TRAVIS KELCE DEBATE 🍿 Stephen A. vs. Mad Dog on how much Mahomes & the Chiefs need him | First Take

[@randallstubblefield1633]

Ya'll forget Kelce is 35 and has been in the league for over a decade. Father time comes for everyone eventually.

[@bryanh2898]

Who are you directing this towards? Who is forgetting dude is 35?

[@leetraviusmckay314]

"i ran every route like you wouldn't believe" 😂

[@stackntax1308]

I mean Kelce is about 35? That’s around the age tight ends fall off… doesn’t mean he can’t be a contributor to another playoff run but the days of Kelce getting 50-70 yards a game are over

[@yungjoka5962]

That’s crazy lol Travis will have 50 yard games 😭😭😭 he’s not in a wheelchair

[@stackntax1308]

@@yungjoka5962 I said he’s not doing that every single game anymore

[@taiyonblount8283]

Atleast he always show up in post season tho that’s all that really matters

[@mackenzieyoung5306]

It's not that lol he getting double and triple teamed every play

[@scruffd0g193]

Look at other guys his age that are out of the field or fell off a cliff, Julio Jones is 35,

[@josephkabler823]

The Chiefs are purposefully limiting Kelce, in order to keep him fresh for the playoffs, AND to extend his career another season or two. Move along folks, nothing to see here

[@hendrikdalnoot1989]

No they not u clearly don’t watch the games

[@ezracadlett2]

Saying anything… the opposing teams are doubling him plus I do think wear and tear is catching up with him

[@mitchelwoods7387]

I'm a chiefs fan watched every game for the last 5 years. That is not what's happening he is old and slowed down, Chiefs could easily be 0-3 there's no "saving" Travis for playoffs happening...

[@CodiakLBJfan]

​@@mitchelwoods7387you're retarded. Kelce is not slowing down lmao. He's being double and triple teamed.

[@Percy_P]

Bruh this ain’t basketball

[@byrongunn5382]

Mad dog is hilarious. He got me crying over here.

[@malikxshabazz443]

That’s my boy…he should be on First Take period. Everyday!..

[@yungjoka5962]

Man’s called her Taylor fritz 🤣🤣

[@yungjoka5962]

He said I can be the receiver and Jeff can coach 🤣🤣🤣

[@micahhayes8770]

Taylor Fritz?? Dude is corney. I bet he still reads the daily newspaper(the physical print copy) and subscribes to magazines.

[@Maybehiram]

Kelce built like a Lineman now, might as well get on the line. Those 5 yard curl routes not working 😂

[@NatureBoii99]

So he's built like Gronk?

[@becomingnursechyna]

They said Mahomes needed Tyreek to be good too 🤷‍♀️

[@clintfowler1526]

The chiefs defense and Pacheco have made the difference the past two years

[@stephenderks1209]

Stephen A continues to give horrid takes. Bro is the new Skip Bayless

[@leetraviusmckay314]

"Chiefs need Kelce like old people need soft shoes" 😂

[@michaelf.bender3718]

Found the bot.

[@terrymckenna8901]

Yes they need Travis 100%

[@karthikeyachowdary2735]

They have everyone they need for the threepeat. The refs.

[@Preston1988]

I’m a falcons fan I was screaming when the refs didn’t call pi on the Kyle pitts play but watch the Washington & cincy game same kind of play & the refs called pi I was like that’s bs lol

[@GhostPro29]

Cry bout it

[@malikxshabazz443]

Patrick Mahomes been playing terrible this year..done through an interception in every game and two against the Bengals:

[@AlexRosner-v8t]

Refs have handed them 3 wins already

[@declancain2988]

@@AlexRosner-v8t Lol if u wanna think that sure. The DPI on the Bengals was legit not to mention the Chiefs have been shot in the refs a lot they had multiple phantom calls against the Falcons on the last drive and against the Bengals there was a HUGE missed call on Chase for OPI but was called DPI on McDuffie who was being dragged to the ground by Chase. The refs are human they make bad calls and good calls or just missing them doesn't mean they favor the Chiefs.

[@patsnation8427]

Football mileage that's all.

[@josephcunningham1452]

Mahomes does NOT need kelce to win another Super Bowl 🤣 kelce is a beast in the playoffs like he will be again this year but Rice is legit and mahomes is mahomes. anyone would be foolish to doubt him at this point

[@RobertSawney]

Literally he's 35 next month we all knew he'd somewhat fall off eventually. Rice is the #1 now and that's fine as long as trav turns up in the playoffs that's all I care about

[@josephcunningham1452]

@@RobertSawney trav still has juice for another elite playoff run for sure. His regular season was mediocre last season as well compared to his usual standards and we saw how the playoffs went

[@Hannah-xi8yi]

thank you! someone smart

[@wisethabrain1100]

Im gonna reset my microwave because people haven't heard the sound telling ya'll that HE'S DONE!!!!!!

[@khemise1984]

May it's the SwiftKey effect lol 😆

[@1fromGG]

Trav gone cut it on when we need him he just gotta pace himself it’s a long season

[@joshuaknight7555]

Yea he’s older but I don’t think it’s even about because he’s older , it’s more about what Patrick said, he’s pretty much locked up on every other play , and plays he’s open , either someone else is more open , or Patrick is rushed

[@KidsCalledmeMrGlass]

actually,Mahomes can throw it and catch it himself. watch the Ravens game.☝🏾

[@bronsongarrard2809]

Stephen A, stop talking about all the drops from last year, from guys who aren't on the team anymore. Rashee Rice is on pace for over 1000. Worthy is picking up the offense more each week. The ground game is quietly humming (Carson Steele had over 4 yards a clip against Atlanta). And we haven't gotten Hollywood on the field yet. Pacheco won't be back until Thanksgiving. The defense is standing up when they need to. And the team is undefeated. They are fine. Quit using last season's issues as an argument for urgency this season. We're 20 percent of the way through.

[@Tkjbj4ever]

He starts off every conversation about the Chiefs talking about last year’s drops. Literally every conversation he brings up the drops. It’s so annoying.

[@29mailliw]

Wooooooooooowwwww that's what we doing to Kelce now . How much do they need him sports debates is ridiculous at this point considering he helped them win three Superbowls 😂😂😂

[@coopmuzzy75]

Jesus, maybe teams are actually covering him. I never understood why he wasn't defended like a wr1

[@MahjikM3]

No one would be having this conversation if the big play in the last game Kelce had didn't get called back for an OL penalty. I get it that these news shows have to have 'something' to talk about, but Kelce will be just fine.

[@declancain2988]

I am not worried about Kelce he is being double or triple-teamed almost every play and we saw when the Falcons peeled off of him he started ripping into them. Also Rice is proving himself as a great WR and Worthy has a lot of potential not to mention the reliable JuJu is back.

[@sophisticated_savage]

Kelce might be the GOAT TE. He is old, and he has been a leader on a team that has been in the SB or AFC 🏆game the past 5 seasons. A lot of football. I believe all of the leaders of the chiefs know how to pace themselves and seize moments throughout the long NFL seasons. Father Time is undefeated, but Kelce will be great when it counts.

[@Bowditch200]

No ones work production goes down due to dating! Stop this trope! He ain’t open. In a few weeks he’ll find the ball and it will balance out.!

[@quintenruckman3505]

This is one of the worst shows on TV! Two idiots yelling back and forth. The Chiefs HAVE NOT NEEDED him to carry the offense. They’ve run the ball effectively, Rice has emerged as the #1 pass catching option, and the defense is keeping them in every game. Teams are treating Kelce like the offense has nobody else to hurt them. Once teams adjust and start focusing on Rashee it’ll open up Travis and he’ll start feasting. They aren’t forcing him the ball because they aren’t stupid! He was also hurt all last season and played through it. Players always start slow the year they come back from injury especially well into your mid 30s…

[@BoskoShabazz]

They’ll need him in the playoffs. Regular season probably not as much.

[@malakaithatguy253]

Dear comments PM literally just said he's getting doubled or tripled and most of his passes hasn't been accurate when targeting kelce. Film is a huge thing a lot of you forget about

[@malikxshabazz443]

I swear Jeff Saturday is so annoying..he takes up for every player that’s the subject at hand.

[@tavaresprice750]

Taylor Swift shows up and his game falls off staying in them Hollywood hills a little bit too much

[@ultmatebetpro]

This topic is stupid , Rashee Rice clearly has taken over as the Slot option for them . He's one of the best slots in the league

[@lordfarquaad4174]

I think it’s worth wondering if that’s their full on gameplan or if they wanna incorporate Kelce harder in the playoffs. Then again the brown injury threw off whatever offseason plan we had sadly.

[@ChiefKT98]

That’s crazy Travis had hella playoff wins before mahomes

[@davidndungu4874]

What playoff wins

[@numba3787]

Rashee #1 option

[@harmon7896]

We won without tyreek hill and now 3 and 0 without kelce. What does that tell u very good defense and above average offense. Its mahomes magic. Chiefs kingdom

[@AlexRosner-v8t]

Thank the refs

[@AlexRosner-v8t]

Would be 0-3 without refs

[@MuadhRazaque]

Mad Dog is awesome lool

[@neilybugg]

Geez. I wasn't expecting that guy in tan to be so obnoxiously loud. Sounds like a disgruntled woman.

[@georgesharrison6158]

How are We To Take This Man Serious When He is Gonna Make A Comparison Like That, Travis Kelce Is a Brock, Not a Rock, That’s How Beastly He Is (Shout WWE), What We Should Look To Is Travis Is Not Playing Well, Patrick Mahomes Is not Playimg Well, And The Chiefs are Still 3 and 0, But Mad Dog You Need To Get Your Head Check, Cause You May Have Gotten A Hit or Two with The Plastic Helmet That Effected You In The Long Run. One Thousand Yard+, For Years, Key Components to The Team Success Before Hill, With Hill, And Now Without Hill. Kelce Is The Most Liable Guy for Mahomes, And the next guy is Pacheco, When it comes to Whom Mahomes Trust the most. So Mad Dog You Are Right to say What You say, If ESPN Will Pay You, Why Not Say As you Please.

[@Hannah-xi8yi]

the question is do they need him to be great no do they need him to be healthy do they need him t be great and as long as patrick mahomes is helathy and as long as somebody other than travis kelce shows up shich they have the chiefs can win the sb regardless

[@abrahambendavid.7474]

Mad dogs right

[@slimm7848]

Should be…Do the Chiefs need Mahomes? Kelce was a 1000 yd TE & on the path to greatness before he got there. Jk jk 😂😂😂

[@divorcelawyersuicideencour9461]

WHAT THE F YOU JUST SAY!???

[@zackwhite639]

Didn't they do this last year? Playoff time they definitely turned it up

[@zackwhite639]

Mad dog played football??

[@rell12play]

To much Taylor Swift

[@sdub7045]

Travis is an elite TE, but he's not performing at the same level. Maybe it's age? Maybe it's his off-season? Maybe he's not focused? Maybe he's not in the gym? It's clear he's physically not in the same shape. Looking winded after running a five yard route??? He needs to focus, cut the alcohol, and get his head back in the game.

[@Yut-vs7zg]

Was an elite tight end . Was a few years ago

[@mikegggg222]

BUSY,MAKING MONEY ON COMMERCIALS AND $TUFF, SWIFT is a hobby 😂,Just reliable but not top conditioning nowadays.

[@GrayingOne]

Kelce has gotten thicker around the gut and his legs.

[@chrisortiz9343]

Travis seems to be woiried more about his new life with Taylor Swift and his new movie career and Molly really really needs to be fired along with all these women that have the dumbest takes

[@iso-abyss3574]

Doggggggie😅🤣😂

[@josiahmitchell8594]

Kelce is literally spending more time with Taylor Swift people think that doesn't effect you but it does and she is not just a normal gf, she is a billionaire who does billionaire activities and he is a part of those and that takes time away from football.

[@bigslimmdawg1979]

When Taylor drops him so will the chiefs

[@hhenry76]

Blame it on Taylor swift on Kelce decline 😀

[@farmerjonjohnson4519]

Kelce is a Simp now. Swift has neutered him and it didn't help that Swifties came after Pat's wife.

[@10000liverpool]

Gronk did a lot more than Kelce in a game. Kelce does nothing but just jog and catch the ball.

[@JCOOKS-]

He’s arguably the best TE ever. Definitely best pass catching TE.

[@joshuaknight7555]

Facts

[@shykeillowe288]

Gronks burner doesn't have a point

[@Jdcjr1991]

You mean the whole point of the game. CATCHING THE BALL

[@davis2k1234]

Except Gronk was hurt half the time so was literally doing nothing while Kelce has missed 2 games since Mahomes took over Mahomes has 2 career wins without Kelce on the field he’s 1-1 all time without him so yes they need Kelce to go anywhere in the playoffs

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

3:40 I agree with mad dog here…Kelce is a Football 1st…that extra stuff is cool add ons but ya head needs to be locked in what’s going on in the season especially when you have a chance to 3peat

[@droppin_sik_beets]

The only people that care about his "slow start " are fantasy owners.

[@Cheif_Espada]

SHOTS FIRED!!! Mad Dog out here calling out coworkers for their shine and pay!?!?!

[@zachariahsmith6937]

You can’t quantify his value/// it’s paramount 🙌🏾🙏🏾 Stay health for the playoffs my guy🫡

[@willardwilson7512]

You people are Trippin Travis Kelce is in Love That's all 🤣😆😂🤣😆😂

[@Tkjbj4ever]

I need to know what people would be saying if the yards weren’t taken away from Travis because of those penalties what everybody would be saying, it would be a completely different conversation.

[@davis2k1234]

So funny Mad Dog hates on all of todays players in every sport except Mahomes that how deep his Brady hate runs Mahomes is 1-1 since 2018 when Kelce isn’t on the field but he doesn’t need him? And Rashee rice a is star No1 top 10 WR which I tried to explain last season the Chiefs have been inspite of Mahomes not because of him that and some favorable calls

[@willardwilson7512]

Travis will be just fine A couple weeks

[@ChrisRoyster-o4y]

“I can be the receiver and you can coach and we’ll win” to Jeff Saturday is diabolical 😂😂

[@mjcastro82]

Remember when Gronk went down and everyone thought the Pats were out and then they won the SB with Gronk on the sidelines(not even a Pats fan)? But Mahomes needs Kelce? Axiom: Brady>Mahomes

[@ow_oso]

A chiefs team that doesn’t NEED Travis to always be on top of his game is scary. Who tf gave them Xavier worthy man😭

[@jeremywendell5501]

Careful folks, the swiftys will come for your head. We long time Chiefs fans have to watch mentioning it.

[@sullaybjr]

Chiefs are 3-0 with limited Kelce. Haven't we been here before?

[@eloisebarrowes8524]

Mad dog should stfu they got permission to go and if he would choose his woman first she invited him he went and if you watch the us open both him and pat was watching the games on his phones

[@SqueegeeRamone]

Mad dog is really the worst talking head.

[@go-bang2037]

The chiefs are stacked this year at WR this year so he’s going to get less touches bro

[@danmorse2002]

Mad Dog is the heart of this show. He’s the best lol.

[@zachstory4708]

Mad Dog is mad funny ngl 😂

[@Hannah-xi8yi]

stephen a the drops are over

[@ChildofPromise413]

Molly🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

[@deandean2010]

He’s with the devil

[@ceyunmatthews7713]

Greenlaw had Kelce on lock in the superbowl! He only started getting open when he got hurt! Change My Mind

[@Tkjbj4ever]

Right Greenlaw wore himself out and hurt himself trying to guard Travis

[@ShadomanG]

Two things can be true at once: Father Time is UNDEFEATED & he is 35. + he’s been on a world tour w/Swift & imo he’s just not in shape nor is his mind on the game. All of which is no excuse 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MOBI21]

they should traded him.... hes just a shell of himself. they need to trade em for a offensive lineman to block.

[@musicman195959]

Maybe Travis Kelce playing football and running around with Tay Tay has caught up with him. 😂

[@VSmoothTwentyTwo]

Nah he had swag wit the black girl now he just a regular white boy 😅😅😂😂😂

[@michaelf.bender3718]

I don't remember the first half of Kelce's career. He was a nobody until Mahomes got there.

[@octobersgift6785]

NGL mad dog was cooking

[@zachstory4708]

11:36 “He ain’t the one on ESPN Bet commercial”😂