Is it time to change the Ballon d'Or rules after Messi's seventh trophy? | Extra Time | ESPN FC

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@ikeu4210
@ikeu4210 2 жыл бұрын
The pain craig is going through due to this messi's recent award is beautiful to watch
@Yuh0847
@Yuh0847 2 жыл бұрын
lol him, stevie, don and yang are in shambles and its amazing
@chefgnabry2014
@chefgnabry2014 2 жыл бұрын
"That's give us Americans a bad name"- Craig lmfaooo "But you're not american"- Dan "How do you know"- Craig This show helps me keep my sanity
@rondabon6737
@rondabon6737 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@FoSho949
@FoSho949 2 жыл бұрын
Messi has people trying to change half century old rules 😩🐐
@Cule_
@Cule_ 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? These "pundits" will cry to death when he retires because who gonna feed them with views? 😂 I mean they already are seeking it
@Vociferous
@Vociferous 2 жыл бұрын
France football is who’s at fault here, they can’t decide on what merit to give contenders the award, so they switch it up every season.
@palashrawat401
@palashrawat401 2 жыл бұрын
Not Messi, but corruption. Nobody can tell me what criteria Messi deserved to win in 2010, 2012, 2019..and why didn't those criterias apply for Lewandowski?
@scrpinx547
@scrpinx547 2 жыл бұрын
He's literally hacking at this point, football legends have the ballon d'or with these set of rules but when leo wins it they wanna change the rules because it's "InSuLtiNg ThIeR SpOrt". If they stop the ballon d'or cos of messi, that just says more about him, imagine winning the award so much it was stopped because of you lol🐐👽
@abcdefg6761
@abcdefg6761 2 жыл бұрын
2022 Messi will win worldcup and they will say Messi is not goat because he didn't win ICC cricket world cup 🤣🤣🤣
@pranav5788
@pranav5788 2 жыл бұрын
Or just create second best player in the world award as long as Leo is around, problem solved.
@joshscott3184
@joshscott3184 2 жыл бұрын
Puuuh! He's the goat no doubt..but he wast better than Lewandowski or mo salah..this isn't a lifetime award. This award is a joke at this point .
@laminjammeh6373
@laminjammeh6373 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@palashrawat401
@palashrawat401 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshscott3184 but it's being dished out like a lifetime achievement award now. What a joke of an award this has become.
@thabomashale6728
@thabomashale6728 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshscott3184 where was salah from january to august?
@joshscott3184
@joshscott3184 2 жыл бұрын
@@thabomashale6728 so by you comment you've just proven my point that Lewandowski was the deserved recipient..
@TheClassic-pp4ip
@TheClassic-pp4ip 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think people are just feeling sympathy for Lewa for not winning it last year because it got canceled. Because I’ve seen people using stats from last season and such. And how is it Messi’s fault he won it? When you people kept changing favorites everytime? So far ya talked about Kante, then Jorginho and then Benzema and so on, and that played a part in taking votes from Lewa. While people who watched Messi knowns what he did. Ya also talk about Lewa breaking a 51 years old record, while Messi broke a even longer one which had to do with two of Pele’s records.
@gagzman1
@gagzman1 2 жыл бұрын
It's baffling how no one is giving messi credit. Biased clonws everywhere 🤦‍♂️
@amr4336
@amr4336 2 жыл бұрын
True
@hashhussain8550
@hashhussain8550 2 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo best messi an Pele records
@historianofmanythings4294
@historianofmanythings4294 2 жыл бұрын
If ur bringing up those records that Messi broke then Ronaldo should’ve won it lol. Most official goals in history and most international goals as well>>
@nowhereisawesome
@nowhereisawesome 2 жыл бұрын
Yup and it’s been spread out by certain fan base. They went from Kante to Jorginho to Lewandowski for Ballondor We proud of you GOA7 LM7 deserved winner. The more sweeter thing is CR7 will be honoring LM7 for the rest of his career 😊👍✅🤟🏾
@Vociferous
@Vociferous 2 жыл бұрын
I think France football themselves have to state as clear as water what the actual criteria is for someone to win the Ballon d’Or, I mean seriously, one year it’s about goals, the next it’s about trophies, then the next it’s about goals and trophies, then we’re back to square one and it’s about trophies
@Chris24_
@Chris24_ 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@jalex6390
@jalex6390 2 жыл бұрын
The rules are changed every year so can be Messi the winner
@maquinn121
@maquinn121 2 жыл бұрын
They do, you just don't get a vote so you don't understand how it works. But journalists should not get a say in this vote
@barcak1912
@barcak1912 2 жыл бұрын
@@jalex6390 are they? Cuz if rules were G/A he'd win 2016, 2017 and 2018 too, mans had 74 G/A in 53 games in 2018 Liga Golden boot, European golden boot, domestic double and finished 5th in Balon d'or 👀
@willgreig4077
@willgreig4077 2 жыл бұрын
@@barcak1912 2018 Was the World Cup year so it was valued more than in season performance which goes with his point that the criteria makes no sense. Even that year was wrong it should have been Ronaldo who was the best player in the Champions league and world cup
@josephkaisangofficial...7194
@josephkaisangofficial...7194 2 жыл бұрын
Messi is the only who deserves Balloon D'OR more than seven times in this planet🌍. I love football just because of Leo. Love you from India🇮🇳.
@piotrmarcinkiewicz5391
@piotrmarcinkiewicz5391 2 жыл бұрын
Go watch cricket! Only Lewy deserves it
@aboyisebuke
@aboyisebuke 2 жыл бұрын
The ‘factos’ remain that even in the years that great defenders played, the best player in the world in the years that he won, was still Lionel Messi.
@Incognito-jx5gr
@Incognito-jx5gr 2 жыл бұрын
Wth is wrong with people? Why they are after Messi each time we see on social media, ballon d'Or is being awarded for last 65 years and there was no change in criteria in those years? And now when each time Messi wins it everyone says it's rigged! He never said France football to award him!
@goatstatusj5112
@goatstatusj5112 2 жыл бұрын
Messi is so good, he is a victim of his own self
@NoName-cc9cy
@NoName-cc9cy 2 жыл бұрын
Cause thats what happens when you’re the 🐐
@Vociferous
@Vociferous 2 жыл бұрын
The reason being is because there were better players than Messi the controversial seasons he won, 2010, 2015, 2019, and arguably, but most debatably in 2021.
@Incognito-jx5gr
@Incognito-jx5gr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vociferous Frank Ribery (2013) /Manuel neuer (2014) say hello😂 Btw Leo's individual stats in 2016 were far better than Ronaldo😂
@fa1con989
@fa1con989 2 жыл бұрын
Lol espn is doing this coz KZbin just removed that dislike button 😂🤡 and as usual messi is the victim of his own brilliance
@thedarkknighthasrisen
@thedarkknighthasrisen 2 жыл бұрын
7:18 I can understand them saying how Maradona had to face roughness and dirty tackles, but them saying that Messi was well protected is a rubbish statement. Don't forget that Ramos and Pepe used to try to kill Lio and even against South American teams, when Lio plays, defenders play ufc.
@goodvibes-seeen1354
@goodvibes-seeen1354 2 жыл бұрын
I think Frank Le Beouf would be perfect actor for The Last Duel. As the cousin to the king. 😂
@ibukundavid5085
@ibukundavid5085 2 жыл бұрын
Big time 😹
@ajaymahara3017
@ajaymahara3017 2 жыл бұрын
Ben afleck
@ksg5375
@ksg5375 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Ballon D'or rules should change because it will be easy for Messi to continue to win the Ballon D'or....rules shouod be change so he can be challenged a bit.....but beware.....as long as he lives continues playin football.....he will collect the Ballon D'ors
@henrykhiangte3834
@henrykhiangte3834 2 жыл бұрын
Just admit the fact that. Lewandoswski deserved it in 2020 and Lionel Messi in 2021.
@Anu-po5ml
@Anu-po5ml 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bayazwow
@bayazwow 2 жыл бұрын
Or at the very least admit that it's debatable on who between the 2 deserved it more in 2021. Meanwhile these people are unironically saying Jorginho should have won it. Just comical.
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Lewa actually deserved both but Messi winning a mickey mouse tournament that gets hosted every year where two teams are the favourites automatically takes precedence apparently. Quite frankly it’s embarrassing it’s taken him this long (6th final now is it?) LOL! Not to mention ghosting the Final against the only tough competition against Brazil and missing a sitter. But hey, I guess he can always give the Ballon Dor to Di Maria.
@nigel5634
@nigel5634 2 жыл бұрын
He deserves both objectively speaking without any feelings for Messi.
@jessejames9149
@jessejames9149 2 жыл бұрын
I admit that Wesley Sneijder deserved it in 2010 and not Messi!
@KiNg-yl8hs
@KiNg-yl8hs 2 жыл бұрын
Messi in 2016 and 2018 deserved to win but because internationally he didnt perform well according to other people, he didn't win. Now that he's won the Copa America, the criteria suddenly needs to be changed. Where were all these shouts in the past years. Messi is really a victim of his own standards
@historianofmanythings4294
@historianofmanythings4294 2 жыл бұрын
Messi in 2016 and 2018 had absolutely no serious case to win. Only cules think that. 2016 Ronaldo won cl and euros, Messi had no shot of winning that. 2018 he won the league but again the biggest tournament of the year he was a ghost. Copa america was held 4 times in 6 years, it has lost its credibility and prestige
@KiNg-yl8hs
@KiNg-yl8hs 2 жыл бұрын
@@historianofmanythings4294 it has lost its prestige according to who? And also Messi in 2018 had 51 goals, 26 assists, La Liga, Copa del Rey, Supercopa, Pichichi, European Golden Boot. Any other player with those stats would have won easily but because its Messi, its regarded as normal. Yes he didn't win the UCL but those are team trophies, meaning Real Madrid as a whole team won the Ucl. The team was balanced. All the players played well.
@historianofmanythings4294
@historianofmanythings4294 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiNg-yl8hs Modric won the cl while being the best in his position and dragged his country to a World Cup final. Croatia is not a big team either. Ronaldo has a better case than Messi that year anyway. It lost its prestige by having it every year instead of 4. It honestly feels like they kept having it so Messi can win one. More chances to win = less prestige, especially compared to euros
@danieljakes5949
@danieljakes5949 2 жыл бұрын
@@historianofmanythings4294 2016 griezman was la Liga's best player and Messi the foward of the year . In the Euros cr 7 wasn't even among the best 3 players statistically , I have all his Euro stats. He was only the best player in the UCL. Euros anf the league was griezman. He won that award not because he was the best player on earth but the player with the biggest impact. Messi had a historic 90 goal contributions , CR7 has never achieved that, but no one cared ,simply because he rocketed a penalty to the moon. Based on individual performances Messi was better in 2016, Ronaldo got it for the trophies and the goals he scored , but he was no where close to dominating games. He dominated goalscoring. If griezman converted his penalty in the UCL final and won the euros no one would have made a case for CR7 because he wasnt the best player in any of those tournaments just the best player in the winning team
@historianofmanythings4294
@historianofmanythings4294 2 жыл бұрын
@@danieljakes5949 😂😂😂😂😂 but guess what buddy! Ronaldo hit his penalty to win cl and carried Portugal to the finals! Griezmann was a ghost when it mattered most and same with Messi. Ronaldo won the two biggest trophies, literally the entire aim of the sport is to win and he did it while being the best in his teams. There is no logical argument against it. The points totals for the award that year were overwhelmingly in Ronaldo’s favor as well. It was no question
@keanuking8844
@keanuking8844 2 жыл бұрын
Espn is on about messi this messi that. Messi deserves the ballondor. This ain’t an award for 2020 my guy. The tears are coming from more Ronaldo fans than lewandowski fans just because they are so obsessed about this stupid “Rivalry” Talk about something different now
@jakobtanner6109
@jakobtanner6109 2 жыл бұрын
A rivalry means it's competitive. Messi is dominating in so many ways.
@keanuking8844
@keanuking8844 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakobtanner6109 I’m saying Ronaldo fans are so obsessed about this rivalry they would have find a way to make it look like maguire deserves the ballondor over messi just because they don’t want messi to achieve more than their idol 😂
@zaidafifkhudhaiyer1502
@zaidafifkhudhaiyer1502 2 жыл бұрын
@@keanuking8844 YOU WELLDONE MY FRIEND ✌️👏👏👏VERY TRUE
@factcheck5767
@factcheck5767 2 жыл бұрын
These thug pundits half of jobs is to compare between them. Now no comparision as Messi is ahead in both Ballon dor and European boot. So they will spend most of the time discrediting Messi and Ballon Dor. Realistically there is no chance now Penaldo can catch in any catagory now.
@m.iqbalassegaf6829
@m.iqbalassegaf6829 2 жыл бұрын
@@keanuking8844 you win youtube ballon d'or best comment bro 👏👏
@nowhereisawesome
@nowhereisawesome 2 жыл бұрын
By Craig point of view Messi should have won 9/10 Ballondors by now Come on people, no doubt Lewa deserved to get one for 2020, but for 2021 Messi was amazing, this guy won Copa with Barcelona, bang average team and still competed for laliga title and above all LM7 did something outstanding that no other player in the history of world football did. Messi was amazing game in game out, was creating chances after chances for his teams, most assists, most goals, MVP and even defending was magnificent. Truly magnificent tournament by Messi. What Messi did in Copa America, no one else would have done it, maybe only Diego. Messi is the culprit of his own greatness. He is miles ahead of everyone else. The greatest of all time did it and I’m convinced he will at least win one more Ballondor Haters deal with the greatness or CRYMORE cuz Messi will win it again. GOA7 LM7
@guccibase
@guccibase 2 жыл бұрын
Let's take Lewandowski and Messi out of the picture to remove every bias we have for them. Let's say you have two new players called player A and player B that you know nothing about and have no attachment towards. Player A 1. Plays for Athletico Madrid in Spain 2. Plays for Brazilian national team 3. His league team didn't win La liga (Top trophy) 4. His league team WON Spanish cup (Mediocre trophy) 5. His national team WON Copa America (Top trophy) 6. He is the best player in the trophies his teams won 7. He performed poorly in CL and his team eliminated early in round of 16. (Top trophy) 8. He played 57 games all year, scored 41 times and assisted 17 times 9. His goal + assist count is 58 in 57 games 10. Outscored everyone in La Liga Player B 1. Plays for Borussia dortmund in Germany 2. Plays for Switzerland national team 3. His league team WON Bundesliga (Top trophy) 4. His league team WON German cup (Mediocre trophy) 5. His league team WON club world cup ( Mediocre trophy) 6. His national team didn't win Euros (Top trophy) 7. He is the best player in the trophies His teams won 8. He performed well in CL but his team eliminated in Quarter finals (Top trophy) 9. He played 54 games all year, scored 64 times and assisted 10 times 10. His goal + assist count is 74 in 54 games 11. Broke Bundesliga goal scoring record 12. Out scored everyone in Bundesliga. 13. Out scored everyone in Europe. 14. Outscored everyone in the world. Who deserves the balon dor between player A and player B? Remove all bias and do not picture any particular player. For me it is Player B by a mile. It's not even a comparison.
@enlgn7050
@enlgn7050 2 жыл бұрын
@@guccibase take into account the quality of La Liga over Bundes. Also player B played for the best team (best in europe actually) in the worse league. Both had same number of goals in UCL and player A had more assists. Also player A won every possible individual award in Copa America, a feat that has never been acheived.
@rajeebdas1724
@rajeebdas1724 2 жыл бұрын
@@guccibase See we become what we call others... You're telling others to remove all bias...But there's plenty of bias in your list.. Firstly The national trophy you mentioned...Poland didn't just lose the Euros...they were pathetic.. They lost to Slovakia for God's sake.. They were a misery to watch..in case you've forgotten.. On the other hand Leo won the player of the tournament and Golden boot in Copa.. They didn't just win the Copa..He won all the individual awards there was to win.. Plus those last points you mention about Lewa...Those aren't different..Those be all but one.. That he was the highest goalscorer.. Stop over emphasizing 'outscored'... You're being 100% biased yourself by doing so. Lewa outscored Messi...True. Lewa has two Trophies..both club.. Messi has two..one club..one The Copa. Lewa broke Muller's Bundesliga record.. Messi broke Pele south American record. Now we talking. I've already said countlessly of times. Lewa and Messi have an equal claim to 2020-21 trphy..2019-20 trophy... that's a different ball game.. That's Lewa's by a country mile. So reinstate that to Lewa.. And give this to messi as they already have...
@dj71162
@dj71162 2 жыл бұрын
One change to satisfy defensive players being overlooked is to give 4 Ballons d'Or per year - each for Goalkeeper, Defender, Midfielder and Forward. Think about it, at the Oscars they dont just have ONE acting category becuase otherwise it would usually be the leading man that wins. Instead they break it down and reward Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, so that their is more representation. It also means that you are comparing things that are in the same context than such as comparing a goalkeeper to a forward. Of course the down side to giving out 4 is that it arguably makes it less prestigious because it has become 4 times easier to win. So this year (based on ranking) the winners would have been: Goalkeeper: Gianluigi Donnarumma Defender: Giorgio Chiellini Midfielder: Jorginho Forward: Lionel Messi
@phantom1076
@phantom1076 2 жыл бұрын
There's Yashin award for goalkeeper. Striker of the year (or golden boot). Ballon D'or is for the best player. What you are proposing already existed, and people still want the Ballon D'or.
@charleslebi7297
@charleslebi7297 2 жыл бұрын
All this controversy is arising because of how much emphasis has been placed on individual accolades in football particularly in the last few years. The talk around the Balon D'or is way overblown especially by the "social media" fan thats more obsessed with following Ronaldo and Messi on Instagram than watching and studying the games..
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame
@JayVee53
@JayVee53 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who studies games and actually analyses properly knows that Messi > CR7
@piccolo5346
@piccolo5346 2 жыл бұрын
The Ballon dor lost value since they started giving it to tap in merchants like Ronaldo. Dont get me wrong, Ronaldo deserved in 2008 and 2013 but the rest are all BS.
@alibarznji2000
@alibarznji2000 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame
@XhoowieX
@XhoowieX 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayVee53 nice job totally missing the point there mate
@deborahluck8274
@deborahluck8274 2 жыл бұрын
MESSI DEFINITELY DESERVES THE BALLON D’OR BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ONE TO LEWANDOWSKI FOR THE YEAR BEFORE.
@drnobs3315
@drnobs3315 2 жыл бұрын
No he didn’t didn’t have the best stats that’s just bs from All the Messi sycophants
@football-mp2is
@football-mp2is 2 жыл бұрын
@@drnobs3315 messi literally had the best stats of everything bar goals and if u think goals wins u a balon d or then that’s what the golden boots for
@jaimeangelo4143
@jaimeangelo4143 2 жыл бұрын
Please. These past 2 years it's Lewandowski.
@vatsalagarwal4055
@vatsalagarwal4055 2 жыл бұрын
Pick the Midfield you would choose in a 433: KDB, kante, kimmich/veratti. But give jorginho the Bdor. The absolute jokes 😂
@tonyyyssss
@tonyyyssss 2 жыл бұрын
Do you gettt, bunch of clowns
@XhoowieX
@XhoowieX 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyyyssss he's choosing for now/the future presumably rather than the year that has just been. This isn't that hard mate.
@vatsalagarwal4055
@vatsalagarwal4055 2 жыл бұрын
@@XhoowieX if he is choosing for the now wouldn't you put the best Midfielder in the world? Oops he did by putting kante who carried jorginho to UCL
@XhoowieX
@XhoowieX 2 жыл бұрын
@@vatsalagarwal4055 Ballon d'Or is awarded for the past, not for the future. It's not a prediction or potential award.
@ofentsemako8042
@ofentsemako8042 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I love Extra Time for the banter.
@barstar888
@barstar888 2 жыл бұрын
Messi is so good people want to cancel the award now just not to recognize him further, lol 😂....feels like the grown man version of “take my ball and go home” because I’m not getting my way 😅
@tylerspaz
@tylerspaz 2 жыл бұрын
This show is the best thing espn does.
@randyzoo8944
@randyzoo8944 2 жыл бұрын
Change the rules, Messi will still win it. 3 times the changed the rules already, and Messi won each time. This is how big the player is. 🤣🤣🤣
@randyzoo8944
@randyzoo8944 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandoft9msn459 Oh yeah? And how many big games did Lewandowski play? What did he do in the Euro? Did he passed the group stage? Did he even qualify his national team for the world cup next year? Did he win the champions league? How did Lewandowski deserve the ballon d'or over Messi? Because of the goals? Don't make me laugh kid. Just go cry somewhere else. 🤣🤣🤣
@drnobs3315
@drnobs3315 2 жыл бұрын
@@randyzoo8944 another Messi sycophant. He didn’t have the numbers
@randyzoo8944
@randyzoo8944 2 жыл бұрын
@@drnobs3315 Please bring the numbers.
@Slim-Clips
@Slim-Clips 2 жыл бұрын
Messi should have 10+ Ballon d’Ors by now and people are acting like he’s lucky to have 7.
@patchh15
@patchh15 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on Robert for breaking Gerd’s Bundesliga record with a grand total of 41. I’m sure Messi is shaking in his boots having bagged 50 (yes, 50) La Liga goals in a single season as his + the all time domestic European league tally.
@charleslebi7297
@charleslebi7297 2 жыл бұрын
Did Messi score 50 goals last season??
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 2 жыл бұрын
A whopping 0 Goals and 0 Assists with PSG before voting closed. Have some shame.
@madridstas797
@madridstas797 2 жыл бұрын
@@charleslebi7297 WHY DO PAY ATTENTION TO SUCH ILLITERATES.... JUST IGNORE...
@patchh15
@patchh15 2 жыл бұрын
@@charleslebi7297 the point is if Messi had played in the Bundesliga Robert would never have broken this record which was being used as a reason for why he should win the Ballon d’Or. It makes zero sense.
@patchh15
@patchh15 2 жыл бұрын
@@SLSAMG He barely played due to lack of match fitness until voting was over, but nice try.
@jus_danny
@jus_danny 2 жыл бұрын
Messi deserved it period
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you say it doesn't mean it's a fact. Sorry not sorry.
@jessejames9149
@jessejames9149 2 жыл бұрын
So did Wesley Sneijder in 2010 when he won everything except the World Cup!
@Ebbystein
@Ebbystein 2 жыл бұрын
@@SLSAMG yeah and judt bcos u disagree doesn’t make u right neither😅
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessejames9149 Shh. That doesn’t go along with the pessi-stan agenda
@Ebbystein
@Ebbystein 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessejames9149 and Ribery 2013, neuer 2014
@duran9664
@duran9664 2 жыл бұрын
FACT: Some Asian players, like Ali Dai of Iran, have scored more goals for years, way more than Lewi, yet none of them have ever gotten the Ballen d’or?! 🤪
@abcdefg6761
@abcdefg6761 2 жыл бұрын
True 🤣🤣 but Dubai Dor has more value than ballon Dor according to penladians 🤣🤣
@samriddhasampad7034
@samriddhasampad7034 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@souvikjha8242
@souvikjha8242 2 жыл бұрын
i think everybody would agree with me.......2020-lewa, 2021-messi but just because 2020 wasn't awarded 2021 should have been given to lewa as he was strongest contendor along with messi
@hosenOne1
@hosenOne1 2 жыл бұрын
agreed. lewi won everything in 2020.. it was a great season. but in 2021... all he did was score goals. thats it.. not much winning
@markd7813
@markd7813 2 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense. Messi was the best in 21 so keep crying go on lol
@TheFerminramos
@TheFerminramos 2 жыл бұрын
This price was given to the best player before and didn't have to win trophies as a team to give it to them. but when Messi came in winning back to back to back real Madrid had to change it so Cristiano could compete with him. Specially when he was scoring 50+ goals. Now they are saying he didn't deserve it because he didn't win anything. Check his stats during Messi "bad season".
@gagzman1
@gagzman1 2 жыл бұрын
Yup biased clowns everywhere.
@TheFerminramos
@TheFerminramos 2 жыл бұрын
@@gagzman1 I know how to recognize when I see the Goat. Cr7 an excellent player by the way.
@channguyen3765
@channguyen3765 2 жыл бұрын
Finally the smartest comment ever!
@johnalli3423
@johnalli3423 2 жыл бұрын
Messi deserved his 7th ballon d'or , he contributed a lot to the last Copa America and winning it after 3 finals lost (2007,2015,2016) , but the real people who have been robbed in the last 20 years are : Zidane (2001) , Henry (2003,2004) , Ribery (2013) and Griezmann (2018) .
@patchh15
@patchh15 2 жыл бұрын
You have to change the rules so Messi can’t win it 😂😂😂 yeah change it from best player to most goals regardless if the player is rubbish at everything else apart from tapping it in the net. Hilarious. Leo is the GOAT, he deserved it after how he carried Barca to CL and Copa Del Rey, then the best player in every department at the Copa America- deal with it.
@roshawnseeny3885
@roshawnseeny3885 2 жыл бұрын
Fax
@azure89
@azure89 2 жыл бұрын
Carried Barca to CL!?!. Barcelona didn’t even come close to winning it!
@azure89
@azure89 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even win la liga, copa del rey can’t even compare to that.
@helloworld2054
@helloworld2054 2 жыл бұрын
Lol carried to CL, you clearly don't watch football 🤣 typical deluded Messi fan 🤣
@patchh15
@patchh15 2 жыл бұрын
@@helloworld2054 Top goal scorer in La Liga and Barca are now a midtable team without him. I watch always, but nice try. Cry more Lewa fangirl.
@Hydrocarbonman147
@Hydrocarbonman147 2 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo is going to wear the number 7 in his next game in honor of Messi winning his 7th Ballon d'Or
@federalmoney8795
@federalmoney8795 2 жыл бұрын
Could you just let Messi enjoy his balon d or in peace! He deserves everything and more
@alcf618
@alcf618 2 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't, what he did to deserve it? Wining Copa America? Gorginho won th euro AND the Champions and Lewy broke every single record he could.
@stormspirit7171
@stormspirit7171 2 жыл бұрын
@@alcf618 the difference is messi is barca mvp that season, la liga top scorer, copa america mvp, top scorer and top assist. chelsea best player - mount. italy best player - donnarumma. wheres jorginho
@vb2388
@vb2388 2 жыл бұрын
If Messi didn’t deserve in 2021 then neither did Modric in 2018 🤷🏻‍♂️
@vb2388
@vb2388 2 жыл бұрын
Messi in 2018: - 77 G/A in 54 Games - Won Golden Boot - Won Laliga and Copa del Rey - Won 5th Picchichi (Laliga Top Scorer) - IFFHS Playmaker of the Year - UNDEFEATED in 2017/18 Laliga Season (36 Games Played, Lost 0) - Scored a Clutch Hattrick to secure Argentina’s place in 2018 World Cup - Brace of Assists against World Champions France in 2018 World Cup And they placed Messi 5th in rankings 🤦🏻‍♂️😂
@kalashparate4418
@kalashparate4418 2 жыл бұрын
Cry
@kalashparate4418
@kalashparate4418 2 жыл бұрын
@@vb2388 facts
@vb2388
@vb2388 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalashparate4418 are you bipolar or something?
@sizwesimelane8791
@sizwesimelane8791 2 жыл бұрын
Even about Messi, Messi won fairly nje. Just accept guess. Im CR7 fan so im glad that Messi won because he does deserve it.
@lankywang9543
@lankywang9543 2 жыл бұрын
Allways thought the messi/maradona debate in football was ridiculous. Fair play maradona was an insane player but his peak lasted for about 5 years . messi's been playing at his peak for 15. A big part of football is longevity, hence why original Ronaldo and Ronaldinho will never be in the argument for the best ever
@Tyler-jh9uq
@Tyler-jh9uq 2 жыл бұрын
Messi had more goals than maradona by the time he turned 24. That was 10 years ago😂. But these guys will never mention that. Clear anti Messi adgenda
@JayVee53
@JayVee53 2 жыл бұрын
"I think Messi is the best player in the world, I think he deserves it as long as he plays" Virgil Van Dijk
@averysharp3602
@averysharp3602 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well change Van Dijk to France Football
@JayVee53
@JayVee53 2 жыл бұрын
@@averysharp3602 how so? Van Dijk is arguably the best CB in the world, not some random French journalist.
@TheIcon760
@TheIcon760 2 жыл бұрын
Messi is too good they trying to change the rules now 😂😂😂
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 2 жыл бұрын
Messi is a cheater it's rigged
@rkoickel
@rkoickel 2 жыл бұрын
MESSI is the GOAT
@markd7813
@markd7813 2 жыл бұрын
GOA7
@enlgn7050
@enlgn7050 2 жыл бұрын
I really dont understand how people can make an argument against Messi not winning this year. It was pretty straightforward why he would win it this year. For some weird sense of justice they want Messi to be robbed of his Ballon D'or like Lewa was robbed of his last year. Be angry at France Football for not organising the event last year. Not because they gave it to the rightful candidate this year.
@guccibase
@guccibase 2 жыл бұрын
Let's take Lewandowski and Messi out of the picture to remove every bias we have for them. Let's say you have two new players called player A and player B that you know nothing about and have no attachment towards. Player A 1. Plays for Athletico Madrid in Spain 2. Plays for Brazilian national team 3. His league team didn't win La liga (Top trophy) 4. His league team WON Spanish cup (Mediocre trophy) 5. His national team WON Copa America (Top trophy) 6. He is the best player in the trophies his teams won 7. He performed poorly in CL and his team eliminated early in round of 16. (Top trophy) 8. He played 57 games all year, scored 41 times and assisted 17 times 9. His goal + assist count is 58 in 57 games 10. Outscored everyone in La Liga Player B 1. Plays for Borussia dortmund in Germany 2. Plays for Switzerland national team 3. His league team WON Bundesliga (Top trophy) 4. His league team WON German cup (Mediocre trophy) 5. His league team WON club world cup ( Mediocre trophy) 6. His national team didn't win Euros (Top trophy) 7. He is the best player in the trophies His teams won 8. He performed well in CL but his team eliminated in Quarter finals (Top trophy) 9. He played 54 games all year, scored 64 times and assisted 10 times 10. His goal + assist count is 74 in 54 games 11. Broke Bundesliga goal scoring record 12. Out scored everyone in Bundesliga. 13. Out scored everyone in Europe. 14. Outscored everyone in the world. Who deserves the balon dor between player A and player B? Remove all bias and do not picture any particular player. For me it is Player B by a mile. It's not even a comparison.
@markd7813
@markd7813 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@TheDYNAMITE001
@TheDYNAMITE001 2 жыл бұрын
Position based balon dor makes more sense. How can you award a forward, striker of the year and still give player of the year to a forward?? Are they the only ones playing?
@georgenuamah2424
@georgenuamah2424 2 жыл бұрын
I think the rules should be balanced for all. Each player position should have it's own set of rules which accumulates stats with equivalent points. There should be more focus on individual achievement than team achievement since that rules out players in disadvantaged teams.
@osiris7945
@osiris7945 2 жыл бұрын
i agree. but third sentences is no for me, imo it would create huge distortion in football fans & all these pundits, coaches, players. especially if the ballon dor is more focused on individual performances, messi fans would rage on 2017,2018 ballon dor year where none any of those winner performed better than messi. let’s stick to present, they are already have the parameters to decide which player is deserved to be awarded.
@abdulbabatunde9151
@abdulbabatunde9151 2 жыл бұрын
@@osiris7945 they have no parameters just stop it,it's clearly based on favoritism and image
@phantom1076
@phantom1076 2 жыл бұрын
that makes no sense. A part of being a best player is that you play well, even in bad team. This is the best player, not most stats. If you want to win based on stats, play fantasy football. what you are proposing basically will incentivize players to accumulate points for their own individual gains instead of playing for the collective. The criteria right now makes sense: Individual achievement + team trophies = award. Tie breaker would be Off-field shenanigans, personal bias, career consistency, etc. Nobody would give Messi the Ballon D'or after Barca lost 8-2. But this year was not clear cut, and Messi just delivered the Copa after 20 years dry spell for Argentina. We wouldn't have this conversation had Messi and Ronaldo not existed. Midfielders had won Ballon D'or previously: Zidane, Platini. Defenders have also won award before: Canavaro, Beckenbauer. MEssi and Ronaldo were just that good. Their individual performance is out of this world. Before Messi, clubs wouldn't dream about winning the treble. With him, people expect any club with him playing to win treble every year.
@abdulbabatunde9151
@abdulbabatunde9151 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantom1076 and no one expects any club he plays in to win the treble,my God Messi fans become more stupid and dense as time passes by, unbelievable.
@phantom1076
@phantom1076 2 жыл бұрын
​@@abdulbabatunde9151 lol, what planet did you live on? The guy won a domestic double twice in 2017-2019, with the best stats record and placed 5th in the Ballon D'or buddy (5TH, not even 3rd). And before you say La Liga is a farmer's league, this domestic double and stats were against two Madrid teams that went to the UCL finals (with Real winning) in those years. You guys are the dumbest people on the planet. And here people are arguing for Ronaldo and Lewandowski for 2020-2021 seasons when they didn't win any trophy.
@DraCaryyss
@DraCaryyss 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what Messi does ESPN always criticises him Imagine Messi winning the world cup next year , im sure ESPN wil still say World cup has lost its credibility World cup is a small Tournament
@heatwave1789
@heatwave1789 2 жыл бұрын
We don't have to imagine. He never winning it anyway rofl
@samriddhasampad7034
@samriddhasampad7034 Жыл бұрын
@@heatwave1789 aged like milk😂
@samriddhasampad7034
@samriddhasampad7034 Жыл бұрын
After messi has won it
@znhait
@znhait 2 жыл бұрын
"You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain." When Messi and CR7 were in their primes, few people made a stink about FIFA extending the voting in 2013 or Xavi and Iniesta not winning in some other years. Now that Messi is coming to the stage where he'll be no use to the media, they're criticizing him for a legit win.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 2 жыл бұрын
But was Iniesta the best in 2010 ?
@arsel3735
@arsel3735 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195 no Messi was better individually!
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 2 жыл бұрын
@@arsel3735 ok
@brolinfernandez3956
@brolinfernandez3956 2 жыл бұрын
2010 Ballon D'or Winner : Messi (Good individual season for Barca and won La Liga, Scored 0 goals at the 2010 WC and was humiliated by Germany 4-0 in the QF) Xavi and Iniesta (Had a good individual season for Barca and Spain, won La Liga and the World Cup) Sneijder (Had a good individual season for Inter and Holland, won the Treble and reached the Final of the WC) 2019 Ballon D'or Winner : Messi (Good individual season for Barca and won La Liga) Van Dijk (Had one of the best ever seasons a defender has had, won the UCL and reached Nations League final) 2021 Ballon D'or Winner : Messi (Good individual season for Barca and Argentina, Won Copa Del Rey and Copa America ) Lewandowski (Better individual season for Bayern {scored 23 more goals than Messi in 2021} , Won Bundesliga ) Jorginho ( Won the Euros and UCL ) 2018 Ballon D'or Winner : Modric (Good individual season for Madrid and Croatia, Won UCL and reached WC final) Ronaldo ( Better individual season for Madrid and performed well for Portugal {UCL Top Scorer, 4 Goals at the 2018 WC [including a hatrick against one of the pre-tournament favourites-Spain] , Won UCL ) Messi has 7 Ballon D'ors and Ronaldo has 5. What should really have been the case?
@owen7735
@owen7735 2 жыл бұрын
MESSI DEFINITELY DESERVED THE BALON D’OR At the time voting closed Messi only had 7 fewer goals+assists than Lewandowski, but playing for a far worse team. His passing, dribbling and chance creation numbers are far superior to Lewandowski. And he won the a trophy for his national team, which history has shown is a crucial part of Balon d’or voting. If Lewandowski had won last year, which he should have after winning the treble and scoring for fun, then nobody would be moaning about Messi winning this year.
@faponemjas8069
@faponemjas8069 2 жыл бұрын
lol second fiddle copa America is no comparable to other continental competitions. It’s played every two years plus you have honorary teams participating, teams that don’t even need to qualify. And then you go from group stage straight to knockout stage, how is that competition a ballen de or decider ? Gtfoh
@owen7735
@owen7735 2 жыл бұрын
@@faponemjas8069 it’s not a “balon d’or decider”, it’s a balon d’or contributer. The fact Messi won a trophy with his national team, his performances during the competition and his performances all year are what decided he won
@faponemjas8069
@faponemjas8069 2 жыл бұрын
@@owen7735 it was a decider for Messi, why wasn’t it a decider for any other player. Like the pundits say, the criteria are changed every year for Messi. It’s quite unfortunate but this balen de or invalidates Messi contribution, it also asks questions on if he ever truly deserved most of them or if he was just favoured. You can see the results, although he has 7 balen d ors, he still isn’t considered the greatest of all time by most level headed analysts.
@owen7735
@owen7735 2 жыл бұрын
@@faponemjas8069 changed every year for Messi? The guy had the most goal contributions of anyone in 2018 and came 5th. Who won? Modric for what he did with Croatia
@faponemjas8069
@faponemjas8069 2 жыл бұрын
@@owen7735 again it is changed for him In your original statement you mentioned trophy but now you are mentioning stats. In 2021 there were players that had more trophies than him and more stats than him, why didn’t they win it then ? Why did he win it in 2013 or in 2019 huh ? Did he have the best stats or trophies in either of those years ? You are just bias at this point and can’t have objective conversation.
@Dubai892JK
@Dubai892JK 2 жыл бұрын
Lewandoski in order to win it over Messi he should be playing for Madrid and get the support from daddy Pérez. Exactly like what Ronaldo and Modric been doing.
@JayVee53
@JayVee53 2 жыл бұрын
FACTS, PAPA PÉREZ THE PABLO ESCOBAR OF FOOTBALL.
@coolestseun8521
@coolestseun8521 2 жыл бұрын
I can watch you guys all day, love you guys .
@brolinfernandez3956
@brolinfernandez3956 2 жыл бұрын
The Ballon D'or lost all it's credibility when Diego Milito wasn't even nominated in 2010... Diego Milito won 5 trophies with Inter in 2010 (Seria A, Copa Italia, UCL, Club World Cup and Super Copa) . He was arguably their best and most important player during the 2009/10 season. He was Inter's top goal scorer and he scored 30 goals that season (14 more than any other Inter Milan Player) which included 22 in the league and 6 in the UCL. Was 2nd top scorer in Serie A and 3rd top scorer in UCL. Diego Milito scored the only goal in the Copa Italia final against Roma and also scored in the Semi Final against Fiorentina, scored the winning goal in the last match of Serie A that won Inter the league, Milito bagged a brace against FC Bayern in the UCL final and also scored in the round of 16, QF and SF of the UCL against Chelsea, CSKA and Barcelona. He also scored several other decisive goals that season. Despite doing all this, Diego Milito wasn't even nominated for the Ballon D'or in 2010. ( Not even among the top 23 players in the world? )
@TacticalManager
@TacticalManager 2 жыл бұрын
Not changed… just go back to what it once was… Used to mean something!
@seanstrangeway457
@seanstrangeway457 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that Messi deserved this one and am annoyed they couldn't just award Lewandowski for 2020. However, if they really want to change it then they should award the best, gk, defender, midfielder and forward and then have those 4 winners compete for the balon dor. This way you have more representation of other positions on the field.
@willgreig4077
@willgreig4077 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanstrangeway457 Did he though? The criteria makes no sense, first its all about winning then its about G/A or its solely is about goals, Lewa won more trophies both domestic and in Germany and also won his league and has more Goals. He has no chance to win Euros because of Poland whereas Messi gets the Ballon D'or in large part because of his Copa America where Argentina has always been the 2nd best team in the region and one of the top 10 in the world.
@nightmaregaming1556
@nightmaregaming1556 2 жыл бұрын
@@willgreig4077 i feel like the criteria shifts for messi to win it.Messi has won ballon d'or 3 times in the past just coz he had more g+a
@Anu-po5ml
@Anu-po5ml 2 жыл бұрын
Lewandowski deserved it yes. But it doesn't mean Messi did not deserve it.
@madridstas797
@madridstas797 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@helloworld2054
@helloworld2054 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@moviesjean23
@moviesjean23 2 жыл бұрын
What’s that even supposed to mean 😹😹😻😹
@jojo_akay
@jojo_akay 2 жыл бұрын
I swear he’s thinking made some sense with this nonsense 😭
@Anu-po5ml
@Anu-po5ml 2 жыл бұрын
@@jojo_akay clearly your pea brain doesn't understand simple logic. Just because Lewandowski deserved the award doesn't mean Messi didn't. Both were exceptional and both deserved it but people are behaving as though Messi didn't.
@vgcreviews8277
@vgcreviews8277 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the ballon d'or. It is unfair to single out a single player, especially with attackers getting the limelight with football being a low scoring sport. Awards should end at World 11, in a 4-2-3-1, a goalkeeper, two centre backs, two full backs, two midfielders, a playmaker/second striker, two wingers and a striker. If people really want a ballon d'or replacement as an award to give to a single player, make it for breakthroughs, where the criteria is for a player to outdo anything he had done previously. Jorginho this season, Bruno Fernandes in his arrival at Man U, Tadic in 2019, Salah 2018, etc. Revelation of the season or something, for players who stepped up. Trophies can influence these awards, stats can influence them, whatever. Most seasons, we have a select few players who stepped up big time in that particular season, and giving an award for those players would be more fun than a ballon d'or. Everybody knows Messi is the best of all time, and outside of Ronaldo managing to put up a fight for a few years, Messi has been indisputably the best, and we don't need an award for that. Maybe even put a limit on the award, like, a player can only win it once or twice. Ronaldo could have won it in 2008, but then again in 2013, a year he took another big step in his career
@RefnRes
@RefnRes 2 жыл бұрын
"Low scoring sport" laughed the England women's team as they smashed Latvia 20-0
@zaidafifkhudhaiyer1502
@zaidafifkhudhaiyer1502 2 жыл бұрын
@@RefnRes I DONT LIKE THE BEST AWARD
@tompa34
@tompa34 2 жыл бұрын
Put a limit to it? So messi is so good that you need to put a limit to ballon dor🤣 you gonna put limit on CL wins too? Go see a doctor man
@kayebrown316
@kayebrown316 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sick of these Ronaldo fans even the old grandpa man is crying and convincing himself that he deserved it and is way better then Messi.
@tompa34
@tompa34 2 жыл бұрын
@@kayebrown316 ahah yes all these pundits are so deluded
@kk-dot2056
@kk-dot2056 2 жыл бұрын
Someone once said 'as long as Messi and Ronaldo are playing there should be two Ballond'or for normal players'
@footballanalysis10
@footballanalysis10 2 жыл бұрын
Why do u add Ronaldo alongside messi..just to make Penaldo fans happy(u too).stop comparing messi with ronaldo,messi is in a different league. Penaldo PR team and his shitty posts & interviews made him win 5 ballondors . Ronaldo is not in the top 5 of all time greats.
@tonymontana0735
@tonymontana0735 2 жыл бұрын
@@footballanalysis10 maybe because not everyone is a messi or a cr7 fangirl. Neutral fans actually recognise that they are by far the two best players of the modern era. Yes messi is better but not light years ahead like his fanboys think, if he was he would have had 12 ballon dor's not 7. Messi fans need to stop this weird hatred of Ronaldo 😂
@latesttrending762
@latesttrending762 2 жыл бұрын
Its Rigged'Or. Bring Transparency So that Hardworking Players Dont get Robbed twice in a Row
@giga4485
@giga4485 2 жыл бұрын
2008- Ronaldo, 2009- Messi, 2010- Sneijder, 2011- Messi, 2012- Messi, 2013- Ribery, 2014- Ronaldo(although its debatable for Neuer), 2015- Messi, 2016- Ronaldo, 2017- Ronaldo, 2018- Modric, 2019- Messi(although its debatable for Van Dijk), 2020- Lewandowski, 2021- Lewandowski
@lifewiththeuntouchablessis3451
@lifewiththeuntouchablessis3451 2 жыл бұрын
When it’s about Messi they change the yardstick to try to suit him.If someone out score him,they use team trophies won,and if someone end the year with more trophies than him but less goals,the use goals scored.But this year he’s caught between a rock and a hard plate,as he has neither the most goals or the trophies.Lewandowski way in front in terms of goals and beat Messi easily in goal involvement,and if you take less matches or minutes played,Lewandowski is way out in front.And then for the trophies it’s Jorginho of Chelsea who has by far the most trophies and also biggest trophies so either way he shouldn’t win.If it’s goal and individual performance it’s Lewandowski all the way and if it’s about trophies,it’s Jorginho all the way
@Tyler-jh9uq
@Tyler-jh9uq 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they’ve done the opposite for many years. In 2016,17, and 18, Messi had the most goals but he didn’t win it because he didn’t have the most trophies. Jorginho is not in the discussion, if you think he was the best PLAYER of 2021 you need a doctor. Messi had more trophies than lewa. They have 2 each, but one of lewa’s is the club World Cup. If you don’t know what that is, it’s two games, yes TWO games, against al ahly and unal. Shouldn’t even count as a trophy if we’re being completley honest. Lewa’s other trophy was the bundesliga, a trophy that Bayern has won like 10 years in a row and were winning by default before lewa even played for them. lewa’s only real trophy this year was one they would win anyway if you replaced lewa with any decent striker.
@Tyler-jh9uq
@Tyler-jh9uq 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they’ve done the opposite for many years. In 2016,17, and 18, Messi had the most goals but he didn’t win it because he didn’t have the most trophies. Jorginho is not in the discussion, if you think he was the best PLAYER of 2021 you need a doctor. Messi had more trophies than lewa. They have 2 each, but one of lewa’s is the club World Cup. If you don’t know what that is, it’s two games, yes TWO games, against al ahly and unal. Shouldn’t even count as a trophy if we’re being completley honest. Lewa’s other trophy was the bundesliga, a trophy that Bayern has won like 10 years in a row and were winning by default before lewa even played for them. lewa’s only real trophy this year was one they would win anyway if you replaced lewa with any decent striker.
@thetruth-gy2lc
@thetruth-gy2lc 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how it’s only a problem when Messi wins it. They’re all big mad 😠😡
@jalex6390
@jalex6390 2 жыл бұрын
It’s time to have rules actually. Every year the rules changes so Messi can win. 4 of those 7 weren’t deserved.
@Kevin-nt8fm
@Kevin-nt8fm 2 жыл бұрын
Which 4
@NoName-cc9cy
@NoName-cc9cy 2 жыл бұрын
Lemme guess, you’re a madrid/ronaldo fan
@seanstrangeway457
@seanstrangeway457 2 жыл бұрын
Your crazy if you think 4 of his 7 weren't deserved. Face it messi deserved 2021 and Lewandowski deserved 2020. Its not messis fault france football chose not to give a award in 2020.
@Cule_
@Cule_ 2 жыл бұрын
2009 well deserved 2010 somewhat deserved 2011 deserved 2012 absolutely deserved 2015 deserved 2019 close one but still deserved 2021 deserved
@seanstrangeway457
@seanstrangeway457 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cule_ let's add 2018 where he won the golden boot the pichichi and almost had an undefeated season in la liga and he had more goals and assists in a year then Lewandowski did this year and lost to modric so people need to stop crying
@itslee7788
@itslee7788 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion, Ballon d'or for best 1. Striker 2. Midfielder 3. Defender It would be fair
@its_achilles_yo1128
@its_achilles_yo1128 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is every year the standards for voting on the ballon d’or changes. They have no idea how to do it properly and the voters are so bias. I mean how on earth did Modric win the award over CR7 in 2018? Absolute nonsense.
@elisaprorokovic9232
@elisaprorokovic9232 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Maybe because of something called the World Cup.
@its_achilles_yo1128
@its_achilles_yo1128 2 жыл бұрын
@@elisaprorokovic9232 you can’t give a guy a ballon d’or because he played awesome for a 8 game or less tournament. And he didn’t even win the World Cup.What about the club leagues,Champions league,and player statistics? Do they not matter? All you have to do is look at the statistics and other trophies for 2018 and tell me CR7 shouldn’t have won it. In no way was Modric a better footballer then Ronaldo in 2018. Also I believe Messi finished 5th that year lol. Ridiculous.
@elisaprorokovic9232
@elisaprorokovic9232 2 жыл бұрын
@@its_achilles_yo1128 With that logic, a midfielder would never be able to be in the running for the award. Apparently, the folks that voted looked at the whole picture. You’re only looking at goals scored. I’m glad to see a midfielder who not only guided his country to a final but also instrumental in Real Madrid’s UCL accomplishments recognized. No matter, you’re entitled to your opinion as am I. Have a great day! 😊
@its_achilles_yo1128
@its_achilles_yo1128 2 жыл бұрын
@@elisaprorokovic9232 Ronaldo scored 48 goals and 8 assists in 2018,averaging 1 goal per game.Modric 4 goals 8 assists in 2018. I mean cmon man. Ronaldo was the key to the CL trophy,not Modric. But yes you’re entitled to your opinion. Have a good day as well.
@brolinfernandez3956
@brolinfernandez3956 2 жыл бұрын
In 2021 Lewandowski scored 64 goals and had 10 assists from 54 matches. Won the Bundesliga, Reached the UCL QF, Broke Gerd Muller's 40 goal a season record in 5 less games. Messi scored 41 goals and had 17 assists from 56 matches. Eliminated in the UCL Round of 16. Won the Copa Del Rey and Copa America. Winner : Messi So basically Messi edges over Lewandowski because of winning a 2-3 week tournament that Argentina were 2nd favourites to win and is played every 2 years? I do agree that Messi was the best player at the Copa America but Poland were not even in the top 6-7 favourites to win the Euros...
@JaphtaSesotlo
@JaphtaSesotlo 2 жыл бұрын
The day Modric won it I stopped taking it serious.
@JayVee53
@JayVee53 2 жыл бұрын
Papa Pérez effect
@JaphtaSesotlo
@JaphtaSesotlo 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayVee53 Yep
@elisaprorokovic9232
@elisaprorokovic9232 2 жыл бұрын
Shows how little you understand football.
@JetWentworth1
@JetWentworth1 2 жыл бұрын
With regards to the Ballon D’or, the criteria needs to be clarified. A points system should be implemented. With points being rewarded for goals, assits, key passes, tackles, saves, ect. The person with the most points wins.
@radioclash84
@radioclash84 2 жыл бұрын
If that was so just imagine the amount of Balon Dors Messi would have won! Much more than 7!
@yrureadingthisname
@yrureadingthisname 2 жыл бұрын
That is ridiculous. So only attacking midfielders/forwards should win, ya?
@debayanpal3181
@debayanpal3181 Жыл бұрын
@@radioclash84 Imagine how many Casillas, Ramos and Neuer would have won then?...
@krixo5616
@krixo5616 2 жыл бұрын
You guys don't also forget Messi just broke Pele's record in south America as the highest goal scorer in south America.
@raphealsylvester2239
@raphealsylvester2239 2 жыл бұрын
CR7 broke the record for highest scorer ever in mens football. However it does not mean Cr7 deserved to win Balon dor based on that Stat. It would of been healthy for Football if the award went to Lewa . MY yeah , that's just my opinion.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 2 жыл бұрын
Ballondr is not all time prize but yearly but good try trying to justify Messi pathetic win.lewandowski broke in 2021 a record of scoring in a league for 50 years standing.and scored 60 goals
@sebastianrose6248
@sebastianrose6248 2 жыл бұрын
Its so sad. In the last 10 years, Bayern munic players got robbed 4 times.
@arunappu5191
@arunappu5191 2 жыл бұрын
Messi>Tapindowski
@hitiblue
@hitiblue 2 жыл бұрын
Why ? Because media who hate Messi can't argue with the fact that he is better than Lewa in every categories except goals ?? That it the 2021 Ballon d'Or was given to Lewa it would simply means that, based on the same criteria Messi should have won the 2017,2018 and 2019 Ballon d'Or. Get over it, journalists from these kind of media are just there to talk. The only conversation we should have is Lewa should get his 2020 Ballon d'Or. Grow up, live in reality and face the truth like adults.
@real_bart
@real_bart 2 жыл бұрын
So hard for Messi fans to admit that another player was better than him 2 years in a row. Messi is one of the greatest players to ever play, but if you can't see that Lewandowski was better than him the last 2 years your blind. Not sure why people have to compare the 2 especially since they don't even play the same position. Just admire them both.
@bobrosssdad2834
@bobrosssdad2834 2 жыл бұрын
We do buddy, Lewandowski was better 2020, not 2021, and that’s the way it is.
@pimpyouout5252
@pimpyouout5252 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobrosssdad2834 also 2021 , the copa America is set up fot Brasil vs Argentina
@kritya2015
@kritya2015 2 жыл бұрын
Lewa deserves for 2020 but messi deserves for 21
@Joshua_MM777
@Joshua_MM777 2 жыл бұрын
Not in 2021 Messi is above lewa in all stats instead of goals and he doesn’t even play striker
@Ivan84135
@Ivan84135 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I remember this was 2021 ballon d’or not 2020. Not Messi’s fault it was canceled last year. This is NOT 2020 BALLON D’OR.
@sheikhmd.salman9692
@sheikhmd.salman9692 2 жыл бұрын
Balon d or is being given from 1956. No one else had problem giving it to players. Now that Leo wins more than anyone else suddenly the award doesn’t make sense.
@aarush130
@aarush130 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I think that both deserved it equally based on the current criteria, the criteria does need to change. The criteria needs to help people who aren't goalscoring forwards, and the current criteria holds team success in high regard especially country awards, which should be the third criteria whereas it is the first and most important one. Second it shouldn't include
@xingincool9672
@xingincool9672 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly and thats my problem bcs there's an argument for people like Jorginho who commands the midfield not with speed, but with defensive skills, passing and position. And he never goes above 70% of the pitch bcs thats not his job, so how can he be compared to Messi or Lewa??? Same with VAN djik who clearly deserved it.
@Chadowgon5
@Chadowgon5 2 жыл бұрын
@@xingincool9672 Lmao Jorginho should never ever win a ballon d'or
@kayceee6770
@kayceee6770 2 жыл бұрын
There should be a d'or for all sections of the pitch from keeper, defender, midfield and attacker. Defenders never get their due, this award is only for the creative/attacking player when in order for them to even get in that position you need an actual backbone to get there.
@scorpio2330
@scorpio2330 2 жыл бұрын
@@xingincool9672 lol jorginho? The guy that missed the penalty in the euro finals...the guy to miss a penalty against Switzerland to put them in the world cup...now Italy is fighting for a spot to the world cup...he's not even top 3 player in Italy or Chelsea lol...stop with the jokes
@xingincool9672
@xingincool9672 2 жыл бұрын
@@scorpio2330 same for messu he missed a vital penalty vs psg
@josephvernon21
@josephvernon21 10 ай бұрын
attacker of the year, midfielder of the year, defender/gk of the year
@michael728_
@michael728_ 2 жыл бұрын
Messi is the goat.
@roshawnseeny3885
@roshawnseeny3885 2 жыл бұрын
Duh
@helloworld2054
@helloworld2054 2 жыл бұрын
Not anymore.
@alphawollf5589
@alphawollf5589 2 жыл бұрын
Alessandro saying he played Center had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣
@MrKasbaros
@MrKasbaros 2 жыл бұрын
Haha... He mistook it for Volleyball
@madridstas797
@madridstas797 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy 🤣🤣🤣 balond'or is being criticized in whole of Europe 🤣 FINALLY PEACE IN OUR TIME ❤️
@alexiadela7137
@alexiadela7137 2 жыл бұрын
Lewa gracefully accepted the defeat but Ronaldo fanboys went berserk 😂
@madridstas797
@madridstas797 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexiadela7137 WE CAN SEE THAT CAN'T WE 🤣🤣🤣 THE WHOLE WORLD IS APPRECIATING MESSI RIGHT???🤣🤣🤣 I'M SO HAPPY THAT HE WON 🤣 THIS IS THE ONLY WAY BALOND'OR AND MESSI LEGACY WOULD'VE BEEN QUESTIONED AND THIS IS JUST THE START 🤣 WAIT FOR IT, IN FEW DAYS THERE WILL BE IN NUMEROUS VIDEOS ON KZbin ABOUT THE FRAUD'OR 🤣JUST WATCH
@alexiadela7137
@alexiadela7137 2 жыл бұрын
@@madridstas797 Happy? Your tears are all over in the comment section 😂
@Cule_
@Cule_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@madridstas797 8th one is coming next year, world cup with Argentina and ucl with psg 😂😂😂😂🐐🐐🐐🐐
@madridstas797
@madridstas797 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexiadela7137 DUDE YOU HAVE 2 FRENCH PEOPLE SITTING THERE 1 MESSI FAN AND ANOTHER PSG FAN CRITICIZING BALOND'OR.... WINNING THIS YEAR WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED ANYTHING FOR MESSI , HE WOULD'VE STILL HAD 6 BUT THE THING IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK LEWA DON'T DESERVE IT THAT'S A DISGRACE
@RobertSmith-up9rz
@RobertSmith-up9rz 2 жыл бұрын
Ballon d’Or people 100% have to go back to smaller jury of experts. This Social-Media trophy has been ridiculous for too long.
@nicholas8380
@nicholas8380 2 жыл бұрын
Lewa deserved it the year it was cancelled, should have been awarded it alongside Messi. 2020-21 Messi was exceptional. Topped every stat measurable apart from goals. Even then he's top 3. No player in the game like that...ever. It has to be recognized and Messi's been robbed of a couple of Ballndors as it stands. Majority of the hysteria will be wet Ronaldo fanboys.
@GoingBerzzerk
@GoingBerzzerk 2 жыл бұрын
that craig burley face at 3:02🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ulisesgonzalez1608
@ulisesgonzalez1608 2 жыл бұрын
Frank's laugh is so contagious 💀
@huzayf3408
@huzayf3408 Жыл бұрын
I agree with espn speakperson to award 11 best player in every position and also remind to award the best in all aspect(including assist, goal, chance created, dribbling etc)
@albertmohan3272
@albertmohan3272 2 жыл бұрын
Now they want to change 😂😂😂. My goodness these guys are worst pundits ever 😂😂. They are bored of Messi's brilliance
@Wayfa40
@Wayfa40 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t ever enter Del Piero restaurant with shorts
@oscarkillua2942
@oscarkillua2942 2 жыл бұрын
Lewy was the deserved winner.and if the vote was not that close to the end of copa, he would have easily won
@adityajoshi4428
@adityajoshi4428 2 жыл бұрын
I mean messi beat him in every category besides goals so messi won fairly
@patchh15
@patchh15 2 жыл бұрын
Cry
@madridstas797
@madridstas797 2 жыл бұрын
@@adityajoshi4428 I MEAN YOU'RE AN ILLITERATE AND NOTHING WOULD CHANGE THAT SO 🤣
@adityajoshi4428
@adityajoshi4428 2 жыл бұрын
@@madridstas797 that’s something someone would say when they know they lost an argument because if you had something valuable to say that actually contributed to the conversation that was going on you would have said that instead😂😂
@EC-pe7wk
@EC-pe7wk 2 жыл бұрын
@@adityajoshi4428 good one dude. That person didn’t even know how to reply to you in a proper manner with proper stats lmaoo
@kingkenny7393
@kingkenny7393 2 жыл бұрын
FYI Diego maradona never ever was selected in the ballon dor in his lifetime including the world top 30, let alone win it. Best ever
@goodvibes-seeen1354
@goodvibes-seeen1354 2 жыл бұрын
Part of Messi clause in his contract at PSG is...we will give you the 7th Ballondor if you join us. I am convinced he joined PSG for that lmao 😂
@amr4336
@amr4336 2 жыл бұрын
Nah , he joined it for winning CL , I think the only trophy that Messi is bothered about is winning the CL and the World Cup.
@tonymontana0735
@tonymontana0735 2 жыл бұрын
Should have changed it when nedved won the ballon dor over Henry.
@Eyeyorot
@Eyeyorot 2 жыл бұрын
How many times messi gonna make these clowns change the rules and win it all over again?🤣
@helloworld2054
@helloworld2054 2 жыл бұрын
Its rigged 🤣🤣🤣
@Eyeyorot
@Eyeyorot 2 жыл бұрын
@@helloworld2054 Messi is cheat code in football so Ofc losers gonna find way to blame the system
@nightmaregaming1556
@nightmaregaming1556 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eyeyorot what cheat code just won 3 ucl and a copa as a main player and u fools say he is cheat code lol
@henricstern
@henricstern 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t waste your time watching these guys’ jealous discussion! Football is played by feet, not hands. No matter whatever adjectives you use, dancing feet or running feet. When Goals determined the game, watch the player, even the defenders, how he scored the goals. WATCH how Messi, Ronaldo, Lewandowski, Jorginho, Neymar, Suarez, Salah, etc., played football and scored goals. But, accept the reality! Finding all the possible opportunities to score goals being equal to all players, Messi competed with one player after another in the field very, very hard and could score goals. Thus, Messi is the best.
@obscuraapit
@obscuraapit 2 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that Ballon d'Or is being reduced to a biased and political waste of an award.
@goddy510
@goddy510 2 жыл бұрын
Del Piero as a center. 😂😂😂
@seanstrangeway457
@seanstrangeway457 2 жыл бұрын
Here is how you fix it. You create awards for best gk, defender, midfielder and forward and then have those 4 compete for the top prize. This for me is the best way to change it and make it a award other positions then just cfs can win.
@JohnyKurbahMusic
@JohnyKurbahMusic 2 жыл бұрын
So messi should be nominated from the midfielder and forward category.
@helloworld2054
@helloworld2054 2 жыл бұрын
Either way Messi will win lol.
@x2Fineex
@x2Fineex 2 жыл бұрын
@@helloworld2054 true lol
@treeladder5338
@treeladder5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@helloworld2054 he's that good he plays everywhere on the pitch
@enlgn7050
@enlgn7050 2 жыл бұрын
But in general forward players are much more highly skilled in several aspects of football than defensive players. No defensive player starts out as a defensive player. They all start out as strikers and gradually get moved to the back. Seems pretty justified to me that forward players should have more scope for individual glory that defensive players. GKs are a different breed though.
@kalyanbaral507
@kalyanbaral507 2 жыл бұрын
28 motm in 56 games. And you think Messi doesn't deserve it. You should be ashamed of yourselves for crying out when the decision is not as what you think. Stevie. C'mon.. if Robert had won it. Fair enough If Messi wins still fair enough. Plz don't bring jorginho or benzema in the conversation. That's just devaluing the year Robert and Lionel had.
@10mibrahim
@10mibrahim 2 жыл бұрын
The Balon'dor needs reforming. Make a separate award for Ronaldo and Messi to allow the others to win the main prize
@markd7813
@markd7813 2 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo hasn't won it since 17 so forget him. Messi might win again tho. GOA7
@ayansil7336
@ayansil7336 2 жыл бұрын
Why would Messi donate the prizes he deserves to others, just bcuz others r kid???
@xBYRNEZx
@xBYRNEZx 2 жыл бұрын
I love that ADP is a part of this program now, even with the language barrier he still manages to have quick witted humour. Love him!
@JayVee53
@JayVee53 2 жыл бұрын
Saw him at the City vs PSG game, great guy.
@doyeseikegba6625
@doyeseikegba6625 2 жыл бұрын
Messi really has people in their feelings..factos👀👍
@olavbjortomt1596
@olavbjortomt1596 2 жыл бұрын
Some Italian restaurants in Italy do put pineapple on pizzas (mainly in tourist spots). It's usually in the menu under the name "Americano".
@kk_yt55
@kk_yt55 2 жыл бұрын
so sad for Messi, he is crucified for being so good... my heart breaks for him🥺
@sonamgolden3
@sonamgolden3 2 жыл бұрын
I like Alessandro smile 😀😀
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 2 жыл бұрын
Rules lol… It’s lawless 🤣
@alexiadela7137
@alexiadela7137 2 жыл бұрын
The same Ronaldo fanboys who are criticizing Lewa for being ranked no. 2 ahead of Ronaldo in the Fifa player rankings are crying " Lewa got Robbed" 😂
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexiadela7137 k
@kwamenkrumah2224
@kwamenkrumah2224 2 жыл бұрын
This is not a month award it's a calendar year. I think confuse that with the current inform players They will get monthly award as per their leagues
@ericnana4976
@ericnana4976 2 жыл бұрын
There's no need to change any rules, Americans love to change things frequently that is why there is always problems in our country whether it is politics or sports leave things the way it is so everyone can follows it as well. Rules apply to everyone so there's no need, it is not because your favorite or choices did not make it so you think the rules should change. Typical of American network ESPN. Move on and learn from what went wrong!
@azure89
@azure89 2 жыл бұрын
Del piero, le boeuf, Shaka and Craig are Americans? Put some respect on del piero and le boeuf’s names
@MRKS7899
@MRKS7899 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how both Stevie and Craig have said in the past that Messi is the GOAT. but now all the sudden, just cuz they're mad about the ballon dor, they're picking Maradonna 😂😂😂😂😂
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