🚨 UNDERAPPRECIATED?! 🚨 Cam Newton addresses Lamar Jackson-Michael Vick comparisons | First Take

[@CharkimJoseph]

imagine if Josh Allen had 40 Tds 5 ints and beat Lamar Jackson head to head....they woulda gave him the MVP trophy week 14

[@Leacythegreat43]

Speaaaaak

[@1684-v9q]

Oh my word why do people act like Lamar is this underrated and under appreciated player lol the guy has 2 MVP and he's already a hall of famer why do you talk like there's an agenda against him they game him a weak MVP last year

[@joshuaokparaocha331]

It’s funny cause they already did try to give him the MVP in week 14

[@ssansportsshowaboutnothing5213]

FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cameronbolden5064]

@@1684-v9q because the numbers aren't even close but they have the guy with worse numbers as the favorite.

[@jeremiahw1369]

Lamar Jackson not only broke Mike Vick's rushing record this year, he also has a higher passing rating than Peyton Manning ever had in any of his 5 mvp seasons. This is historical already. The youngest 2x mvp is treated like an underachieving loser at 27 years old.

[@ezekwu]

exactly...

[@EricKearneyMusic]

Do you need a tissue? 😢 😆

[@junemcneal2588]

sUre you don't need some, bein' that you don't have A life An All🥹😆😆😆😆😭​@@EricKearneyMusic

[@JerZ_Grape17nOX]

@@EricKearneyMusicdo you need a pimp slap 👋🏿?

[@newagain9964]

@@EricKearneyMusicLamar GOATED and would go to HOF if retiring rn. Have fun.

[@210benchbro2]

When she said “every thing that Dogged Michael Vick” I burst out laughing. Read the room lady lol.

[@SouthsideSox007]

I thought the same thing. Poor choice of words at the moment lol

[@camilliondavis4160]

Killed me😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dalonzolong7115]

She definitely dropped a sneak diss..

[@tredawg4847]

@@SouthsideSox007Nobody cares anymore

[@mr.penguin4614]

perfect choice of words.

[@ravensfan2380]

This was by far the BEST MVP conversation I’ve heard. Give both guys their flowers. Josh is having an amazing season & any other year might just be the MVP. However Lamar is having an historically great season & that has ALWAYS been rewarded with the MVP at the QB position.

[@bobdude7490]

Kinda like the heisman conversation!

[@henryjohnson5956]

Well said

[@MikkiChavez]

Josh isn't having an amazing season at all. The Bills are. Josh's stats aren't amazing at all

[@discodrip3097]

2:28 didn’t have to mention the jail time but go off

[@lightsout49]

Right that was diabolical fr fr

[@SociallyBrandedMedia]

No doubt, it was shade for sure, but it was a real factor in the pause in Vick's career. I've met #7 many times, and he will humbly admit that for better or worse, "it" was a major factor in what his career could have really been for real real 🤔

[@Odhran2017]

Josh Allen ain’t win 2 mvps and drop of Drastically in the playoffs she tryna make it a race argument In

[@GoBeantowm]

She said multiple unnecessary things

[@buckleft2317]

For sure you do. It’s part of his story. Doesn’t just say something negative. Shows growth and people can change

[@slimmike56]

When Vick came back & started with Philly he was def having an MVP calibur year

[@dfwherbie8814]

Love Vick but he didn’t have 300 lbers running a 4:4 collapsing in on him

[@Avg_Vet]

True. Washington fans could tell you that.

[@sir404]

I just told somebody that

[@thefrostyvette876]

@@dfwherbie8814stop it.

[@dfwherbie8814]

@@thefrostyvette876 where did I lie?

[@brettthomas6327]

Cam is finally getting the credit for revolutioning the position

[@treneshaclark4643]

Amen!!🎉

[@stanleysanchez2898]

Michael Vick did that not Cam

[@brettthomas6327]

@@stanleysanchez2898 Cam was an MVP and took his team to a super bowl with weak offensive weapons. Cam put his body on the line for years. Mike Vick is great but his prison time hurt him in his later yrs. He was good with Andy Reid for about two yrs.

[@micah.1009]

Facts he is the reason I got into NCAA football

[@o7oMillz]

@@brettthomas6327excellent point.

[@NAB777]

“Dogged” Michael Vick is WILD!!!

[@RAJ_E3]

🐕 💀

[@beansnrrice]

Nah she was trolling fasho 🤣

[@Zarkmoneybags]

Michael vick as coach: I need players that got that dog in them Players: 😳😧😳

[@problak202]

😂😂😂

[@MANVWI]

@@Zarkmoneybags Diabolical!!! Turn your phone off bruh!

[@officialsonic1]

he did this in 102 games 😱😱😱😱

[@micah.1009]

He might have 10k rush yards in 5-6 years that's crazy 🔥

[@risenconquer6903]

Even more impressive, consider just how many games was he sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter.

[@varsityva943]

Imagine if he played in the fourth quarter of most of those games

[@palindrome1023]

Had he not been injured in 2021 and 2022, he’d probably be near 7,000 already

[@freshxxloud449]

​@@micah.1009vick did it when defenses cukd hit QB

[@leviathanskye]

Lamar has put up those numbers against the 3rd ranked SOS, while Josh Allen has put up his numbers against the 21st ranked SOS. Not to mention, that before the season a significant portion of sports analysts also said Baltimore would miss the playoffs; even going as far as to say Derrick Henry was an aging superstar that probably would take a significant step back. There was doubt on both these teams entering the season, but when you have one of the toughest schedules and you still lead the league in most statistical categories; that has to equal MVP.

[@OBPMA]

Add in most rankings & tier lists by writers/GMs/media pundits before the season had Lamar ranked behind Allen, Burrow & Herbert 😂 It's a mix between underappreciated & disrespected.

[@brainoverbrawn3404]

Yep, they said losing 3-starters on O-line and the departure of multiple coaches would be too much to overcome. They said the emotional letdown of losing last year's AFCG would be hard to bounce back from.

[@sprawlz6466]

Strength of schedule and strength of opposing defenses is not the same thing. Playing the Bengals twice would boost anyone’s stats.

[@ezekwu]

facts...

[@notsupreme1878]

⁠@@sprawlz6466and playing the jets dolphins and patriots multiple times In a year wouldn’t boost stats either josh Allen in second worse division in football give Lamar his schedule MVP wouldn’t be a debate

[@joesmith1544]

I like the fact that Lamar put in the work to be the best player in the league. He was not welcomed with open arms and embraced by some general managers and scouts. The doubts by the media establishment. Yet in spite of all of these negatives, Lamar never let these things change who he is as a quarterback but more importantly as a kind person. A true traliblazer!

[@piplonf8591]

Yawn he need to make some noise in the playoffs ravens get hyped every year just for them to disappoint when it actually matters they only beat a rookie cj stroud last years playoff

[@wook1990]

​@@piplonf8591*yawn* You need to learn how not to be salty and hateful. It's bad for you.

[@Lidogz]

Don’t forget that he has his mother as his agent and not some man who is part of the establishment they didn’t like that at all

[@johnhancock1362]

He has always been against the odds and is great. Never thought he could excel as a passer but he’s great there too. Best player? No. Top 3 yes. I’d say 2.

[@Ade-uw2jb]

​@piplonf8591 Why do you guys like changing goal posts every time when it comes to Lamar? "only beat rookie QB"

[@emmanuelprice9539]

Ryan Clark led a segment this year saying Jayden Daniels was a better passer than Lamar this season!!! Lol man they are wild.

[@nonya6022]

Yeah, they are off the charts some times. Thr crazy thing is he could have made that statement 100% and not even Ravens fans would have disagreed. If he had said JD was a better passer as a rookie than LJ was at the same point in his career. It would have been 100% facts but they always gotta go for viral moment with the rage bait takes. Now he's lost credibility because that is a freezing cold take.

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol Ryan always been a clown

[@brainoverbrawn3404]

They all partake in the Lamar slander, then turn around and pretend like they don't know what they did. Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe both said Lamar was not worth his contract with the Ravens, they've never said that about any other of these current QBs. Coming into the season, they said the Ravens would fall off because of a decimated O-line and multiple coaches lost, now they wouldn't mention any of those things that Lamar has overcome.

[@taebuford]

he is time will show lamar is a better qb right now though !

[@gregthegoatostertag8579]

Mf’ers need start realizing the game is easier when your team is stacked 😂 Jayden’s team sucks

[@josephwatson7713]

Man I love Fridays when cam come on the show I swear to god 😭

[@turkeysandwich7179]

Lamar is definitely under appreciated. 2 years ago the Raven made him available to every team and no team made him an offer.

[@miamimercenary9623]

context matters. no team made an offer because the Ravens could match it and obviously they would’ve. so then you end up in a Cleveland situation where you have a decent QB but tell him eff you we want another guy but then don’t get the other guy. you think your current QB wants to stick around after that bs?? no. Lamar wasn’t unrestricted. stop being disingenuous and tell the whole story

[@stevejohnson7026]

​@@miamimercenary9623Spot on comments!

[@RMMomma4Eva]

That's because Biscotti obviously called up every other owner and told them he would personally cut their ____ off if they even breathed in 8's direction 😂 And paid him.

[@DarrylReese715]

And I love how he followed it up with an MVP season. Amazing.

[@thefrostyvette876]

@@miamimercenary9623so make the offer and see what happens.

[@teddywestside6029]

2:44 What did she mean when she said: Everything that “dogged” Mike Vick??

[@justacoolguy336]

Willie Lynch syndrome

[@Shiloh_Shepherd]

She meant he’s a terrible person

[@Ishmaelgaynor]

All the criticism he faced HIS WHOLE CAREER!

[@thegoodbrothersifu]

@@Shiloh_Shepherd LOL

[@InsaneTrickShots]

She brought up jail time and talked about dogged.. she dirty

[@georgecail5653]

Cam and RC need their own show

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol we know Elle Duncan likes to take personal shots at athletes like all of espn employees

[@lestergarcia247]

🙏 she always does this; makes me wonder how many of them overlook her and she’s bitter?

[@JerZ_Grape17nOX]

I mean Malika Andrews might tell you to hold her beer 🍺

[@Avg_Vet]

Naw Elle is well know an respected in Atlanta for the work she did. She gets a pass when it comes to stuff like this. Don't put her in the Malika Andrew's category.

[@tigerhoods7927]

@@lestergarcia247 yeah she really is

[@tigerhoods7927]

@@JerZ_Grape17nOX lol they both are terrible

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

Back to back MVP is insane. That’s why Lamar needs this MVP

[@risenconquer6903]

1 vote shy of 2x unanimous MVP. Thanks to FTNFantasy's Aaron Schatz. He actually said "He (Lamar) had a great season. He's a very good quarterback. I simply do not believe he was the best quarterback in the NFL this year, even though he led the best team." Now that the stats reveal Lamar to the best quarterback in the NFL this year (2024), I look forward to seeing Mr. Schatz's vote or maybe he'll simply find a different excuse to vote for Josh Allen.

[@miamimercenary9623]

he better win SB MVP too or he‘ll be crucified every single year til he wins. A three time MVP that’s never even been to the SB? yeah that noise will be real loud

[@stevejohnson7026]

​@@risenconquer6903By your logic Josh Allen should win this year. Josh has a better record.

[@Rizzler9017]

@@stevejohnson7026#1 seed

[@albertwilliams3713]

Lamar needs to win. Period.

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

She KNEW what she was doing….i don’t even gotta refer to what i mean, when u know…ya know

[@shelbywarburton5387]

Yeah I know too

[@NickHolasss]

smh

[@Godwin420]

She's one of the most undeserving _unts we've seen in a while. Nasty. Low character. Zero integrity. Basically those lips have been working overtime a variety of ways. =/

[@candilubk]

That's why she had to say it. Bc ppl act like it's wrong to bring up legit crimes rich ppl commit. Moving on isn't the same as erasing history

[@jamesfranko6985]

Is the charges mention really necessary?!

[@meechie5797]

Like sheesh

[@Jrmy.93]

Shows a lack of journalistic skill

[@maxbfit]

I said the same thing. Subtle shade.

[@kevothegoat9891]

It is apart of Mike story man everyone knows

[@LifeGuardOnBooty]

Reading the room is clearly something not everyone is capable of doing smh

[@dakotasunday8996]

I hate that people can’t just accept records being broken . Lamar jackson is the man .

[@Shot4ShotSports]

Elle Duncan think she slick with that “Dogged” comment 😂

[@variedybills1727]

Lamar had a harder schedule by 10 fold , Lamar leads in every stat but rushing tds and record . Tucker makes his kicks and Lamar is 15-1 and josh isn’t even in the conversation . You guys want him to play defense on top of him being the most perfect passer in the league (sound crazy ? LOOK IT UP) . Lamar is held to a way higher standard than anybody else every year because of his athletic abilities people . Dude did everything yall said he couldn’t do the years prior . You do realize the guy who “struggled” with passing is now throwing better and more accurately than Patrick mahomes. This is voter fatigue, Jayden Daniel’s puts up these same stats and he is winning ROTY and MVP so why not Lamar?

[@teamus4249]

Please make them aware

[@DevinWilliams-i3f]

They keep bringing up Joe Burrow like the Ravens Defense wasn’t worse through 11 weeks if Joe Burrow getting in the playoffs makes him an mvp candidate then Lamar should be unanimous with his defense and Tucker through 11 weeks

[@BRockin25]

Burrows career is significantly worse than Jalen Hurts but Hurts never gets mentioned

[@lennybeason1110]

Facts!

[@StudentOfLife365]

Exactly!!!

[@tayboog6837]

@@BRockin25right but we know why that’s the case it’s a race thing with this sport podcast owners they want the narrative to be white QB will always be better then the black QBs it’s obvious don’t no other black QB gets excuses when they defense fails them or the receivers fails them or the offense of line is trash look how they did Justin fields with the bears dude can throw but he didn’t have any time in the pocket but them blamed him for the losses they will miss all these guys when they retire watch just like LeBron James once he retire the NBA fans will be sad that he retired and we won’t see him play anymore

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

Burrow is mentioned because will increase the chances for Josh Allen getting elected

[@rvoltaire2786]

Cam Newton on first take is gold

[@iReply2Dummies]

Just last year a mf said that man wasn't "quarterbacky" enough. And people still claim he can't throw. He's certainly hated on and unappreciated as a talent. Just because he won MVPs doesn't mean people don't blind themselves from his greatness all from how much they hated on him coming into the league

[@brainoverbrawn3404]

Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe even said Lamar wasn't worth his contract smh.

[@sprawlz6466]

He struggles with certain passes but he continues to improve. Also he’s not under appreciated in the slightest 😂 cut it out

[@iReply2Dummies]

@@sprawlz6466 you sound ridiculous if you sit here and say that people aren't blind to his talent and don't appreciate his greatness out of hate. Saying that he can't throw, he'll never win, and putting him outside of the top 5 QBs. That's under appreciation. If they appreciated his talents they'd be in awe of every game he plays instead of saying they don't care about the regular season when it comes to him LeBron is even unappreciated because most people have spent most their lives hating on that man just because he was compared to their favorite player. That is absolutely a thing. And if you can't understand that then that's a you problem

[@marckusduverger9776]

@iReply2Dummies: I agree that some hold onto their past narratives for Lamar because of how he looked when he started & his playoff woes. Lamar continues to grow every year though, his growth is insane. He can make every pass in the game right now I feel like, when he won his first MVP he had some struggles thowing the ball outside the numbers as he would often throw to the inside shoulder of his receivers & that’s how the Corners would pick the ball. He’s insanely good right now, where I’ll disagree with you though is that VERY few people have had Lamar outside of the top 5 & it’s probably been years since they have. The common consensus Top 4 is dang near agreed upon as Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, & Burrow. The main thing that changes is the order they put them in & 5 goes to whomever they want to give praise to.

[@sprawlz6466]

@@iReply2Dummies bro it’s a fact that he struggles with certain passes. Everyone has a flaw in their game. Lamar struggles with timing routes and deep outs/corner routes. He’s been much better at the timing throws this year though. And Lamar gets left out of the top 5 sometimes strictly because of his playoff performances. And honestly I value playoff performance over everything else too

[@tjones2991]

Imagine prime vick with an Andy Reid his whole career

[@princenas1412]

2 rings off the bat easy

[@MarvinLane0221]

Look at life with intense realism. Stop imagining.

[@DD-rk6kn]

vick played with anyd reid. vick was still somewhat in his prime at that point stop it. andy reid operates better with pocket qbs like mahomes and burrow. he not the rpo specialist

[@MikkiChavez]

​@@princenas1412 you don't know that. Vick isn't clutch or a great processor with coverage. Ppl be overdoing it bout Vick lol that was my guy but y'all just don't remember

[@HoopsKevinski.]

*MVP really a team award.* RC upset "They gave Kobe's MVP to Nash" (for leading in 1 stat) but Wade beat Kobe & LeBron in 4 of 5 stats! (They gave it to LJ, Kobe 2nd) *But on a bad team... that Wade still kept at 5th in East.*

[@taffytuck1910]

Vick in madden mobile was crazy work

[@smallhouseproduction2205]

You a g

[@RatchetRab]

She just showed that no matter what you do and accomplish in life, people will bring up your past whether relevant or not.

[@757-David]

All blk cast saying the blk QB should win the MVP because of his race. ESPN is wild

[@fulcrumsee5968]

She was throwing shade at Vick at every opportunity

[@stevenQ45]

That "Friday" reference in Unison though.! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@acm0045]

2:42 Everything that dogged Mike Vick? Pun intended? I understand the saying, but I've never heard that saying verbatim before. So I say Suspect. Also, observe Can Newton's pause before he realizes it has nothing to do with dogs. Once he realizes, he relaxes and was ready to continue the convo.

[@rodrichforever5000]

I wish somebody Called that out

[@ppploans]

Tasteless

[@nebulousbastrd]

😭😭

[@oaktree1626]

Definitely intended.

[@ginjarh9070]

😂😂

[@Shot4ShotSports]

Ryan Clark said it perfectly

[@deionjones24]

Elle terrible choice of words 😂

[@jamesrobinson-007]

RC went off his insights are spot on!

[@yusiyola2011]

They say it’s ESPN policy to bring up the criminal record of every athlete whenever praise is due for something completely unrelated.

[@discodrip3097]

4:32 Ryan said no Stephen A no suit.

[@uncleclark]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 this funny

[@CallmeLQ]

Lamar isn't underappreciated he's the most hated. The goal post always moves when people want to praise him. No matter who they compare him to. He will be applauded when he retires and be looked back on greatly, but even if he wins a Super Bowl the goal post will be moved to make the season look weak or make him seem inferior to another QB when he's been amazing most of his career. Social media has ruined a love for athletes without a drove of haters coming to bring them back down. It happens in all sports though, there's always one.

[@Peace-wl9pt]

Why would you say that about Vick back ground smh it's sad what we do to each other

[@LuhvRaynell_NFLEnthusiast]

🎯🎯🎯

[@Shiloh_Shepherd]

Because he’s an awful person

[@LetsBeReal-tr7wt]

Its ESPN policy

[@sidneyhill7834]

​@@Shiloh_Shepherdwhat about your ancestors and this nation to blacks

[@tayboog6837]

@@Shiloh_Shepherd lol we can tell what type of guy you is from your comment and your profile picture get a life !

[@Himothy704]

Lamar is the best QB we have ever seen. He is the best footballer we have ever seen.

[@ezekwu]

facts...

[@sheltonamaram646]

Laughable take 😂

[@miamimercenary9623]

what drugs are you on?

[@stevejohnson7026]

Best quarterback to never even play in a Super Bowl, maybe. In the playoffs with the game on the line, are you taking Lamar over Patrick? Are you taking him over Josh. To just say Lamar is the GOAT is ridiculous. So I guess Lamar is better than Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Manning, Brees, etc. I find your comments to be a great example of your generation of fans.

[@Godwin420]

LOL! He is the most brittle bish at that position we have ever seen. He is the best weak mental QB in every single postseason until the day comes he learns to not be. Hurt or suck? Every time. Earned until he learns to not suck in the playoffs.

[@174mars]

RC snapped with that speech

[@camilliondavis4160]

"Everything that dogged mike vick" 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Godwin420]

Disgusting people like you are way that wench is barely clinging on to her undeserved job. When shockvalue people of no character are rewarded by similar-brained fans like you... get some integrity.

[@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC]

GREAT show people!! ALWAYS love hearing about the Michael Vick experience... If you weren't there, then you don't know Have a blessed New Year everybody! GO RAVEN'S FLOCK! 👿🤜🏿💪🏿✊🏿🙏🏿

[@Datboijerm10]

Mv3 coming for lamar

[@lifevybes9459]

one of the best segments ive seen on espn in a long time. I literally listened start to finish, fully engaged.

[@linettejones]

Lamar is making history we get to watch it live. He will be the best quarterback gets better every year

[@marckusduverger9776]

He really does get better every year, it’s crazy! I remember there was a saying “you can’t teach accuracy” but Lamar is showing that you clearly can, Jalen Hurts has shown that too. Lamar is an incredibly hard worker, his growth is just crazy. This is the best we’ve ever seen him, a 2xMVP which is crazy

[@MJreacts2K]

“Finessing and juggin is a real profession in Atlanta” Facts! 😂

[@whizdaum4757]

Facts!

[@Danny-v7t]

Take that lady off the show or limit her having an opinion tbh why she bringing in past charges and uses poor choice of words.

[@tigerhoods7927]

She’s a clown who like to take personal attacks at athletes

[@whizdaum4757]

Facts

[@charleshouston3931]

I thinks she’s just brought them up is because Vick would’ve had a lot more yards if not for the time he missed

[@nserekoraymond8593]

Ryan Clark is so wise. Nice analysis 👍

[@Oceanz08]

Saying Lamar and Vick are on the same level is laughable.

[@bigshadowfocus7888]

Lamar is better and he don’t fight dogs

[@OBPMA]

Vick said himself Lamar better than him 😂 Are you gonna argue w Vick on that?

[@sidneyhill7834]

​@@bigshadowfocus7888how many skeletons in your closet

[@sprawlz6466]

Lamar is way better lol. Vick was such a unique and fun player to watch that people forget how mediocre he actually was

[@hodgedamanager71]

Perfect statement from RC!!

[@DJATLphilly]

Everything that dogged Michael Vick Is insane wording 😭😭

[@PLANETQXCIM]

No matter what an player accomplishes it’s back to championships

[@treneshaclark4643]

The bottom line of playing is to make money and win championships.

[@Josh-y7g]

See how ESPN lies, closest person to him is Josh Allen😂😂 graphic literally just showed Russel Wilson 4th on that list with over 5 Thousand rushing yards yards

[@DarrylReese715]

Thank you!

[@ScorpioKing81]

I was just thinking this. Like where she get that from & Allen ain’t even shown on the list they posted.

[@Josh-y7g]

@@ScorpioKing81 crazy that’s exactly why everyone has to watch the games their selves and do their own research or you will be lied to right to your face!

[@ScorpioKing81]

@ exactly. They didn’t even mention Russell Wilson @ all. Disrespecting the man like that.

[@tajmoultrie3045]

They said Cam couldn't pass the ball coming out of college. First four games of his NFL career he passed for over 400 yards. One of those games against the patriots and Tom Brady. 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@stevejohnson7026]

In 6 playoff games, Lamar is 2-4 with 6 tds and 12 turnovers. My guy is 15-3 in the playoffs. These are actual facts and can not be ignored. Playoffs are where all time greats shine. Aaron Rodgers has 4 MVPS but only won 1 SB. His playoff record is 11-10. The playoffs are the test of greatness. The numbers I stated are undeniable. I have never seen a fan base who cares so much about regular season awards.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

The problem with your argument is performance in the playoffs is irrelevant to the MVP, it's based SOLELY on the regular season..

[@breadwinnerprime]

Monica back 💪🏾😤‼️

[@b.waynepresents2992]

I thought SAS cancelled her lol

[@discodrip3097]

He sent her to some kinda off brand reporting. He told Kim the other day “last time you disagreed with me you were in the cold on the sidelines.” The Stephen A documentary gonna be crazy.

[@Highevolutionary-c2h]

Boooo

[@troyg2458]

@@b.waynepresents2992 He NEVER cancelled her. That was just you guys and the internet reading something that wasn`t there. As usual.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

I was just thinking! I'm glad she and SAS worked things out and sis didn't lose her job! 😂

[@hoggiedavis5733]

Ryan Clark right on the head!!

[@caroljakobi3522]

I just want to say; LAMAR JACKSON is a GREAT QUARTER BACK, I LOVE watching him, and his SPIRIT NEVER LETS ME DOWN!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU LAMAR; LET'S GO RAVENS, LET'S DO THIS WIN,WIN,WIN

[@DavidRaymer-yx1tx]

They surly don’t like Allen. Lamar is expected to win superbowl because he’s been MVP twice and that’s what’s expected of MVPs.

[@DaKiDDKAYC]

Yall were down talking that man way before the MVPs, yall were just forced to move the goalpost.

[@DavidRaymer-yx1tx]

Lamar is considered 2nd best quarterback in NFL. That’s why goalpost moved. Arron Rodgers was great but people criticize him because he only one 1 Super Bowl. If Josh is a dud in playoffs criticism will come.

[@DaKiDDKAYC]

@@DavidRaymer-yx1tx Okay I hear you

[@orrinbynum5978]

Greetings to you all and Happy Holidays and I wish you all a very happy and prosperous Happy New Year. I loved the comments that came from the entire group today. I just wanted to add one little thing about Lamar Jackson. When Lamar got his first MVP he did not have the supporting cast around him like he has now. I am glad that things are slowly getting better for Lamar and I pray that the Ravens win out for the rest of this year. I pray that the Ravens get to the Super Bowl and win it so I can hear : “What are they going to say now”? Thank you all for hosting this show today and for the entertainment of the day. I pray the Ravens will see you all ay the Super Bowl and win it. Have a wonderful day and holiday season. May God continue to bless you all.

[@Zarkmoneybags]

Michael vick as coach: I need players that got that dog in them Players: 😳😧😳

[@linettejones]

Love RC he is brilliant when expressing his takes. You can tell the work he puts in

[@justacoolguy336]

I get what cam is saying but Vick played in an era with slower d lineman. Today's era have players and systems to stop running qbs I don't think Vick would have done as well with all that against him in todays game

[@tyarchie5143]

Cam is saying the game was more physical. You can barely touch a qb. I'm sure if you watched Vick. But no one on the field was faster.

[@9Gorgeous]

Freeney ran a 4.3-4.4…..Abraham a 4.5 you are tweaking DLINE were just as fast

[@justacoolguy336]

@9Gorgeous again silly lil boy it was only a few. Now about 7 out 10 lineman are in that 4.4 range back then only 2 out 20 lineman had that speed.

[@justacoolguy336]

@9Gorgeous u real deal slow if u think the game isn't faster now lol. Wrs are faster qbs lbs linemen and db's everybody is faster now than it was in early 2000s that's just common sense if u arguing that u can't be helped young slime

[@liquidswords2636]

@@justacoolguy336players are definitely faster in today’s game due to certain enhancements, engineering in health and vitality, better performance related vitamins and supplements. So much has drastically changed in the science of nutrition that helps current athletes go wild today.

[@keithperrin7299]

Ryan Clark killed it when he was explaining the evolution of the mobile qb cam felt that

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

Lamar has been over-appreciated if anything considering he's never won anything other than an MVP. Why does it always feel like theyre trying to make a case for Lamar because he's Black at the same time that there are highly successful Black QB's winning in the NFL right now. It's a strange disconnect.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

"Other than" the MVP? 😬😅 And you must be another one that doesn't pay any attention to the actual stats? 😂

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

@RMMomma4Eva You cant put stats in a trophy case.

[@GradyBrown-i3m]

Love ❤️ this first take crew

[@sean24833]

Dogged Michael Vick? you ain't slick women we heard that sneak diss

[@miketyler677]

She can't talk. She got a dui charge in Atlanta

[@shankdiddy9045]

When Brian Bilick said "who in the history of the NFL looks like Cam Newton has won a Super Bowl?"..... saying that is a prime example of gaslighting. As if Jim Crow wasn't in existence for half of the life of the NFL... as if the Hall of Fame wouldn't have been field with players that look like Lamar Jackson if given a chance. As if the record books wouldn't have been filled with players that look like Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson isn't as new as we want to suggest from the stand point of opportunity. (i get Lamar is historically unique skill set i get it)... I am talking about the constant narrative that in a word is >> racist. NFL fans and decision makers mostly don't look like Lamar. And for years the idea was you had to look a certain way. This is why i firmly believe that Carson Beck was viewed as a number 1 over all pick in the draft process early because he fit the "image:" of what a QB looks like. Dave Gettelmen Giants GM and former Panther GM once said upon drafting Daniel Jones > "that is what a NFL QB should look like". ... at the highest levels of football many firmly believe this. For years every draft cycle you hear the anonymous scouts with digs and African American QBs ... EVERY YEAR!!!... or some critic about their cognitive ability. Always some dig related to some perceived flaw between their ears ... Yet the NFL rookie of the year award that has been in the game since 1957 has been given to QB's 11 times.... 6 of them African American QB's in the last 17 years alone. And it is about to be 7 this year...... with the top 3 QB's projected in next years draft African American.... I did a study on this and African American QB's pan out at astronomical rates compared too their counter parts. So while Lamar may or may not win it all. The more chances players that look like him get the more records will fall and the more that will change. While some will push back against it because human beings are so tribal in their thinking. I just keep thinking if Lamar Jackson was a red head with frickles named Mitch McNielson he would be all over every bill board and this MVP race talk would be over.... especially if Mitch McNielson had 4k yards passing near or over 1k rushing 40 plus TD passes and 4 int and 1st or 2nd all time passer rating for a season. I just keep thinking about how lamar who is 27 years old. Is on a normal career path. Stuck locked out of the playoffs by a All time great in Patrick Mahomes.. Like Peyton Manning who didn't even WIN a single playoff game until year 6.. or how Micheal Jordan was stuck getting bounced out of the playoffs by the Celtics then the Pistons BEFORE he went on his run. This just looks like normal progression in sports. Patrick Mahomes is the progression unicorn. What he has done early in his career isn't normal... it isn't what normally happens.... EVERY great QB of this era is stuck trying to solve the same issue The difference is how ppl view them and thru what lenses.

[@Godwin420]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Save us all the time and mental anguish next time and keep this drivel to yourself.

[@metroboomin3509]

First Take family/exec. It is imparitive that you have Stephen OR Cam on first take at all times. You are putting women that learned football 3 years ago to debate football. Cmon bro.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

Bro these women are professionals. So what you're really saying is not only are they incompetent but the men who hired them are fools. Please bro. Ain't nobody just giving away the kind of money these women make being on tv 😂

[@knasiere]

Fantastic group, fantastic clip !!!

[@herseyyoung4734]

Why is CAM the 🤡 putting Mahomes in the same sentence as Manning and Brady when it comes to mobility saying you can to a degree attack him. Patrick Mahomes just WON the Super Bowl where he was the LEADING RUSHER FOR HIS TEAM. Show me where Manning and Brady won games where they also were the leading RUSHERS for their team you can't. They were statues for a reason because they weren't Mobile, That's nite and day to Mahomes who can take off if necessary. Also, NO ONE has ever said Patrick Mahomes is underappreciated as a RUNNER since we all know he is capable of burning you at any time, this was Cam backhanded compliment after making a BONEHEADED one to begin with.

[@TheHayes010]

If Lamar doesnt win the MVP its criminal. The fact Lamar plays so well that he has sat out the 4th Qtr in multiple games this year is the definition of VALUE to a team cause hes so good he can sit out and garuntee to stay healthy and theres nothing more valuable than that im sorry. Not to mention he balled out in 5 of the last 6 all against playoff teams and Allen has had the easier schedule and he had a bad game just a couple weeks ago. Even in losses Lamar is usually balling its just his defense or kicker that lost the game. The fact we are even talking about Allen being ahead of Lamar is lunacy. Lamar lifts his team mates as much as Allen. Lamar also had to over come his bad defense the first 3/4 of the year. Lamar in the regular season as individual player is the best QB in the NFL now including Mahomes. Mahomes has more SBs but thats cause hes had better teams and coaching staff but youre lying if you say youd take anyone on your team over Lamar screw the playoffs because besides one year i believe his coaching is what lost him those games. If they didnt abandoned the run they wouldve won the SB and KC wouldnt be trying to 3 peat right now. Lamars done nothing but improve every single year and this year is 2 times as good as the last years MVP so idk how you give it to anybody else. This isnt bias cause its my team either im a Colts fan.

[@kennethghee7436]

Cmon Elle.. it’s 1,2,3 not 1,2 back to 1..

[@michaelmiller8338]

Yeah she sucks.

[@MaxJulien2701]

Dude has 2 MVPs and is about to place second in voting this year (at minimum). How can you have an actual convo about him being underrated or underappreciated😂

[@TT337___]

Then didn't even the deserve the MVP last year. That was CMC award. Love Lamar but that wasn't MVP numbers. He definitely should win this year though

[@Jiggly_puff19]

Great crew better when Stephan A and Molly not yapping

[@michaelmiller8338]

No Molly is a good day. Elle and monica are irritating and always moving and yapping!

[@OBPMA]

Props to the producer today. Best segment/convo & crew I've seen in years 😂

[@troyg2458]

@@michaelmiller8338 Oh so you hate woman and like men. Me too, hey....😜

[@akawoodycom]

They need their own show. They are fabulous one from each part of the network. I love it.Keep the look going

[@outlawz38]

this cast stinks...... lamar is great though.

[@patd2331]

I love the Friday lineup 🔥🔥

[@MrDaedae01]

Ryan Clark Preaching. Very well said.

[@donaldhermann2121]

What do you mean under appreciated? He gets talked about EVERY DAY

[@TheKingReignsSupreme]

I see we got the Pink Panther on the show this Morning

[@stefslyfe]

Shout to stephen a smith for giving each of these incredible analysts to do their thing on his platform. Bro gets a lot of grief for a lot of things, but he’s given back in a lot of ways that go unrecognized. Big shout for an incredible show today. LOVE this crew together. Great job y’all❤❤❤❤❤

[@ronjiclark8680]

Cam Newton Looking Like Randy Moncho Man Savge With That Hat All I Was Waiting To Hear Cam Newton Say Was Ooo Yeah !!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ChrisJohnson-qr6cx]

It's crazy how everyone forgets why Micheal Vick went to jail.

[@ajtaylor8750]

The fact that Lamar's numbers this season are better than his numbers last season, and yet there's even a DISCUSSION of whether he should win MVP, is asinine. As much as Josh Allen is balling out this season, it's not even close in my opinion.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

What they're trying to say is we're moving the goalposts when it comes to Josh, because his stats this year are somewhat better than Lamar's were when he won last year AND Josh has more wins than Lamar this year. But it's a specious argument because no season is exactly the same so the circumstances that make the MVP will naturally change from year to year.

[@avagantamos3]

Great take RC

[@Unodaonee]

i like this crew! great blend!

[@hamoody703]

I wanna see mad dog and cam be in studio together

[@lestergarcia247]

I feel like Stephen A allowed Monica on his show to further defeat her; he was right he covered the wnba long before CC hit the scene and Monica lied and is racist

[@abodeofhaven1]

Lamar Jackson synopsis 2024: Jackson's quarterback rating is 121.6, second all-time to Aaron Rodgers (122.5 in 2011). He leads the league in touchdown passes (39), touchdown percentage (8.8%), yards per attempt (8.9), adjusted yards per attempt (10.31), QBR (77.7), net yards gained per pass attempt (8.18), and adjusted net yards per pass attempt (9.48).

[@jviewer99]

Under appreciated? He got an MVP with less than 30 total touchdowns because he “did it alone” even though his defence that season was the only way he survived the first two months of the season and made the playoffs. Now he has Henry getting 200 yard games Zay with over 1000 receiving, Mark Andrews playing like he used to and it opens up his game and Allen is doing it alone with no 1000 yard rushing RB or receiving WR but, the stats matter? If that’s what happens it’s a stupid award.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

Um, James Cook anyone? 😅

[@jviewer99]

@ Um James cook who has less than a 1000 yards rushing and almost half as many rushing yards as Henry, anyone?

[@alexanderthegreat5649]

Even before Cam spoke I thought "And Vick didn't have designed runs like Lamar! I can only imagine if he did where those stats would be." Then Cam says exactly that

[@TaylorTurnbull-p4v]

“The closest to him is Josh Allen,” meanwhile Russel Wilson is 4th on the list and ran for 55 yards against the Chiefs yesterday, hahaha.

[@tasiwilsonmusic]

Remember they designed run plays for Lamar Jackson and Vick strictly from the pocket scrambling

[@kingofthemountain_1]

6:16 this shows how much different they value the quarterbacks. With Josh Allens roster, they never let the blame fall on solely him. Over Lamar's career, they have NEVER once blamed anyone on Lamar's roster except him

[@davidhamilton2708]

Ryan Clark was spot on ….. great analysis

[@savotodorovic2181]

If the MVP was just about individual stats, why didn't Dak win it last year? He beat Lamar in almost every single stat possible (passing yards, total yards, completion %, QBR, passing TD, total TD, turnovers). We can't just pick and choose how the MVP is decided, whether it's narrative driven or stat driven, to suit the QB (or player) we like the most. If we're keeping in line with how the MVP was awarded last year, Josh Allen should win it this year (even though I prefer the award is stat driven and Lamar win it)