, and the 6th best defense and what did they do? The lost at home to the Bengals 27-10 in which the Bengals had the 8th best offense and the 16th best defense. Now yes, their defense was injured, but their offense (2nd best in the league) only could put up 10 points. What a joke. Last year, Bills had the 5th best offense, and the best defense in the league compared to the Chiefs who had the 3rd best offense and the 27th ranked defense, and they lost to the Chiefs 42-36. Then there is 2 years ago, where they lost to KC in the AFC Championship game 38-24 in which the Bills had the 2nd best offense, and the 14th best defense (this season their defense was meh, so some slack there) compared to the Chiefs who had the top ranked offense and the 16th best defense. The last 2 years in particular so many people have hyped the Bills up to be the best in the AFC, that they will beat the Chiefs and are the best of the best, yet not once have they truly come that close to doing this. Looking at how well their offense and defense have typically ranked, in just about every game they lose in the playoffs, they should have been able to win, yet they don't. Bills are quickly becoming a regular season paper team. What I mean is that they do good in the regular season, look great on paper, and get all the hype, but when the big games come round, they flop. Don't want to hear no more Bills hype, not after a 3rd disappointing year in the playoffs. Bengals and Chiefs run the AFC.
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
Wooow. You've really done your homework on the Bills lmao
@Pimula.Tsuchimi
@Pimula.Tsuchimi Жыл бұрын
The bengals are a more complete team there's no way the chiefs are gonna be able to keep up with them
@anthonyburnett6183
@anthonyburnett6183 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes did it in 3 seasons
@rez_gs41
@rez_gs41 Жыл бұрын
Big Ben did it in 2
@jeremyrobinson7919
@jeremyrobinson7919 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes loses again and I'm going to be back to see yall ... Winter has arrivedand the North Remembers ...
@andrewvanhalen1984
@andrewvanhalen1984 Жыл бұрын
You were saying, chief?
@hobo9945
@hobo9945 Жыл бұрын
DOES LAMAR JACKSON NOT EXIST 💀😭😑
@dannanderson8333
@dannanderson8333 Жыл бұрын
Both manning brothers have a winning record against Brady but Brady is still the goat QB by a mile
@lamurcribb1222
@lamurcribb1222 Жыл бұрын
What’s Peyton’s record against Brady?
@manuelshaul9244
@manuelshaul9244 Жыл бұрын
But mahomes not leasing burrows by a mile. If burrows wins he would have.beatem the chiefs twice in the afc championship. And have two Superbowl appearances in a row.
@jdocollectiblesonline
@jdocollectiblesonline Жыл бұрын
@@manuelshaul9244 Chiefs still haven’t figured out a way to defeat Burrow and Bengals (in playoffs or regular season)
@TDR-0484
@TDR-0484 Жыл бұрын
@Manuel Shaul mahomes also went to 2 SB in a row and now 5 championships...
@dannanderson8333
@dannanderson8333 Жыл бұрын
@@lamurcribb1222 I am talking about playoffs which Peyton leads Brady 3-2 Eli is 2 - 0 vs Brady in the Superbowl
@gav4331
@gav4331 Жыл бұрын
does Keyshawn Johnson forget football is a team sport
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
They all do
@nickJd95
@nickJd95 Жыл бұрын
I understand the argument but Burrow has to get a ring though before we can crown him.
@CSmoothh
@CSmoothh Жыл бұрын
Both of these qbs so young in their careers that I don't think the result of the game is that big of deal either way.
@dominicharris5489
@dominicharris5489 Жыл бұрын
Keyshawn looks at football horribly
@kungfoomonkey
@kungfoomonkey Жыл бұрын
Burrow is a robot.... The Terminator
@walkingnyc1
@walkingnyc1 Жыл бұрын
I am from KC and this offense is not about Mahomes... This is the Kelce Show! Give Burrow Kelce and he is unstoppable! Take him from Mahomes and KC struggles to make playoffs...
@vickjr98
@vickjr98 Жыл бұрын
To be fair Burrow doesn't need Kelce given the crazy weapons he has
@walkingnyc1
@walkingnyc1 Жыл бұрын
@@vickjr98 You are correct! They even out.. I just think Kelce is a Fantasy Football 1st Round Pick! He changes the entire dynamic of the defense.
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